I was wondering everyone's opinions on the United States of America. I'm pretty upset at the current presidential candidates, They're both just a bunch of jokes. But that's not why I'm here what are your guys opinions! (sorry about no giveaway at the moment)

[totally ready for the flames and blacklists coming my way.]

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How do you feel about the United States.

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Love it!
Like it!
Tolerate it!
Hate it!

How do you view the United States

AFAIK the only way to view it all at once is from space. :P

I was wondering everyone's opinions on the United States of America.

It's a place. but if you mean what do I think about the election, I try not to.

They're both just a bunch of jokes.

aren't they always?

totally ready for the flames and blacklists coming my way

it's the nature that comes with posting anything.

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*literal turd
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ah, this thread will develop nicely.

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I view them as a bunch of stupid people. The two most unfavorable candidates in history. How did they even get there?

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Because a majority of the populace is content to live inside their tiny bubble.

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Isn't your President being accused of embezzlement of government funds and she's claiming she's the victim of a coup?

Has there not been civil unrest across Brazil the last couple of years?

Kind of the pot calling the kettle black, no?

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The discussion is not about Brazil.

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"Reality Is What You Can Get Away With" -
fascinated and entertained by the mix of it.

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With my eyes.

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This whole topic is a disgrace. First you make such a vague question without trying to specify on any field (but you mention the obvious political topic). Then you put 4 dull options that provide absolutely no information or discussion. GG m9

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What's USA though? The place? The people there? The politicians? View what exactly? That's what I'm not understanding. In general, I tolerate it. It has things that I like and things that I dislike. By the way, the politicians are always a joke!

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seems legit

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This is golden man

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Well, since the country itself doesn't do anything, I can live with it. Scnr.

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I wish elections were over so we can continue with life, and no dozens of such topics.

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I used to absolutely hate it to the point that i would just nuke it for the betterment of the world if i had the chance to, but it's slowly getting better population wise. Though you still got heap loads of stupid people that live on fear and thus are so easily swayed to hate on a group of people.

Your candidates are of course both terrible, but god help us if the orange monkey wins. Would have loved to see Bernie enter the White House.

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I just want the elections to be over with. I don't even care anymore, both candidates are horrible. One is just much worse than the other. If everyone hadn't slept on Bernie we wouldn't be going through this.

The US in general is fine, I guess. If you compare it to most other countries, the US is a great place to live. But like every country there's a lot of shitty stuff going on too.

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I view it out my window. :X

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For the record, I am from the USA, and yes, USA has been washed up since the 80s (actually since 1912 or so, when the Federal Reserve was created). The answer to your question is: USA is a joke. It's gotten worse and worse with more censorship and rules, higher cost of living due to huge inflation, and no care for the lower class of the society. The capitalism model here is in complete conflict with basic economics, since the more money some rich person has here, the more interest they make from banks, which is put as debts on poor people that have trouble paying it off and incur higher and higher penalties while the rich person rakes it in for doing nothing, since the the poor have to pay more for getting less when it should work the opposite. There is no equal distribution here, or any incentive for somebody hoarding away loads of money to buy things and free it up so that the rest of the people can use it, so the economy stagnates with the current fail model here. This causes many families to have two working parents, and dysfunction starts to grow exponentially with each generation as abuses are passed down, and kids are not nurtured properly, but many are day-cared in these schools, and they learn bad things instead of good, since there are so many dysfunctional kids all together in these areas that people are forced to congregate in at a young age, leading to the spread of more corrupt thinking between person to person. The nurturing loving environment is almost non-existent for many of these kids at the prime of their life when they need this the most.

There are other things like black hole projects, wasteful spending in various projects, like military escapades when we should focus on our own problems (again that is because if we go to other places, they have to pay us to help them again, at interest!!), then there is this "debt" here that could easily be paid ten times over by maybe the top 1% in this country if we created new laws to make those with more money have more responsibility, since money is power in the US... A huge part is non-profit organizations which I will not mention, but religion plays into it making more money than you could imagine not using hardly any of it to improve things, the reluctance to change to green sources and continued waste because of the monopolization and control of the economy by big business, the fake war on drugs, where the US plays both sides, paying to pipeline drugs into the country, then arresting people for possessing them, profiting off of non-violent crime (more than half in prisons are non-violent, more than half of the world's incarcerations are in the US, but we have only about 5% of the world's population). The privatization of militia groups, and funding of terrorists and the supposed... "war on terror" to create this imaginary scheme here and abroad to create a cycle of fear that makes billions - psychological warfare used on Americans, and their complete ignorance, denial, or naivety to see the facts, and just believe what they are told - and all the propaganda funneled through the press, news, television, etc. cause me to realize that most of my fellow people here are either complete idiots, or they are powerless to stop the subversive machine that has taken hold here even though they see it clearly. Most of it takes root earlier in the way we are schooled, since it is not about accelerated learning, but mediocre "all-around" crap, so you can never fully thrive on what your true talents are as a child, and nurture and grow those. There are also at play the sham Universities that are simply pyramid schemes to get these big schools rich quick, while they teach people to think certain ways with subliminal messages and actions, and learning things a certain way to prepare them to be like cattle in the grooming process for the world ahead in America.

The big pharma here is terrible too. Medicine is much more expensive than anywhere else in the world, and there is a lot of discrimination based on what insurance one can afford. Many doctors have become "legal drug dealers", and will only sell to the ones that can pay their prices. They will also get kickbacks from drug companies for pushing their products, so they medicate people with things they do not need, furthering the dilemma in the US. Everyone else can just suffer or die if they cannot pay up. Insurances getting in the way of peoples' treatment as well, and causing doctors to not be able to practice (the ones that actually are in the job for the right reasons...). Doctors in it for money don't have to go out of their way, and are complacent here. They are not paid based on how well they do, so why even bother going the extra mile (goes back to the nurturing and having little to no integrity)? There is no oversight or QC here to make sure they are at the highest level of professionalism, so they get away with murder in many cases, literally, since they are protected by many of the papers you have to sign waiving rights you have, and allowing doctors to be completely transparent and untouchable if they screw you over, or decide not to treat you adequately. Quack-Quack

Elections do not matter. Big business is behind it all here. For people who run for office, it is like ebay - the ones that generate the most money are the ones that you will get to vote for. Simple as that. Nothing else to it. Not based on their track records, or anything good they did. Only about money and how much was raised. We are in the billions now for these campaigns for president, and it's just silly!

People get caught up in Democrat/Republican issues, but it's all run by the same people, and that's why nothing ever gets done here. If they got things done, they would be out of jobs because most of the problems we face would be diminished to such a degree that other entities could handle them independently and efficienty without help from all these extra people wasting space getting paid for doing literally nothing in governmental spots of authority.

Think I'm wrong? For the love of all that is holy, look at the record: When there is a Democrat controlled presidency/house/senate ... nothing changes! When there is a Republican controlled presidency/house/senate ... What's that? Oh yeah! Nothing gets done... EVER!

I laugh at people that say, "Oh, when the Republicans get control again, all these things are going to change." Do they have alzheimers or something? Seriously... Don't they know that it's already been that way many many times, and it did not do any good? Same with Democrats. Anyway, it is like it is because the big corporations, which really run things here, want it that way. We need these problems to generate lots of money for those rich people who are leeching all the money out of the economy so it doesn't fluctuate and get used by others. That is the crux of the problem. I hear a lot of talk about how welfare causes all the problems in the economy (by the way about 1 - 2% of the ENTIRE BUDGET GOES TO WELFARE and over 50% to MILITARY). Wrong! Poor people will use their money because they have to do so, and it will circulate back into the economy. Rich people got very rich because they save cough hoard it all, and there is no incentive to do otherwise... so it tanks the economy. Economics 101 - but most people here are dumb, and don't see the elephants in the room, because there is a lot of misdirection and sleight of hand tactics to keep people from seeing what is really going on by making them focus on stupid pointless things like elections, for instance, the news, or their favorite TV show to create pacification so they will not ever rise up and try to re-establish the original system.

If anyone takes a moment and reads The Declaration of Independence, or perhaps even further, The Constitution, they will see it is not part of the system we run here anymore. We are not a democracy or a republic. We are now what is called a Plutocratic Oligarchy. It basically means the few at the top have all the wealth and power and so they make all the choices to define the country, and nobody has voices anymore. You votes don't matter! Big business controls both candidates... It's all the same.

All my opinion, but it seems to mesh with reality as I see it, so there you go.

tl:dr - We are a country that profits off the suffering and misery of others. Candidates are run by the same corporations, so voting is pointless.

And now to add my own personal avatar reference... "America is like a mushroom. It likes to grow on poop."

One day, people will wake up.... I'll be waiting.

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+uno

I also find it entertaining when fellow Americans like to compare the USA with the Roman Empire. When truthfully, the country has only existed for about 1/5 of the Empire's lifespan. Sure, they both like to hit things a lot, but that's where the similarities end. Most Americans take our political/economic situation for granted, and not as the barely tested experiment that it truly is.

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there are many nice people here living in the usa. but to be honest: i´m glad to not live there.
maybe i have seen too many news about police shooting at unarmed kids and other people

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Those poll statistics are a bit scary

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Well, whatever anyone's individual opinion of Obama, he has done WONDERS for America's international credibility. He had managed to drag general international opinion from the absolute depths during the George Dubya years, to probably the highest level since JFK.

And then this staggering mess of an election season... The fact that Trump was even considered a credible candidate was such a shock, and the unparalleled, unmitigated vileness of the whole campaign that has chaotically whirled around him since then like a hurricane of faeces... And so all the old stereotypes have resurged in people's minds, and all the old prejudices seem relevant once more.

And, yanno, the poll didn't include any "potato" option, which is just asking for trouble.

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Yeah... the national debt shrunk a huge amount, from what I can tell, and exports increased, as well as jobs. Many good numbers supposedly went up, and bad ones went down. Can't argue with numbers, if they are real numbers, but... how do you know if they are really real numbers? Where do these things come from?

I searched Obama lowering debt, and I found:
Bush Jr. handed Obama a $1.4 trillion deficit. Obama has reduced Bush Jr.'s deficit to just $492 billion.

I searched Obama raising debt, and I found:
Just six years ago when President Obama took office, total debt stood at $10.6 trillion, which means it now has increased by almost $8 trillion—roughly 70 percent—during his tenure as president.

lol... I guess it's both! I'm guessing democrats are in control of the media that I found the first one from, and republicans from the other....

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also he spawned the extra special 'Thanks Obama' Meme

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Please don't be one of those people that thinks both candidates are just as bad, it's not even remotely close. That orange twat is a whole special kind of awful.

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As a Canadian; don't know. Don't really care. What's done is done, I prefer to tolerate a country rather than judge it or have an opinion of it.
Talking about America's state on an electoral level, contrary to most people, I don't believe that the POTUS can and will affect the country all that much. Every election is the same, people freak out about how the POTUS will cause a disaster, then nothing special really happens.

Something big CAN happen, don't get me wrong; but chances are it won't. My thoughts are that the people of a country affect it more than the POTUS themselves.

Note: That is only an opinion from someone who knows nothing and doesn't care much for politics at all. I may be talking out of my ass, so don't be offended by my lack of knowledge on the matter. :P

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