I like Orville the most when they don't try to be super funny. Second season was a lot better than the first in that regard imo. I love the old school Star Trek feeling, it's something Discovery is lacking completely. That's why I personally look forward to Orville season 3 the most, will have a look at the other shows as well though.
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The script and setting were solid on Orville, but Seth McFarlane's entirel concept of humor is based around low-grade, potty humor. Which isn't in and of itself too problematic (as we're not unfamiliar with shows or films with one or two annoying characters), but his humor not only forced the rest of the cast to regularly join in with him (sometimes in seeming deviation to their established character), but regularly detracted from the core plot flow as well.
Putting aside the subjectivity of humor aside, it simply never meshed well with the flow or style of the rest of Orville's presentation. In that, the trailer for Avenue 5 implies that its humor is a lot better integrated into the show (again, regardless of whether one appreciates the style or not).
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The Orville i say falls in the same rank as Family Guy and American Dad (Being all Seth after all), it's a certain type of humor you also like or not, sometimes a bit juvenile even. (And i still watch it) though it never makes me really laugh.
But hey there are people that like Modern Family (and find it funny) god knows why too, it's subjective or Friends, i can't find one laughable joke in it either, why was that so populair?
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I just have a really hard time with Seth MacFarlane, "the actor".
I'd go with "the bumbling, immature ego-trip", but I guess that's a bit vague, between the assortment we have in Hollywood and in politics (nevermind Captain Kirk, if we're sticking solely to the present genre). Alas.
But yeah, my own opinions aside, Seth is overwhelmingly the aspect of Orville I've seen criticized the most. Well, the rest of the show is appreciable, though. So it ends up being a "how far can you tolerate him". Or, perhaps, "how far can you tolerate him without breaks", as I can't manage watching more than a few episodes before taking a long break from Orville, to come back to it months later. :X
(Bright side, I guess that gives the show longevity. :P)
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Well, that trailer for Avenue 5 was a little cringey, like they're trying too hard. Is Hugh Laurie really that desperate for work?
The Vagrant Queen seems more campy, and kinda gives me the old Farscape -X- Dark Angel -X- Stargate vibes. I guess it seems a bit like Killjoys if I was to compare it to something more recent.
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i never thought "humorous version of The Poseidon Adventure set in space" would be a thing but hey, i'd be into seeing how the first few episodes go. Hugh Laurie has really good comedic timing so it's possible he could keep this kind of thing running for a while.
i''d be super into that Vagrant Queen thing tho, gimme gimme.
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Comments are turned off? I'm not sure if that bodes well for Vagrant Queen...
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First offcourse everyone's sense of humor is different, and many like either the british (monthy python, black adder) or american ones, there is a big difference in the two. There are occasional swear words f.e some find that funny, some don't.
Maybe the trailer doesn't represent it best, like Adam said could always try 1 episode, 20 minutes doesn't take much out of your life.
But now in these days with corona, anything that can give a little laugh might be welcome to some people.
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It's a weird comedy, it has lots of self-deprecation in it, and its base is "almost everyone is incompetent or deeply flawed, let's see what happens next". Its IMDB score of 6.3 is rightfully alarmingly "low" - most hit series are in the 8 points high. It's a niche piece: a somewhat realistic scenario that would happen when everyone is absurdly bad at their job (for a somewhat realistic reason, though).
I adore Matt's super helpful but slighty sociopath character as customer relations. Judd is the perfectly incompetent billionaire who kind of reminds me of a certain president in a way that he always thinks he's an expert in everything. And I pity poor Billie who kind of alone tries to keep the ship floating (and I really love her hair :D )
I can't wait S2, it's HBO GO's bomb comedy for me, along with Miracle Workers.
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Hmm, actually The Orviille looks a bit better, it just have more Star Trek flavor...after the great disappointment with ST: Discovery
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You are right, i loved it...not the real TNG style, but it was good..better than Enterprise and Discovery.
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It makes sense that it is made by the Veep creators. It seems like anti-comedy to me.
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It got Hugh Laurie in it.
It got "Neelix" from Star Trek Voyager in it.
It got a Jack Black sort of guy in it.
It's so much more funnier then The Orville.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zr3f-_Ft8
Haven't watched Vagrant Queen yet but that also looks like some old school sci-fi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EXdrNoLaAI
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