I love RPG games as they are my favorite type but maybe there are some I have missed in last 20 years?

So please post all RPG games that you loved and are great. You can post links to steam for that games.

RPG FANS UNITE!

EDIT: Just wanted to say I love you all guys and gals!

5 years ago*

Comment has been collapsed.

Putting aside classics like Baldur's Gate and Planescape Torment, i was really amazed at Fallout New Vegas: really solid RPG mechanics, lots of choices to do and a dynamic factions system that allows you to pick your preferred factions to help or fight. Also one of the few RPGs that allows the player to do skill checks in all skills, letting you avoid fights and making even a pacifist build suitable.

Other good choices are Divinity Original Sin, Dragon Age Origins, Torment: Tides of Numenera and Alpha Protocol, although this one gameplay-wise is quite bad.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Fallout New Vegas maybe I will give it a try in the future. I loved Fallout 1 and 2 and Tactics but Fallout 3 and 4 are not for me so I'm afraid to buy Fallout New Vegas.

Divinity Original Sin and Dragon Age Origins I finished long time ago on GOG.com

Torment: Tides of Numenera I have finished 3 times and got 100% achivments on steam.

I liked and finished Alpha Protocol despite all the criticism the game got.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

If you're afraid of the relatively new first person system fear not, New Vegas is more akin to Fallout 2 than 3 and 4. If you loved convincing people in Fallout 2 through skill checks you'll love New Vegas too. Besides, the game was made by the same people, since Obsidian was formed from some Black Isle developers.
You can find the Ultimate Edition on sale for just $10, which has all 4 story DLCs, which are fantastic too. Definitively one of my favourite RPGs.

Also may i suggest you Neverwinter Night 2: Mask of the Betrayer? It's another very solid choice, despite the main game being not that great.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 with all expansions - finished 5 times while I still had a working DVD copy of both.

Thank you for the Fallout New Vegas info!

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Obsidian also made Alpha Protocol, Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny, so despite being an FPS, you'll probably enjoy its RPG elements.

Speaking of ex-Fallout developers, you should also enjoy games from Troika - The excellent Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Arcanum and Temple of Elemental Evil.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Pillars of Eternity finished and I kept my save to play Pillars of Eternity 2 when I buy it. Tyranny finished 5 times to get all achievements and also see how powerfull my hero can get :)
Alpha Protocol finished long time ago and it was good :)

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines finished 3 times to check different clans.
Arcanum - finished 3 times.

Temple of Elemental Evil - finished it but it was an o.k game. Story was nice but gameplay mechanics were not polished.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I never could finish ToEE, the gameplay was just too frustrating.

Obsidian also made KOTOR2, Dungeon Siege III, Southpark, and Pathfinder Adventures, but you probably played all those already xD.

The Bard's Tale has funny writing, and the fourth opus was released not too long ago.

Have you played Shadowrun: Dragonfall (and Returns and Hong Kong)?

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

All Shadowruns I have finished on GOG.com but I want to get them on steam to finish them again :P

The Bard's Tale songs were the best songs in games ever :D

I'm thinking about Pathfinder Adventures as it looks mroe like a card game and there is no hero you can create yourself?

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yup I'll always remember fondly of those songs and Pathfinder isn't an RPG unfortunately.

A little different but still great anyway, there's The Warlock of Firetop Mountain and NEO Scavenger too.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

There's also Expeditions: Conquistador, it has excellent writing similar to Shadowrun: Dragonfall. The game's very hard though.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Expeditions: Conquistador and Expeditions: Viking are on my wishlist :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Plus all fanmade modules for NWN1 and NWN2. For NWN1 I recommend Tortured Hearts 1&2.

https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/module/tortured-hearts-i
https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/module/tortured-hearts-ii

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Why do you say Fallout 3 is not for you? Did you try it or are you put off by the first person perspective or the reviews by the Bethesda bashers? I'm a fan of the first two Fallouts and Wasteland, and I really liked Fallout 3, more so than New Vegas.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I tried to play it 3 times and each time got bored after clearing the school from enemies and after doing quests in 1st town.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Oh. I guess you have seen the fundamental mechanics then but I think its strength is really in conveying the barren emptiness of the wasteland and rewarding exploration. There are a lot of interesting stories, morally grey quests, and rewards to be discovered off the beaten path (without quest markers), many of which have interesting implications later in the game. It doesn't spoonfeed you, so people that haven't discovered secrets by exploring aren't led to them and there are no unselectable speech options to indicate that something was missed, leading a lot of less curious players to think that there are fewer options for resolving quests than there actually are. I think it also does random wasteland NPC vs NPC or creature interactions as well as anything since S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.

Others have suggested pretty much everything I would have. I'll assume you've played Wasteland 2, but if not, that is a must for anyone that liked the first two Fallout games. I would have suggested Tyranny, but I see that you've already given that a proper thrashing. :-D

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

For me Fallout 3 was just an empty bland open world game filled with enemies just to give you something to shoot at and to make the world fell les empty than it really is.

Also Fallout 3 dialogue choices seemed just weak compared to Fallout 1 and 2.

Maybe in future when I will have played all my backlog on steam I will try it again.

Wasteland 2 was great I can't wait for 3rd one. And also waiting for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

If you don't like Fallout 3 and 4, then New Vegas will not be your cup of tea. It's in the FPS/Third person mode like in 3 & 4 and have similar playstyles.

And New Vegas is FAR more crash prone too. Obsidian really screwed the pooch there.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I know that, but New Vegas is far less reliant on combat, since most of the time you are either exploring or talking and aside from standard enemies, lots of fights can be avoided by successfully passing skill checks. In fact, some players have managed to do completely pacifist runs, by either avoiding fights altogether or letting companions do them in your place.

As far as the crashes go... well, it's standard Obsidian fare, as neither Alpha Protocol or KOTOR2 were that much polished either. And it can be somewhat alleviated by installing some fan-made patches, fixing a lot of bugs and restoring deleted contents in the process.

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas are actually quite similar gameplay-wise, they both have plenty random encounters you have to fight through. Fallout 3 has a lot of narrative quests as well which can also be solved non-violently. Unless you want to nitpick fine details between both games, I don't see a significant difference between the two. New Vegas might be slightly more narrative, but otherwise most of what you said applies to Fallout 3 as well.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Not really. First of all, there are far less fights and most of them can be stealthed or skipped (either through skill checks, shortcuts or secondary paths). There are unavoidable fights especially when adventuring between landmarks though (random cazadores and death squads are a prime example).
On the roleplay side, New Vegas absolutely blows away 3. There are waaaay more skill checks with multiple interactions between NPCs and factions, every quest has from two to a dozen different outcomes based on your choices and every build becomes feasible (eg. using either Medicine, Survivalist or Guns skills to pick from the dialogue tree, something that 3 didn't really do beyond the Speech and Barter skills). Besides, dialogue choices in 3 amount to good karma/neutral/bad karma responses, while New Vegas has multiple outcomes because of the faction system on top of the karma system. Not to mention that every NPC can be killed and the game will react accordingly.
Here's a nice flowchart for the average New Vegas quest: https://i.imgur.com/mAENC.jpg

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Not sure if you're remembering wrong, and I'm honestly not being disrespectful but you're wrong about the combat. New Vegas has slight improvements when it comes to combat, but the amount, and the type, of combat is about the same. You can stealth or skip it in the same manner in Fallout 3. Though a stealth playthrough is most likely going to be a secondary playthrough since that isn't the primary way any of the Fallout games were made to be played.

I strongly disagree with "blows away" Fallout 3. New Vegas is more narrative than Fallout 3, but Fallout 3 still has a good amount of narrative with a lot of side stuff as well. Fallout 3 quests also have several different outcomes. You may be correct about the skills, it's been too long to remember. The faction system is no where as great as you seem to make it out to be, apart from people attacking you (or not) and offering different endings it does very little. You can kill most NPC's in Fallout 3 as well, though if you really NEED to kill everything (except for children) I suppose New Vegas is "better". That flowchart is most definitely not an "average" quest, it is one of the longer ones I distinctly remember it for that reason.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Not sure if you're remembering wrong, and I'm honestly not being disrespectful but you're wrong about the combat. New Vegas has slight improvements when it comes to combat, but the amount, and the type, of combat is about the same. You can stealth or skip it in the same manner in Fallout 3.

As i said before, it's not different, but it's more viable, even without explicitly speccing. Enemies have lower Perception values, there are more options thanks to perks and equip tailored for stealth builds, the alert status is shorter and there are more silent weapons that guarantee critical hits, of which you can also customize accordingly.

Though a stealth playthrough is most likely going to be a secondary playthrough since that isn't the primary way any of the Fallout games were made to be played.

That's what i'm trying to say. In New Vegas there aren't "primary" or "recommended" ways to play (well, except for pushing Intelligence as you get more skill points for a Master of All character).

The faction system is no where as great as you seem to make it out to be, apart from people attacking you (or not) and offering different endings it does very little

Not true. Depending on your alignment, you get completely different quests, even in the main story. Being vilified by the Legion means that you can't access their questline and secondary stuff, along their outposts. If you kill Mr House you can't access his storyline and you'll need to go to the NCR or the Legion, or go with the Wild Card option. It's totally possible to play the game several times, each time picking a different faction and you'll discover new quests and other secondary stuff. This also means that no faction will be openly hostile to you if you play your cards right, at least until the point you have to make a choice.

You can kill most NPC's in Fallout 3 as well, though if you really NEED to kill everything (except for children) I suppose New Vegas is "better".

Again, not true. ALL plot related NPCs can be killed and the main quest will react accordingly. If you kill Caesar, you become permanently vilified by the Legion and, as written above, can't access their storyline. In Fallout 3 you can't kill, say, your Dad or General Autumn because otherwise the main questline couldn't go further. This is emphasized when you'll need to kill plot related characters in the late game and you'll get an explicit warning that doing so will lock their respective storylines. You CAN'T complete ALL quests in a single playthrough for this exact reason, although i'll let you decide if this is a good thing or not.

That flowchart is most definitely not an "average" quest, it is one of the longer ones I distinctly remember it for that reason.

The flowchart is valid for most main quests, hence the term "average". I have a pretty extensive book guide about it that shows the multiple possibilities for every quest and most of them are as complex as this one. Some quests (like That Old Lucky Sun) even influence other unrelated details in the game world. It's a level of complexity that 3 doesn't have, beside your standard good solution/evil solution.

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Deleted

This comment was deleted 2 years ago.

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I totally second this. Fallout New Vegas was made by a team consisting mostly of people who were involved in Fallout 1 and 2, and it shows. Those three Fallout games stand FAR ABOVE the games Bethesda has developed. I enjoyed Fallout 3 and 4, but they never felt like Fallout games to me. They're more "The Elder Scrolls: Post-Apocalypse" games. FONV recaptured the thematic magic of the original games, even if it did so with the game engine of Fallout 3, and even if that engine gave the game elements that fans of the original Fallout games weren't crazy about.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I've always had an almost opposite reaction to the game than most do for some reason. Personally I enjoyed Fallout 3 the most, followed by Fallout 4 and then New Vegas which I really didn't enjoy that much. Main reasons is just not liking any of the factions so I didn't care about them, bland world, blander main story that was very much end weighted and add the bugs of the game on top of that I really just didn't enjoy the experience overall. There were a few good new additions but not enough to makeup for all the faults to me. Then again I came into fallout with fallout 3 and came in as a elder scrolls fan first so perhaps what I look for is different than people who started with the first two fallout games.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Deleted

This comment was deleted 2 years ago.

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I didn't play Fallout 1 or 2 as I stated, I came in with 3 so I didn't have set expectations from prior fallout's to compare to. So only judging between 3, new vegas and 4. To me New Vegas felt like two conflicting factions that neither one appealed to me, I didn't care for either, and the main story mostly felt like, go to new vegas then story end, didn't feel like much adventure between there other than stuff involving the factions that I didn't really like and the brotherhood of steel got turned into a bunch of hermits. Felt like DLC was better for 3 as well, though I did like the new vegas DLC with the brains forget its name now but it was funny at least.

As for my favorite Elder Scrolls, that would be Oblivion, as messy as the game engine could be with that one sometimes, the quest were just better than the others, main quest was just epic and faction equaling it in some cases. Other issues it had could be more easily fixed with mods than Skyrim's overall weak quest and story and for me Morrowind wasn't quite as good story wise as Oblivion. While I liked the idea of the main story of Morrowind, a lot of the execution to play out as well for me.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Deleted

This comment was deleted 2 years ago.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Hehe, yea that is one mistake I smartly avoided. Had a bad vibe about 76 from the start and turned out I was right to wait and see how it turned out.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I loved Alpha Protocol. It is a gem.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's broken beyond salvation and the shooting feels like aiming a rifle with your feet, but the RPG mechanics are groundbreaking. I'd gladly buy a remastered version with improved gameplay. It's the game that made me an Obsidian fanboy after New Vegas.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I really love Legend of Legaia (PS1) and Final Fantasy VII (PS1)
Haven't tried other Final Fantasy though.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I finished Final Fantasy I, II, III, IV, V, VI and I'm waiting for VII remake :) and after that I will finish all the new Final Fantasy :) (all on PC)

I play only on PC so I have never heard of Legend of Legaia.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

If you like Final Fantasy games, especially the old 2D ones, you should totally try IX. It's even on Steam.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

do we have 1-6 on PC?
I can only see 7,8,9,10,13,15 on steam https://store.steampowered.com/sale/final-fantasy/
Google showed me 14 Online but when I clicked, it was redirected to home

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I was using emulators on my old PC many years ago.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

You played them the correct way then, the original versions are still the best versions in a lot of ways (at least for FF5-6, the PSP version of FF4 is probably the best version of that game). If you want to play the PS1 FF games emulation is also probably the best way overall right now due to some bugs in the ports plus the fact that when playing on emulator you can run a CRT filter over them to make everything look consistent as it was meant to (instead of having razer sharp character models on blurry smeared or pixely backgrounds).

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Steam has FF 3-6, but they are ports of the mobile versions and just about the worst way you could experience those games.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

right, google search also shows them, but the link just redirects to welcome page
is it region locked or not available anymore?

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Must be region locked, I'm able to get to the store pages for them just fine.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Damn
Yeah, I can open the store too with incognito + VPN with US IP

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I wouldn't really wait on the VII remake, there is a good chance its experience may be very different from the original game no to mention the total game is going to be a long way off from being complete. Do yourself a favor and enjoy the newest steam release of it now. I'd also personally recommend Final Fantasy X as well, it is my second favorite of the final fantasy game, just don't really bother with X-2 unless all you care about is RPG combat systems.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

What is the difference between Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2 storywise?

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

X-2 may be a direct sequel but how it tells a story differs greatly. X is a tale narrated a good part by one of the main characters but a lot of the story itself centers around another. It is basically full of mystery, tragedy, conspiracy, religion and the burdens of inherited expectations. It's a somewhat linear game but played through fully the story won't let you down and it is told really well. X-2, well think of it as one of the characters from the first game goes on vacation mixed with a bit of Charlie's Angels. It is pretty much a joke in comparison.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Isnt RPG... like.. extremely huge genre with a loooot of different games in it ?

Last game I finished and enjoyed that has RPG tag was Lord of the Rings War in the north

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yes it is a huge genre. That is why I want this post to be here so I won't miss anything.

Lord of the Rings War in the north was great. I loved to play as dwarf :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Strictly speaking, no. It is a very small and narrow genre in video games.
Generally speaking, yes. Mostly because everything that has a progression system or random items is now deemed an "RPG", from Diablo to Borderlands or fucking Call of Duty.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Final Fantasy Tactics

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Loved it. Great classes and skills that you had to think when and how to use :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

don't miss fft advance for the GBA, to me it's quite as astonishingly awesome as the PS one! =P (that we had to import due to region restrictions and the game never released in Europe xD)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

FFT Advance was one of the most disappointing games I ever played.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I play it once a year since it came out, it's so great =P I tend to spend days just by making my team through charts and such =P

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The Mass Effect series, The Witcher 2 & 3 and Fallout: New Vegas were great.

Though I have a special love for my boy, Kingdom Come: Deliverance.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance is on ym wishlist :)

Fallout: New Vegas I'm afraid to buy because of Fallout 3 and 4.

Mass Effect 1, 2, 3 finished (1 was the best for me).
The Wither 1, 2, 3, also finished :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The thing with New Vegas is that the gameplay will be almost just as clunky as in 3.

But the story, the characters, the levelling system... all have been improved. Leveling not as much, but the story is bloody top notch, I'd say. I really had fun with it. The roleplaying aspects have improved a lot as well.

As to the modding scene, there are some must-haves, like quest mods created by a single modder, a couple of weapon and armor mods and some other smaller stuff too. But you definitely won't have as many good mods like in Skyrim. For me, I just can't download random mods and see how good they are since there'll be more conflicts and more issues overall usually. Not to mention that most lesser-known mods are clunky as shit.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I don't like mods. I want to play the game the way it was created so game + all DLCs but no mods so I can rate the game itself and remember if game was good or bad for the rest of my life ;)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I enjoyed New Vegas quit a bit.. I did run into a game breaking glitch and kind of gave up on it (but I really do want to start over again and actually finish it). Aside from that its lovely game..

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Woot, finally found someone that thinks like me that Mass Effect 1 was the best Mass Effect.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Not gonna lie.

The ending scene of ME 1 when I saw the sad faces of my companions and tears slowly building in Ashley eyes hit me harder than whole ME 2 and 3 did.

Also number of weapons and armors in that game made you think what to wear and what to sell and stats were important.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

If you liked the original Fallout games and not 3 and 4, then you should definitely give New Vegas a try. It's the true Fallout 3. As someone already mentioned, the developers at Obsidian worked on the originals, and a lot of the ideas behind the original (canceled) Fallout 3 went into New Vegas. I wasn't too crazy about Fallout 3, but I loved New Vegas.

I missed out on classics like Planescape Torment and Baldurs Gate as I was in college at the time, but I managed to get sucked into Deus Ex. I bought PS:T and the Baldurs Gate games (the originals) on GOG. I've played them, but haven't finished either. I backed both Pillars of Eternity games and the new Torment game on Kickstaarter, but I just recently started Pillars of Eternity and I'm loving it so far. I plan to play through Pillars 1 and 2, then I don't know, probably the original Planescape: Torment and the new new Planescape game, unless Wasteland 3 comes out by then. I also backed Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter, and I played it at release and enjoyed it.

I played Divinity: Original Sin with a friend. Coop was fun, but had its flaws. I want to play it solo one day as I felt playing it coop was both good and bad. I like to play at my own pace, and sometimes I felt rushed when my friend just wanted to fight things while I was trying to have conversations and get into the story. I started D:OS 2 coop with the same friend and another, but we didn't get far before quittiing due to schedules.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Divinity: Original Sin for me is singleplayer only as you can find so many secrets and funny things. And also it is fun to use telecinese to steal things xD

Original BG and Planescape Torment were great but I think Enchanted Editions are better :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Some FF games, VII, VIII (my favorite), X, XV

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Finished Final Fantasy games from I till VI. Now I wait for VII remake and then I go after all the FF VIII+

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Well, you have some good games left then. I also played XI but i did not really like it. Hopefully you will though. I think VII remake will be majorly different from the old one. Maybe they will not have so much in common.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I think you should go for FF VII and then VIII. Because VII Remake will be slightly different as a game design. Also nobody knows when will it come.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

VIII is also my favourite FF!

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1 for FFVIII. It's the best FF/RPG.
I still remember that intro video and how my PS1 would always freeze during the battle between Squall and that other guy. I love everything in that game, from the story and sound to that card game that I spent an unreasonable amount of time playing. xD

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Also keep an eye out for Octopath Traveler, its store page is up on Steam and will be available in a couple of months.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Thanks! Added this game to my wishlist :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Nobody seems to have mentioned Torchlight 2 yet for some reason, so let me do the honors. Back when T2 and Diablo III were both new and D3 earned a lot of criticism for its sales model, many hailed T2, a complete, polished game without DLCs or microtransactions, as what Diablo III should've been. Many also said it had more soul than D3, and I've even seen claims that called it "the true Diablo III". Also noteworthy: its launch price was $20, contrasting with D3's $60.

After over half a decade, it holds out quite well. With a sufficiently big set of mods, you'll never run out of fun (and its mod support is quite neat). Torchlight I and II are worthy spiritual successors to D2 regardless of one's opinions on D3. In fact, if you happen to like D3, then all the more reason to play T2.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Ahhhh Torchlight 1 and 2 - finished both 2 times :)

Path of Exile is true Diablo III for me ;)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I never quite looked at PoE very closely, though I must admit I'm somewhat skeptical and might be a little prejudiced towards MMO and F2P. How does it hold for single player?

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I remember playing it mostly as singleplayer as I love singleplayer and don't like MMO. Most of the times you play it like you did Diablo II. I also liked that there is no gold so there were no chinnese farmers and you traded with people with items or special orbs etc. that were usefull for many things and were accepted by players as a true currency.

Just remember to read many guides before playing as there are many skills and skill tree takes a space of about 4-6 gaming monitors so it is easy to pick wrong skills for your build.

But most of the time your 1st char will be just trial and error type of guy :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Sounds like the same kind of fun I've always had with T2. I'll definitely try it out. Thanks for the recommendation! :D

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Good thing is that the only things you can buy for real $ in Path of Exile are cosmetics or more room in your chest so there is no Pay 2 Win from what I remember (the main reason why I don't play F2P games as most of them have some form of Pay 2 Win).

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I was quite skeptical too, but i had to change my mind. Not only is completely free and microtransactions are cosmetic only, it also offer a lot of contents and is very well made. My only complaint was that post-endgame contents were far too difficult for my build and i had to drop it (or starting over).

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Torchlight 2 is an excellent choiche, but not really an RPG, it's more a hack n slash with RPG elements. Still a great game to play though.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yeah, Diablo and the games that came in its wake are one of those cases that aren't exactly an RPG in a traditional sense, but neither are they exactly a brawler in a traditional sense, either; it's more like a bit of several different things. The more you hybridize the game genres, the harder it becomes to classify games as belonging to specific genres. Personally, I think of game genres not as categories games may belong to, but as sets of elements they may draw from. So I totally see where you're coming from; it's a matter of where you put the emphasis.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Chrono Trigger, I play it and FF6 yearly for like the last 20 years

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross were great :)

FF6 was great but I prefer FF5 more with dual class system :)

It was fun to have Knight/White Mage or Monk/Summoner or Dragoon/Black Mage :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The Bannar Saga Trilogy maybe ? The first two are awesome, the third one a bit less but still good! I'd recommend if you like strategy, making choices, ..

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

All 3 are on my wishlist :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

They will probably be a deal for all 3 of them during Steam Summer Sales :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Can't wait! If you ever see a deal for them tell me please!

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

A couple of the more obscure RPG that I really enjoyed:

  • Crusader of Centy a.k.a Soleil on the Sega Megadrive
  • Crono Cross
  • CrossCode
  • Al Qadim (a Zelda inspired RPG but with an Arabian's Nights flavor)
  • Kingdoms of Amalur
  • Arx Fatalis

And of course:

  • Every Scroll of the Elder variety
5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I remember finishing Kingdoms of Amalur and Arx Fatalis.

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross I finished when I was young :P

CrossCode added to my wishlist.

Never heard of Crusader of Centy and Al Qadim. Will google it up :P

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Al-Qadim is on GOG pretty cheap
https://www.gog.com/game/alqadim_the_genies_curse

Crusader of Centy, I think only emulation or original hardware for that one.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Al Qadim was a Dungeons and Dragons 2nd edition setting. After the success of the gold box games, a lot of D&D settings were turned into games, and Al Qadim was one of the more innovative note, not better ones

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I think that despite some obscure puzzles, Al-Qadim is a pretty enjoyable game. Was the closest to a Zelda-like game on PC in the 90s, and the story is great.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Arcanum: an oft-forgotten classic

Underrail: what I consider to be the real Fallout 3

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Arcanum - finished it 3 times, once as a Warrior Ogre once as a Dwarf with guns and once as a elf mage :)

Underrail added to my wishlist :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

For "the real Fallout 3" - I'd point to Wasteland 2. It's an awesome game by the creative team that originally conceived of Fallout, which would have been Wasteland 2 if not for the fact that they had lost the rights to the Wasteland franchise. Now that Brian Fargo's team has the rights to Wasteland back, but doesn't have any rights to the Fallout name, they've gone back to their roots. Wasteland 2 was a blast, and I'm hopeful that Wasteland 3 delivers as well.

That's not to say anything against Underrail... I picked it up myself a long time ago, in hopes that it'd scratch that "Fallout Itch," but it's one of a ridiculous number of games that I haven't gotten around to playing yet. Your praise for the game caused me to add it to my "On Deck" category in Steam, though, so I play it sooner than I otherwise would've! :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Honestly I think Underrail might be even better than the old Fallouts on some points (like worldbuilding, but I'm very partial to subterranean stuff), although it's a lot more difficult. It's both a blessing (more tactical combat, interesting debuffs etc) and a curse (you can completely mess up your build if you don't know what you're doing, while the Fallouts were a lot more permissive regarding character building).

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

An awful lot of these games really aren't RPGs in any meaningful sense. I enjoy a level-up-hack-and-slash game (Titan Quest, Torchlight, Van Helsing, etc), but they're definitely not RPGs. "RPG" requires more than just a bunch of character levels with branching skill choices and a large variety of equippable items. :D

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Ah ok, well, they have the RPG tag so decided to list them, but figured they are very different than the other games listed so had the idea I didn't do it correct.
Sometimes it's hard to decide which genre a game really is because it overlaps a lot, mind explaining me what is needed to call it a real RPG game?

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I think a RPG really needs to be story driven, where how you act & interact with others (i.e. the role you play) propels the story along. I love Diablo-style games (I get waaaay too sucked into them), but it's always bugged me that they've been marketed as action-RPGs, when there are no role-playing elements; only character-building/progression elements.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Guess if you count only that as RPG, a lot of so called RPG games wouldn't count!
That's why I always find it hard to decide what is RPG and what isn't though looking at what games get called RPG nowadays, a lot of people aren't really sure about what is and what isn't.
There aren't that many games where you can really decide what will happen like you described, many games have just choices in looks, skills and gear but that's about it, though I am fine with that, but that kind of lacks the whole RPG part that you described, which can be really fun on it's own!

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II (playing I first heavily recommended).

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Finished both 3 times once as a Jedi, once as a Sith, and once for lolz as Gray Jedi using skills from both and best items but never going either light or dark untill the final choice :P

Scoundrel --> Jedi Sentinel were my choice because of skills and many things I could do and all the immunities :)

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I really enjoyed Risen :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Dare I say it? I really enjoyed Risen 2. Pirate rpgs are scarce and the voodoo path was a hoot.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I remember that I played it for a very short time and somehow lost interest...not sure why :/
Maybe I have to give it a new try someday :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

So long as you don't mind being a figure of fun and getting the stuffing beat out of you in the early game. That put a a lot of people off, but I thought it fit in very nicely with the drunken loser persona of the character :)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

well, my all time favourite genre since the early '90s! =P

  • Final Fantasy (all)
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Riviera
  • Banner Saga (all)
  • Doom & Destiny
  • Neverwinter Nights
  • Pokemon (all, yeah, it's role-playing..)
  • Kingdom Hearts (all, included GBA DS etc)
  • Super Mario RPG (all the franchise)
  • Ys (all)
  • the Advance Wars (the DS ones are awesome too)
  • Breath of Fire (all)
  • Fire Emblem (all)
  • Valykria
  • Nier
  • Disgaea
  • Ogre
  • Witcher ...
  • Icewind
  • Warcraft games for the PC!
  • LOTR
  • Onimusha!!
  • Golden Sun (all of them!)
  • Grandia (don't miss!)
  • the Supergiant games (Pyre, Bastion, Transistor)

Oh well, my list should be way longer, but anyways - my favourite RPGs of all times are by far Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VI and Riviera - The Promised Land, a game no one seems to know.. on Steam if you like turn-based don't miss some NWN, Banner Saga, Doom & Destiny (we Italians are great at everything when we put our efforts into something =P ) there are also masterpieces like Gorky/Odium if you like tactics.. =P

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yess! I finished Ys Book I & II on TurboGrafx at least six times, and twice as Ys Eternal (expanded gameplay and fan-subbed). I haven't played it on Steam yet. Ahh, good memories :D

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

yeah, they're all awesome, even the first ones are great! on steam too =)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Dungeon Siege 1
Dungeon Siege 2
NOX
Sacred 1
Sacred 2
Witcher 1
Witcher 2
Withcer 3
Baldur's Gate 1
Baldur's Gate 2
Planescape Torment
Icewind's Dale 1
Icewind's Dale 2
Lords of the Fallen
The I of the Dragon
The Bard's Tale (2004)
Might and Magic 6,7,8

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Finished all of these games. Some of them more than once ;)

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Here's a few good ones i've played :)

Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age Origins
Star Wars Knights of the old Republic and then adding a mod called Brotherhood of Shadow - Solomons Revenge to make it 100x better.
Star Wars Knights of the old Republic II
Mount and Blade: Warband
Fable Anniversary
Ys I & II Chronicles+

Dungeon Defenders

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Strong RPGs:

  • Witcher 3, the best RPG game I've ever played and the best overall as well.
  • Witcher 1 & 2 were good at the release day, vastly inferior to 3 in every possible way, but still good RPG games.
  • Assassin's Creed II & IV, I didn't play a lot, but from those few I did, I enjoyed those two a lot.
  • Mount & Blade: Warband. Old but gold, still very enjoyable to play, and the mods available are overwhelming.
  • Fallout: New Vegas, the best fallout game I've ever played and the only one from the latests that I've enjoyed (probably has something to do with the fact that Bethesda didn't make that one, ekhm ekhm)

Indie RPGs:

  • CrossCode, I loved everything but the level design, very nice game to play.
  • Costume Quest 1 & 2, more casual, cute RPG game.
  • Undertale, glorious masterpiece as well.

RPG elements (not really RPG games, but worth mentioning due to RPG elements or other factors):

  • Sleeping Dogs, very unique, nice story, overall nice game.
  • Yakuza 0 & Kiwami, I loved the story, much better than im a lot of RPG games above.
5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

After reading all to the titles I remember quit fondly my first rpgs Amberstar and Ultima. Yers, I know they are very old.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Suikoden 5 on PS2, i still hope for a PC port one day...

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

apart from all that was mentioned, well there are these i enjoyed:

  • betrayal at krondor
  • The Last Remnant
  • Deus Ex series
  • Dragon Age: Inquisition
  • mass effect andromeda
  • swtor (i know its an mmorpg but the story is actually more single player and you have 8 different classes with unique story)
  • Borderlands
5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yes !

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Gothic and Gothic II
The graphics and controls didn't age too well, but the way the game world opens up makes it still worth playing them. Gothic III is too big for its own good (and it's too buggy too...).

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Finished I and II and tried III but even with community patch the FPS drops are terrible sadly :(

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

After Gothic, the next step is the Risen series, skipping Arcania.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

CrossCode
Breath of Fire 3
Guardian's Crusade (or the cuter Japanese title Knight and Baby)
Legend of Legaia
Phantasy Star IV
Final Fantasy X, VII and VIII
The Granstream Saga
Ys: Oath in Felghana and Origin
Genso Suikoden
Wild Arms-I was probably one of the few people that felt a spark of happiness seeing that in the PS classic
Megaman Battle Network Series-A really fun unique combat system, playing cards (in the form of chips) combined with moving around and even capturing your opponents territory.
Grandia 1+2-Such epic adventures of games with contrasting super positive and super dark and foreboding tones to them.

Nostalgiac favourite would be Phantasy Star IV, rented that when I was young and played bits then emulated it when older and played
it through when older, big adventure that ties up the quadrilogy, solid combat, lots of fun characters, tragedy and different environments, really solid classic.

I enjoyed Baldurs Gate II as well in terms of CRPGs but didn't really play enough of it at the time.
And it's really a series of mini rpg games but the format of Half Minute Hero was super fun to dip in and dip out of.

5 years ago*
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

omg I played Guardian's Crusade a long time ago and was in love with it, thanks for reminding me of that beauty <3
also I've played Breath of Fire 4, not 3, and it was really good as well
I want to see more of Breath of Fire & Guardian's Crusade T.T

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

All the people who made Guardian's Crusade still work for Tamsoft so they could do something in that vein again, they only make more sexualised games like Senran Kagura, Drive Girls, OneeChanBara, I don't think they'd be able to capture that innocent adventure kind of feeling. And Capcom's idea of a new BOF game is apparently browser based free to play mmorpg that evenyone hates.

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

that's realy sad..
Senran Kagura and the like are a total opposite vibe of Guardian's Crusade, it's probably better to give up on my hope for the sequel..
both are too good to be left behind imo, what a waste :C

5 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Closed 4 years ago by Zarddin.