Do you care to care?
Machinarium Collector's Edition should be this link:
http://store.steampowered.com/bundle/3751/Machinarium_Collectors_Edition/
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Hey SickTeddyBear, I really wish there was a way to link to both the bundle and the sub on the same column. But as we previously talked about this, the RaChart doesn't support linking both. I have to choose one of them and in my opinion it's better to link to the sub since it's more reliable than the bundle. The bundles are rather relative: they are temporary, their contents can be modified by Steam at any point in time and they are not available to all countries due to regional price differences. In my opinion, linking to the sub (even if it doesn't have a store page) is more relevant for people that might visit this thread in a few years, since subs are unlikely to change. Even if they are removed, one can still find them on SteamDB based on the SubId.
For now, I added the link to the bundle in the reviews column. Having a separate column only for this would also be silly, since it would have only 1 entry for the whole chart.
I am open to ideas on how to arrange these things better so that everyone is happy with their charts.
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Because the sub isn't available on the store, it's not on SG. So you can't actually gift it.
Making the max CV from this bundle $133.
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Removed packages or games can always be manually added by staff, if they're informed of the need via an Add Game to List or Other ticket, so that theoretically shouldn't be an issue.
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Good point, should do some tickets when making bundle threads.
The listed CV I usually feel is 'for an ideal world', i.e. assuming everything reasonable is done by the GA creator and SG staff.
Made one now, anyway.
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A small follow-up on this matter:
it seems that it's not possible to add Machinarium CE to the giveaway list, according to this answer from the SG staff.
Which means that the max CV value you can obtain is indeed by making a giveaway of the Soundrack (since this gives full CV) with the key received from the bundle, as stated here. However, this limits the giveaway to people who have the base game already.
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Oh, it's a "+" listing. Yeah, I recall those can't be added- I wasn't aware that was what was being discussed, I apologize for my previous misinformation. Thank you for the clarification, shakti. :)
Something worth noting about your latter point, though-
Staff will, by request, change a giveaway listing while the giveaway is active (to work around situations where base game / DLC entry is locked out due to Steam listing issues). That means you can get staff to agree to a change, post the base game, then message them when you want the giveaway changed to the correct listing.
As winners'll still get what was promised in either version of the listing, you don't even have to involve the entrants in this (though if the giveaway ends before the change, staff may require the winner to leave a comment confirming they did in fact receive the appropriate version of the game before they go through with the change). This not only works to allow only people who don't have the base game to enter for collections, but by making the change early enough before the giveaway's end time, you can actually leave enough time for people to enter for either the base game or DLC, if desired.
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luckz opened a ticket for adding Machinarium Collector's Edition to the giveaway list.
In the meantime, I added separate CVs for Machinarium base game and Machinarium Collector's Edition.
But I am not sure how you got to $133, according to my calculations it's $130. Am I missing something?
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Starbound $14.99
Darkest Dungeon $24.99
Minecraft: Story Mode $24.99
Stardew Valley $2.25
Move or Die $2.25
Duck Game $1.95
Her Story $0.90
She Remembered Caterpillars $11.99
Stronghold Legends $2.25
DreadOut $2.25
Pony Island $0.75
Mighty No. 9 $3.00
Adventures of Van Helsing $2.25
ARMA: Gold Edition $1.50
Grey Goo $4.50
Sorcerer King $2.25
Shadowrun Returns $2.25
Kholat $3.00
Primal Carnage $0.00
Lakeview Cabin $1.50
The Park $12.99
Magicka $1.50
Jump Stars $1.50
Fearless Fantasy $0.00
No Time To Explain $2.25
Psychonauts $0.00
Machinarium Collector's Edition, the soundtrack is unbundled, so if you gifted it that way it'd be $4.99. Total $133.01
Or a total of $129.52 if you count Machinarium as $1.50
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You can't gift the Soundtrack separately, since it's 1 key for Machinarium CE (according to
this).
Unless you specifically gift Machinarium CE as the Soundtrack edition, but in this case only people who have the base game would have access to your giveaway.
Thank you for your reply but in any case, my suggestion would be to wait a bit until Machinarium CE will be added to the list. This way, you can get full CV for it and no one is excluded from the giveaway (apart from the giveaway rules you set, ofc).
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Thanks. I didn't buy it. I'm mostly interested in presenting accurate information. But maybe I was thinking about it weird.
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Ah. Because "bundles" aren't something that's available through API.
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The sub that's sold here sure is, but I guess setting prices (CV) manually is only done on special occasions?
Looks like it's never been sold on the store together, only separately (9.99 + 4.99) or as part of a Amanita Collection..
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The current approach only benefits RaChart users, and detriments everyone (including RaChart users) interested in obtaining any sort of purchasing information from the link. A correction to the RaChart script would be the best option here.
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I can't see there being any benefit in providing broken links
It's not a broken link, it's a package that will appear owned to RaChart customers who own exactly that one package. In a higher-effort world one might want to indent the chart at this stage and list all the apps inside the package, as is sometimes done in more complex situations, but there's only so much you can do while still having the column titles above matching.
Packages can indeed be removed from the store, but they are not removed from Steam, and thus in 100 years after the next best nuclear war they will still appear as owned.
Of course the store bundle, the base app page, or the SteamDB page describing the sub are all valid and useful pieces of extra information to link to - suggestions how to format that in regards to the columns layout are always appreciated.
With most newer games, developers only generate keys for the packages that are also sold on the store, so bundle purchasers and store purchasers usually™ get the same packges, and charts happily light up in colours for all. (In case younger readers wonder - in old times you needed separate packages for Steam Store vs Steam keys.)
[EDIT: the comment I replied to said other things than it does now]
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Assuming https://github.com/Sighery/RaChart/pull/4 is accepted, what information will you want covered for which cases? A flow chart or diagram would be great.
I was thinking if it isn't on the store, but has a matching bundle or similar sub; otherwise app; and maybe linking SteamDB too for everything that isn't on the store?
Dunno if, with all these potential links, it's useful to have a shorthand, i.e. [B] for bundle, [DB] for SteamDB, [S] for sub on the store, [A] for app without extra DLCs, or I don't even know.
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yeah, i guess i can safely skip this one.
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ikr... I own 12 of them myself....
6 are on my wishlist (that I actually want).
If I buy the bundle, 3 I won't activate.. just don't want them.
Will end up gifting over 1/2 this bundle if I get it...
I like the charity choices though. I normally give to 2 of them.
Still worth it (for me), but I'll wait a few days to see how I feel about it later.
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Don't wait too long though, since Darkest Dungeon and Move or Die have limited availability.
(I pretty much only want Starbound, Caterpillars, and maybe Minecraft, own most, and even then with the charity aspect I think the price is fine, but -- I can't afford it anymore after they suckered me into the yearly monthly just before the IGN announcement ;> )
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I have 18 of the games, but of those I don't have, three are on my wishlist and another looks pretty fun, so I think I'll get it.
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If you do plan on getting it, depending on the games, maybe you would like to split the cost?
I'm interested in 3 of them myself.
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I've sent you a friend request on Steam (I don't see a way to message people on here).
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Pricey, but there are decent games there. Shame I have just enough of them to forego the bundle.
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The cv values for the bundled games are incorrect.
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Good bundle for those that missed on many previous bundles.
But, nope, I won't get it just for Minecraft, Duck Game, Stronghold Legends, Mighty No. 9, Primal Carnage and Machinarium.
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Starbound has been bundled before, in a limited/high tier in Humble Bundle 10.
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The exciting story of https://landofthebanned.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/humble-bundle-x-humble-bundle-10-starbound-scam-bait-and-switch/ - one of the first forays into fake BTA values.
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On one hand there are a lot of rebundles - on the other hand, I now have a lot of nice games to gift in the upcoming christmas gibs....
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Many nice games, good charity bundle, but I already have+played+reviewed everything I am mildly interested in this.
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Nope, it's the Definitive Edition. The one you linked can't even be bought from the store any more.
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Yes just like the "Raise of the Tomb Raider" from the monthly which wasn't the "Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration", that's why I'm asking 😉 But if you're sure, I'll believe you 🙂
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All bundled versions of this are the Definitive Edition, it continues here.
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Really want Starbound and Darkest Dungeon, but 30$ for that is almost default steam price x:
Will most likely skip
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I'm in the same boat. I'm been sending out trade requests over on Barter.vg all evening, hoping that this sudden un-rare-ing of Darkest Dungeon will encourage folk to swap, but so far, no one is biting :(
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The value of the game is incredibly high - around $4 to $5 in group buy, and the host keep it in most cases. Outside group buy, I guess its value is even higher, probably around $8 to $10. Normal offer with a few bundled games don't cut it.
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Even though I own most of the games, I bit the bullet today and bought it, primarily for Darkest Dungeon and Starbound, but maybe some of the others will be wee surprise hits ( and I have a friend or two that might like Stardew as a Christmas present! )
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Did get the $30 freedom last time, but don't see myself getting this for just Darkest Dungeon...
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For me it's an easy buy, so many good games.
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Good bundle if you are interested in all the games and don't own any of them already, pretty expensive though.
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That's a terrific bundle, and I don't mind the higher ticket - but I own almost everything in it, alas. If I didn't, I'd be all over it.
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Oh well, i bought it mostly for Starbound and Darkest Dungeon, so why not.
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Decent games, not buying without options for developer/humble tip/humble partner on the payment slider.
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Yeah, we buy games at humble bundle to support charity..
Or maybe because the games are cheap as fuck.
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Well, for some people it sweetens the deal a lot. Although I'm quite short on cash I almost always pay more than required because of this. And since I know many gamers don't care about charity at all and only pay the developers, I don't feel bad about giving the lion's share or even the whole sum to charity.
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I think my email said 100% going to charity.
Yeah:
100% of your payment will go to provide emergency response, medical care, and community rebuilding in the wake of recent natural disasters in Mexico, Puerto Rico, Texas, Florida, and more.
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🎁 Humble Care Package Bundle 🎁
27 games in total
14 November - 20 November
View this bundle on: ITAD - Barter.vg - Lestrades
Tier 1 - $30
☠ - Game was free at some time and does not grant any CV if given away.
⚠ - Limited Availability for: Darkest Dungeon, Move or Die
Chart created with Lex's SG Chart Maker
Retail:
CV:
Machinarium CE cannot be added to the available games to be given away. In order to maximize your CV, you could theoretically make a giveaway of the Machinarium Soundtrack (instead of the base game) for the key received in this bundle (since it activates both), but that would mean restricting the giveaway to people that already own the base game. For more info, check this section of comments.
Charities supported:
Are you interested in knowing other ongoing bundles? Feel free to check out the new master thread!
Wondering what games you already own from this bundle? There's an extension/UserScript for that! It's called the RaChart™ Enhancer!
Thanks to luckz for helping with the poll answers!
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