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Yikes, somebody is overgeneralizing. It's only technically a "military coup" because that is what the American media has been calling it. The military is involved here in insisting that Morsi is ousted as a response to public pressure and unrest, not as a power grab.
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mursi didnt want to negotiate with the other parties he insisted on his power, and he didnt care for the millions of the people on the streets thats why the military came into scene to stop the violence and help the people.
after being decades under political pogrom the muslim brotherhood wanted more and more power to establish their association.
many of his political decisions were made against the will of the masses.
That was no democracy so people who first voted for him were against him because he abused his powers.
(in juny he even called for jihad in syria!)
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It doesn't looks like THAT genre of military coup. Not necessarily a military coup is antidemocratic.
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Anytime a government is deposed by force, it would be undemocratic by definition of the process.
Now, I can see executive order to remove a leader from office that has been officially and parliamentarily removed in a proper fashion according to law, and then refuses to step down according to the letter of said law.
Is that what happened? If so, then it wasn't a coup, it was law enforcement. Otherwise, looks like a coup.
The ballot box and representation are the only ways I'm aware of to safely and non-violently remove someone from office.
I'm ignorant to the situation there in Egypt, but was there any viable way to remove the president from office administratively? In most democracies/republics there is usually some way (albeit difficult at times).
edit: I also realize and recognize that there are some elected leaders that quickly turn to means outside of the law to maintain and grow power. Again, he may have been breaking the law and refusing to acknowledge that. Clarifying that I'm not necessarily negatively judging the coup (I don't know enough either way - trying to read more now but having trouble getting much more than what's been said here), just saying that it is likely denotatively a coup.
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Anti-Morsi protesters have gang-raped a female Dutch reporter and more than 100 women have been sexually assaulted. How can you claim you are better than morsi supporters? And it's a military coup by definition, not all military coupsare made to take power for themselves. Don't be ignorant, read a dictionary.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/03/opinion/burleigh-rapes-tahrir-square
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I think you're right about the coup, but it's a fallacy to claim that the actions of some insane protesters (on either side) can be translated as values of an entire movement. I hear this kind of "logic" every day on the radio here. It's still not true.
Pick your battles, man. Stay as high on the fallacy hierarchy chart as possible! Maintain your honor! :)
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Wow. Hey guys. Maybe a deep breath? Expand that peripheral vision.
Are y'all both Egyptians?
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Yeah. I can hear all this people out there making all sorts of noise. I don't understand though why they want to overthrow this new president.
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I prefer the safety and comfort from my apartment. Time like this there's barely any law and all sorts of opportunistic evil from street mugger and rapers lurks around. My friend didn't heed my advice to stay indoors last sunday, he got mugged in broad day light.
Plus I don't own any digital camera and there's a new building in front of my apartment blocking the view.
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Care to explain why? Surely you don't expect the country to change in just a year? After 30 years under Mubarak, there's many things need to be done and undone.
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yes i dont expect it to change in a year but also there is something named "Signs" about the country going to be better in the future which didnt exist at all while he was a president we were in lots of proplems everyday no electricity and even No Water! and His Terrorist Friends just Keep Killing Persons From The Army,Police,Normal People in Their Channels They kept Asking Their People To "Die and Kill others For the Cause of The President" as they claim We Would've Been Another Afghanistan and Even Worse Than it if he stayed as president and imho if you live in egypt you should've Seen Millions of People in the streets Want Him to be Gone
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Nothing will change as long as the military stays the center of power.
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I just read that there's a consortium of pretty disparate groups working together as an interim government. So that is a pretty good sign.
I hope it goes as smooth as possible for y'all and that you have a proper, representative government soon.
Godspeed and good luck.
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Yeah. You're not kidding. Gonna be tough but incredibly rewarding.
Can't wait to see y'all get and keep a good thing going.
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Observe the Muslim countries closely. Both Egypt and Turkey are in turmoil. Syria is fighting a civil war where countless war crimes are being committed, its brutal and the whole thing is ready to spill into Lebanon. The "revolution" in Tunisia seems to be going strong with its last victim having been assassinated in 6 Feb 2013 and everyone knows what's happened to Muammar Gaddafi of Libya, right?
It seems your destabilization plan of the east is a success, America. In hindsight, everything seems to have started with your "removal" of Saddam Hussein. These guys are like aliens, they'll tell you that they come in peace, only to steal your petrol and exploit your natural resources. Arab Spring, yeah right.
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I think Turkey should not be mentioned alongside the rest of the arab spring nations. The situation is quite different there, and Turkey itself has a unique secularist political system that is very different than your run of the mill Islamist nations.
In Egypt and maybe in other countries of the Islamic world there will still be some instability unless the new government controls at least 2 of those 3 principles: The armed forces, a degree of democratic freedom and reforms, and religion.
As for the coup, no one knows. If the power remains in the hands of the military chances are things are going to be the same or worse for Egyptians. There is however a possibility that the coup may usher in a new period of stability. It remains to be seen.
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Guys this thing that had did military good for us ,, military had did right thing that people want because no one saw we saw when President: Mohamed Morsi had won in election ,, he didn't implemented anything of people want even his projects didn't make anyone of it,, i live in egypt i suffering from high prices bad government people killed in streets and he didn't even talk about that and military know everything ,, so they moved him away from position ,, and military will control the country until new president come it will take 3 years so please don't say military coup
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It's a coup. You may have wanted it to happen, but it's still a coup.
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"Egypt is partying pretty hard right now."
The military and the 20% of the population which supports them are. The rest of us know where all of this is leading (again).
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http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
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