Heh. Main problem most people have with Origin is that it already has been out for quite a while, but the problems are still present and mostly unfixed. Steam had somewhat of a similar reception at it's release, but it quickly fixed most of the major issues people had(and thus sastified the haters). Thus, Origin has huge amounts of hate :P
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But Steam didn't have a competitor to compare to. It made up the standards as it went along. Origin, on the other hand, has another servicd to look to for inspiration.
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It isn't even stable now but it's still much better than at relase
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I hate when Steam randomly drops the connection. Everyone just disappears from your game(if you're playing a game that requires Steam to play online). Then you have to quit the game, close Steam, re-open steam, hope that Steam connects, open the game back up(if Steam connected), invite all of your friends back in, and then hope it doesn't happen again.
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+1
it seems they have overall not that much of an interest to solve any kind of bugs and problems with origin, I've heard and read also a lot of problems people have had from day 1 and still have until today.
The fact its scans part of your HDD also is something I dont like.
And I like to have all my games at one place, so I hope sometime origin games will return to steam.
It`s good to have competition for steam but I fully can understand why origin gets so much hate and won't use it myself, too.
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Lol, but the funny part is that OP doesn't present a problem he has with Origin, but with a game, yet he is hating on Origin. Just WTF.
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You didn't understand me, I'm just done with Origin's Dead Space 3 multiplayer.
I still use Origin and I play Dead Space 3 SP.
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You said "I'm so done with Origin". Origin's Dead Space 3? is there a dead space 3 anywhere else? you could've just said "I'm so done with Dead Space 3"
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That's because I'm done with origin's multiplayer games.
Not Dead Space 3 because I play single player.
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But you still said "I'm so done with Origin" so you are just giving up because you failed to join a friends game?
wow if i got 1$ everytime someone said that i would be rich....
oh shit! i can't join my friends game when trying to join him on steam! i fucking hate steam now! compleat shit!
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But you still said "I'm so done with Origin" so you are just giving up because you failed to join a friends game?
wow if i got 1$ everytime someone said that i would be rich....
oh shit! i can't join my friends game when trying to join him on steam! i fucking hate steam now! compleat shit!
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why he is totally right?
It searches part of your hdd (privacy) and they state this and other stuff we don't like in their TOS but nobody reads them anyway like he said (though its everyones own fault for not reading xD)
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Errr, you do realize that almost everything "invades" your "privacy". :|
And have you ever read the majority of other software. service or site ToS to compare it to Origin's? The only reason you know about those parts about Origin's TOS is solely due to the overblown hate on Origin, and not due of it's being the only one like that. Sometimes I'm really surprised at how ignorant people are (not talking about you, being misinformed is one thing, but acting upon misinformation is being ignorant).
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No, not almost everything invades your privacy. There are a lot of big companies that have no problems in giving out your personal information (Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc) but along with Google, EA has one of the most broad and user-unfriendly privacy policies. Here's a comparison of Steam's privacy policy compared to Origin's:
Steam:
“Valve also stores information on a user’s hard drive that is used in conjunction with online play of Valve products. This includes a unique authorization key or CD-Key that is either entered by the user or downloaded automatically during product registration. This authorization key is used to identify a user as valid and allow access to Valve’s products. Information regarding Steam billing, your Steam account, your Internet connection and the Valve software installed on your computer are uploaded to the server in connection with your use of Steam and Valve software.”
Origin:
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
Do you see the difference? While Valve retains the right to use your information relating Steam however they wish, EA's policy is broad enough that they retain the right to scan your entire hard drive and active processes even when Origin is not running and use it however they wish. It is literally spyware and that is 100% not okay and not something anyone should be defending.
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You went to unrelated argument, I haven't said anything about it in comparison to Steam, or is the only service he uses? My point was that there are other service he probably uses are as "invasive" as Origin, so what's the point of not using it? "scan your entire hard drive and active processes even when Origin is not running" this is what I call an overreaction, even if they scan all of your HDD, they can only store what they mentioned. and how the hell it would freaking matter if they know what windows you use or what programs you installed? EA's goal is making money, and how he hell the use of your private details that would also personally identify for bad ways would bring them money? This is so much stupidity in people's overreactions.
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Why are you being a jerk? You're calling other people ignorant and stupid for not wanting their personal information shared. It is not an overreaction. And "what is mentioned" includes all software and files on your computer, as well as any online activity. Wanting privacy is not unreasonable and you are insulting people for it. Just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean other people don't.
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What I call stupidity in overreaction is the unreasonable fear/paranoia. Where have they said individual files and browsing history? And it's not a question of whether I care or not, there simply nothing to fear about it all.
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I agree with you. It really irritates me to see people getting their knickers in a twist over absolutely nothing at all, while constantly rambling about Origin being spyware. If you're someone who obeys data and copyright laws, you have absolutely nothing to worry about from Origin scanning your PC, if you're not then you deserve any punishment you get (including your Origin account being banned, though I doubt they keep tabs on who it is that they have scanned). Besides, I highly doubt that staff members of Origin are going to sit in an office sniggering at the programs that some individual has installed and their filenames.
I personally don't see it as being any more harmful than having CCTV cameras watching me in virtually every shop I go in; maybe I should complain that I aren't going to go in any shop with CCTV because I don't want them to see what products I'm looking at.
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CCTV in shops is one thing, how about having them at your place? And not for your security, you're not the one who'll see what they show nor is your guard, but some guys back at EA. I think that's a more accurate comparison, since PC-level privacy is much closer to home-level privacy than some random shop you visit once in a while.
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It's more comparable to a shop observing what groceries, electronics, music and video collection and decorations you have in your house. They don't observe the goings on in your house, all they can see is what you own. Personally I have far more important things to worry about in life than whether a game publishing company can see what I've got installed on my computer. If mithering over whether EA can see you have Revelations 2012 installed and a terabyte of gay porn on your computer is something you can honestly give two thoughts about, I certainly wish I had your life.
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The difference is that those CCTV cameras are optional, and to be used to the benefit of those who own the property. The 'Origin CCTV' is more someone else putting cameras in your private property for their own benefit. It's not a matter of 'safety' or 'being found out', it's a matter of having a for-profit commercial organisation collecting information on you as an access-ante to their products. This wouldn't be so bad if it were a simple matter of "If you don't like it, abstain from our services", but that EULA was retroactive, and some games that were purchased previously and that have gone past their return period now try to get you to install Origin and agree to that EULA. At least, Spore did, and I believe the EULA only was poked into Darkspore. If you do not agree to it, it closes the program. That is some underhanded crap right there.
On top of that, the information they are collecting and sending back to home-base is not made transparent to the user, and combined with the EULA, it means they can happily collect whatever they want. Yes, plenty of other applications and systems gather information as a matter of simple necessity to keep running (password checking, social features, matching patch states, etc), but in those circumstances you can typically trust that its primary purpose is for an immediate service-based reason. So even if what they gather just happens to be 'reasonable' and not some terrible clandestine conspiracy deal, the fact remains that they ask for unrestricted access and don't keep you in that loop as to why and what for, and that's kind of a big thing. Especially with companies sporting bad reputations. Trust and privacy are kind of big issues, no matter how cheaply some people will sell out for a brief taste of the next factory-stamped shooter.
It's not a matter of fear. Its a matter of principals, erosion of consumer rights and a still ongoing slippery slope. It's not just a simple matter of blind hate, its a matter of a rolling bad reputation and not enough transparency. I would have been more than willing to use Origin if they were transparent about their data collection, and less ham-fisted about their muscling in on pre-Origin games. To continue the CCTV example, this is more like giving your router password to a grocery chain under the understanding that they're going to be gathering indeterminate amounts of undisclosed data for largely undisclosed reasons, and if you disagree with the practice, they will refuse to serve you and also remove certain already purchased foods from your household without refund.
Surely you can understand people's caution and why that leaves a bitter taste? Even if you're more of the mindset "I just can't give up the taste of cookie crunch, better give them my router password"? Even under the assumption of actually requiring the information or putting it to good use? I mean, fuck, I was planning on pre-ordering BF3 and ME3 at the time, until this all came to light.
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Also, this is a kind of humorous summary of my feelings towards Origin and EA :
http://www.holywowstudios.com/teachestyping/
If you give it a chance to get warmed up, you'll see what I mean :P
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facepalm No, it's, why I avoid something because of something when that something already present. Why the hell avoid brain cancer when you already have one.
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Yeah, go on with your senseless arguments like a broken record you little prick.
EDIT: Also by "when you already have one." I meant have brain cancer already, so why try to escape brain cancer when you already have brain cancer.
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Someone should really palm your face with that dumb black and white thinking.
"Hey, I'm sick anyways so why not get even more sick?"
You do realize that cancer patients are actually being treated?
Apparently no. But what do I expect from a 9yr old?
I'm done here.
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"black and white thinking"? if you're that dumb to not understand the point then its't my problem and even trying to justify something stupid. Wait, so the privacy ToS are being treated as well? Never seen someone as dumb as you to use technical facts about a thing that used as a metaphor. "Have them shove it up your behind, you seem to enjoy it." and you tell me I'm a 9yo? Hahaha, what dumb little prick you are. XD
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people like you who look the other way are the reason companys can do stuff like this i`m not picking a fight or anything but his point is valid and no amount of excuses can change the fact that they are way more invasive of your privacy than steam
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I wasn't saying it is something entirely good and/or ok, I was saying that there's an overreation on that. Also I said was that the problem here isn't in Origin, but the whole internet service/site/software industry, so just hating Origin on that and not other services that are as much or even more invasive is just hate bandwagon.
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Isn't that problem with the game and not with Origin?
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The multiplayer servers for EA games are hosted by the Origin service, iirc.
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Aren't must multiplayer problems are user-side? If it was server side a majority would experience it the same time, SimCity launch for example was server-die.
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It's not impossible for a server issue to effect some and not others, this is especially true given the prevalence of region-locking and separations (as in, people in the EU could have problems but not people in the US). And lots of people have complaints similar to the OP's.
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But would you disagree on the part of "must multiplayer problems are user-side"?
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Over the course of the lifespan of a product? No. But at a given time there could be a special case where this is not true (for example, even though it's a different system, the steamgifts issues are not client-side). Minecraft is a good example of a game that often has server problems as well. When those problems occur, I doubt many incoming support messages are user-side.
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Obviously there's exclusion, not everything is the same, but I'm talking about AAA, which usually has a standard for servers in multiplayers.
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SimCity was triple A, and that didn't really help them much at launch. Lots of other triple A games have server problems from time to time, I hope you're not trying to insist they don't.
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Wait, have I said they don't have? The only thing I ever said was that most of the problem people reporting about multiplayes is cause from user side. I never said "all" I said "most". About Simcity, well yeah, because the whole problem was that they didn't expect so many people, so they didn't prepare enough servers for that. So the problem wasn't in the standard.
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Considering the horrendous launch of Diablo 3 and EA's deep pockets, I don't see a single good reason for them to not have been prepared, other than sheer hubris to think nothing would go wrong.
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They haven't be prepared, or any other reason, they simple derped on it, it really doesn't change much the usual standard and/or the fact that majority of report problems are user-side.
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I don't know why you keep saying that. If you count every report over the history of technology, that's true. I doubt all Origin problems people have are user-side, and given the sheer number of them, I'd inagine it's an Origin problem.
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We are talking about multiplayer games, not software, it's a whole different story. Of course each problem is cause by one or other software in the end. But we were talking about server side vs user side problems.
And about Origin, of course it would be user-side mostly, because almost all the problem come from faulty software and not bad communication with the servers.
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If it's a problem with the service then it's client-side, "user-side" is a misleading term because it implies it's the user's fault (i.e. bad router configuration). Use the term client-side instead.
With that said, Origin IS the multiplayer service for most, if not all EA published games. So those problems could be either client-side or server-side, it doesn't really matter because inevitably it's still a fault with Origin.
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It usually is user side, as in other software beside Origin. Sometimes it can also be partially client side. But if it was entirely client side, all people with Origin would experience that problem.
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...no, that's not true at all. It could easily be a select group of people experiencing client side problems, due to either their hardware or software configuration. And yes, if your program completely breaks because I'm using a certain graphics card or I'm running a chat program, that is almost always a client error, because it means you designed your program poorly.
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Well, that's why that I said partial client side as the cause of the problem is cause by the interaction of the client and something else. You could say it's the client problem for being programmed poorly, but you could also say it's because of the other thing for causing such type of interaction. Matter of perspective, so that's why I called it partial.
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Yes, I would. This level of multiplayer gaming is more than a decade old, the last game I had theese kind of fvckups was the early days of CoD1, and that was not yesterday.
Don't tell me that it's user-side, every single game I played, and had multi player I used it, played it, never had this problem. Of course I could open up all my ports, I could do a lot of stuff that I would never do, but the problem is still persistent, no matter what.
And yes, the whole "simcity" fiasko was based on EA's "even tho we can't handle it let's make everything always on DRM restricted, because FU that's why. maybe next time you will pirate the game, so you will be able to actually play it day1"
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So you think that that must of multiplayer problems is server-side? check your facts before saying BS.
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Check my comment before you reply to it.
What I said is I know what I'm talking about, whenever I had a client side problem I solved it, there isn't much that can't be, but when the system is not working for some of the players, and are working for the others and all support can say is either: "we know about it, working on it" or "already done Foff" even tho I KNOW, I SEE that it's not fucking done it fucks up my brain.
I'm educated in IT, I learned the basics even before that, when I had CoD, minecraft game servers. I set up web pages, forums, for some I even got paid for. I've lived in 3 different location in the past year (home, apartment, friend's house for a week) it DID NOT WORKED AT ANY OF THOSE PLACES. Changed pretty much everything internet related hardware(not because of ME3) but the cabel in the wall. I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM running ANY other program/software/application on the internet, and even when I had any problem I SOLVED it when it was user side, because it's FUCKING SIMPLE to do, because there isn't much that can go wrong without causing any significant sign, or disfunction in other programs, systems. So yes, i checked my fucking facts, and I took the time to read your comments as well, might be useful for you to do the same.
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Like you said, read the comment before reply. All you talked about is your personal experience with multiplayers issues, my argument was about that most of the issues people report about multiplayers is issues from their end. And if you think that your personal experience matters in that statistic, then I don't know what to say to you.
And the check you facts was not about your skills at solving those issues, but facts about statistics.
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Who gives a damn about statistics? This problem is existing, and since it's not on the user side statisctics doesn't matter, because others HAVE it, no matter the % or count or whatever. Most of their systems have fails that shouldn't even be there with a decade of experience on multiplayer games, systems, and databases. The problems the Origin client, and the whole system behind it has should NOT BE THERE, because those problems were solved a decade ago. Amateur mistakes in every damn system. Since this statistics doesn't matter, because it's THEIR fault, and not the users. Every single new games launch their systems collapse, and since their -again- so damn amateur "solution" was to make their own authenticating system to reduce piracy of their games, and what did they achieve? You can suck your toe on the first week of launch, because EA thought an unstable, and way too small capacity Origin will handle anything, MEANWILE people download their games for free on the release date, and enjoy them. Every single aspect of their customer policy, level of creativity, or knowledge just reflects the amateur solutions they come up to get more income. And after that stating that most issues are on the client side, makes me furious.
Of course a lot of ppl have random bugs/fails on their end, but that exists at every other game/company/system etc. Don't bagatelise game(system) breaking fails, and bugs in the core of their products, work, please.
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What the hell is wrong with you, I'm talking about one thing and you try to take it somewhere entirely else. And with the infamous "Hey look, I'm an expert, you should believe whatever I say". Really, your whole comment is one big fart to me for starting arguing on something I wasn't even talking.
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If you didn't have anything to say you didn't have to comment.
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And if you don't like my angry reaction what the hell did you expect then if you butt in into an argument I'm having with someone just to start an unrelated argument.
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Maybe the problem was on your end? I played ME3 multiplayer almost every for 1 year, I used to play private matches with a friend and we had problems everytime I hosted the game and never had any problem when he hosted. Guess what... my 12Mb/s net sucked for hosting games (this problem happened with every other game I tried to host). Using logic I could figure out the problem was not on origin or their servers.
The only time there was a problem on their end was when the game said I needed to buy an online pass to play, and PC doesn't require online pass, so I simply used twitter to contact EA support and my problem was solved in a few minutes.
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Well, i've been using Orign since release and no problems of any kind so far, guess i'm "lucky".
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I've played Steam, Origin and Uplay, and I have to tell you that Steam is actually the worst of them (not bad, just the worst)... I've never had ANY problem playing with Origin since it's release, nor with Uplay... But with Steam I have experienced a lot of bugs, even unlauchable games... Thankfully, I solved those problems... But seriously, it's EXACTLY like stupid haters who hate games... Haters are saying how Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, and other games, are full of bugs and glitches, yet I NEVER experienced any... In the whole Assassin's Creed franchise I only had 3 glitches, all of them just visual and not game-breaking... My PC isn't even a great one, it was bought in 2009... And I still don't have any glitches on FC3. Same goes with the clients... To be honest, I don't believe many people who are saying that Steam never gave them a problem, but Uplay/Origin did... Because we all know those stupid collectors who are whining about how they totally hate having games in 3 different clients... Like you have to open all of them at once... Only Uplay's games on Steam want both clients, and still this is NO problem at all... Even for an old gaming pc like mines.
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I am a collector, I really love steam above all. But damn, their client is one huge software disaster. Would do anything for Origin's client for Steam.
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Your logic is: I don´t believe people saying never had an issue with Steam, but believe me when i say i had no issues with Origin.
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I think he meant that some people just hating on a game for being buggy without even experiencing them.
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Something tells me that the hate isn't completely unbiased.
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I kind of agree. The initial experience was pretty bad. EA seems like they have limited Origin servers. Especially when compared to Steam that seems to have a more stable activation/store network. Not only that but BF3's web-page launcher. I know that it's a bit unrelated but, damn. Why not have a client like the Sims 3 launcher? :/
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usually any game not loading in steam is a game specific problem, nothing to do with steam.
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I've never had problems with Origin. Might be because I've never used it.
I have had problems with GFWL and Ubisoft regarding purchases though. GFWL never activated my game while Ubisoft just gave me a txt file via email stating "this is your game download" which is apparently still an ongoing problem.
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So that's why you hate Origin now? because a certain game has an issues? With that logic, why do you still even think about Steam?
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It's not that I hate it, it's just that I'm so done with Origin's Multiplayer system, even with Crysis 2 I'm having problems.
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What I'm saying is that all of the games on Origin, multiplayer won't work on me.
Stop trying to hate on me because you think I hate Origin.
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I don't hate, you just say some weird stuff. Multiplayer has nothing to do with the client, you probably just have some issue with your pc or windows that cause a certain issue on several games.
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Yeah, it says my NAT type is strict, I tried turning Firewall off, won't work.
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you have to open the ports in the config from your router.
either try it with upnp enabled so the ports will be opened by the router itself for the time playing or if it dont work or u dont have this function in your router available search google for the needed UDP/TCP ports and open them manually.
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Origin was bad since the beginning and everyone knows it.
No decent sales, A SUPPORT EVEN WORSE THAN STEAM(and Steam support is incredibly slow FYI) and now they can't even keep up with people coming in from Humble Bundle(there are also Steam keys, and I don't see Steam being affected by it).
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Ok, I won't even argue because you clearly can only fart misinformation and brain-dead logic.
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I don't know. Origin support has an edge because they have live chat sessions available, which is great for minor problems if you can stomach the queue times. I don't know how much use they'll be beyond their training to respond to pre-cooked situations (like converting pre-Origin keys to Origin-enabled keys), though. When I told them about the Origin installer bugging out and deleting it's parent directory (300gb of non-origin data got scrubbed), they just told me they would 'investigate the issue' and left it at that. Not very faith inspiring when they don't ask more questions or show any apparent interest, but that kind of response would be found most places too. Other than that, the operative I contacted to convert my old EA keys to Origin keys was polite and prompt (if you disregard the naturally long support queue).
The sales/normal pricing I will agree with you on, but that is more EA's bad approach to sales than anything else. Origin is just another store-front, the decision-making on prices is done by some dude higher up the chain of command. But hey, they seem to be turning enough of a profit to stay in business despite the horrendous prices and terrible Origin EULA, so maybe there is something to it (even if that something is being able to gauge the tolerance limits of your customers, lol :P). There are plenty of reasons to grumble about Origin / EA, but the ones you came up with are pretty weak, in my opinion.
If you mentioned the lasting bugs that cause Origin downloads to randomly discard gigs of data and reacquire them repeatedly? That'd be pretty valid criticism, given the bug has been around for years and the 'solution' never changed-
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Yeah, my NAT type is strict even if my Firewall is turned off.
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Had a lot of issues with Origin. Beta seems to fix most, i have yet to try playing DS 3 on co-op so we will see.
Still i don´t like the interface on Origin neither i see any advantage from Steam.
Also they want to charge me on Euros so fuck them.
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Advantages are that the client works much much better than Steam's.
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Disadvantages are that it doesn't. I install a game, start it up and then also have to install the latest patch for that game? It's stupid.
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What the hell are you talking about? :|
And if you're talking about some single case, doesn't Steam also have games like that? -___-
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For Steam, usually those are rare exceptions for third party games, most games download at the latest patch. I don't see why Spore, an EA-published game, would waste my time installing a patch instead of just installing the most recent version of the game in the first place.
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Because even devs hate EA, even if it is their own publisher.
Origin's THAT borked.
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The problem here isn't third party or not, and if Steam can have exception why Origin isn't allowed?
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Because it's not a case of "rare exceptions" for Origin. It's every game. And with their out of date dowbload speeds the problem is amplified.
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What the hell are you talking about now? All games are not being updated, you really make no sense now. And that bad download speed problem doesn't even appear to majority of people, only some.
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Wanna install Spore? Enjoy starting up the game to be told you need to patch it. Same with the Sims, Mass Effect and every other game I've seen. If you want to argue it's a rare exception, you'll still need to explain why high-profile games have this problem, whereas on Steam it only occurs for obscure or old games. Any game you install on Steam is installed with the latest version, almost always.
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Again, what the hell are you talking about? I haven't tried all of the old games, but I've tried the newer games, and I have never seen such thing.
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Then either you just want to pretend I didn't name two examples, or Origin really does have problems for some users and not others. Somewhere else in this thread there's a bunch of people claiming they have the very same issue I just explained.
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I doubt I could easily miss such an issue, might happened due to some cause or something. But either way I can't argue whether you actually have that problem or not. But even then, this disadvantage is nothing compared to the overall advantage Origin client has over Steam client. Especially when the disadvantage you talking about might just be an issue that affect only some people.
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What advantage do you keep referring to? I can see why it would be a better offline client, but beyond that I have absolutely no idea what could make Origin a better client.
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I was talking about technical advantages, works much faster, doesn't crash (unlike Steam), less bugs and other small time problems.
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I don't see any of that. Steam servers do go down, but ever sincs they started announcing maintenance I've almost never seen an unexpected Steam outage - like, once in the four months they've been transparent about it. And Origin for me is pretty slow, so maybe you just get lucky with that. I've never used Origin for extended lengths of time, since I do get to turn it off when my download completes, so I never had a crash, but I've never seen Steam crash either.
I think maybe your computer just likes Origin better, and it has less to do with the program itself :p
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Thing is that many other people report same thing, and that's on top of the biased hating Origin has, so the number of people Origin works better for might be much higher. And I don't think it' my computer liking Origin better, more like it just really really hates Steam. Because as I said, it's not like Origin's client is a genius piece of software, it's just that Steam's client is really bad.
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I don't have nearly as many problems with Steam as you do, and considering they peak at well over 5 million concurrent users daily, it'd be amazing to me if Steam really was as bad as you say it is and there's not a giant outcry against it.
You really do seem to forget just how many people use Steam; even if you found ten thousand people with your same problems, that's almost nothing, and the ratio of people complaining would still be MUCH lower compared to Origin's.
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I doubt the problems I'm having are user-side because I formatted my PC alot of time and there wasn't any change. There isn't a huge outcry, well I haven't complained about it either, it is tolerable in consideration of the service Steam provides. The only context I complained about it is when protecting Origin to show it has its advantages as well.
Well, here it's a question of tolerance, most people are much faster to complain about anything possible about Origin while people would usually complain about its problems when its actually critical.
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A lot of people look for "gotcha!" moments with Origin, just like Origin fanboys do the same for Steam (I do feel you're midly guilty of the latter). Does Origin have its advantages? Yes, it sure does, but for the most part they're not doing much BETTER than Steam, just doing it differently, and a lot of people don't like the changes. If you do, good for you! That doesn't make Origin better than Steam, just means you have a preference. Origin still has severe problems, and Steam still has incredible upsides.
It could be a hardware problem, you know.
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How can you even compare the number of Steam fanboys to the number of Origin fanboys? And nice, so now putting a reasonable argument in someone's favor is called fanboysm. :| (how the hell you can call me Origin fanboy when UI specifically said in the other argument that I prefer Steam much more overall)
"just doing it differently" what the hell are you talking about? the clients so absolutely the same thing, I was talking about how well it was programmed, your argument makes no sense.
"lot of people don't like the changes. If you do, good for you! That doesn't make Origin better than Steam" That means I can be unbiased about it, and actually see of it's actually better or not.
"just means you have a preference" What the fuck? I'm talking about technical performance, and you say it's a preference? yeah, it's just a preference to not like crashes or bugs.
I changed hardware as well.
You went full derp suddenly in both arguments just now, WTF.
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I wasn't calling you a fanboy (you onviously aren't), but there were some arguments you made that seemed incredibly biased, and your presence in this thread trying to convince people of Origin's value is noteable.
I wasn't comparing the number of people. Obviously Steam has a massive fanbase. But there does exist an anti-Steam culture, whether it be pro-GoG or pro-Desura or whatever.
My wording on that was terrible. My point was basically "just because you like it more doesn't make it better."
I blame my descent into madness on the fact that I'm typing on a phone while being bad at Defense Grid. My wording has been terrible as I get more frustrated with the gold medal requirements.
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Could you please point those argument out? I might accidentally said something biased due to sympathy for Origin (tho usually I don't do such mistake), so I'll need to restate the argument if needed, tho you could've also just misunderstood the argument.
Usually the anti-Steam are born from just disliking the whole concept of DRM that strongly. It's very very very rare that someone hates Steam for being Steam.
Yeah, if someone likes something better it doesn't make it better, what matters is the reason why I like it better, if it is opinion (like me liking the UI) it makes it a just a preference. But if the reasons are thing like better costumer service, and better client worability, then it isn't just a preference. Again, I'm only saying that parts of Origin is better, not that Origin is overall better.
I will agree with you at how maddening it an be. XD
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"Biased" probably isn't the right word, "misleading" maybe? I'm mostly referring to comments you made about how tolerance affects the ratio of complaints, which I take to be hugely misleading/misinformed, again due to the enormous difference in the userbase. That kind of argument seems more like grasping at straws than actually making a substantial claim; I'd suggest not using that argument anymore, since your other arguments are better. (Again, I'm not saying tolerance has no effect, but given the scale of the situation it's practically negligible). There were probably others, but again, I'm on a phone, so cut me some slack :p
A lot of them actually hate Steam not for anything Steam specifically did, but because they believe Steam has a monopoly on digital media distribution, and they'll bandwagon any competitor to Steam just because they want Steam to have less absolute control. In that case, while I do see their point, I'd rather Valve run the world economy than EA.
I'M LITERALLY 141 POINT FROM THIS GOLD MEDAL COME ON
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You mean in the argument against the multiplayer problems? I said that I mistook the context, and after I got back on track with the context I forgot to remove that part. And if you mean the second time I said, the issues aren't that critical or/and noticeable and most of people (like me) can tolerate it without any problem, or simply doesn't even mind them.
And yeah there's those people as well, tho you would agree with me that you won't find many of them on sites like steamgifts or any other steam communities. :P
And I agree with, I'd prefer Valve to run world economy, while obviously both of them suck money, but at least Valve does it in a way we enjoy it as well. :P
Also good luck with the gold medal. :D
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Valve also generally gives us better and cheaper games, too.
I have absolutely no luck to speak of
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Yeah, that's too, hell we could talk about valve/steam good points non stop till tomorrow, the only thing I ever said that's bad about steam is their client, and support. But Steam itself as a service is just so great and there's just so much to love about it. Origin overall can't even come to compare to Steam overall.
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Speaking of Spore on Steam: Spore is the only Steam game that I've played that gave me issues trying to launch. Apparently, Spore doesn't like 64-bit operating systems. I had to manually edit my PC's registry to get the game to just start. Get your shit together, EA. I wonder if there's a similar issue with it on Origin.
What's also fun is taking CD-keys for Dragon Age Origins on Steam and attaching it to an Origin account. No idea why EA and GFWL insists on using CD-keys when you have an account-based DRM systems. EA's was far less annoying than GFWL, though. I needed to create an Xbox account just to play Dark Souls and their SITE WAS DOWN. That was a pain in the ass. Spent 45 minutes just trying to do that so I could play the fucking game.
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I didn't have that trouble with Spore, so maybe you were an isolated case. With that said, the same exact problem could have easily happened to Origin and not GFWL; they're both third-party DRM that require accounts to use.
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Spore is a real 'special' case. If you install the patches/DLC in the wrong order, your entire installation will suffer issues. Hell even if you install them in the right order it's normal to get issues. Reminds me of that promotional DLC they gave out with Dr. Pepper that added a few mechanical parts, only they didn't animate properly (staying static for all but a few actions). I'm pretty sure they gave up trying to make Spore work as intended, which is a shame.
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Nope.Origin really works better then Steam.Steam has a lot of lag at everything you try to do, even browsing the shop.But again, at least for me, the Origin shop is not even working in the last couple of days XD
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I take you're just on Origin hate bandwagon and/or ignorant about how bad Steam's client is.
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I played tons of ME3 multiplayer with a friend on Origin and it was as if he was in the same room as me. Never had an issue with it. To be honest, I don't get the Origin hate. It's 99% the same as Steam, no better, no worse.
Your issue is likely a firewall or NAT issue and not a DRM/Client (Origin) issue.
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Yeah, NAT type is strict even if I have Firewall turned off.
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It's your router's firewall then, not your PC's firewall. Check to make sure UPNP (Universal Plug and Play) is enabled on your router.
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Every router is different, the settings are in the interface. You need to log into it and check it's settings. You may want to Google your router's make/model + UPNP if you get stuck.
Best way to know for sure is test with another PC in the house (if you have one, maybe have a friend bring a laptop over). If that PC has the same issue then it's for sure a router issue. If the other PC is fine, then something on your PC is causing trouble.
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Hmm, I think I'm going to have to disagree with you here.
I've seen far more people complain about problems getting games to run, multiplayer flat out not working for some Origin games etc than people complaining about the same/similar issues with Steam and I'm pretty sure that the number of people who use Steam dwarfs the number who use Origin.
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Or maybe you just notice the complaints about Origin more than complaints on Steam?
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If that's the case, they need to read ome steam forum posts from 2004-2005 xD
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With the absolutely gigantic userbase of Steam and vast library of games, you could have five times more complaints for Steam and it still reflects more poorly on Origin. And we don't have anywhere near the same number of issues for Steam.
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Let's see, people are more tolerant to Steam and less tolerant Origin, wouldn't that affect the ratio of complaints. Origin has a big userbase as well, and even with the vast library of games on Steam, how many of them have multiplayer? how many of tha games with multiplayer people on multiplayer? Also don't forget alot of other widely played multiplayer games are Origin exclusive.
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Like Call of Duty?
Tolerance has nothing to do with this. "I like Steam so I'm not going to complain when I can't play my game online" are you mad? Also given the "Origin hate bandwagon" you keep referring to, I doubt the active userbase from Origin is anywhere near as high as Steam's. If Steam were less reliable than Origin, it would be plainly obvious to all but the most ignorant of brats, but for the most part the people who have fewer problems with Origin are the exception rather than the standard.
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Sorry, the tolerance thing was for wrong context, and after I read the previous replies for the right context I forgot to remove it.
In question related to multiplayer reliability the DRM service doesn't have much of an affect, so there's no one that is better than another.
EDIT: The only things I ever said that was actually better in Origin than Steam was the client and customer service. But it still wouldn't be a reason to migrate from Steam.
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Except Origin IS the multiplayer service for EA games, just like Steam is the multiplayer service for Valve games. But obviously EA publishes a vast number of games, so keep that in mind.
I won't pretend Origin is legitimately terrible or anything. I can definitely see why some people would prefer it: for example, better offline use (I've never had problems with Steam offline myself, but I've heard the stories.) The thing is, the vast majority of gamers most likely won't be in a situation where they need a good offline client, and anyone proposing Origin is a better client on that account seems incredibly ridiculous to me. Better for you? Yes. Better overall? No.
And I can also see why people appreciate the lack of friends list integration and Steam's "Community" stuff, but I find that there's so much usefulness in those features that it's a plus. I do thoroughly enjoy that I can play a fullscreen game and not cut myself off from my social life.
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By "DRM service" I meant DRM service, not other department the company has, the DRM service can be better or worse but the servers it uses won't change based on that.
Actually I never use offline mode so I wouldn't know, why I say it's better, is because it works much faster, it doesn't crash at all (unlike steam), and much less client-specific bugs. The problem here isn't because Origin client is programmed so good, it's decent, nothing way too special, the problem is that Steam client is really broken. (I would also also add better UI as a point, but this is entirely just an opinion).
Origin has friendlist as well, and the"community" part and such is already unrelated to client, it's about the service itself, and I have never said that Origin overall as a service was better than Steam, I prefer Steam much more. The only thing I said about Origin is that client and costumer service is much better than Steam's and that Origin overall doesn't deserve all that hating.
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Origin doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but I do still see it as the inferior program. I can't comment on customer service myself, except that I have my suspicions - for example, Darkspore broke for weeks/months before they even said they would fix it, and I heard there was an Origin update that broke multiplayer for EA games for like a week. If you're talking from personal experience, I would say it's luck. Note: I'm not saying that Steam support is fantastic, just that I don't think EA's support is any blessing.
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Well didn't really see the update myself, but even if it was, because it isn't something that is common, we can just treat it as a rare screw up, not like Steam didn't ever have any screw ups. Also it isn't luck, out of 20 times that I contacted Steam support there's only been 3 times that there was an ok conclusion, the other times were very bad while some were complete brain farts. While with Origin, out of 14 times I contacted them, 9 times were really really great, 4 times couldn't really help but it was still ok experience, and only once it was actually bad.
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I absolutely despise the "STEAM USED TO BE JUST AS BAD LOL" argument. Steam didn't have an example to follow. Digital DRM was not a thing before Steam. Buying games and downloading them was not a thing. There was no guideline or rulebook, Steam tread a path that was never tread before. Origin, on the other hand, DOES have an example to follow and a set of standards to live up to. As I've already said in this thread, why the hell would you make a service specifically designed to compete with Steam and allow gigantic screwups like that? Why wouldn't you roll back the patch, and leave people without multiplayer for over a week?
Did Steam used to be terrible? Of course. But saying EA gets a free pass on that is like saying a new prescription drug can get away with having an 80% fatality rate just because the first medicines weren't great either. Our technology has improved, our standards are defined, and Origin is still being compared to year 1 Steam? That's a pretty damn strong damnation of Origin if you think about it.
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What??? how is this kind of screw up has anything to do "it didn't have any example to follow" it was a software screw up, it's not like Origin uses some other's DRM client source code to program Origin. :|
Where the hell I said whether Steam used to be terrible or not? doing accidental screw ups has nothing to do with how good they are. :|
Wow, just what the fuck happened with you? you just went full rage on some argument that wasn't even made . . . .
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It's where you were going. "Not like steam didn't ever have screw ups." It had lots of problems, but the service Steam provided was brand new. You're trying to say EA should be forgiven, this was my counterargument. The problem is not that the screwup occurred, but their handling of the situation was unforgiveable.
Sorry if I overreacted, I just feel like I've had to explain it like four times already. It's probably my biggest issue with the Steam vs Origin bandwagoning.
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I was talking about the occurrence of it, I don't know how they handled it so I can't talk about it, and can't be bother to go dig and read information about it. But based on past incidents, I would agree that EA absolutely doesn't know how to handle screw ups. But again, our current discussion was about the Origin client and costumer service, not other departments of EA and/or Origin. So again I wasn't trying to say EA should be forgiven for how they handled the situation (as I don't know how they did) I just say that rare big technical screw ups isn't something to be frowned upon.
EDIT: To make it short, my point was that everyone has big technical screw ups sometimes, so it's not something Origin should be bashed for.
EDIT2: but your point that Steam didn't have anyone to follow as example still doesn't make sense, the handling of technical screw up doesn't have anything to do with DRM clients, it's business and programming capability.
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The business and programming absolutely has to do with the client, just the same way servers are relevant to a multiplayer game. The game could be great, but if there are lousy servers behind it, that does detract from the joy and value. In the same way, if the company behind the product has shown incompetence, that's relevant to the usefulness of the client.
With that said, I do think we're reaching a point where we're more or less agreeing with each other (or agreeing to disagree) so maybe it's coming time to put these arguments to rest.
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No no, I said that the business approach and programming capability to deal with a screw up has nothing to do with the Digital DRM client service business model (which is the thing Steam didn't have anyone to follow) The other things you said were related to the misunderstanding, so they aren't part of the argument so I won't argue about them.
Yeah, I guess we pretty much came to an agreement, the only problem is misunderstandings pf the arguments like this one.
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Even with the misunderstandings, we're still pretty much saying the same thing, so it's probably not that important that we work them out :p
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I think all online distribution/DRM programs have a certain irksome quality to them, Steam is no exception to this. I mean, I'm perfectly cool with it myself, but people's experiences with the various programs varies a lot.
The "steam used to be just as bad" thing is inaccurate though. Sure the service used to be rocky, but there was never a time that they had the same data collection policies with access denial if you disagreed. I'm pretty sure I can install pre-Steam games and patch/play them without it attempting to force me to install the added DRM and agree to its attached EULA. Also, I'm pretty sure whenever Steam is going to transmit non-essential information, it tells you what it's going to send and gives you the option not to. Correct me if I'm wrong, here.
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I took apart tge "steam used to be just as bad" argument like three times in this thread, I don't feel like retyping it.
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This. Origin is just the DRM client and chat program. Each game handles it's own multiplayer, just like Steam.
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Didn't they release an update for Origin that completely broke multiplayer for all Origin games for like two weeks? I won't pretend to be an expert on this, but saying "each game handled its own multiplayer" is a bit misleading, considering the vast number of games published by EA could all use Origin, just like TF2 and DotA use steam.
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To be honest, even Valve sucks sometimes, just watch this 6 minute video, it's pretty much self explaining
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Didn't watch the video, feel I don't need to. If I want proof Valve can suck, I can just look at Greenlight. At least, for the most part, Valve has their shit together, and problems you encounter are the exception - given how many services Steam actually offers (chat program, shopping mall, download service, mod center) it's a little amazing things don't break more often. Origin isn't necessarily AS bad as some people would claim, and it does have its positives (for example, it doesn't need to be running to play games) but for most people, and given EA's history with PR and customer service, Origin is still the worse option.
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If you would have watched the video you would have seen that this isn't about a Steam issue, but the joke of matchmaking in a Valve game that has been reported and unhandled since ages (and Dota has its own Valve staff who have nothing to do with the Steam staff). And saying "hey we don't have time for a fix, because we need fourteen new sets of hats!" isn't far away from EA standards. People just tend to gloryfy Steam/Valve because these kind of errors mentioned above have alredy occured and fixed here years ago so we don't see them today anymore.
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That's exactly the thing. Steam is the first service of its kind. There were no standards or examples to follow when they tread the path, of COURSE they fucked it up early on. Origin DOES have an example to follow, and when you made your service for the express purpose of competing with Steam, I have no idea why you wouldn't try to meet or exceed the standards Valve has now set. Origin could have easily been a lot better than Steam, I will not pretend otherwise, but it simply isn't at this time.
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games run a bazillion times easier on steam.
even trying to troubleshoot origin stuff yourself is almost impossible compared to steam.
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I Totally do not understand! I had the account due to some steam game long ago.. After the recent Humble Origin Bundle, I installed Origin and Dead Space 3 is the first game I installed.. Until today, I have no problem installing, playing, activating keys, whatsoever..
Or am I a special lucky case that comes in once/decade?
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lucky. and late, steam was buggy first year, origin has been buggy since inception and continues strongly so to this day.
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origin is the shittiest software on planet earth. i downloaded in order to activate dead space 3 and got like 35 errors in 20 minutes. i just deleted it and im not going to download it ever again even if they give me all of EA's games for free.
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Yes you need to re-dl but that's how crap they are, they don't even CRC check their downloads into the client.
Steam works fine, Origin is borked.
My 'save installer' thing isn't working.
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Yeah, another great thing from EA, all games are accessed through Origin, but CD-key activations are all over the place. No way they can add your CD-key activated on Origin to your Sims3 account right? It's not like they're both linked... oh wait, they are.
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I guess that counts for something when you're going to have to be using it far more often.
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I had similar issues but I believe it was more BF3 Battle log related, as I couldn't connect to any server because I had a "Connecting..." Freeze my BF3 game up.
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How pain in the ass that battle log is.I got BF3 in the bundle and after one year of waiting I could finally play it, but that battle log if the most ridiculous system I have ever seen for a multiplayer game.The problem is that the browser consumes resources that could have been consumed by the game.It can be a problem on lower-end PCs as far as I know...
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Not only is the download speed slow, but after installing Sims 3, I had to update it twice with about 2 Gb of patches before I could play. Why in God's name does it install an outdated version of the game then have you download the latest patches? On Steam the games installs as the latest patched version right away.
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+1, but there's a problem with Sims 3 too, for me it failed at downloading the patch, after 8% it just paused itself forever, so I had to download and install manually, which wouldn't be a problem, but the download was around 200Kb/s instead of 2Mb/s
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I had this same exact problem. Three hours to download Spore, then spend another hour installing a damn patch. What the hell?
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This is such a peeve of mine. On one hand, I don't want to complain too much because console games do this. But on the other, we're talking about PC platforms here, and Steam being one of the first and widely-used should be an example to EA/Origin. You install something on Steam and 99% of the time it's up-to-date. The only downside I have with installing games on Steam is having to wait for DirectX and such to install for the 100th time, but I believe that's Microsoft's fault in the end, not Steams. Point is, Origin was set up to compete with Steam and it seems they act more like a console service than a PC service such as Steam.
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Never had any problems with Origin to be honest, unlike Steam.
Download speed is good (15 minutes for DS3 != 2 weeks for Shogun 2 on Steam - I never got more than 1MB on Steam :|), the client does not freeze (I get this at least 5 times a day with Steam) and the tech support is cool (only used it to activate old games and they got me free games :D).
Playing is fine as well, no problem with DS3 or any other game, SP/MP or Co-Op.
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Haven't had any issues with Origin so far and their customer support is pretty fast compared to steam but sometimes a pain in the A. Their forum mods are some of the best people I've had to deal with...
Compared to the steam bugs/crashes which we had to deal with in the earlier stages Origin is pretty smooth.
Also, some of the games on Origin do not need Origin to be running and present to play them..
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Thats a bad reason...actually is that even Origins fault? Probably the game itself...
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Don't the devs make the games? Ea is a publisher correct?
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I suppose, but still to hate a client because one game has messed up multiplayer is a bit funny to me...
I have had issues on Steam but that doesn't make me hate it or go "Fuck this, I'm out!".
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i just started to play BF3...cool game, but i wtf'ed and facepalmed at battelog.
why? just why? it's COMPLETELY uneccessary and annoying. was it really THAT hard to implent a server browser ingame? or maybe in a seperate origin window at least?
no, EA wants us all to install even more crap to be paranoid about.
/end of rant
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Yeah, and let's not forget that you won't even be able to play the campaign if you don't have Internet conection because of that "levolutionary" battlelog.
Oh, and that it makes the game completely incompatible with Tridef, making each startup through DDD like playing roulette while going all in for one number.
/I hope this is the end of my personal rant with this "launcher"
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you actually can play the single player offline, if your origin login details are saved on your PC.
i've tried because i won't have internet 'til saturday, starting tomorrow.
well, not that it would be a great loss not to be able to play single player offline...tried it and the first thing you'll notice: "leaving mission zone" - k, no flanking? just camp and wait? well, cool enviroments, let's pretend i'm watching a movie instead.
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Oh, Ok. Didn't know that was possible if the Battlelog was loaded from the servers each time, thanks for the info.
Yeah, the campaign is just a linear (like, very lineal) and boring roller coaster; which denotes the lack of content of this game. If you are unable to play multiplayer, this game is as entertaining as loading another person's save file and playing the very ending of Mass Effect 3 right when the little light being appears... but with even less choice.
Why couldn't they add something to make it stand up a little? Maybe a teather or map editor? Something that has been in the games as early as 2007?
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right now, the worst thing in campaign for me is.. polish dubbing, like srsly its so fucking crap, for me it makes the game boring, just that dubbing, campaign itself isnt that bad, i ve seen worse but that dubbing... hopefully in mp its a lot better :) just cannot adapt to this game after playing ut2k4 so long (quake like game) everything is different and visibility is much worse, also many campers there... i think i ve seen some cheaters thou like shooting through the wall or something like that
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Have you ever listened to a Spanish dubbing?
That makes BF3's polish one sound like Mass Effect's OVA. And that's a very sad indicator of the videogame industry outside English-speaking countries.
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i bet all countries has crappy dubbing. but in polish dubbing is at last one good thig, in the polish version guy who is also making dubbing in The penguuins, his voice is awesome, but hes the only exceptions... rest is just crap :( (hes the one whos interviewing our main character - the fat one D: )
btw, i have never played mass effect, i never like that serie sorry, so i dont know :D but well spanish one must be bad too ^^ if u say so :)
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The trick here is to realise that Origin is just the launcher DRM / digital distribution platform. Origin itself doesn't host the servers for multiplayer, although a whole bunch of the games sold on Origin are EA-based (who are sometimes responsible for the servers). I can't really say much on Dead Space 3 because I haven't played that one or even looked inside the game to see what's what. It's kinda like how Steam is the launcher for many games not made on the source engine nor hosted by Valve.
Though I suppose in a sense, because you can only patch and launch Dead Space 3 through Origin, I can see how that distinction can get muddied (and in an indirect sense, reflect on the general Origin experience). It's kinda like how the original All Points Bulletin actually had its main servers situated in germany, and the connection and lag issues were a mixture of the hosts and the spaghetti coding/patching that went on. Technology! \o/
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95% of your problems aren't even origin related. Instead of all the ranting, try to help op :)
Have you tried forwarding game related ports? EA Support says the following:
Please enable the following online ports on your connection:
TCP: 80, 443, 9988, 20000-20100, 22990, 17502, 42127
UDP: 3659, 14000-14016, 22990-23006, 25200-25300
For specific instructions on how to open your ports, please visit http://www.portforward.com/ or contact your router manufacturer.
Maybe this helps. If it doesn't I'll see if I can find other options :)
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At first I was like "I don't see why people hate it, it's just like steam" then my friend and I started to play Dead Space 3 co-op. No matter how many times we tried, the infamous "failed" always showed up.
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