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Interesting?

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Was interesting..

1 decade ago
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i would say steam will find a way to go around it.

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Game download services will just change their EULAs, so no, this is not interesting at all.

People make a much bigger deal about things than they actually are because they don't take the time to actually understand what's going on.

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For everyone without a legal education;

You can’t just add any terms you like to a contract, various pieces of legislation prohibit, for example limiting liability for serious injury. Freedom of contract is limited, especially for consumers, to prevent large companies from bullying them into giving up their rights.

Also, what you call something in a contract is irrelevant, the courts will always try to determine what it actually is, not just what you say it is. Hence calling something a “subscription” when you are granted rights in perpetuity for a one time payment, is irrelevant. A sale is a sale.

The only way around this would be to only sell games as a “real” subscription service, i.e. you rent access to the games, and if you stop paying then your rights of access eventually expire.

Also the ridiculous get-outs of charging £40 for the first payment and then a penny a year after that “subscription charge” will never fly either, the courts want the spirit of the law obeyed as well as the letter.

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+1
law trumps EULAs, so companies changing them will do nothing

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Oracle's contract states the license is unlimited but Steam's isn't. They could charge you a license transfer fee. They could ban your account for any other 'unspecified' reason. While they might not be legal you can bet Valve would spend 5 years in court & lots of appeals arguing their case. Dont assume an EU ruling will affect a US company. If Valve/Steam dont have assets/offices (the steam store is all on US servers) in the EU then what can really be done to them?

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+1

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People also go on forums and make douchey statements. Questioning things is healthy, I just wanted to see what others thought. Thanks

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This makes me feel a bit more secure as a customer but i doubt itl change anything for me on the short term. The only benefit i can see in the long term for me is that even if valve goes belly up i still have the right to my games. right?

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doubt if. they will take your games to the grave. You may own the games but they own your account which they are tied to.

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Awesome, thanks for sharing. This bodes well.

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already posted :P

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^this

but i couldn't read that, thx!

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just pointing it out, still good that you posted it, since everyone who's commented so far doesn't seem to have seen it yet :)

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Well the other topic was locked for no reason, what's that all about?

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Hmmm very interesting.....Better start actually doing research on this now....

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Closed 1 decade ago by Ozz.