Hypocrisy or How you choose to blacklist someone?

I think I'm doing it wrong >_>

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First rule of SG: Don't talk about blacklisting.

Rule #2: Blacklist anyone who doesn't follow rule #1

Just kidding but happens for real though. My blacklist has reached the massive level of zero.

I'm pretty sure some users blacklist others just because they can.
As to how they think they can justify it, it can be literally anything.

Controversial opinions? Freedom of speech is a thing only as long as THEY benefit from it. Blacklisted.
Anything can be a "controversial opinion", even with something as simple as "the sky is blue" or "fire is hot", somebody is bound to disagree with it.
Heck, there're still people who believe the Earth is flat and the Sun circles it, and that vaccines cause autism.

Low amount of giveaways? Low ratio? Too many wins? A mix of one or more of these?
Blacklisted. "Generous gifters" don't like filthy leechers. Even though they're the ones who gave them that sweet sweet CV that let their level rise.

Too many freebies? Too much shovelware? Not enough AAAs? Blacklisted.
Some users don't like bundle trash. Unless they're the ones farming it en masse to inflate their e-peens (CV and number of gifts sent ).

You won a AAA giveaway?
Blacklisted. Someone wanted to add it to their dusty collection, and never touch it again, 'cause all they ever play is CSGO/DOTA2/TF2/PUBG/whatever).

You didn't send a key 3 seconds after space cat appeared?
Blacklisted, 'cause they NEED their stuff, and quick (gotta farm fast, before market values drop and they lose profitz).

If it's not that, they might dislike your nickname, your avatar, your country, your friends, your groups, your pets, the games you play, what you ate for breakfast...
Whatever you do, say, or think (heck, you don't even need to do, say, or think anything) there'll always be someone who thinks they're "holier than thou".

TL;DR: if you're registered on Steam Gifts, you WILL be blacklisted. Sooner or later. It's somewhat of a rite of passage.

At least blacklists are bidirectional now, so if someone blacklists you, they're prevented from entering your giveaways.
And the moment that changed, it's when we really got to see who the real hypocrites were...

And then, there're the legit (and semi-legit) reasons, like rule breakers, spammers, leakers, ungrateful winners, autojoiners, and so on.
Another practice that's more widespread than it should, is blacklisting winners, so that other users have more chances in the next giveaways.

My criteria for blacklistling users, was that it was a list of users who I wouldn't want to gift games to, and this obviously included a lot of rule breakers, at least until I realized that the limit of one thousand entries would never be enough, and level restrictions make for a much better blacklist when most are low level.

Group and invite giveaways also help cutting off a good amount, since most don't even bother stepping outside of public giveaways.
For everyone else, there's still the blacklist, though it's almost empty, because, at this point, I honestly don't care enough anymore.
I just report users when needed, and let support do their magic.
So much hard work for free, and they constantly get bashed, they're really the heroes we need but don't deserve.

Let me check my blacklist... Wait, impossible, it's empty! ☮

I never put anyone to blacklist, but i got 3 unknowns user's blacklist and i don't know why, is my low vocabulary the cause ? (i have a medium knowledge from english language)

or is just a a person who's got blacklisted everyone? hahaha

Long comment incoming! Scroll past while you still can.

What makes an "open mind" and whether an open mind is even a good or moral thing is a fun topic of discussion. I think it's worth reading up on Karl Popper's paradox of tolerance. The TL;DR is that if people are promoting an intolerant society (e.g. a society where races are segregated), it doesn't make sense to try to "tolerate" their viewpoint because it'll just lead to them destroying any semblance of tolerance when they gain political power. So to protect a broadly just and safe society, sometimes you have to put your foot down.

This is important for e.g. refusing to harbor people who promote harmful conspiracy theories or violence against [insert segment of humanity.] It's more of a grey area when it's just someone saying intolerant things, because that can be allowed within reason. But I generally agree with where Popper draws the line, i.e. at the people who aren't even willing to rationally argue for their intolerant viewpoint and anyone who tries to escalate intolerance to the point of violence.

Anyways, the general morality of open-mindedness and my blacklisting policies are two entirely separate things, because SG giveaways are personal, not political. So! I generally blacklist for the broad category of "being a jerk." Often that comes down to -isms. (Racism, sexism, classism, and some that don't fit the naming pattern like anti-LGBTQ stuff.) If the person seems more misinformed/ignorant than malicious/deliberately hurtful, I try to be more flexible.

For me, it's actually less a matter of not wanting to give people games and more of a matter of making sure I don't receive gifts from them. It's my policy to leave a sincere, enthusiastic thank you whenever I win a game. I don't really want to accidentally be put in the position of doing that with someone who thinks that I (or people I care about) are somehow stupid, subhuman, dishonest, or unworthy of respect simply for being who we are. There's no way I could leave a happy, grateful message at that point without it being fake, you know?

I'm going to guess the comment you were blacklisted for was this one: "I don't care about genders. I know what I am, and I know there are two genders - open-mindedness is good up to a certain point when it becomes tomfoolery and abuse of the existing system and democracy."

In short, that's something I'd blacklist you for normally; not because of the opinion ("there are only two genders" is something a lot of people believe because it's so entrenched culturally, and I'm happy to talk people through it when they're open to trying to understand), but because of how you framed your opinion. If you're interested in why I can break it down for you, but otherwise I'll leave this comment as-is because it's already far too many words long.

Getting blacklisted for posting about being blacklisted is very common.

In general, I'd say that blacklisting is bad, and one of the reasons this community is worse than it once was. That said, people are free to blacklist whomever the choose, based on whatever criteria, just like they're free to whitelist for whatever reason. Most of the times I got whitelisted or blacklisted were because people agreed or disagreed with me. It's the equivalent of thumbs up/down on other sites.

And yes, that's reason enough to blacklist someone. If I like you and want to add you to my whitelist so you have a chance at special giveaways, I can dislike you and not want you to win stuff from me. It's perfectly legitimate either way. As I said, I think it's a pity that this feature exists, but as long as it does and people are using it, choosing not to gift to you because I don't like you is a good enough reason.

Personally even when I gifted (haven't done that for a few months; haven't entered giveaways for a few years) I never whitelisted or blacklisted anyone, nor made any giveaways that weren't level 0, though I did make some private giveaways, such as to the forum, and some group giveaways, to Unlucky-7 and the like. Most people on SG do pick and choose who to gift to, and even I have my criteria (I'd rather that my games go to people who haven't won a lot or those who play their wins). Blacklisting is just one way to do that, and valid as any other method.

Well as im sure everyone has said already this is just a website and people have the right to blacklist anyone for anything. Whether its different views or comments or even things that may happen outside the website. In the end does it even matter though?

Two groups

Those who blacklisted me first because why not
That one person who spams religious slogan on giveaways (hope to win this with the help of god... or satan, toaster, potato, whatever is their fetish)

Blacklist what is this? o.O

The point is we usually treat a blacklist like some kind of penalty while in reality it is just somebody's opinion. I think we could be less defensive about it and instead acknowledge it as a kind of feedback. We can use it to improve ourselves or ignore it if we decide it won't improve us in any way.

I'd only blacklist someone if they were attacking anyone

On this site is either blacklists because your opinion doesn't match the majority of the site or because your opinion doesn't match mine personally.
Summing up, because blacklists because they want and/or can. Simple as that.

You don't need to choose, when you don't actually use it

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Long time ago I decided I won't blacklist people. I found out that it makes them more "important" in my thoughts if I actually make the (even smallest) effort to add them to some list and that's the opposite I want for such cases. I'd rather forget them.
So I only keep a whitelist which of course isn't written is stone. Makes more sense to me to "reward" someone.

In the past, I blacklisted people for not acknowledging wins, accounts that had won an insane amount without giving, and those that seemed to be bots. A few months ago, I looked through my blacklist and saw that a lot of the people had been banned or hadn't been on for years, so I just cleared it. My blacklist now stands at zero.
It's still kind of annoying when there's no communication after a win, but I avoid this to some extent by making most of my giveaways level 4/5+, groups giveaways, or private giveaways in discussion posts.
When users troll a lot, post a lot of attention seeking or controversial posts I just hide them using the ESGST extension. Life's too short to get annoyed by people you'll never meet posting things on the internet! I hide the number of blacklists I'm on too, ignorance is bliss :)

Honestly, the only reason I've ever blacklisted anyone is because they won one of my games and either didn't claim it or were such a huge pain when they did that I never wanted to deal with them again.
I guess I'm just not much of a blacklist kind of guy. My whitelist is pretty big though, and I do occasionally give some nice stuff as whitelist-only.

I got blacklisted twice in the last few days and I have no idea why...but I also don't really care, I barely even enter giveaways anyway and whatever reason it may be that I've been blacklisted, if it's for a good reason, then sure go ahead, if it's for no reason whatsoever, sure go ahead ^^
Also my blacklist has been empty for years.

I used to blacklist people that were just being dicks in general. But I just removed all my blacklist because I think they should get a second chance. I myself am blacklisted by 31 people. I used to break some rules I think and got so many at once. Made me comment way less. Haven't gotten a single blacklist in 2 years. But who knows, maybe someone will blacklist me now.

You obviously need to blacklist and ignore and ban and otherwise remove all opinions that differs from your own, otherwise you could not build your perfect little echochamber.

Meh, I gain at least one when I am not "progressive enough"

I've only seen one person that deserves to be blacklisted... threatening with violence is a no go in my book.
I tend to find the rest of the stuff that goes on here as... Meh, who cares.

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I usually don't blacklist people, so far I've only done it 3 times, during those almost 5 years of my stay here. I can usually just accept that everyone has different opinions on everything, hence I don't just instantly blacklist people who have different beliefs than me. However, when I see someone who is being excessively intolerant, purposefully abstains from trying to understand any opinion different than theirs while saying theirs is superior to any other opinion in existence, and/or even just goes and starts to insult anyone who does not agree, I use my blacklist. I also know it matters next to nothing, but it somehow helps me preserve my inner peace that when I create a giveaway, it has more chance to get to a good, non-toxic person.