Hey guys,

Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a mad discussion. The objective is just to raise awareness. Please keep the negativity to yourself.
If we all change a little, the world would be so much better.

Unfortunately not everybody thinks about what goes on with the environment behind the scenes. Our behaviours, including the choices we make can be disruptive or worse destructive to something else (it/they). I believe most don’t think or understand the consequences that their decisions or purchases in life has on the planet and other species.

While growing up I made the same choices as everybody else, regardless of what they implied. Part of it was culture, or family traditions, which does make your opinions very narrow.
I’ve always been a person that identified with nature, although I was never much of an outdoor person. Even then I thought I was doing enough. Sadly it couldn’t be further from the truth.

You’ve probably heard recently on how the Amazonian forest is on fire. This is critical. I am frustrated because, the news only went public after 3 weeks of it happening and still going. Covering it, or in fact ignoring it is not the solution. You’ve got to understand that what is destroyed won’t grow back. Entire species of plants and animals are at risk. This one is tied to deforestation due to all the meat consumption around the world. Absurd amounts of animals are killed everyday to support our addictions. To grow more and more. To put into perspective, If your pet, dog or cat would be treated or killed like many animals do every single day, you would be happy with that? It is ok to kill cows or pigs, but not your property right? Finding mothers losing their sons every day is such a sad thought.

This is not the only issue by all means. A grave issue has been happening with the coral reefs. We lost 40% of it already, FOREVER! For those of you who don't know, these are critical for all ocean life. Ultimately if affects us too, of course.
At least with this problem now, it could be an opportunity to once again bring awareness to the people. Remember, the power is within the people, not the business, not the politics!
If you think you don’t need nature or it is not important to you, well then you are a selfish human. Perhaps you will understand one day!
Unfortunately a big culprit is the greediness of these companies that think having more profit is more important than the environment. Since when did we come to that? Are they telling me that money (which is a virtual thing), is more important than survival? Why would money matter if we are all sick or dead?

Loving animals, also means being more responsible, to what makes them happy and grow. It is their environment too. They must not feel, that we are intruders. Nature is precious to all!
To those that appreciate forests, or the ocean, this is probably a direct message to you, as you understand the implications.
Nature gives, without asking anything in return. Sure, we all use resources from earth, but we must respect it!
Furthermore, entire species are in constant danger of being extinct all the time. 99% of the currently threatened species are at risk due to human activities, unlike unpredicted past events, that caused mass extinctions. The impact is unknown, but certainly devastating. Each animal plays a role in the ecosystem and consequently the food chain (which we are a part of).

More than 3 years ago I’ve made a pretty big change in my life. It started with my diet. Reducing all the meat and fish... and eventually becoming vegan. Everything else made much more sense. My health is better than ever, my mind is clear. I feel better knowing that I am doing something good at least. Eventually I started reducing my footprint. Reducing waste as much as possible. My lifestyle changed a lot, along with my decisions. It is a fun and long journey, and not a difficult one if you are willing to give up some of your time to implement it.
A whole-food plant based diet is a dramatic improvement to my health, as well as the environment. Considering all the facts, specially meat consumption being one of the most devastating to the environment, I am happy I've made the change. Just wish I had made it long ago.

Ask yourself... is this the best we can do? just let corruption govern? thriving at the expense of others? when will it end? why do we allow the greedy companies to command what is the best for us? do you want to live in a world where everything is degrading... animals and nature dying, pollution is the norm, diseases are the norm, lack of biodiversity, medicine stagnated, etc? eventually we will be dead too. No matter what, we cannot survive without it!

This is a call for help... to bring awareness of the world to you.
I suggest you please mark on your calendar (at least once a month), what have you done to protect others? even the smallest thing counts.

Things to get you started (in no specific order):

  • Reduce dairy. Start with plant based mylk. Since it is estimated that 75% of the population is lactose intolerant, more benefits to you.
  • Stop buying real leather. There are plenty of alternatives, including many fake materials that look real.
  • Reduce meat/fish consumption on a frequent basis. Start with once a week. Our tastes are doomed, however you will slowly appreciate other flavours from earthly foods.
  • Reduce plastic waste. One consequence is microplastics. Start with using less plastic bags (buy a reusable one and carry it with you, always!), less bottles of water, bigger quantities of shampoo/shower gel (or even better, change to soap). I recommend buying a reusable bottle of water to carry with you.
  • Similarly don't buy cosmetics that contain microbeads. They have been banned in many countries, but check first.
  • Treat nature with respect. Don’t throw garbage to the floor, unless it is decomposable.
  • Separate your batteries and electronics from your other trash.
  • Don’t buy from companies that test on animals or exploit the environment!
  • Strive to buy and use earth friendly materials like metals (steel, aluminium), glass, cotton/natural fibres, wood, natural oils, paper, carton, etc. Bonus points for compostable. See the difference. Avoid too much plastic.
  • Be conscious of your purchases big or small. Ask what is made of. Avoid materials or chemicals that damage the environment. Be curious!
  • Stop using straws. This is a devastating problem to water species. Buy yourself glass, metal or bamboo straws and always carry it with you.
  • Do not flush any materials down the toilet that can be dangerous to these species (take your time to know these).
  • When eating out, make sure you put your left overs on the appropriate garbage cans. This will ease the recycle process.
  • Make more use of public transports, or if you drive to switching to an electric car.
  • Reduce the use of paper where you can.
  • Buy used or at least more durable goods.
  • Try to use your possessions longer to reduce consumerism. There are plenty of ideas for repurpose. Otherwise read bellow.
  • Sell or even better give your goods to someone else, so they can make use of it. Don’t throw it away! You can also exchange it, when buying a new product.
  • Buy organic if you can (but don't obsess over it). However make sure you look out for companies that belong to associations that treat this subject seriously. Not all organic farmers follow the best practices.
  • Support local or smaller businesses that are doing the right thing.
  • Volunteer or donate to charities.
  • Treat animals with respect. Give them love! They need your help!
  • Spread awareness!

It is all too easy to ignore what goes around in the world. Just please be mindful. For each action we make, for each purchase we do, we could be severely affecting others and ultimately ourselves.
Any little change is important. You don’t have to go big now. In fact, together we will be more successful by going slowly. Eventually it will all fall into place. The healthier the environment, the healthier you will be. Let’s please stop acting like we are not responsible for our own acts. Destruction won’t go away, unless we do something about it now.

We should be striving to live in harmony, without damaging the most beautiful thing we’ve got… the planet! Let's do it together!
It is all about reducing our footprint, so other species and nature can thrive too. They have the same right to live in peace as we do. We all need each other!
Habits take time to form, but as with anything, the rewards are worth fighting for! Remember it is not too late to change. One person can make a difference!

You have my gratitude. If you have been doing this for a while, my gratitude expands even further :)
Remember, the next generations won't forget you (for better or for worse)!
Greta Thunberg has a message for you!

Also don’t forget to treat all human beings with respect. Help them overcome their issues, even strangers. The happier everyone is, the better we become. Nobody deserves less!
Thanks for reading!

If you need help with this or any other issue, feel free to message me/add me on steam!

There is a reward if you read carefully until the end. I hope you do ;)
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Added. I see what you did there ^.^

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A rare and beautiful post.

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You got it! Thank you :D

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I enjoyed reading your post. So here is the last key I have to share atm, and a 💙

Lately..I am becoming aware of changes I need to make in life - In order to feel better about myself, and at the same time, respect the world I inhabit. It's a work in progress for sure.

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Awesome. I am happy that you enjoyed and started making changes in your life already ;)

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Agriculture production as a major driver of the Earth system exceeding planetary boundaries

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True! Thanks a lot. I like the themed giveaways =D

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The fact is he is globaly right.
We have a big trouble in front of us.

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It is a shame you think that way. Perhaps my complexion has to do with how we close our eyes to problems that have plagued the world for decades? Anyway, you don't have to agree. Look for Greta Thunberg, a 16 year old who is fighting for this at such a young age!

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I think Mayanaise was making a joke about your avatar...

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So much needless anger :/

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Well you can have opinions like everyone else.
But calling a young girl with a passion for something good a "crazy little girl with serious issues" is a bit... much.

We have all been 16. I wasted my youth partying and being a waste of space.
Now that I'm older... I see her as a value to us all. Regardless of her mental state.

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Hah, a blacklist over this 😆 cute

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I guess I have a bug in my system.. or maybe aliens? 👽
Well well.. hugs all around. Be well ✌

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When picture proof ain't good enough - Vote Mayanaise !

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some serious issues

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She just spotted Trump in that very moment - can u blame her? 🤣

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Hello,

First, I appreciate your thread, so I put here some other things and I think more later ;)
You can also use less electricity cause of his production that use oil or gas or coal(you may inform yourself of the peak of each). There are some electicity that is from water (I don't know name in english), solar and wind but very few.
Do do this, it's possible to use less internet or in a différent way:
-No Netflix or only SD
-No picts in forums cause they were Dl by all users
-Use Youtube only on 360p max. Best is 144p on phone ;)
-Fair use of mails. No co copy all people that you know.
-Close internet at night or in day when you are no at home

After, there are lot of thing to do but electric car has some trouble:
-Battery production that cause Co2 production
-Collect of lithium for battery that pollute a lot (as all mineral exctract)
-Recycling of batteries that is really hard and energetic
-You have a car of 2 tons instend of only 1 tons and 300kg

also:
-"Don’t buy from companies that exploit the environment"
I think that only these companies can survive cause they don't pay that they do on it.
The one that respect it can't survive cause they are more expensive for products...

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I blame the greens whose sabotage opening of new nuclear plants. Yes, it is dangerous but still better than all the coal and oil plants, those need to be shut down now immediately. While nuclear energy also not good, on current CO2 levels those other ones now clearly fatal, more nuclear energy could at least still give us a bit more time.

Solar, geothermic, water plants just can't give enough electricity to feed the needs, not yet.

Yes, humanity prays for cold fusion every day.

The collapse is unavoidable while money exists, then the Earth and Nature will have time to recover without humanity, unless the CO2 reach a point of no return, just like it happened on Venus (might be caused by an intelligent lifeform several millions of years ago?)

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Greenpeace was created during cold war and they were afraid of nuclear winter (I can understand it)
So now they gone against nuclear in general.
I didn't want to speak about nuclear cause there are to much fakes and belives in that subject.
Yes nuclear can be dangerous but not as we think and yes it can help us after global energy peak.
So we have to make choises. Cold fusion won't be a reality (that give energy to a big part of the world. We can take 10% as a big part) during our live I think. During life of my child? It's possible but only nearly.
Go see the uno part of Unscar (don't know how it's writen in english) to see how nuclear is dangerous.

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- Human overpopulation (en.wikipedia.org)
- How it impacts the environment (www.thebalancesmb.com)
- The planet can't cope with overpopulation (www.weforum.org)

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cannibalism, the humane choice

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Soylent Green

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Soylent Green is People!!

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Cannibalism can give the same illness as mad cow.

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only if you eat the brain, so leave those for the undead hordes

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Yes, you're right. There's some communities who have still some people with this trouble.

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Thank you sir 🙏🏽

Soylent Green for everyone!

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If we all change a LOT, the world would be WAY better.

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We have solar for our home.
Yes, still connected to the public grid (just in case the sun s does not shine enough to fill our storage batteries), but we feed the grid with excess electricity our panels create. The utility company pays us each month.
We chose the shorter-lived lead-acid storage batteries. Yes, we have to replace them more often than we would with other types. but here in the US lead acid batteries are 80-90% recyclable, and battery recycling companies actively seek them out and pay (small money) for them. The other types of batteries used for solar power storage are not recyclable, because the cost of trying to extract usable materials from them outweighs profit for recycling companies.By a great deal. Hopefully, someday, the process to extract those materials will be more simplified, and more common. But for now... lead acid batteries FTW.
https://simplysolarcalifornia.com/are-solar-batteries-recyclable/

We have greenhouses (run on solar as well) that let us grow much of our own veggies year-round, and grow as much as we can in our gardens in our yard in the Spring and Summer. We compost as much garden, kitchen and yard 'waste" as possible. using it to feed our gardens and yard as possible. No chemicals. Been an organic gardener since the 70's. Our kids learned it the same way we learned it, from our parents (farmers).

We plant only native trees, shrubs and flowers in our yard and on our property. Low-no maintenance native plants. Saves water, and no chemicals needed to keep them alive. We help to plant native trees and plants in local parks and recreation areas. Plant native trees. Support #TeamTrees and organizations that help replant native trees in deforested areas.
https://teamtrees.org/
https://treecanada.ca/

One thing about using steel though... steel production itself is a dirty business. I grew up in Pittsburgh, The Steel City. And the pollution from steel production back in the days when it was a thriving industry here was bad. The process has not changed much. The production has shifted from here to countries like China, where pollution controls are far less stringent than here. Production of metals is still a pollution causing industry. Know where your products are coming from, and what their environmental protections are, and what their impacts are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production

Cut back on plastic use, yes! Use washable, reusable bags or totes when grocery shopping, or take your own bags (single use plastic) back to the store and reuse them if possible. Use paper bags (recyclable and compostable) when possible. Luckily our local grocery store uses brown paper bags with no chemical inks on them, and meet the guidelines for being called compostable,rather than just biodegradable.
https://www.naturespath.com/en-us/blog/whats-difference-biodegradable-compostable/

And when you are out and about, being one with nature...

Take nothing but pictures.
Leave nothing but footprints.
Kill nothing but time.

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Thank you for sharing this!

Teamtrees is such a positive movement.

The article doesn’t mention lithium-ion batteries, but they are also recyclable. However it does have a problem with Cobalt, which is mined of Congo. Car companies are repurposing them for domestic and business power storage, which is an interesting idea.
According to battery university, Lead Acid is a better choice. I wasn’t aware they were so recyclable.

I wish I could have solar panels, but until I own a house it is impossible. Same for growing vegetables. It is on my radar when I get there.

Oh! And compostable materials. That’s a good point. I made a slightly change to the post to reflect that.

Steel production is one of the most effective and one of the most recyclable materials in the world. And nearly 100% of its co-products can be reused. It is curious that you mention it, since recycling is more cost-effective than mining.

Inspiring last message :)

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Steel itself is greatly recyclable. But the actual mills that produce it, are heavy polluters. Better now, with pollution controls... but those sometimes break down. We deal with it here in the Pittsburgh area more often than we should.

I have no issue with the final product, it is the steps taken to get there that are not so environmentally friendly.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pittsburgh-air-quality-problem-recalls-the-bad-old-days-11552388400

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or if you can switch to an electric car.

Electric cars are a very good example of people having good intentions while actually harming the environment. If you have a car, no matter what it is, use it until you can, until it runs. THEN buy an electric car or even a hybrid. Making cars is extremely demanding of the environment.

Buy organic. No pesticides is better for you.

Well, not always. GMOs are usually a pretty good thing for the environment since the same resources going into growing a smaller plant will now produce bigger and more desirable produce, reducing food waste. Organic's also really expensive and therefore it actually takes funds from you to spend the premium for environmentally less harmful alternatives.

Separate your household recyclables when doing the trash.

Well, start with actually investigating what happens with recyclable trash. Often enough, all that trash gets thrown into the same pile regardless, which is just an unnecessary headache for you for quite literally no benefit.

Start with using less plastic bags (buy a reusable one and carry it with you, always!)

Reuse plastic bags, no need to actually stop. In fact, cloth bags are really tolling to the environment. You'd need to use the cloth bag around 7100 times according to the Danish Ministry of Environment and Food's 2018 study.
Now, perhaps you constantly use a cloth bag. Say, you go to a store AND BUY once a day even. That's 19.5 years of active use. Will that cotton bag (most reusable bags are made of cotton) last 20 years for you? Most don't last over 2-3 years in fact, due to natural wear and tear.
Plastic bags require around 37 uses. Let's say even 40 to give it an almost 10% boost.
Instead make sure to throw things away properly and to reuse plastic bags, which were never meant to be one-use items.

There were a couple other misleading instructions here, but I appreciate the enthusiasm and the time you took to write it all out. You've got great intentions here.

Bump!

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Some good points. It's also worth noting that pesticides are still used in organic farming. Many of these are less effective than non-organic pesticides (leading to greater food waste through crop loss). And there are legitimate questions as to whether some of these organic pesticides are actually worse for human health than non-organic alternatives.

All of this is complicated by the fact that it's so ridiculously difficult to conduct studies on food consumption that are scientifically rigorous while still providing generally applicable advice. Which is truly unfortunate, because I think many people would be more open to changing their diet habits if there was indisputable evidence about how to eat healthier (e.g. organic vs non-organic, fats vs carbs, small frequent meals vs intermittent fasting). But as it stands, it's too easy to find studies that support your bias and trust those results more than results that contradict your beliefs.

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Organic is associated with biodiversity, which sadly has been disrupted for decades. This means that most of the food you get from various sources that are not organic, can and will have less nutrients. Now I am not saying all organic food is good, but I think it is fair to support farmers that grow naturally.
For the pesticides associated with organic growing, you can look out for companies that belong to associations that treat this subject seriously. I strive to support farmers that are aware of the best practices. I've updated the post to reflect this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Household recyclables is a grey topic. The trash may or may not go all to a landfill, but at the same time, by doing it at least we've done our part. Doesn't cost much time in my opinion. I admit, this is not something that it is going to help much with the environmental crisis. Perhaps I should remove it from the list :/

The plastic bags point, was not for you to not use plastic bags, but to reduce its usage. If you buy a plastic bag with the intent to reuse it, that's fantastic. Personally I use a mix of both plastic and cloth. Actually in my case, cloths are so much more durable. My plastic bags don't last nearly as long, and I only have them because they are left overs.

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I think most of this comment was intended for zeruel132's comment I responded to. You may want to respond to that one directly because I don't think zeruel132 will get a notification that you responded to this comment chain (and I assume you want zeruel132 to see it).

On the organic nutrition front, there isn't much in the way of conclusive evidence that supports organic produce being more nutritious. One of the largest studies reached the conclusion that is essentially identical. This article seemed to be the most recent I found that found any real benefit to organic produce: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/07/11/330760923/are-organic-vegetables-more-nutritious-after-all. And as it notes in the article, the factors that may affect that one area of difference (antioxidants), are not universal among organic produce and something you likely will never be able to determine when you're choosing your produce. If health is the legitimate concern, the majority of people (those who are budget-conscious) would be better-suited buying twice as much conventional produce and eating more of it (especially in place of less healthy foods) than eating less organic produce.

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I saw the study, which is mainly towards human consumption, and in that area they are in fact inconclusive. Furthermore, the thing with organic is that it affects other ecosystems. That’s not to say biodiversity is well studied, because sadly it isn’t. Its impacts are unknown, but potential devastating.

It is estimated that only 1% of the world’s agricultural land is organic. Yet, there are many advantages in its practice: reduce pesticides and chemicals, healthier soil and oceans, combatting erosion, fighting effects of global warming, support for animal welfare and their health.
Look into permaculture

Anyway, you are right in that if you are only worried about your health, you are better off focusing on just eating healthy without worrying too much for organic.

I think there is opportunity for both to coexist, and in controlled environments conventional farming is better (for instance, greenhouses), as long as it doesn’t spread to other ecosystems. In conclusion, buy organic when you can (not exclusively all the time). I’ve changed the post slightly to clarify this.

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I think that's a more nuanced take. Kudos for trying to do your part to educate people (and being open to new information when it's presented).

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Sure. We should all be open minded to new information. The choices we make are based with the information we have at the time, no one is to blame. Spreading awareness and discussing topics, while respecting everybody's opinion is the way forward imo.

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Hey there! Just pinging you, in case you are interested in seeing our responses above. Mistakenly replied to mercury529 :)

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Also a reminder : if 5 people makes 20% less waste or reduces meat consumption that is equivalent of one zero-waste person or a 100% vegan. Don't feel like you're not doing anything just because you aren't doing it hardcore, a small improvement in one field is still an improvement.

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Totally. That is the intention

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Taking care about our Planet need include space exploration, because asteroids do not care how much Solar or Wind power plants you have.

Last our Planet has been hit hard 12,800 years ago. Multiple airbursts/impacts burn 50 million km² of Earth’s surface this cause climate change and megafaunal extinctions ( Mamuts , Sabretooth tigers ect.) and also extinction of Clovis Culture ( some unlucky humans live where asteroids falls from sky )

Science paper
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-38089-y

Podcast in this topic
https://youtu.be/nPOlomFhehQ

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I am off on this, but thanks :)

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"Buy organic. No pesticides is better for you.", nice joke internet person who has the funds for such things and access to a market that has customers who can afford them.
"Make more use of public transports, or if you can switch to an electric car." - really?Electric vehicle?Not everyone has access to decent public transport.
"Separate your household recyclables when doing the trash. Pay special attention to batteries or electronics." by now it's obvious to me that you are talking only about highly developed countries because some countries don't even recycle (/separate trash) and dump sewage into rivers.

I'm sure that fish and other meat have nutrients that aren't available in plant foods (like retinol and probably some proteins).

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These are not meant to be applied to all. What part of things to get started didn't you understand? Please don't be picky!

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Thanks :D

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I don't know whether to admire or to pity some people's naivety...

Eating less meat (or even stopping eating meat whatsoever) won't make meat industries to produce less meat.
Also good luck persuading indigenous people of the North like Aleuts, Eskimo, Chukchi etc, and to stop eating meat. They hardly eat anything besides meat because edible plants don't really grow where they live. You'll probably have to relocate all of them in order for your plan to succeed, which means... well, most likely, cutting some forests to build homes for these people.
Even if we assume the humanity will stop consuming meat one day, the Earth isn't big enough to grow enough vegetables and plant foods to feed everyone. Which means... well, again, cutting some forests to place farms, fields etc.
Then it would take hundreds of years to switch to full organic food. in the meanwhile the pesticides will kill all bees and a lot of other insects, also some species of birds that harm our lovely crops will have to be exterminated as well. Also, less than 0.5% of Earth population can afford organic food on a regular basis nowadays, so those lucky ones will probably have to subsidize the rest.
Everyone will also be driving in electric cars, but until every country in the world manages to switch to solar, wind or other kind of environment-friendly energy a few centuries will pass as well, and in the meanwhile we'll totally pollute everything while producing electricity to run our fancy electric cars.
Etc, etc.

Mind you, I'm totally for environment, I care about animals, I don't litter, I don't have a car at all and don't intend to ever get one, I even vote for Green party, but whatever you and your Greta suggest is just a fantasy which will never work.

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So you are saying that companies produce and kill animals because you are not buying it?

I can only recommend you watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5hGQDLprA8

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Eating less meat (or even stopping eating meat whatsoever) won't make meat industries to produce less meat.

So you're saying if people would only eat 50% of the meat we produce today, the companies would just go on producing it and then probably throw away half of it? How does that make sense?

Even if we assume the humanity will stop consuming meat one day, the Earth isn't big enough to grow enough vegetables and plant foods to feed everyone. Which means... well, again, cutting some forests to place farms, fields etc.

Maybe google how many of the fields of the world are used just for the meat production. The food we use for the animals could more efficiently be used to feed us.

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So you're saying if people would only eat 50% of the meat we produce today, the companies would just go on producing it and then probably throw away half of it? How does that make sense?

First, I am afraid that is impossible. A change of that magnitude would never happen.
Second, overconsumption or throw away is already a current issue.
Third, let’s assume that did happen. In that case a lesson is learned. Next time they will produce 50% less meat. Which means 50% less animals of the world died. And a lot less of these: pollution in the air and water, destruction to the soil, pesticides, hormones, energy used, water used, deforestation, greenhouse emissions, ocean dead zones, ocean depletion, biodiversity loss, human obesity, human cancer, etc.

Too many issues to list, but here is a few sources for you to investigate for yourself:
http://science.time.com/2013/12/16/the-triple-whopper-environmental-impact-of-global-meat-production/
https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.11822/19196/Machovina_2015.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
https://www.pnas.org/content/111/33/11996.full

The livestock population on average outweighs the US human population by about 5 times. A reduce even in the slightest is a lot.

Even if we assume the humanity will stop consuming meat one day, the Earth isn't big enough to grow enough vegetables and plant foods to feed everyone. Which means... well, again, cutting some forests to place farms, fields etc.
Maybe google how many of the fields of the world are used just for the meat production. The food we use for the animals could more efficiently be used to feed us.

There are numerous studies that prove otherwise.
http://www.fao.org/3/a0701e/a0701e00.htm

"Livestock is the world’s largest user of land resources, with pasture and arable land dedicated to the production of feed representing almost 80% of the total agricultural land. One-third of global arable land is used to grow feed, while 26% of the Earth’s ice-free terrestrial surface is used for grazing."

Around 15x more protein on any given area of land with plants, than cows.
"Beef production requires 20 times more land and emits 20 times more greenhouse gas emissions per unit of edible protein than common plant-based protein sources such as beans, peas and lentils. Chicken and pork are more resource-efficient than beef, but still require three times more land and emit three times more greenhouse gas emissions than beans. When it comes to resource use and environmental impacts, the type of food eaten matters as much, if not more, than how that food is produced."
https://www.wri.org/blog/2016/04/sustainable-diets-what-you-need-know-12-charts

Have you heard of vertical farming or aquaponics? None of that is possible with pastureland. And I believe more solutions will come.

The food we use for the animals could more efficiently be used to feed us.

Couldn’t agree more :)

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[Earth Space Colonies](https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/hMy25/earth-space-colonies) | darktribble | Level 3

I think that adam1224 made a good point about everybody doing something more within her or his own capabilities and resources might be equally as good as a smaller group doing everything. For this to have some effect it will take effort and work on many levels and of many people, especially those in the more developed and wealthier countries.
Here is another idea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_10

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Never heard of this project. Unfortunately there is not enough information to make practical help.

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Thank you

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I love the environmentally friendly thread, but I should warn you that "organic" is just a scam; they still use pesticides, but they're weaker, so they need to use more, so you're actually eating more poison. At least, that's what a former USDA Secretary has to say.

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You are right in some cases. I've updated the post to reflect this.

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bump for Earth

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I'm a firm believer if humanity came this far to destroy the earth, they should really finish it. Not saying this out of malice, but humanity advance when there is neccesity, if we dont cannibalise what we have here, space age will never happen. I'm not afraid of species dying because in the progress, we make sure the remaining ones are damn near indestructible, the cockroaches of their species.
What I agree with you is the needless problems, like dumping your trash in the forest, that aint helping. But testing products on rats to see if they are harmful to us is perfectly reasonable, would you want your skin melt when you apply sunscreen, or die because the vaccination was not tested beforehand?

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This is an entire different topic.

Medicine is a rational process to the protection and evolution of genes. I don't disagree with it to an extend, when the benefits are visible and clear to the whole. It is the typical story of survival, when you have to sacrifice one for the survival of many others. Thus the testing must be justifiable and ended when results are done.
With that said the whole pharma industry is a big scandal. The by-pass products of the testing don't go to people because they need it, but because of the $ greediness. Cures have been discovered in the past, but slashed forever, because it doesn't benefit them. Keeping the population healthier should be the priority of any government, focusing on prevention instead of eternally remediation. The exceptions should not be the rule. Sadly the current state doesn't look good, and a waste of potential as well as animal resources.

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Recently bought metal straws. A bit difficult to change the habits of grabbing it with teeth (plastic ones were soft :D).

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I got used to it pretty quickly, however I use glass though. Metal gets pretty cold :P

Try the bamboo ones. The only problem is the cleaning part.

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They came with long thin cleaners so it's no problem :)

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Be careful. I read an article recently where some lady was impaled on a metal straw and died.

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Why would you use straws at all ?
I havent used one since I was 5 most likely and seriously see NO reason of actually trying to come up with an alternative to something so useless

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I think there are situations where you'd want to use a straw, for example watching a movie at home or on the cinema. But if you make do without it, even better ;)

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Please explain to me why you need a straw, while watching a movie.

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For me, it is all a matter of not having to incline my head so that my eyes can't properly see the screen anymore. The straw comes in in order to avoid those weird angles.

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I'm with you on this one but try explaining that to my wife... But akylen might have a point here, especially that my wife tends to be as clumsy as Colette from Tales series :)

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Excluding the part with Thunberg, this post has to be pinned.

Also thumbs up for people raising the fact that 'organic' is a matter we have to be very cautious with because farmers and corporations around the world play with words here to make profit. There are exceptions but they are currently a very minor percentage.

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What didn't you like about Greta? I understand she might not seem very likeable at first. But that is because she is very frustrated (with reason).

I've updated the post to make it clear about the organic matter.

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I believe there are political gains behind her and the surrounding hype. I feel like some parties are using her as a means of making their opponents look bad. What she says is right, I just think it's a well-set and thought performance to serve other means (that she may not even be aware of).

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Small plastic bags are perfect for the litter box.

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I'm here with my high moral superiority to tell you all what tyo do with your lives.

thoughts and prayers

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Free-range and grass-fed all the way!

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What about...

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Tenderised and ready to eat, yum!

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