Indeed. Xeno you miss the whole point of this thread.
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If it's a Steam game, just look at their library.
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But like I said what if they give the code to their friend or use it on a smurf account? Then you wouldn't know if he actually used it or not.
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Then tell their friend to be the one to make the trade. As for other accounts, find a way to prove it, find a trustworthy trader or don't make the trade.
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... what the fuck are you high on? Everything about your post was massively stupid.
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are you saying that to me? I thought you directed it to the person i'm replying to. It's a scam. How would you know who their friend is? Tell their friend to be the one to make the trade? You're missing the point. The purpose is by giving it to their friend is to scam you...
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Wait, it just occurred to me. Who the hell gives the code to the middleman?
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when I do it I make sure I have the code and the game. then I give the other party the code. I once did a code trade where both myslef and the other person gave codes to yatter. The middleman can also iff if the one guy says the code did work if the game is in the other persons account.
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The middleman is not stealing the code lol.. the arbitrary friend is.
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If that happens, then have the code revoked since it has been stolen. If you have proof of purchase this should be possible.
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But that's what middleman is for right? So that you can trade keys safely. But it's not exactly safe.
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Not necessarily. It's so you can trade untradeable things, or tradeable things in exchange of money.
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Oh right forgot about PayPal and things like that.
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they do and have banned people for selling games. You are not allowed to profit off of steam unless you have signed a contract with them. If someone sells games that they have bought from steam and make a profit they have commited fraud. Steam is not above the law and has to terminate any people who are using thier accounts to commit criminal acts. So yes they do ban.
Mind you that's if your caught doing it. It's even mentioned in the eula. Also you are bound by US law buy signing the EULA no matter where you sign it, so saying your country doesn't see Fraud as a crime will not hold up in US court. as mentioned in:
"You agree that this Agreement shall be deemed to have been made and executed in the State of Washington, and any dispute arising hereunder shall be resolved in accordance with the law of Washington"
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Pretty sure those people were buying games in Country A and selling them to users in Country B. THAT is what will get you in trouble (and typically it takes some doing to get noticed by Steam), but selling games is not against the rules.
Also, the EULA is only valid in the US. And they're not even always enforceable here, let alone in other countries. Canada may be different (i.e. included) since the US and Canada are pretty close with laws such as these.
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Actually the Eula isn't just vailid in the US. By signing it you give faull rights for valve to close you account and refuse you acess to all your games. Mind you I'm just pointing out the one half of this issues. But hey if you really wanna put caution to the wind then ignore me. But I'm just tired of hearing all these kids crying because they were caught and had thier accouynt banned and valve's an evil company. I'm just saying accoring to these terms, if you caught valve hass to take action.
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Yatterman will watch the trader type the code on his account through Skype Video call or something. I've asked him before.
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But if the scammer gave the code to his friend to activate then it would say duplicate key. Then the middleman would think that the person trading the key traded a used key.
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that's why you get a middleman who is trustworthy. In the case that you show the middleman is the scammer too, for if person A says that the code doesn't work then the middle man checks if the game is in persons A account. If not then he says did you try it? if the person says yes then the middleman tries the code too. If the code works then it's tought titties for the scammer. Guy B wins. If the middle man scams the game then thier name will be posted and he'll be marked.
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Teamviewer let's you do that? That's pretty cool.
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I have done several code trades and never used a middleman
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Couldn't someone trade "key" saying it's real key even if it isn't?
Always curious about how they know if the key is legit or not.
(not related to middleman but is related to scamming)
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Well usually the ones who trade keys go first, so if the key doesnt activate, you can just cancel the trade....
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So far the only time i traded a key for games (a battlefield 3 DLC code), i did without a middleman (it was going to be Yatterman actually, but in the end we went through without bothering him anymore), and i sent the trader several pics of the email with the key, clearly leaving my email account visible in case there is any trouble. Knowing how easy it is to scam someone and to get scammed, i prefer to give the guy the confidence and trust. I dont understand why people are not careful enough, knowing they're trading something they spent money on....
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Okay I understand the concept of having a middleman if you want to trade a code but you don't want to get scammed. But say person A (scammer) wants to trade his game for a code from Person B. Person A will give the game to middleman and Person B will give code to middleman. Then Person A gets the code, gives it to his friend Person C, and he uses it. Then person A tells the middleman that the code doesn't work. Person A gets their game back and Person B gets scammed. So what can one do to prevent this?
Edit: sorry I wasn't that clear. It's NOT the middleman stealing the code. It's the person receiving the code who does the stealing. After he receives the code, he can give it to a friend or use it on a smurf account and then tell the middleman that the code isnt working right? Then middleman and the other trader would check and find out he's right. They go to his library but the game is not there. Scam=successful.
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