Hey Guys,

I tried for 1h to get cheap items on the Market and
resell them for a higher price. I found SO many
Items that where very cheap. Right after I clicked on the
Item it was already sold. Most of those "really fast buyers"
have a private steam profile. I read the reddit thread about the
botuser who got busted, but I think there are many more users, who
are botting?

What do u think?

1 decade ago*

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How do you know who bought?

I tried a bit of arbitrage when cards first came out, made a tiny bit, but a lot of misses before you can earn a few pence. You have to be on high volume items if you want a quick sale, so there are a lot of people waiting.

I think a lot of it is lucky timing, like getting key drops here, you have to turn up at the exact moment.

Bots should be spotted by the speed at which they go through multiple items. If you are trying manually there is little benefit to watching more than one at once.

1 decade ago
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I saw 4 different items which where under price.
then i clicked on it and it was gone. i expected some
botters. Thats why i kept actualising the site. after like
20 sec the item was up again and it was everytime the same user.
Also reported him via Profile reporting function and steam support.

1 decade ago
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Why do you report this guy? Because he is faster than you? Come on.

1 decade ago
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Yeah, seems pretty weird. I also tend to flip cards, maybe not making 0,01 cent on each one, but still... I don't want to get reported by some overzealous guy who's probably mad because somebody clicked faster than him.

1 decade ago
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I know what you mean, but in all honesty, it won't hurt for them to investigate or watch him. What if what OP said is true? If it is false, then nothing will come of it. If what OP says is true, they will catch this guy.

1 decade ago
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You know, this could be me or somebody else doing it manually. From my experience, you gotta buy an underpriced item as soon as it happens to appear and it is possible to do this without using third party programs. I got nothing to hide, but OP seems kinda butthurt that people make money from buying underpriced stuff and he's always late.

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If he's being beaten to it by a bot, then he has a right to be butthurt. Although, I'm not sure how effective reporting is, as Valve should have no trouble catching bots by going through Market statistics.

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Yeah, you are right, though even if there were no bots, there are still dozens of people browsing and lurking for some good trades. Yesterday I managed to get 2 foil cards for 0,20 each and somehow I was the first to click on "buy", so it's sometimes a matter of luck. Of course I don't deny the existence of bots...

1 decade ago
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Don't you know? Just like TF2 is actually a hat simulator, Steam (and some related communities) is actually a cops and robbers ARG.

1 decade ago
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I'd say it's likely, but steam also has a huge userbase and people flock to easy money.

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that was one user out of possibly 100+

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i'm sure there are at least 1000+

1 decade ago
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Wow.

1 decade ago
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Good. Hopefully they ban his ass permanently. What a cheater.

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Just look at how fast cards sell. I was surprised myself. When I put one up it was usually gone within a few seconds and it wasn't extremely cheap (0.01$ cheaper or same price as tons of other cards, not enough to make profit with it). On Steamgifts ninja keys are usually gone within 2-3 seconds, now imagine what happens on Steam with a user base 1000x as large if you sell a very cheap item you can use to make profit. Not saying nobody ever used a bot on Steam, but it is more likely that in most cases it were real people who were faster than you.

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Thats why I asked steam to check his market transactions.
I saw this dude 4 times selling a item 1 cent cheaper after it was on
an unusual price

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I wouldn't mind if steam checked my transactions. I have nothing to hide. I am so surprised that people are upset that you reported him. As long as you have reasonable basis for your belief, (and maybe proof), I believe Valve should be able to look into things. It would be a different story if you got a guy instant suspended or banned on a suspicion, but I don't think Valve pulls crap like that.

1 decade ago
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Reading this made me realize that my ninja skills are probably so well developed, that I can beat machines...

1 decade ago
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Oh, I thought I was the only one :(

1 decade ago
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ninjas

1 decade ago
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Omg, I just realiced right now, how reckless many people are. If you
d have read the reddit thread, you would have noticed that botting is a serious buisiness.
I hope Valve can check his time, he bought items after they went for an unusual price.
You culd belive that there are many botters or you only think everything is running legit.

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Wouldn't surprise me that people bot to get cheap stuff.

1 decade ago
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gaben bot?

1 decade ago
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Sounds like a case of butthurt.

1 decade ago
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Maybe in your ears.

1 decade ago
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/marketbot/ there are lots of them right now on steam :) fortunately i don't use market anymore

1 decade ago
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This thread is 3 months old :(...

1 decade ago
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So then we should stop bumping it :)

1 decade ago
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I've been grabbing some cheap stuff and resold it the past week. Lets face it: OP is just too slow. And it isn't very suprising that a super cheap item isn't avalabile for more than 5 seconds when there are ten thousands of people constantly browsing for such bargains.

Just look at steamgifts and them ninjas. NO KEY DROP will ever work when the thread doesn't show less than "created 5 seconds ago" when you clicked on it.

Sure there might be some bots (especially on super popular stuff I'd guess), but really there is just a shit ton of people too which makes you think there'd be bots anyway.

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Closed 1 decade ago by iRavage.