It is exploitable and it was pointed out along with a few other flaws on the first day. I do not think that has been handled yet, other than the general statement that they will be looking out for people exploiting the policy.
Refunds discussion: http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/618463446166409587/
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Refunding isn't an automated process, so abusing it would lead to Steam revoking your ability to refund.
http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds
ctrl+f "abuse"
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I assume they'll stop giving you refunds if you abuse this.
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They'll of course check if you have received the card drops or not and may act accordingly.
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No way to exploit it as they will remove your right for refunds so i suppose you could exploit it a few times,but is it really worth it.
But no you should keep your cards,but i would only ask for refunds if you really had issues with the game,but still your choice since it can be for any reason.I just think you should save them for serious matters,not just because you did not like that game,as they are not to clear on how they handle abuse and what will trigger it,or how many in a given time.
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PsyKo said
Then do it third time and that will be your last refund, ever. Even if you buy game that will give people cancer.
So I was continuing him by saying that if you get locked from refunds, you won't be able to refund if you bought it for too much before a sale.
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I wonder how they check if it's the real playtime with the game. As far as I remember when you enter a game and alter the clock of your computer the playtime changes according to this meaning you can alter your playtime (not sure if this holds anymore though).
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The best thing with refunds is not that you can get your money back. If the rules are similar to Appstore and Google Play (I can't see the reason way Valve will make something deferent), then all developer that scam people will be in big trouble :) Apple and Goggle gets their cut of the price in the moment of pay transaction... but if there is a refund after this (actualy they can return it in some conditions, but only first minutes after payment), the developer must return full price... so if there is a lot of refunds he will pay more money that gets... and this means no more scam or totaly broken games in the market :)
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I don't think it works that way. The publisher doesn't immediately get their cut from each sale, so they don't have to return money with each refund.
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It's the same in Apple's Appstore and Google Play. In example you sell 10 games for 10 euro each anf this makes 100 euro, online market gets 30% and there if 70 for you. But 3 people gets refund, so you need to return 30 euro and this means that you get only 40 euro on "payday"... but if there is more then 2/3 refunds you start to own money to online market.
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I'd say they are a bit better than Apple and Google, yes. I also don't understand how this idiotic, unfair refund policy is accepted by anyone.
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Also, I found this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/05/16/google-quietly-implemented-automated-refunds-apps-15-minute-window/
It's from one year ago, so I'm not sure if it's stil 100% accurate, but the basic idea is in the first 48 hours after purchase, the refunded sale is lost for the developer (I still don't think they have to retun Google's slice which they never got to begin with); after 48 hours Google pays refunds out of its pockets and the developer gets to keep the money.
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Maybe. It's more likely that it just doesn't work that way.
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Maybe they'll have a janitor bot to collect cards dropped by refunded games. A bit like the Trashbot: http://steamcommunity.com/id/trashbot
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i see them at some point in the future to not allow card drops til after the 2 hour window has passed to prevent anyone from exploting this. It would be good for valve and the game makers you have to play the game more than 2 hours to get any cards from it and valve does not have to worry about anyone abusing refunds to get more cards. Also will keep people from just getting games to farm cards cause it will take a lot more time I would say normally at least double game time to get your cards from the game. It will make cards worth more and valve will make more off each card sold in the market.
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If you play a game for about an hour to get all it's cards, you sell the cards, then refund the game, do you lose the money you earned for cards? Even if you don't sell the cards, do you lose the cards themselves? This seems exploitable.
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