random thread that i am sure are atleast 300 already but what are you listening to lately (music i mean )... i've been listening a lot of Queen of the stone ages, i tried listening to it a long while ago because foo fighers is my favorite band and dave grohl my favorite musician and they tend to work togheter, but i didnt really liked it before, but now i really love their robot rock, and also Eagles of fucking death metal, i really love those guys, i started listening to them for the same reason that with QotSA but i liked the all along.. here ara a couple of tracks :D... oh and also thanks again to our lord and savior Dave Grohl i've been listeing to the soundtrack of Sound City a lot

Cherry Cola - Eagles of death metal
Sick, Sick, Sick - Queens of the Stone age
Sound City OST - The Man That Never Was (Grohl, Hawkins, Mendel, Smear, Springfield)

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The Glitch Mob - Come Closer

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From side one of "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme" by Simon and Garfunkle. (I'm not as fond of side two.)

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Mostly been listening to Wo Fat and Gojira lately.

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Make sure you bring your towel for this one... Thanks For All The Fish

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This is America on repeat since Friday :|

Can't stop.

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Drum and bass from a simpler, calmer time when "21st century" still sounded like "~Da pHutURe~" and before those incomprehensible subgenre designations (neurofunk anyone?) had been fashioned out of thin air. Initial track sounds cheesy to me but I really like this mix when it gets going.

VA - mixed by Decoder - 21st Century Drum N Bass CD 2/3

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neurofunk is great ...maybe not nowdays...It just got worse as dubstep hit the mainstream
and influenced all subgenre of DNB
kosheen and cheesy? they have made such awesome stuff.... (hide u) just does not fit the rest of the mix

i've been running this mix for years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvWm1OnAjs (also with "hide u"(~38:00) but not completely out of place)

@neuro https://soundcloud.com/eaxsound/spor-b2b-chris-renegade-renegade-hardware-babylon-album-launch-party-06062008
probably one of the best sets I ever know

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Ooh, I like that first mix, thanks. It's rougher than the one I posted. I agree with your point about "Hide u", it does not fit my set (and it in first position so sets a misleading tone) but blends in much better with yours, partly because its sound is generally less clean. My main issue with the track lies in the female vocals which to me sound a bit as if the guys were trying to go for a radio single. This is no longer particularly the impression I get with the Ed Rush & Optical set.

I'm trying to understand those subgenre titles but keep failing and that is my main issue with them, it often feels like I'm stuck in a Mornington Crescent situation! I could not possibly identify what makes one track Neurofunk rather than, for instance, Neurohop, Hardstep or Darkcore, and the random generator quality these genre names have to them further make me wonder if this is just someone having a joke. (See also your second set which has been assigned a dozen rather heterogeneous tags - I mean, Hardstep and Happy Hardcore at once? This is what I come across whenever I try to understand.) But it may well be that they make sense to someone who knows their way around DNB which I emphatically don't. Ultimately they are just words though...I still like the music. ("It's just music" - Charlie Parker)

Anyway, another more recent set I enjoy, from Black Sun Empire who, according to Wikipedia, have been labelled neurofunk, techstep, dnb and dubstep...oh dear. ;-)

VA - Black Sun Empire β€Ž-- Resident Magazine Promo Mix Vol. 8

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Kosheen is a good example of more or less for subgenre's and "tags"
They are a commercial band which inevitably means they are influenced by many but they do drum and bass
especially their first works

Check out Slip & Slide - Suicide
how to tag this pop because its commercial?,Breakbreat? or simple mark it as electronic ? but it is definitely dnb

Genres always overlap with time ...the more styles there are, the worse it gets but you need them to at least somewhat separate the stuff especially with electronic music

I have been listening for almost 25 years now and electronic music has always been in an uninterrupted evolution
even in the same genre/subgenre - its not like for example rap/hiphop where you can usually quickly sort out what it is
or where you can even hear what year it comes from

But I do not want to digress now and preach music evolution and stuff like that

First of all, keep in mind "tags" are rarely useful because people pave everything or generalize it.
Take Steamgames for example "Multiplayer"-tag absolutely not helpful...what is it?... 2 Players?4 Players?Coop?Online coop?
LAN? Online Server? MMO? or stuff like "short" So you know its short in comparison ...but how short?
"Tags" help but at the same time it does not really help you either

The same as you said at the last set how many different tags it has are they listed because of the content of the mix? or to make people aware of it? Would it be wrong to Tag a dnb remix of a popsong with the name or title of the artist or with the original genre?
check -> yes no maybe ^^

Not even the producers and artists can do it. I can not do it, either

But you can roughly define the main genre or the "main"subgenre. That's not so difficult if you hear more often
maybe first deal with other Genre or Styles of electronic music where its clear to recognize why something is so called
for example House music - its easy to hear and understandable why some tracks run under the genre Deep House, or Hardhouse etc.
because it makes sense very quickly why something is called "dark" "funk" or "tech" But that does not mean that everything can not blur with each other ^^
Find a few artists where you like something and stay with them for a while best would be stuff before 2010 after that, it just mixes up too much (or better pre 2000) because so many artists have not retained their style

and many things to check out ... some jazzy stuff for you E-Z Rollers or London Elektricity said that because of Charlie Parker ^^

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Thanks for this detailed answer! I don't understand a lot of jazz but I like the Charlie Parker quote as it points to what is most important to me. However I agree of course that subclassifications are important to find bearings and become more so as a genre tree matures and fans out. This is especially the case for me as, through the ineffable mystery of taste, there is a lot of electronic music I don't like - fundamentally I am much more at home with (particularly) psychedelia, prog rock and metal. But there are a number of electronic artists I do like a lot so being able to find more similar ones, based on subgenre names I could understand, would be a good thing.

I think your suggestion is what makes the most sense: find artists/albums identified as the birth of a subgenre and investigate to get the undiluted flavour. I do usually manage to pick up the "dark" vibe in DNB and indeed most of the DNB I like seems to be of that type. I do have a particular problem with "funk" though, and in both directions of the inclusion: on one hand I cannot see any shared ground between (e.g.) BSE and Bootsy Collins, Parliament or even Kool and the Gang, and on the other hand this (Superstars of Rock), which I was sure would be Neurofunk as soon as I first found out about the term, isn't.

Extreme metal has been through a comparable development over the last decades. But its subgenre titles seem easier to understand and also stop after the first crossover: for instance, black and death have led to some "blackened death" bands but after any further cross-fertilisation, an umbrella (one might say cop-out) term such as "post black", which indicates a more long-form description is necessary, is used. This is a naming scheme that runs out of additional possible permutations at deeper levels and so self-restricts: not what seems to happen in electronic music. But you have confirmed these are genuine labels and that is helpful information in itself so thanks!

And I like the London Elektricity, reminds me a bit, ambience wise, of the first Weather Report album, jazz rock before it turned shallow (always imo) in the mid seventies.

The Aphrodite's catchy as well. ;-)

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The Midnight - Shadows

Driving through towns at night with this playing in your car, arm out the window in the cool air.

Shadows downtown.... neon city...

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classic!

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