How can I reach out to the owner for an apology, which i already sent on SG, but who probably blocked me on all channels?
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Hello Prosac, due to the group being relaxed when it comes to accepting new members, it also has a strict rule when it comes to reaching -$200. I asked you to not enter any GAs until your value difference is fixed or you will be kicked, and that was ignored.
I hope this clarifies my decision, thank you.
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I know, tragically I was the one who suggested this rule, which was meant as a measure against real leechers, which I'm not, having 31 sent GAs by the time I was kicked and even fixed my group balance just 2 days later with my already running GAs to about -99$, something a leecher also doesn't to.
I want to apologize again for not following your orders, but I guess there are no second chances.
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As I was saying:
I asked you to not enter any GAs until your value difference is fixed or you will be kicked, and that was ignored. I thought my simple request of not entering a GA is easy enough. Just don't click on the "enter" button.
Thank you.
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I know and I'm really sorry about it, it won't happen again. I really loved to be in your group and it was a very bad decision of mine, being also in a bit of a bad mind state by that time.
My intention behind this was to lower my win ratio, not to sneak up any more wins, which I didn't.
I would be really happy to do more GAs, because i got fresh money for this month, and to fix my group balance even more.
Sorry
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Please stop spamming this thread and just accept you not getting back in. You're making everyone very uncomfortable
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Who are you to decide this?
I reached out to Pat in an old GA, but she decided to talk here.
I think everyone earns a second chance, especially here on SG, where everyone is talking about the nice and friendly community.
I have good stats in several other groups, which I'm member for several years and being judged on single incidents?
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"I didn't break the rules in other groups - but I'm no longer allowed in this group just because I broke the rules here?!"
Yes, that is generally to be expected.
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Well, I was already judged about bad single incidents in other groups (which happened by the same time), so I also wanted to mention my good performance in other groups for several years, which was conveniently left out.
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Firstly - if the incidents are plural, seems like a stretch to keep calling them "single".
Secondly, of course it was left out.
"You're trying to judge me for robbing the bank, and you don't even mention the dozens of banks I never robbed! What's wrong with you people?! I just wanted to increase my cash ratio!"
Dragging this out is not making you look more innocent. Let it go man.
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I think your example is a bit unfitting, but let's go with it.
No one, who ever robbed a bank, was sentenced to burn in eternal hell.
There's something called resocialization in our judiciary, which is a second chance.
Also are sentences judged by remorse, apology and your background, at least it's working like this here.
And I didn't wanted to increase something and sneaking up wins from the group.
So, I robbed the bank without the intention to take anything.
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My example is unfitting - but ignoring a clear warning and thus being banned from a group is equivalent to being "sentenced to burn in eternal hell". Right.
You kept entering giveaways after being told not to, because your win ratio stats told you that you'd been unlucky, and the site owed you some more wins, but you "didn't intend to take anything". Sure.
Keep arguing. You're probably just 7 or 8 more posts away from Pat realising that she was wrong about you all along.
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I love this nice and friendly community on SG, everyone is talking about. /s
You kept entering giveaways after being told not to, because your win ratio stats told you that you'd been unlucky, and the site owed you some more wins, but you "didn't intend to take anything". Sure.
Anymore unfounded assumptions?
I won a shitload of GAs recently, everyone can see it on my profile page, how could I be still unlucky then?
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Where is the assumption?
You already said in your other post, the explanation for your behaviour was because you looked at your win ratio on the stats page and wanted to "lower your ratio". You kept entering giveaways after being told not to. What can that mean except that you have won "fewer than expected" and wanted to win some more and "take" those games?
You say that you're posting to apologise and show how remorseful you are, yet you keep trying to paint yourself as having done nothing wrong. You can't have it both ways.
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What can that mean except that you have won "fewer than expected" and wanted to win some more and "take" those games?
It means the exact opposite, but I think you already judged me and it's pretty pointless to discuss with you.
You say that you're posting to apologise and show how remorseful you are, yet you keep trying to paint yourself as having done nothing wrong. You can't have it both ways.
I didn't do that, I know I made a mistake, but by doing it I didn't went wild, joining GAs left, right and center. I had the opportunity to join several GAs with only one entry, I didn't joined them, because I didn't wanted to sneak up wins or force people to reroll.
All I'm trying to say is, you're judging me like I did something very horrible, when it was much less horrible.
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It's not that I've "already judged you", but that your words imply an intention which you keep insisting isn't the case.
Pat's second post here pointed out that you were given the simple instruction to not enter giveaways before fixing your value difference. You instead entered more giveaways.
You responded that you made that decision because you were sad, and also because your intention was to "lower you ratio".
The first part makes some sense, the second makes none... It was very unclear what you meant by "lower your ratio", if entering giveaways can help you achieve that.
You now seem to be confirming that you have won lots of giveaways recently, and so to "lower your ratio" must mean to give away more games, to balance out those wins. But that does not explain a decision to enter giveaways after being told not to. Entering giveaways can only result in winning more games, which would have the opposite effect of what you're saying was your intention.
I fail to see the relevance that you didn't enter every giveaway you could have. You were told to enter none. If you entered them but "didn't want to win" as you have said, then you certainly did make an odd decision to ignore Pat's condition for staying in the group with the hopes of not being lucky.
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You know, if a sentence is followed by a ",but" you can automatically cross out the words which were said before.
You know my intentions better than I do? uhm sorry?
I'm sorry, if my words with lowering ratio didn't made sense, but you're the first one telling me that. No one asked before and everyone was just being very judgemental.
You now seem to be confirming that you have won lots of giveaways recently, and so to "lower your ratio" means to give away more games, to balance out those wins.
No, i think i was always speaking of my win ratio, not my CV ratio, but I also said that I would be very happy to create more GAs for RGG to fix my group balance even more, from -99$ into the positives, which I am at in most of my groups. I was low on money last month, due to some expenses, but got fresh money this month to spend.
Edit: And before anyone is doubting my words again, I had 31 keys given away by the time of the kick and fixed my group balance with 6 keys, overall given value of about 400$ i think or even more assuming the usual game has 20 points and which probably makes me one of the top gifters of the group and shows, that I'm eager to create GAs. I know, I also won much.
Entering giveaways can only result in winning more games, which would have the opposite effect of what you're saying was your intention.
It can have that effect, because first you don't win GAs automatically, especially when you are very lucky being at +9 and second, won GAs aren't automatically redeemed on your Steam account, users may have been warned or me could have simply refused the GA, telling them I'm no longer in the group and they should ask for a reroll.
You see this can work very well and did.
I fail to see the relevance that you didn't enter ever giveaway you could have.
Well, in my opinion it makes a difference, because it shows that my intention wasn't to win something, otherwise I would have entered one entry GAs on the last minute or so, right? I didn't and I didn't annoyed people, who were aware of my kick with rerolls.
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Wait - when talking about the ratio, you're saying that you've won too many games recently, and that is the explanation for why you kept entering giveaways? You're unfathomable.
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It's the explanation for wanting to lower my win ratio and probably the reason, why I didn't won anything and people weren't forced to reroll.
But let me give you numbers, to refute your assumption.
My max. this month was somewhat of about +9 and i managed it to lower it to almost 0 the 2 days is was entering group GAs here and there, which I shouldn't have done.
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I know English isn't your first language, and maybe that is the issue here, because I cannot find any sense at all in what you are saying.
Your explanation for why you entered giveaways after being told not to is because... You had won too many games this month? You had not won enough games this month? Wut?
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You're still assuming, that I wanted to sneak up wins from the group.
Try to take this out of your equation and maybe my words make sense.
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And suddenly all the people who blacklisted me are showing up
The justice system was just an example, social interactions usually work that way, but you said it, gamers, some being just basement dwellers.
I never just simply begged, I apologized multiple times and explained my reasons, that's my way to rebuild trust, but I guess you know better ways to do this on an online site, right?
Prior to this message, our only interaction was you posting negativity on multiple of my giveaways.
From my POV it wasn't negativity, I wanted to explain things. It was also just a reaction to an action, where i was treated unfair and where I tend to overreact. Everyone can have a bad time, you're acting like judging a robot.
I'm sorry, if that made you feel uncomfortable, I would have said sorry and would have stopped, but you've chosen to blacklisted me right away.
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When somebody who has been kicked from a group refuses to stop entering giveaways, you need to blacklist them to prevent them from doing so. It's not a conspiracy, it's what your behaviour demanded.
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You can also request a reroll, instead of blacklisting them and forget about it later, but I slowly get the feeling of the nice community everyone is talking about.
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Or, you could stop entering giveaways after being kicked. But sure, we're all big old meanies. You're a tragic victim of an evil vendetta.
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Well, i definitely stopped by now. It was 2 bad days opposite to several good years and guess after what some people judge you.
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Honestly, I agree that it's a shame that I've been using the site for over 8 years and regularly saw you, but never saw any need to blacklist you, and now this has happened.
This has become about much more than the original infraction(s). The way you've handled yourself since then, in this thread and elsewhere, has cemented your reputation for a lot of people in both of the groups in question, myself included.
Yet you keep digging. Nothing good can come of it.
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I think there are more than 10-20 people in both groups, so I have to count with 200 more blacklists the next days?
Or are you just a bit bigmouthed speaking for "most of the people"?
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I'm confused by this comment - you were already over the limit, but you intentionally wanted to "lower your win ratio" by entering more giveaways? And that's a justification? I can't follow your logic at all.
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I was over the limit at the time I was kicked, but had running GAs, which I didn't deleted after the kick. They went through and put my group balance to about -99$ and I want to improve that.
Sorry, misunderstanding, I'm talking about the win ratio on the stats page (you won more or less than expected), which has nothing to do with the group.
It's not ment as justification, I know I made a mistake, it's ment as explanation, why I did it.
Look, I'm not a divine being, I'm a human who tends to make mistakes and learn from them, so I generally grant people a second chance.
I'm well aware of my mistakes and said sorry multiple times and asked for forgiveness, that's all I can do
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Prosac,
You were one of the people I trusted here on SG. You were even on my whitelist, you helped me with some advices for the group and it did hurt me when I asked for a simple request of not entering GAs. You broke my trust. Then when I was about to give you a chance, I accidentally stumbled across a GA you posted while trying to find where my warning comment is, a user defaming someone by using inappropriate language and the fact that you agreed with them by saying "Indeed" and deleted it to avoid suspension, it made me change my mind and not give you a chance anymore. Please let us drop this issue and move on with our lives.
This is not negotiable, I am done with all of this.
Thank you.
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Well, maybe I'm just a bit of a torn person, sorry for breaking your trust.
I'm a bit confused about the GA you mentioned you've found. I'm not aware of deleting any message recently, especially with "Indeed" and/or to avoid suspension.
I would really like to know. And how do you know I wrote Indeed, when it was deleted? Can you shed some light on this please?
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Hello,
You are probably expecting an answer... And then say you are getting ghosted because of no answer etc...
So I will just provide short feedback/answer...
They saw the message and then when they went back in some time it was deleted as simple as that. (it's not like the memory of seen meesage gets deleted...)
Rules are in place to be followed and not to be broken and if you break a rule you have to deal with the consequence..
Maybe you deserve a second chance (in the future) but trust and forgivness is earned in time not in couple of days. So just show up as an upstanding citizen and in time it will change.
Not sure if anyone said it already but let's make it clear from now on you will not get answers/respones (can't help if someone does respond but you need to expect no answer), you will get ghosted and don't cry about getting ghosted as this is the right thing to do...
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You are probably expecting an answer...
Well, in my opinion this should be basic courtesy, especially when I don't know of such an incident she mentioned. That's all I'm asking now, because with every passing day I care less about the kick and everything was already discussed.
They saw the message and then when they went back in some time it was deleted as simple as that. (it's not like the memory of seen meesage gets deleted...)
But I'm not aware of having deleted any message recently. So could it be a mix-up?
but trust and forgivness is earned in time not in couple of days.
Or everyone goes their way and you'll simple be forgotten or the reasons will be forgotten and you will be denied in the future, because there were reasons in the past nobody can remember.
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Can I join? Or did I already join? I can't recall? Someone post the facts gif.
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
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thank you!
EDIT: sent a friend request on Steam, would like to join discord but the link is expired
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May I also join?
I’ve sent a request to join the group.
I believe I’ve read and understood the group rules carefully, but since I’m using Google Translate, please feel free to correct me if I’ve misunderstood anything.
Thank you in advance!
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
Don't worry, I will let you know if you misunderstood anything :)
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Hiding the drama one bump at a time. So Burp!
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This is an excellent group, and there is still a strong capacity to grow (126/200 members now), bump for recruitment 💚
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This is my favorite group right now and it deserves more good people, bump!
And if you abuse our trust - we'll find you ⓪_⓪
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Hello! Can I join the group? I agree with the rules, I have sent the request.
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Hello, Im quite conflicted on accepting your request. Lots of games that you posted does not abide by our rules.. do you have any other games you can offer if accepted to the group? Thank you
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I agree not to publish games with fake prices, with few reviews, and with regional restrictions. For example, is it possible to create giveaway with such games?: https://store.steampowered.com/app/487370/Akin/
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Im not sure if you are gonna get entries for that. This group seems to have low average entries
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OK, if you are not satisfied with the latest games from my account and this one from the link, then I cancel the request. Maybe I'll write a request later when I'm giveaway other games. Thanks for the reply.
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Not that im not satisfied. I was just letting you know haha. You can go ahead and request again. You did agree not to post such games that are against the rules. :)
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Ok, I sent the request again, I probably didn't quite understand you, but yes, I agree with the rules, and if there are no participants on any of my giveaways, I will create other giveaways with other games.
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Okay. So sorry for this but the group saw your request and it became group consensus that we will decline your application. Sorry for the trouble. Thank you.
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If i wouldnt own it i would be the first one to enter. Puzzle games are cool! :P
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Hi I would like to join group, originally I wanted to trade my HB Choice leftovers, but being busy it's likely I won't get to it. So this might be more relaxed way of dealing with it.
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
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I would like to join if possible, I mostly play casual and chill games
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
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Posted new invite only GAs for discord members :)
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Hello, is there any other games you can offer the group? I noticed yours are mostly 0cv or less than 50 reviews and im a bit concerned.
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Hey, i had a look at the first page of my created giveaways, and it is a little more than 50% of no CV games. But i have other games i can offer that are more from the Humble/Fanatical bundles.
Also my no CV games are at least real games (even if maybe sometimes old), not trash from givee or sites like that :)
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I was on my phone when I did my last check. Anyways, I took at look with my PC (easier). You can send a request :) https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RLXGG
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
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Hello. You can send a request :) https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RLXGG
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Hello. I¨m interested to join a new group
I have lots of game keys ready to gift.
I have given games in many other groups for many years and maintained value ratio carefully in them.
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Hello. You can send a request :) https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RLXGG
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
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Hello. You can send a request :) https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RLXGG
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Hello, please make sure to read the rules. I have accepted your request :) please post a GA and wait for it to end before entering any of our GAs and for your July monthly. Welcome!
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Keep making giveaways. Level 2 is really easy to get, don't give up :)
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Relaxed Discord offers... memes, mayhem, and mildly questionable decisions at 2AM.
Not a cult, but we do have snacks. Probably.
Lovely Bump for lovely people <3
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Hello! I am inviting you to join my group that would have 200 members max. Currently we have 124/200 members.
It's for people who are looking to find a group with more lenient rules here in SG. Game collectors are welcome too.
SG Group link: https://www.steamgifts.com/group/wUM7Q/rlxgg
Steam Group link: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RLXGG
Please comment below if you requested, I have to check your SG stats before accepting. Auto-reject if you don't comment here first. (I don't want to have to find you on SG so I can look at your profile.)
Here are the rules and requirements:
Let me know in the comments if you have any suggestions as this is the first group I have made.
I will check your profile first before I let you in the group to make sure your record are good, to avoid leechers.
Thank you very much and have a nice day!
P.S. I am a bit busy so please be patient for the reply.
Our discord server also has bonuses like invite only GAs, The Breakfast Club (real ratio is 1.0 or if I trust you), and VIP invite only GAs (for good standing members.) SG moderators who join the server will get these roles in my server for their service to the SG community.
Discord invite-only giveaways this month:
We also do random $5 CAD wheel of names GA on discord :D
Every 1st of the month, I will randomize from the group top 20 wishlisted games and I will post that one randomized chosen game that ends every 28th of the month as a bonus for being a member.
Note: The group will pause on accepting new members every 21st to 28th of each month to avoid leechers winning the bonus GA. Applications will be accepted after the 28th.
Bonus GA:
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