Do you find giveaways like this to be in the proper spirit of this site?
I find giveaways like this to be in the proper spirit of Christmas.
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Their game, their money, their giveaway.
As long as it follows the website's rules, they can do whatever they want.
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I voted yes. I figured you people could figure the implied meaning out.
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...implied? Beyond implying that you think giveaways made primarily to antagonise someone are in the proper spirit of the site, I'm not sure what else there is to 'get'.
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Making giveaways is the proper spirit of the site.
Policing people's intentions is not.
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Policing. Fun word, given nobody is trying to punish, force, or change giveaway behavior.
While the original comment from OP towards the giveaway dude was shortsighted and likely uncalled for (heavily tone and context dependent for anything constructive), this is to dispute the rebuttal, when paired up with what appears to be a taunting measure. Observing it for what it is isn't really policing.
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I may be calling it incorrectly, but by establishing that the guy is doing giveaways "the wrong way" (aka not being in accordance with what they believe is the website's spirit) creating a social stigma? Can you say that this is in no way punishing or attempting to change behavior?
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Not when you consider that the original challenge was from the giveaway maker, saying that the OP doesn't understand the spirit of the site. I think such a challenge is pointed enough that someone would respond.
Had it just been about the initial question/challenge towards the giveaway maker, I would have hands-down said that it was pretty inappropriate, but that depends almost entirely on tone/context. However if the OP is correct in their assertion that they made more giveaways with high CV requirement just to spite them, then that really is just an unabashed attempt at trolling, and this site is for giveaways, not taunts that happen to hold the shape of a giveaway. The spirit of the site was to offer up free stuff to strangers in a show of goodwill, and to get some in return (if you're lucky). I don't think any part of this includes hostility, teasing or bickering.
I just think it's a whole lot of fuss about nothing, really.
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So you wouldn't complain if the guy does lvl10 AAA giveaway but you're complaining because he's doing lvl10 bundle games?....hmmmmok
btw what is the proper spirit of this site and what isn't? i mean a giveaway is a giveaway no matter why he created it in the first place. If that's how he gets his kicks let him having his kick creating lvl 10 bundle GA.
I haven't seen a community who likes to report people so much or find BS reason to change rules than on this website.....
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First off, where did you even get the idea I'm looking to report this person? This is just a discussion.
Next, some new AAA game is something many to most likely don't have, some leftover bundle game is, so when your available pool is limited to twenty people, with only sixteen listed as active, it is a relevant consideration. Then especially given the descriptions he/she uses, this person is coming off as being arrogant, not giving. I mean to add more such giveaways just to provoke one user, taunts in said giveaways to over 99% of the population, and end up creating giveaways that receive no entries, or only just enough, how is that demonstrating a giving nature? If one were to want to limit the available pool to a select few, you could do group giveaways, like I see you've done
There is a sort of give, and gain aspect to the site, you giveaway games, you in turn increase your level, so you can unlock more giveaways to enter. The feeling in these more recent giveaways though is more of a I'm doing it just to annoy people type spirit. Would you start giveaways to annoy others?
There's the letter of the law, and the spirit of the law. There are various things people do which are technically legal, even if what they did may not be regarded as morally correct, and caused damage of some form to others. He/She is technically giving away games, but is it in the spirit of giving? That's what I'm asking here.
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So as I understand it, you violating the letter of the law ( calling out people ) is alright because you aren't violating the spirit of the law? Because as you said, you're not looking to report them.... you're just calling them out. I'm sorry... I meant having a discussion. Because you are definitely not the type of person who likes to annoy others in spirit. Would you start a thread to annoy someone else?
I thought people just gave away games here because they wanted to .... you know... give away games here. Some do it by creating private/group/whitelist game giveaways.... others by gating it with CV requirements or puzzles... and others give away soundtracks to games they've never given the base game away before. Does that make them bad people because in the eyes of social justice warriors they somehow managed to remain within the law but managed to break it's spirit as they interpret it?
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Calling out would require I actually name them, I didn't. It would also imply I regarded them as having broken some rule, I even stated they are technically doing a giveaway, and never said, or implied they broke any rules. As I said, that person proposed to me that I don't "understand the spirit of giveaways." That's why I worded things as I did, and took the question to the community.
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The top left corner of your screen, it looks like an arrow pointing left.
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You're in the wrong here. The giveaway creator has the right to set whatever contributor level he/she pleases. The quality of the game, the number of entries, etc. is irrelevant.
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And that has absolutely nothing to do with the point of the discussion. As I said to another above, "he/she is technically giving away games, but is it in the spirit of giving? That's what I'm asking here."
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People complain about people complaining about people complaining about them.
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I would like to complain about my complaints about complaining about complaints!
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yeah, i remember this guy. i don't have anything against putting high level requirements for giveaways whether for bundle games or not, but that guy seemed like trying to make people with low level (and i mean 0 to 9 with that) mad rather than sharing games. seems like they succeeded. :P
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He/She proposed to me that I don't "understand the spirit of giveaways." That's why I worded things as I did, and took the question to the community. As I said to another above, "he/she is technically giving away games, but is it in the spirit of giving? That's what I'm asking here." Based on the comments it doesn't look like many got that though, and are fixated on the technical definition of a giveaway, rather than the idea of it being in the spirit of doing a giveaway.
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People will always default to the memetic blame game shit, rather than actually try to mentally engage with the subject at hand.
Regardless, you fell for the bait, and now your antagoniser has hooked the community to do his trolling for him. There isn't really anything constructive that can come of this, especially given most people who get where you're coming from (or actually read the opening post and the context) would usually shrug and disregard the thread as a waste of time. I'm a special case, y'see. I'm not smart.
Still. :P
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I know, I mean this result didn't surprise me, and I'd rather have not even made this now, it just seemed like a good idea at the time. I've often been annoyed by the mentality of many that if anything is longer than a short sentence, or two, then they just can't be bothered to read, and understand it. Yet at the same time they want to voice their opinion, which is of course pointless as they never digested what it is they're commenting on.
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And I think this all comes down to the heart of the issue really.
What triggered all of this may have very well been a genuine question or confusion about their choice of giveaway/restrictions, but it was taken badly and led to the hand-wave rebuttal, which in turn led to this. This is of course assuming the best on both of your parts. Given how people tend to polish their side of the story, I can totally see either one of you being needlessly obnoxious and causing the fuss... buuuut that's neither here nor there.
It's facepalm-worthy how some people behave online, but if you take a moment to reflect and look at the title of the thread, in a sense you also got pulled into that same black hole of grumpus, y'know?
Right now I'm more worried that this is just needlessly hurting peoples opinion of you, when it really just looks like you were grouching about an impolite rebuttal (which they gave in response to a perceived impolite challenge). Probably better to lock or delete this whole mess and put it down to a learning experience, IMO. I mean, despite the responses you got, the vote scores are actually pretty middling, so it looks like a good number of people got where you were coming from, at least!
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It's his games, he should be able to give them away however he wants as long as it follows the rules.
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That is likely the whole point of those giveaways. To make them silly by setting easily available game with high requirements. People used to set several thousand contribution value requirements for Fortix giveaways - a game which costs one dollar. There is no need to get agitated for them. Let people have fun and skip such giveaways if they are not your thing.
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I'm not level 10 but I can see the reasoning. i own nearly 2500 games and as such I'm now a lot pickier about which bundles i decide to purchase as I have to balance the cost alongside the number of games I already own and how interested I am in the games I don't have. Whilst say $5 for 6 games might not be much if I already have 4 of the games I'm getting less value out of that bundle than someone who doesn't have any of the games.
I've previously been in giveaway groups that dealt specifically in bundle games and this allowed me abetter chance at grabbing games I'd missed without having to resort to trading which i personally have little interest in. I see these giveaways as just an alternative to those groups in allowing the high level contributors to have a decent chance in getting those bundle games they've missed due to bundles not meeting their personal value threshold.
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I like to touch you too, you're so fluffy and soft!
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I had a couple of friends with hamsters, but they all passed away within 2 years :(
Edit: The hamsters, not the friends.
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You still cannot reach those legs of yours? My dear hamster, you need more stretching.
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They bought the games, why are you mad it them for choosing to give it to whom they please? You don't control them.
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I now set the minimum level to all of my giveaways to level 2 to avoid bots from picking off my giveaways and to limit leechers.
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Save yer strength, lad! There's a whole field of giveaways for you to enter!
Not making giveaways is whats not in the spirit of the site.
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I dont really care.
I got level 1 , i enter level 1 GA's .
Im here cause i cannot afford buying alot of games , if i cared bout my contributor level i would be rich spoiled kid .
level 10 CV giveaways ? couldnt care less ... let the spoiled kids have fun with those ... i cannot afford to throw game away or free .
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well there is a Deleated comment you cannot read ... that made me say that :)
Im not saying that everyone who gives stuff away is a kid , but yeah there is a nice portion of kids whos parents can afford that and they just throw stuff @ random people for E-Attention .... thats kinda related to the deleted comment tho .
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but still you'd profit from them, so I don't see the point of talking about them in such a negative way :I
And why should it bother you if they (kid or adult) can afford to giveaway games :I
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im not really sure why are you even replying to me , i was talking with someone else , then he lost his argument , deleted his post ... and now you come in and defend ... Nothing ?
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It's just a legit question, you're acting all defensive. I don't see the point in making fun of contributors (or some of them) claiming they are rich spoiled kids that do it for E-Attention. :I
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The so called fun , was based on the ones who actually care / brag on their contrubutor level ...
Yeah you have more money then someone else , cool story brate-chan ... good for you . Yet you are still on that corner of the internet where people try to get games for free . thats my point.
I apriciate the people who give stuff away asking nothing in return , and i was really thankfull to the people i won stuff from , you can ask them for sure :)
But i h8 everyone and his family for braing how Generous they are , you are generous ? cool ... keep it to yourself , dont use it to brag on the internet .
The whole fucking point of that topic was to point out how ridiculous is to make GA's on a bundle game that is worth less then a $ and ask for a CV of level 10 ( which is what ? 1k $ + on GA stuff ? ) , and the people even dare talk bout the complains on the GA's they make ...
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and that does hurt you in any way? Are you just mad that you can't join that particular level restricted giveaway? People can set whatever level they want on their giveaway, even for shit and giggles. To me people who complain about this silly stuff just sound"butthurt" 'cause they can't join a giveaway for a game they want, even if they make fun of it for being only a bundle game.
Just relax, there are way bigger problems in life. :)
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i mean , i still question your reasoning to enter my discussion with a guy who clearly had no arguments to cover his statement and even resotrted to the last resort of deleting his post ...
I give close to 0 fucks bout the people i calld Spoiled kids , cause thats what i think about them.
Everyone has a right of opinion , welcome to the internet .
As for the relax part , i need you need to chill , and not but in in other peoples discussion .
Peace , have a nice day .
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Yeah some people can afford stuff , and live their life spoiled since birth , i dont ... end of story .
For me throwing stuff for free like that is ridiculous , and yeah i Profit with the 3 GA's i won out of thousands i entered from them.
Cool for me right ?
Have a nice day .
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oh well, I'd have more luck reasoning with a wall, have fun.
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I mean , i dont see any reason coming from you.
You dont even bother read what i say , just spill nonsense ... im not saying all ppl who throw ppl away for free are spoiled kids , why would i.
I just sayd there is that portion of people who are , and i absolutely despise them .
But then again , i'd have more luck reasoning with a wall , Have a nice day.
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I'm a L8 contributor, still don't buy every bundle.
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People have a silly assumption that gifting a lot makes one really, really rich or that they are people who own everything on Steam. Gifting a lot does not describe accurately one's wealth, merely his/her generosity.
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Indeed. I'm unemployed.
Honestly, I'm not sure how I have so many games.
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Sales. Crap load of sales. Welcome to the digital world where so many things can cost next to nothing.
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Or buying a bundle just for a discount on that one game you actually want, and the rest of the games sorta come along with it.
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Luckily I grew quickly out of that habit and dispensed non-desired games elsewhere. Would have my library size tripled by now otherwise. The pain of backlog would be severe.
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If people want to set high level requirements on giveaways, that's generally fine, although after a point it can become kinda stupid. Recently someone has gotten their gollies out of making level ten requirement giveaways for common bundle games which in one, they received three entries, for a three copy giveaway, so everyone that entered won. He/she then made three more telling me it was done just for me since I found the prior one rather silly, especially considering how it turned out. Two out of three of the new giveaways ended with zero entries.
Right in the descriptions of these giveaways, he/she says things like "awaits the contributor level complaints," or the title of this thread. He then tells me how I don't understand what giveaways are, but when he seems to start them to goad people into responding angrily, and limits the available entry pool so significantly, it just doesn't really come off as giveaways started in the proper spirit of a giveaway, or this site to me. If these were giveaways for some new AAA game, or what not then sure, that'd make sense, but for what he/she even describes as "shitty bundle games" with the kind of descriptions he/she uses, it just doesn't make sense to me. What do the rest of you think?
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