https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2117-ilzv-2837

From now on you will get VAC warnings and disconnects while playing VAC games if you run famous idling software. It may not VAC ban you, but can render game unplayable for some time. Idle carefully!

There are a number of common software conflicts that can cause this error. If you are running any of the following software, please disable it while playing:

  • CCleaner
  • Powershell
  • Sandboxie
  • Cheat Engine
  • IObit Start Menu 8
  • Process Hacker
  • DLL Injectors
  • Hypervisors
  • Steam Idlers

EDIT: From Steam Support:

We don't condone or recommend running Steam Idling services for any reason.

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Do you even idle, bro?

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h. Idle what? Never heard of it and I play all my games by myself. I have a lot of free time. ಠ_ಠ
6. I don't play games. I just idle them. It's a hobby of mine, don't judge me. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
6. Thanks for news. I will make sure to turn off idlers while playing CSGO \ (•◡•) /
M. haha you noob, you should idle cards on virtual machine ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
a. Where is the hidden giveaway? I don't care about this thread and just want free games. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

It's clownish.

They ban things that have nothing to do with cheating but ignore well documented methods.

How do people get so out of touch?

A million dollars at a time it seems.

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I think this is to hit and prevent faster cheating on those games,there is nothing mainly directed towards idlers.(It is not present yet in my local language)
Also, it won't prevent you from playing the game. Just disconnecting you from VAC secured servers.

I see here a good move from Valve for improving cheating prevention, as players were complaining that obvious cheaters could play weeks before getting banned.

Also, even if one of "famous idlers" (IM) use injection or similar technics, I don't see how users are affected as the idler process and threads aren't used to connect to any game servers.

It may not VAC ban you, but can render game unplayable for some time. Idle carefully!

There is no duration mentioned in your current link. Have you any source on that ?

While you give us this information as a warning (thanks for info between !), this is a good news for idling programs.
-> Use your idler as much as you like, if anything goes wrong, just close it.

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Good to know, thanks for the heads up!

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I was already doing that since i dont want to risk my account anyways:D! Thanks for the heads up doe!

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haha you noob, you should idle cards on virtual machine ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ

Considering that hypervisors are apparently considered just as bad as steam idlers, this wouldn't help much would it?

I wonder if having Sandboxie installed is enough to trigger anything if no sandboxed app is running. Good thing I don't play VAC-protected games so I don't have to find out.

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Personally, I'm against Idling programs... it's just so lazy. Simply install a shitty Gleam game that has cards, launch it, then go do something. Watch a movie, go to the store, make some food, etc. Even if you're only gone for an hour, that's an hour closer to getting your card drops.

However, that is an extremely unfair punishment. Sure, you can idle to boost your hours to make yourself look like a "pro", but on games that have Stats, it's pretty easy to identify an idler when they have 1,000 hours on record and only been in 60 games with 50 hours of actual gameplay. And even then, it's not cheating, just stupid. Valve is just a little too proud of themselves that they can FUC... I mean VAC ban players.

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People have slow internet, data caps, time restrictions, no free space on hard drives, thousands of games. There are reasons for idling programs to exist. People always try to automate boring and time consuming tasks.

Sure it's lazy, but if I would manually idle my games, I could probably be able to do one game a day, it would take me 6 years to do the job for games I have activated. I still have few hundreds keys to add. By end of this year I can see myself getting another 500 games. And lots of unnecessary downloads.

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What are the alternatives for ASF?

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Why? As far as we know only IM is impacted by this.

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I followed everything in Valve's "Why am I triggering VAC guide" and couldn't figure out why I kept getting kicked from CSGO matches. Welp, I got a week-long ban now, so thanks for changing things without telling us Valve.

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Might I ask, where the

EDIT: From Steam Support:

is comming from? Or was it a private chat/ticket?

7 years ago
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I found this on IdleMaster Group Discussion on Steam

7 years ago
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Thanks, but this also states only "Idling while playing is bad."

The mentioned edit in OPs post would be "idling is always bad".

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this was from my ticket

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Ah, ok. Thank you.
I'm not a native english speaker and I'm a bit unsure about "condone". Does that mean they just do not officially allow them or does that mean they actually forbid using them?

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