So returned my other mouse (G603) which started to give the scroll issue after a few weeks, and took a gamble with another logitech mouse, but all brands could result in getting something.
It does look really basic on the outside but i don't really need all the extra buttons, and it's small and light, but i got small hands.
Here is to really hoping this will stay good for some years.

https://www.alternate.nl/Logitech/G-PRO-Wireless-Gaming-mouse/html/product/1474701
And for those saying chair i already got https://akracingeurope.eu/product/akracing-nitro-gaming-chair-red/ (bought it for 100 cheaper then that i think), my whole setup is on my steam profile.

https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/A3Xby/yesterday-origins

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A pro mouse only makes you a 1/4 pro gamer.
You need the pro keyboard, pro seat and pro monitor as well.

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Gaming Chair: AK Racing Nitro Gaming Red
Keyboard: Logi G513 CarbonMechanical RGB Tactle US

Think will suffice.for 3/4th. ;) Monitor yeah can do better, think i got a 24 inch (yet a 2080TI card) but not have a rush with it, also want VR but need to start saving (was already planning this month but then i got a mini arcade cabinet with raspberry in between).

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If your 24 inch is only full HD then for sure the 2080ti is overkill unless it's a 240hz. The sweet spot would be an IPS screen with QHD resolution (1440p) at 144hz or more. Or a 240hz TN if you're into FPS games.

If that's the case i'd skip the VR stuff for now and splash the money on the monitor, you'd benefit more for your gaming experience. Just my 2cents.

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But each monitor type that got their own issues, like ghosting, bleeding, dead pixels etc etc, i would want a really big one, and wouldn't mind paying 2000 for one, but when some got fans and they use very cheap (and noisy) fans.

And how big is not too big. And do you go curved or not? There are just so many options.

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Yep you're right, we're still stuck with many issues no matter what type of panel you chose. Basically you have to pick your poison until MicroLED is available for the customer, which isn't coming anytime soon.

Personally i'd go this way :

• TN : Get this if you're on a budget. Also if you're really into competitive FPS gaming (any fast paced games tbh), this is the fastest type of screen. Any other scenarios you should probably avoid it.

• VA : Recommended for movies and videos content in general. Avoid if for fast screen actions, slowest type of screen.

• IPS : At the moment it might be the sweetest spot as far as gaming monitors go. Best colors and viewing angles. Some monitors are really fast but still not as fast as TN in general.

OLED never became a thing on PC because of burn-in issues. You can game on it if you know what you're doing like deactivating HUB in games and stuff like that and also you vary your content every few hours. If you're the type of players who plays for hours on end i'd just avoid it. It's really frustrating because without this issue it's close to the perfect technology.

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If i didn't stick to a budget on my whole pc i shouldn't stick to a budget for a monitor. ;)
But i need to start working on my own place and save for furniture and stuff, and i am mostly an indie game player (and TF2 but you don't need a big monitor for that) doesn't mean i can't enjoy a game of Call of Duty or Final Fantasy 15 rather have that looking good, but am i a CS:GO competitive player? No.

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Ah gotcha. You must have other demanding utility with your GPU outside of gaming because for those games a 2080ti is clearly overkill especially on low resolution :)

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Uhm nope, just being future proof, and i got 8500 games, i am sure some put it to good use.

How about?https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/bap5mf/is_the_lg_38gl950gb_really_worth_waiting_for/
Or good alternatives that are 34+inch plus, and don't have fans.

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Yeah the LG seems really good on paper but it's not available yet if i'm not mistaken. I was really close to get an Ultrawide myself and i had this one in my radar. For those expensive IPS monitors just be sure to buy it from a store with good return policy, ideally Amazon. Because unfortunately the lottery is strong on this technology and i see many people sending their unit back to replacement until they get one without too much bleeding. It's a pain in the ass to pay this much and not get a flawless product but it is what it is.

This monitor seems to only lack HDR, as of right now HDR seems kinda medicore on PC because of issues with windows and not much games supporting it, however it's a future proof feature. It's up to you to see if you care about it.

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It has been delayed for 6-9 months now, some stores you can already preorder but there is no set date yet, one store says november to january).

We only have amazon for ebooks and music, and creditcards aren't a thing here, so many can't pay with it, many physical shops closing because some mail order ones getting so big and people just buy from there as it's easy which does mean less physical shops that are closer by. Some things i just wouldn't trust on our postal services especially when it cost a bunch.

And that's the same thing with mice, how they could still make a profit with all these returns? (and logitech if you buy from them directly, you can keep your old mouse and they would even send you a new one).

I also read something about G sync Ultimate but like with a new graphics card you can keep waiting and waiting on whatever next they could up with, while you want something now. :p
The LG look nice but yeah it's gonna cost a bunch.

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You can't buy from Amazon UK/FR/GER and ship it to NL (i'm guessing you are from there) ? But yeah that wouldn't be optimal for something like a monitor anyway.

Yeah many physical shops died because of the online stuff, i lost my job some years ago when i worked for a huge multimedia store and they went bankrupt because of it, so i know the feels. :s

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Still the creditcard thing, since they refuse PayPal, and suppose you get a bad one you also have to return it all the way back, and the further it has to go the more problems in between could arise with it, then take in account it happening several times.

For that price would be 4 months savings anyway, i am doing some work experience thing, but i don't have a steady date on when to get a paid job (depends on luck again too) or keep hoping on the lottery.

Hope you found something else, and which is nice. ;)

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Oh man that sucks, i didn't know that. I thought for a country like NL there won't be too much trouble to get stuff from there. Oh well. At least you have some alternatives, i've been in some other countries and their choices were almost non-existent.

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AFAIK, Gsync Ultimate isn't really a new thing, it just means that monitor labeled as Ultimate are HDR 1000 ready which means proper HDR. There's a few others gains with it but basically it's just their premium offer and a marketing name.

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Well new to me as in never heard of it before.

Saw a 60+ inch with ultimate but was VA and did bad for gaming offcourse.

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It must be those huge 65 inch monitors from Asus, Acer and HP. There is a list here

Prepare to sell a kidney for these :D

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Was a hp omen, didn't knew there were so many.

I already got glasses probably because of so much gaming, i think i'd become blind as a bat with such a big one. :p
There are discussions on how about one person could actually see at a time vision wise, plus how would you windows look like and other stuff, i am afraid it can also be too big.

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I forgot illuminated fans. They provide a +20% pro boost.

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A pro gamer also needs a pro gamer energy drink, isn't it?
Helps with the thermal throttle of the body

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Don't forget a pro headset with a pro mic.

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Dont forget RGB.

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Don't forget... special games for pro gaming.

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I switched from a Razer Abysuss Mirror to a G400 recently - can confirm it doesn't make me better at games and the mouse buttons can get in the way at times.

But am pro now so it don't matter :3

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Since most would have some on the sides, you mean the ones in the center? Yeah doesn't look comfy.

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Both - the old one had no buttons basically.

Which reminds me that I actually temporarily used a Logitech M185 which is tiny - which probably explains why I'm trying to hold towards the top of the side of the mouse.

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Lol...I hate the M185. I purposely got a M560 (now dying) because it was big, hoping my hand wouldn't cramp up, unlike with said M185.

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Nah. Real pros use wires.

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You can wire them if wanted, it's optional.

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But not just any wires, only PRO wires will do!

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$100 Monster USB cable from Best Buy?

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I been playing for about 35 years, and got on TF2 alone 5000+ hours. :P

Thank you.

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a decent mouse with at least a PWM 3310 sensor is needed not just for gaming but for fluid desktop works too

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I don't think that's how it works, pretty sure you need your whole setup to be RGB enough to prevent darkness from happening within the room.
As far as mice goes the main advantages I find about the "gamer" variety are being big enough for my whole hand to rest on them, the dpi button, and the ability to program one of the side buttons as F5 (makes internet dwelling so much easier).

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Obviously no, you also need a gaming chair and gaming hands

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That’s part of the pro gamer set you also need gaming headphones and a gaming chair

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I'm not familiar with the language but why does this mouse cost 110 euro?
I use the cheapest mouse available and I never really had a problem with them. If you know what you are doing thats good enough for anyone.
I have the one on the picture, cost me like 6 euro. Recommend it

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DPI
Long battery use
RGB
Sensor
Being Logitech

They aren't bad, but once you got used to something more expensive you will feel the differences, now whenever i use my dad's pc i see and feel how slow such a mouse is.

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I'm not a tech man, not sure what those mean. Also Logitech always striked me as the cheap mouse company, I had a little blue one of their mouse a few years ago for less than 10 euro.
I'm going to sound like a caveman here, but I dont think mouses should use battery at all. And RGB mean coloured leds around the mouse? Thats useless too especially if you using battery.
Also for the slow mouse issue. Cant you change the speed of the mouse in the controls of the computer (control panel?) so it can move faster

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You DON'T change mouse speed slider in control panel, that is a big no-no overall, and especially for gaming.

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For once the high pricetag is kinda justified.

This mouse is actually the best in class. It's lightweight, the shape has been built with a lot of thoughts, the battery is the best on the market and optionally you can buy a mousepad that charges it as long as your mouse stay on it (so basically you never have to worry about charging).

Wireless mice have come a long way, nowadays if you get one of the flagships on the market it's just as good as a wired one.

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I have THE worst experience with Trust mouses and will never buy them again!

I had 2 gaming mouse/mice from Trust and with both the rubbers on the side came lose, scroll wheel became handicapped.
They are just not up for their job (or my usage ;-p)

I am a fan of Logitech too and hope to buy a new one soon for my laptop.

But never ever again will a buy a Trust mouse, in my experience it's garbage!

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You don't need skill if you have pro-gaming mouse that support macros.
Here - I saved this dude from quake champions forum. We have to learn from the best after all!

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Obviously it won't make you pro, but it will help to have the right tool for the job. If you are playing a competitive shooter, you want a mouse with no prediction, high enough tracking speed, and no negative acceleration. A high refresh rate and low latency monitor is also important. For most other games, it's not as important.

I don't play Counter Strike much anymore, but I was addicted for many years. I still use a CRT monitor and an old Microsoft WMO mouse. Most modern gaming mice should be fine now though because they are designed for gaming.

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4000/6000/8000/16000 DPI. lul
https://csgopedia.com/players/s1mple/
400 DPI for 1st HLTV place
All hi-lvl players are media personalities, they just play on sponsorship devices.

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No one chose a mouse based on DPI (it's just marketing BS), at least i hope not lol.

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Believe me, many people buy for DPI/RGB.
Manufacturers have already earned money on gamers, its the turn of designers.
For ex: "z390 gaming" ->>> "z390 designare" ("creator"), 275r ->>> iCUE

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Great tools still won't make you a good mechanic.

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Not really, although a decent mouse helps to keep your reticule movement predictable and not jerk every time you press the trigger. Logitech also surprisingly backs its claim of next to no latency over wired mice. Most other wireless mice cannot do the same.

Although if you do have a small hand, then the G Pro is not for you. Get an MX Anywhere or even better, a Glorious Model O-. The G Pro is for people like me, who even finds the MX Master 2S too small for my taste.

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Well i find i have small hands, but i don't have a child's hand either, i am comfortable with the g pro feel, it feels like the g603 (which felt heavy on first use and you can take out a battery with that one) but you got used to it, with the g pro it feels good right away.

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simple -----> no
and if you need to ask this you will never be a "pro" gamer because you lack of the most important....

intelligence.... common sense.....

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Or you don't understand sarcasm, a joke, etc..

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This is the internet. Only use jokes and sarcasm at your own risk.

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Everything from Logitech I ever bought broke within a year after purchase. This includes mouses, keyboards, Speakers, headphones, controller. Imo the more expensive gear lasts longer even if you're as clumsy as me and spill coffee etc.

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I can confirm that (3 MX mouses and many-many kb's broken).
Except k310 and m235 - they 5yo and feels good :)

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Yes

Yellow sun can give you superpowers too, just land on it.

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no you need gamer chair first

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To be a true pro you must be blessed by the Doritos pope!

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It will if you learn how to use it...
But honestly, all Pro-gamers start out with what they have and tweak to improve. So a pro mouse will make you better...if you're already good.

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I bought a Wusthof Classic Ikon Santoku two weeks ago.
Michelin just called, they want to award me 3 stars for my grilled cheese sandwich...cut diagonally of course...

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