For me the important thing has always been about price. It being cheap is all that has ever mattered for me. Platform and such has never mattered, nor has buying only from official resellers been an issue. Even if it was an issue, why would anyone buy anything from steam? Literally every single game I can find on steam that also exists on epic, its cheaper on epic. Just bought HZD on epic for the full price of 34.99 euro in comparison to steams whopping 49.99.

The biggest argument I've seen is convenience, something I'd consider irrelevant to the highest degree since it's all easy anyway, 2 clicks of my mouse for any launcher, NBD, it's just so simple no matter platform. For ubisoft games, usually not only is it cheaper, but you still have to use uplay regardless anyway. Not sure how steam now handles EA games or if you have to use Origin or not.

Even the sales are always pretty bad nowadays on steam and you can 99.99999999% of the time find a game cheaper elsewhere, even if official resellers is an issue for you.

So other than fanboying, is there really any other reason on why to purchase games on Steam? (steam keys not counted).

Edit: Since apparently it wasn't fully clear, I meant purchasing directly from the steam store, not keys acquired elsewhere

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Because they give you points with which you can buy from the point market. Pimp my profile :))

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'Why would anyone buy from steam anymore?'

'is there really any other reason on why to purchase games on Steam? (steam keys not counted)'

The goalposts, they've been fired from the surface of earth to the end of the universe at light speed!

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I mean keys that redeem on steam don't count. Buying from lets say humble wouldn't count in this case

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I mean they do, they're on Steam and its one of if not the biggest advantages of Steam. If Steam didn't exist you wouldn't have these keys circulating on Humble or any of the other sites. You may not directly go onto the Steam storefront to buy them, but without it you wouldn't have the Steam keys to buy.

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My question though was why purchase directly from steam, sorry if that wasn't clear

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In that case I'd say that there are games which are not available on other platforms or are not available at a reasonable price in comparision as their sales can be even worse than Steam and that there are games which can't be easily acquired as a key such as Rimworld.

Though I will admit there's a real issue with developers making their own pricing on the Steam store unattractive, and whether games end up being far cheaper as a key is down to how the developer distributes those keys. Since no other site is as permissive with keys seperate to their storefront Steam is an outlier, developers for the most part are trying to shift as many copies as they want by selling on third party sites or putting the games in bundles.

I'd say for a large amounts of games the way Steam has operated has meant that direct Steam store purchases have been made obselete. But there's still some out there which is enough for me to still buy some things directly as well as stuff which doesn't get released on other storefronts, and if I don't want to wait until they've put the game in a bundle or offloaded a ton of keys to a third party site I have to buy direct. I guess its like the difference between buying a game on release and waiting until the next sale, and whether thats worth it to you is down to how enthusiastic you are for the game.

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lol thumbs up

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Maybe not but at least the keys are 100% legit, you get bit of cashback from the cards and you have 2h window to refund the game if it turns out it's ass or your PC won't run it properly.

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+1 the refund system is very good the way it is with steam and much better than most of the others i know

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GOG currently has the best return policy. You can refund up to 30 days after buying even if you downloaded and played it.

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Ah okay yeah I never used that so I wouldn't know

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I think if you want to support the game maker, it helps them if you to buy on steam and leave a positive review. Apparently the review tally on Steam store page only take into account purchases through steam directly. And game ratings on Steam, being the major distribution platform, matters a lot to a game's sale. I read that from a apiece written by a game developer somewhere... Can't remember where now.

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Does reviews actually help? Since review bombing became a thing, I stopped looking at reviews completely, whether it be on steam where they supposedly fixed the issue or it be on something like metacritic

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I believe review bombing is exactly why Steam only count direct Steam purchases in their review score calculation, for better or for worse.
How much does review influence a game's sale is a legit question. I'm sure there are many influences in a game's sale. But there must be a reason why that game developer preferred players to buy via Steam and leave the review, even though Steam gives the developers lower cut in revenue.

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Yes it does. I have purchased games that i wanted after reading the reviews. And i also have not purchased games that i wanted and was about to do so, until i checked the reviews.

Also i have bought games after reading the review that were not on even on my radar.

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I feel like reviews USED to be useful but since everyone leaving a review now has an agenda or doing it for the lulz/memes they have for me lost all value

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Epic Games Launcher is an epic pile of shit, that's my reason. Until I get an actually functioning, convenient store and library with filtering/organizing features, I won't even consider buying from there.

Regarding Steam in general though, I think it's the social aspect it offers. Games on Steam have achievements, screenshots, play time, reviewing, game hub with discussions, guides, groups, and even friends info related to the game (owners, wishlists, reviews) not to mention trading cards, badges, emotes and backgrounds to customize your Steam profile. For many, this is worth the extra few bucks spent on the game to have it on Steam over other platforms. If you're only buying to play the game and that's it, then sure, you can buy everywhere without concern. But most people on Steam have a large number of friends and are very active in communities. Losing all these social features for the sake of saving a few bucks is simply not worth it.

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I see, I suppose this is an aspect I haven't really considered, but it still begs the question as to why not buy steam keys but not directly from steam itself. I can understand disliking other platforms for a lack of features and while the social aspect has no bearing for me, I can relate to how it might be different for others.

I might not have been fully clear but I meant, buying from steam directly and not keys aquired elsewhere that redeem on steam.

Edit: Also yeah, if my entire steam library was exported to Epic, the lack of sorting would really suck

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I bought 15 unbundled games for about 20 euros in the most recent sales. I had about five euros in card money saved up since the last sale without even trying, and got 5 euro extra off with the promotion, plus the discounts themselves. So I got a bunch of games that were already like 80 percent off, and then had another 10 euros taken off my total through Steam. Not a bad deal if you ask me, I've bought more expensive bundles for fewer games.

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Oh, I often buy keys instead of directly on the Steam store.

The reason for buying on the Steam store is quite simple - Steam wallet funds. You can earn them via selling market items, then exchange it for games on the store. Also you may have been gifted a wallet code/gift card. Additionally, I assume regional pricing may be a factor - some regions get better balanced prices on Steam I think.

As for me, there are many instances where the Steam store offers the same/better price for a game I want, so I just buy there instead.

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I didnt bought anything on steam this year because the new billing policy they started using, and I dont trust steam that much that I just put card info and such into it. I also never bought anything beyond 12 euro out of discipline, because I think games costing 50-60 euro is outrageous. As for other launchers like epic and origin, I'm fine without them since what they are offering is things I can live without.
I use steam cause you can haggle and get games for cards and gems and tf2 keys, and the fact that I have like 1,5k games on it which im slowly burning through

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Oh they have a new billing policy? Have any recommendations as to where I can read a short summary or something of whats changed?

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Its country specific, my country require them to ask for it so they can tax it or something. Its not something you need to worry about

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Regional pricing? Epic doesn't have it.

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Epic does have it for some countries it seems, I'm being charged in SEK rather than EUR like steam does

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I'm being charged on Epic with USD while on steam it's PHP which has a significant drop in terms of pricing.

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Interesting, so Steam doesn't offer regional pricing for my region but Epic does, but for you it's the opposite

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Seems so, but price difference differ depending on the game.
For example:
• RDD2 - $44.99 on Epic but $37.17 on converted price on steam.
• Satisfactory - $12.95 on Epic but $11.81 on converted price on steam.
• Disco Elysion - $15.99 on Epic but $12.57 on converted price on steam.
• Desperados III - $24.67 on Epic but $25.15 on converted price on steam.
• SpongeBob Game - $14.74 on Epic but $15.05 on converted price on steam.
• Horizon Zero Dawn - $29.99 on Epic but $20.20 on converted price on steam.

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HZD $14.60 regional pricing :D

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It shows for $13 in my country :)
and Desperados 3 deluxe for $16

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How is that fair? I'm from Serbia and pay the same as a german for example.

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damn Euro

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Also SEK here. Yeahhh this is probably the biggest thing regarding Epic for me. So sick of having to pay everything in Euro on every store. Not that it's money Epic would get from me anyway for reasons others have covered.

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This X 100. Quick example, ori and the will of the wisps, $30 base price, around $10 in my currency. And many more like that.

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As someone from the same country, I can say Epic does HAVE regional pricing, they just don't have regional converted currency. You also probably use paypal provider that has terrible currency conversion rates. I will pick a random example: Spongebob is $14.74 on Epic and P744.95 on Steam. On current google rates at the moment of this post, $14.74 is P729.74. So more or less equal right?

Well, you also have to consider Epic has constant $10 off coupons on their major sales, which severely tips the favor to Epic when it comes to cheaper games as long as it falls under the coupon's $15 value. So you can potentially buy a $15 game that is the same price on Steam for only $5. Even if you have terrible currency conversion issues with your payment provider you will still get it cheaper on Epic. Not to mention some prices on Epic is way below Steam, a major example would be Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order. I bought Star Wars for a whooping $9 because of the coupon and when it was on sale. It is $24 outside of sale on Epic. On Steam right now it's P1550. On sale.

I buy on both stores, just whatever is cheaper for me is better.

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"Complete your collection" bundles, for one.

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Oh that's true, thats one thing I completely forgot about, it just seems to be rare to have those anymore

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Discussion forums, sharing screenshots, playing with friends on your list, Workshop mods, integrated guides, achievements, solid linux support. Lots of reasons to use Steam over the competition.

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+1 for solid Linux support! I absolutely love having a huge library of Linux games!
I also like Itch because I mostly play indies anyway, but Steam has achievements, easy sharing with friends, and their biggest 'recent' selling point is Proton. The few Windows games I've really wanted to play happen to have Platinum or Gold ratings, like Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice. No more messing around with Wine or POL. It really is a great quality-of-life improvement for a full-time Linux user.

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Came here to say the same. For years Valve have supported Linux with Steam client, Proton and even VR.
While I'm not philosophically against using Epic, I refuse to while they provide games which have native Linux versions on Steam but not on Epic.

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Another +1 for Linux.

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I have many games on uplay (most of the assassin creed, division 1 and 2, far cry 3 4 and 5 and even primal), origin and GOG (all the witcher most important but many others too). achievements, cards are important but price is much more important to me.. I never saw the different clients as an issue..

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Complete the bundle discounts and low amounts of steam wallet from items/cards/trading. With the popularity of dlcs, if you get several but not all from a bundle, the cheapest way is to complete the dlc bundle on Steam. Regional pricing is a factor too, although many 3rd party sites offer regional currency, not all of them have regional pricing. For some others, clear refund rules, I have only refunded once on HB with an unrevealed store key but I assume it is more difficult to refund keys on 3rd party sites if you've used the keys than Steam's two hours two weeks rule.

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Wallet money from selling cards.

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Nice try Epic

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lmao

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You can make some money with csgo investments. it's convenient to pay with steam wallet and you will lose like 30% if you cash out. I bought games for 200 € and have not spent a single cent

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Steam wallet cards are the only payment method I use online.

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I mostly will buy on steam. Not only steam prices are the lowest for me on my region with local currency but they also give bragging rights so.... There's that... Let me use your purchased HZD as an example. You bought it in Epic for 34.99EUR but in my Steam region w/ local currency HZD only cost PHP999 w/c is around $20USD or 17.81EUR in full price. If I purchase it on Epic it would set me back $29.99USD or 26.47EUR.

So you're asking why would anybody still buy on Steam. Well my friend... =) Have a great day.

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Its quite interesting how regional pricing works. Obv if I could get HZD for even cheaper that would be even better for me. I wonder why Steam has regional pricing for some and not for others, same thing goes for epic. Steam for me in euros is always more expensive, even compared to other stores that also charges in euros

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I believe that there are submissions of having a local pricing for your region at some point but they're just not approved yet because of certain clauses and most probably it's because of tax. Here in my region there are no tax with digital purchases of whatever kind maybe that's why they approved the local pricing here but we used to use USD as the main currency before. Local pricing in my region was started back in 2014 so it's fairly new. Don't lose hope though.

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Nearly every game I bought this sale was at a historical low price on Steam. The first I bought this sale was Doom Eternal, which was at a historical low price on Steam. . https://gg.deals/game/doom-eternal/

And the last game I bought this sale (In Death), while not on a historical low, was priced lowest on Steam, and the historical low was also previously on Steam. https://gg.deals/game/in-death/

https://gg.deals/deals/?minRating=5&onlyBestDeal=1&onlyHistoricalLow=1

Lastly, Horizon Zero Dawn is the same price on both EGS and Steam for me ($49.99). That said, I'll be buying it on Steam.

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+1 except which games :)

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But... why? Why create yet another Steam vs. Epic thread? Everyone who has some position has already shared it a hundred times each, it's not like Epic has changed their policy or improved their store lately. You've already heard all the pro-Steam arguments numerous times, why do you need to hear them yet again?

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This is not necessarily about epic but rather that the Steam store is always the more expensive option for me but apparently not for everyone, what with regional pricing. So I guess steam is more worthwhile depending on where you live, which is something I didn't know before. I was aware of regional pricing but not that Steam chooses willy nilly on who gets better prices and who doesn't

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It's not up to Steam to choose pricing. They probably suggest regional pricing, but it's entirely up to a publisher whether to go with regional discounts and if yes, then to what extent.

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I honestly don't know anymore. I like the information Steam discussions etc. can provide but ofc that doesn't mean I have to buy the game on Steam. As jbond said, Epic launcher is pretty bad. I've just gotten used to buying on Steam, but ofc I buy a Steam key if it's cheaper.

Before I would have used the convenience argument because if you don't own any games on a platform you don't need the client installed but now it doesn't matter anymore because I have games on all platforms.

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Salty much? You are allowed to not like steam. I'm allowed to like it.

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Here in Mexico, steam prices are usually the best deal, plus buying on Steam gives hou a few benefits such as tokens and the hability to easily refund.

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I buy where it's cheaper.

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At some point Epic will stop trying to buy customers and with paid exclusives and $10 coupons, prices will go up and the amount they give to publishers will drop greatly.
The guarantee sales for games on epic is being counted in the number of game that game sold on epic and no one but the publishers know how many copies epic buys. Also if US laws could change to make it hard for a company like epic to run in the USA since it is 48.8% owned by China.

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Regional pricing and Steam features. It's mostly 1/3 or 1/2 price for me to buy on Steam then anywhere else. Yeah Epic has same regional prices but i am willing to pay Steam rather than Epic for now since that's my preferred client.

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Big Fish Games sells their games cheaper on Steam than on their own storefront, this is why I buy those there. Plus a lot of games are Steam exclusive. As in, they are sold only on Steam, nowhere else. (Just people never complain about that, like how they never complain about battle.net-only or Origin-only games, only EGS-only games). These are the only reasons, frankly. Other than that, I made the same observation, that it is pointless to throw money at Valve, legit key sites and competing launchers almost always give better deals than them.

Well, unless you live in a cheap region. Nobody can compete with the Russian/Chinese/Indian/etc. Steam store prices.

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Yeah, I never realized just what a difference regional pricing can do. Regarding the Steam exclusives, I get it, if you want a game and it's not available elsewhere, you don't really have a choice. I do agree with you how Steam exclusives are never mentioned as a problem even though it most definitely is.

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I never realized just what a difference regional pricing can do

Yup a big price table is worth a thousand words, for instance:
https://steamdb.info/app/223850/
In this case, highest price is 591% higher than lowest price.

It varies a lot with games though, but usually, unless the publisher is extra-aggressive in their price update policy and try to keep the difference small-ish (Ubisoft and EA come to mind), the difference between lowest and highest will range anywhere between x3 and x7

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Oh man holy crap, next time I'm going back to Asia, which is going to happen more frequently anyway, I'll go on a shopping spree and buy games from any store that offers regional pricing. Steam allows that right? Since I'm actually there and all, staying there for kinda long times. Keys bought in a region don't only work on that region? That would be draconic, console days :(

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Keys bought in a region don't only work on that region?

Actually I think it depends on games. I believe some have a run lock (I heard that in particular for the CIS/RU region), not sure how common this is.

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Go to Account details, you can update your "store country" there.

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Unfortunately doesn't work currently due to Horizon Zero Dawn cheapskates. Mayber they'll unlock it after sale has ended.

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I do agree with you how Steam exclusives are never mentioned as a problem even though it most definitely is.

They are never mentioned because it's the publisher or developer's choice where to sell their game, and nothing to do with Valve. It's not the same as Epic or Sony buying off the publisher for exclusivity.

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A de facto monopoly is as bad as a normal monopoly

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Just people never complain about that, like how they never complain about battle.net-only or Origin-only games, only EGS-only games

TBH, Origin-only has been primarily Origin/EA games; battle.net-only has been Bliz, etc., whereas Epic-only games are frequently any old dev/pub, not just Fortnite or even Unreal Engine games.

As well, with the recent move to put a bunch of EA stuff on Steam, there seems to have been a lot of positive feedback for EA. I see it as kind of the anti-anti-exclusivity-grumble. It's the same sentiment: lots of gamers would prefer to buy on Steam, regardless of who the exclusivity belongs to.

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