Bethesda Softworks announces partnership with AMD

Funny fact is, I dropped Fallout 4 after ~160 hours of gameplay simply because I had enough of that shitty optimization of Fallout 4 running on ancient Morrowind engine.

I tried to return back to it multiple times, but game is so awful in various places that I actually don't want to elaborate, since there are people that are enjoying it. I tried Skyrim, I tried F4, and I called Bethesda the worst AAA studio I've ever bought games from. It's really sad since entire 160 hours was me hoping that the game will get better as I progress, but it only got worse. It got so bad that after putting that many hours in it I actually don't want to see ending anymore.

I could rant several hours how those guys have no clue how to develop games and every single thing is unoptimized bugged unholy mess, but I don't know their situation well enough to state what I want to state, so let's say that I just don't like them... A LOT.

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Axelflox

I'm puzzled by the fact that you played 160 hours of a game before deciding to drop it out of frustration, that kinda realization normally comes within a few hours.
I barely played around 10 hours before getting bored in Skyrim.

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JustArchi

Yes, Skyrim case was much shorter - I lasted barely 5 hours with it.

That's also why I wanted to stay calm and be patient when it comes to F4 - ignore how it looks, ignore how it performs, ignore how many bugs I've seen, ignore how unfinished it is, and just focus on plain gameplay. Assume game is flawless and every single thing annoying me is my imagination - many people are enjoying it, so it's probably just me being picky.

And I lost after all, even though I really wanted to finish that one.

I'm just not buying any game developed by Bethesda anymore. Never, ever, again. They can still be publisher though, as long as they do not touch any fuc*ing line of code. I endured many broken AAA games, I'm very respectful as a developer myself, since I can imagine problems, budget, time limit, nearly everything, and I typically enjoy even "bad" games, but Bethesda is the only studio that fills me with anger and pure hate. It's a miracle how bad those games are, and I have no freaking idea why I'm so negative towards it if people are generally positive about their titles - I wanted to believe that there is something wrong with my taste, but at least you're the one who understands me, and confirmed that I'm not a single person going on a crusade against them, thank you ;_;.

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Axelflox

Besides all the technical issues, what I'm really curious about is this: Do you actually like the gameplay, story, setting, or something else that kept you playing for that long?
Because a game can be perfect from a technical standpoint and still be awful, but for you to try so hard to ignore all the bugs and stuff there must be something there that's actually kinda great (I haven't played Fallout 4, or any Fallout at all to be precise).

Oh, seems like you edited your reply while I was writing. I get it now, you thought that you weren't seeing what everyone else was seeing, right?
I felt like that with some games, but then again I never cared that much about droping a game because it doesn't fit my taste.

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JustArchi

Nostalgia. I played every single Fallout from old era, and I KEEP returning back to new Fallouts (3+) since Bethesda started making them, and every single time I launch new Fallout I want from it to be good.

And it happened once! With New Vegas, because Bethesda didn't create that one.

F4 got a really great concept, many things are really nicely done, especially intro is one of the best ones I've seen so far, but this is pretty much where it ends. Now you could ask "then why did you play it for that long" - I don't know myself, I think I got so surprised by quality of the intro that I was sure it'll only get better, so I enjoyed my time until I found out that it's boring, repetitive, without any deeper meaning, dull to some awful scale, and even the main quest I hoped for didn't reach any of my minimal expectations and quickly turned into the same mess just bundled with some dialogues to hide "go to X, clean mess, come back" scheme.

I'll always repeat that Witcher 3 raised my expectations from all RPG games so high that I lost acceptable taste and started expecting from games far more than I should, but F4 is so low in my personal rating of games that it's not simply "did not meet expectations", it's just plain bad, like if I launched Digital Homicide game with a budget and several people working on it for enough time. Technical aspects is one thing that I can ignore to some degree if game is decent - this is what happened in my case, I was hoping for actual gameplay and enjoyment from story, quests, characters, anything - but I met with the same amount of dull and horrible gameplay that I knew from my 5h of Skyrim, and I'd actually say that it's even worse than this.

It's really hard to describe this case - I don't know myself why I played F4 that long if I didn't enjoy it. I think nostalgia and eventual hope for better kept me wanting to play it, but eventually even that got crushed by the awful quality of gameplay that F4 has to offer. It's probably the biggest disappointment in my entire gaming history so far, and I do play a lot. Actually I have no clue if it's me that is broken, or what people see in that game to call it good.

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Axelflox

That's sad, getting your expectations for a new title on a franchise you love crushed is not a nice feeling. I say it a as a sonic fan, nowadays I'm happy if sega poops at least one decent game every 5 or so years.
I have to try New Vegas, I keep hearing good things about it, is even in my "plan to play soon" category on steam... but it shares that list with another 70+ games so god knows when I'll come around to play it.
Don't give up on the hope, maybe the next Fallout won't be a bethesda inhouse developed one, if it happened once it can happen again :)

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JustArchi

I'm not sad today, it's more than a year since I played F4 (and dropped it), so after that long time I have nothing but inner feeling that I just don't want to go back to it, even though I know that I eventually should, since I probably wasn't close from the end... Do it for the story Archi! <_<

There is crapload of really well done games that totally destroyed my expectations (in a good way), such as Witcher 3 that I started playing 3 hours before college "just to see how it looks like", and ended up not going to college for next 2 days. It was worth it.

I believe that eventually we'll get a really good RPG in fallout universe, but it definitely won't be from Bethesda. New vegas was decent, but for the game to be really awesome, we'd need to entirely drop Bethesda and their shitty engine/practices and simply outsource the entire game to another AAA studio that could have a permission to create a game in fallout universe. This probably won't happen anytime soon - even if New Vegas is really decent, I can still smell a lot of Bethesda in that title and clearly see what was done by actual engineers, and what was "borrowed" from Bethesda and their (bad) fallout 3.

Oh well, at least I can always start my 3rd playthrough in Witcher 3, or finish that damn Darkest Dungeon I went totally crazy about since last 2 weeks. In fact, I could spend another few hours writing arguments why Witcher 3 is the best RPG game I've ever played in my life, but nobody would be interested in reading that, so if you want my advice what to put on top of your 70 games backlog, it's Witcher 3, if you didn't play it yet. Bethesda could learn EVERYTHING from CDPR how to make good RPG games, I'm not even sure if there will ever be any RPG game that I'll find even better than W3, I secretly hope that Cyberpunk 2077 will be at least as good as W3, that would be another glorious masterpiece I'll get hooked into without wanting to stop :3.

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Axelflox

I don't own the Witcher 3, I want to play the witcher 2 first and maybe the witcher 1 too. And my backlog is too large for the incredible slow pace at which I play games, I can barelly tackle 2 or 3 games per month so it'll take me over 2 years to get through just the top priority part of my backlog.

7 years ago

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Tristar

how unfinished it is

no mods to fix that?

7 years ago

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squall831

Cannot avoid thinking in Dishonored 2 such a beautiful game, in many ways, and it is flawed by its performance and random bugs.

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kapy

At the end I play fallout 4 with literally 50% of the minimum req. with AMD GPU and 30-60 FPS... Meanwhile hardly running witcher 2 with 20 FPS on the lowest settings.

7 years ago

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MbahRyuki

So the next Elder Scrolls / Fallout will use Vulkan API ?

7 years ago

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Incariuz

This is good to hear. Hopefully more developers will take up Vulkan.

7 years ago

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