I have noteiced on Real Cv's website (SGTools)
that some of the value of CV is not correct and
I was hoping it did not reflect what was in my CV
Total on here.

Some of the problems i have seen include:
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (1 Copy) (0$ Total) (Public giveaway) - should it not have given me some cv
it says it was only bundled and not free at any point
https://barter.vg/i/157592/

KungFu Kickball (1 Copy) (0$ Total) (Whitelist giveaway) - says it was free at some point
but nowhere on Barter does it say it was free -where i thought it was unbundled so full CV and not 0
https://barter.vg/i/86750/

Are priviate game giveaways rated different to public ones because:
i got Ball Fall (7 Copies) (0.513434105865$ Total) (Public giveaway)
and then sometime after i got Ball Fall (8 Copies) (1.11585$ Total) (Group giveaway)

Also Handball 17 (1 Copy) (1.5$ Total) (Private giveaway) but it was again looking on barter never bundled
https://barter.vg/i/27678/?

Maybe others have seen similar problems and maybe (i think i will have) many more of these

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KungFu- Kickball:
Historical Low Steam on 2020-03-20 0% off 0,00€

Handball 17 had -90% price on steam.
0,99€ from original 9,99€

When the game is worth <15% original value is treated as bundled.
You can see an asterisk (*) after the title when you select the game from the list and it's not fully valued.

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KungFu Kickball is zero value with a start date of 2022 February so that's not the reason. Also according to my understanding direct Steam giveaways generally don't put games on the zero value list because you can't get keys or giftable copies from those promos.

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i thought it only counted if you could get a key for free not on Steam

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"When the game is worth <15% original value is treated as bundled."

Actually that's not true. I remember an old version of FAQ naming the threshold as 95% off, nowadays the FAQ is less declarative. But you still can freely give away a game that was a 90% off unbundled and get full value. This happened with Undungeon quite a lot. The 15% you speak of is how much CV the game gives, but this isn't a 1:1 conversion to market value

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As you can see, KungFu Kickball has been free on Steam so that's why I guess?

Also remember that if you do a private/group giveaway and get less than 5 entries, you won't get any CV either, no clue if that is applied to yours though...

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SGTools is third party tool, and data it shows may be not in sync with steamgifts. Usually it's resolved after next SGTools database update, but sometimes it worth reporting to sgtools developer.

Next thing is that steamgifts don't rely on barter for detecting free/bundled games. Game may be marked as bundled if it was sold extremely cheap (less than 5% from base price) in any shop and for any region. Furthermore, game can even be marked as free if it's "sold" extremely cheap, like if game worth 10$ is sold somewhere on gray market for 1¢ per key - it will be marked as free,

Are priviate game giveaways rated different to public ones because:

The difference is not because one is public and another is not, it's because after first 5 copies of same game you are getting less CV with every given away copy. So, giveaway that was done later will have less CV. That's normal and documented behavior of steamgifts.

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yes i get that but i got more for the 7 copies than i did for a 81 copy giveaway i did for it before hand

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That's, for sure, a glitch in SGTools and needs to be reported to knsys. It must be because previously SGTools calculated CV from oldest giveaways to newest, then there was an option, and now it seems to always calculate from newest to oldest. It's more convenient to view, but because of that it shows incorrect CV for multiple-copy giveaways. It's not a big deal, since total CV won't be affected, but still a bug and worth reporting.

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thank you very much

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Sometimes barter known more, sometimes sg know more.

When i see something that isn't listed in barter i inform someone from there about it and they can then dig deeper into it why sg and barter show a difference.

In the most cases had sg additional infos (other sources of a freebie as example a Magazine or Raffle) and barter changed then their infos that it is listed there too.

I would not describe that stuff as "problems". Tiny bits of cv that is, maybe, wrong calculated. Maybe only for a short time.

Ps.: I checked my tickets for the 3 listed games/DLC and can say, i don't done tickets for this ones.

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thanks - i thought it was a problem but guess not

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Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC is reduced CV on Steamgifts, not zero CV. Unless it was fixed here just now the problem seems to be with SGTools' database on that one.

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thanks

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how about this Need for Speed™ Heat yes this game has no value, it's an AAA game but why is it worthless in SG..?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1222680/Need_for_Speed_Heat/

Maybe your game was bundled in the past, but is it possible for AAA games to be bundled or free?

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yes plenty of times aaa+ games have been in bundles or free (can't say myself why this does not have CV) - maybe someone else can help

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