The discussion was created the day before Putin's Russian invasion of Ukraine. It is an ongoing event, and older posts might not be relevant anymore


💙 Ukraine launched a humanitarian aid website and a platform for donations

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⚔️ War monitoring, assessment & independent analytics

Understanding what is happening in the battlefield day by day.


📢 Documents, reports & statements

Highlights from governments, intergovernmental and non-governmental organizations, courts, agencies, research institutions, etc.


Pro-Kremlin media and bot factories produce unimaginable multitudes of disinformation

Fact-checkers & open source intelligence (OSINT) teams debunking disinformation

Verified signatories of the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) code of principles among others.


The letter from an alleged FSB agent to human rights project Gulagu.net --> independent check for authencity by Christo Grozev

Telegram channels about the situation within Ukraine:

  1. Ukraine Now --> the official Telegram channel of Ukraine with government-endorsed content; also available in other languages
  2. Труха⚡️Украина / Труха⚡️Харьков --> independent Telegram channel from Kharkiv with user-submitted videos
  3. Мариуполь сейчас 🇺🇦 --> independent Telegram channel from Mariupol with videos from within the city; affiliation is unknown

▶️ Collection of video materials, sorted by theme and date

Not updated anymore as of Apr 14 2022.


Feb 23 2022: Original post

As a Russian-speaking Ukrainian currently living in Poland, I have a complicated relationship with my home country. I have relatives and friends hailing from Russia; half of my family speaks Russian. Everybody in my school in Kyiv (i.e. Kiev) spoke Russian back in the early 2000s. It is true, there are millions of Russian-speaking Ukrainians. But just so you know, Ukraine is not a part of Russia; it was not created by fucking Lenin. Many Ukrainians have never been and do not want to go to Russia or be its part. The language vs. culture question is absurd. The Russian language was forced upon Ukrainians for centuries, and still, Ukrainians are different culturally. The mad tsar Putin is literally a blackmailer who imposes fear and anxiety on the entire Ukrainian nation. Everyone I know back in Kyiv prepares alarm briefcases with water and medicines, just in case of bombing, or plans to move, as I did after 2014. This is a fucking nightmare. I have anxieties of my own; I cannot stand this shit anymore. Please! This is an awareness thread. You have to know.
Ukraine is not Russia and does not want to be a part of it!

A humble train with some games made in Ukraine --> <<here>>.

Feb 24 2022: Update

It happened. Russia invades Ukraine with another idiotic pretext of 'liberating'. To all the people who support Putin, you are accomplices of yet another crime and ensuing killings. You are responsible. Sleep well with that in mind.


🗺️ Status of border checkpoints

The State Customs Service of Ukraine: queues at border checkpoints with neighboring countries.

🗺️ Refugees from Ukraine arriving in Poland, keep these links around. Polish citizens who want to help, read how

Total refugee influx from Ukraine to Poland - 3,524,205; Ukrainians entering Ukraine - 2,086,500 (23 May 2022).


🛑 No to ethnic hatred

Please refrain from any form of ethnic hatred.


🛑 Russian Anti-War Committee

The Russian Anti-War Committee was created in order to oppose this bloody war – to develop a common position, to help people coordinate their efforts, and to resolve the enormous number of problems that have arisen because of Putin’s aggression.


Don't Fund War

A comprehensive list of companies that still operate in Russia, financing its war against Ukraine.


🕹️ Games that you can buy and donate for Ukraine

aquatorrent's list of games from developers that donate some part of their proceeds to aid the people of Ukraine (and other news).


Giveaway Charity Commentary
Chernobylite Red Cross Ukraine Donation through Gamesplanet
[Neolithic]To the End (3 Copies) - Support by a dev from China
Pathologic 2 (2 Copies) - In support of those who are not silent
Games from Humble Bundle charity effort Razom for Ukraine and others Donation through Humble Bundle
Games from Fanatical charity effort Red Cross Ukraine Donation through Fanatical
Games from Latvian devs charity effort Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Avernum 3: Ruined World (Level 4+) - For readers [of the discussion]

For mentions in other places, here is the permanent link to to the discussion: https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/jwiIL/

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It's pro-Putin content, I'm worried about the mood of Putin's soldiers. Fuck, no. I'm joking.
Putin's Soldiers Feel Disposable, Want to Leave Ukraine War: Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzAI2lIRvjg&ab_channel=DenysDavydov

Kerch Bridge easy target.... Lets find out.
May 9th seems a good day to deliver this kind of a massive blow to the Kremlin.
(Ps, if you are Russian or Russian minded and believe this to be a Terror Act, you are wrong)

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what happened to this forum? its full of russian trolls and lying propaganda.

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Inside the battle on the Eastern Front
Nothing new but it's an interesting insight into the thoughts of Ukrainian soldiers.

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Petition to Save Mariupol

We, the undersigned activists, non-governmental and non-profit organizations, politicians and celebrities, call on the United Nations, and in particular the Secretary-General of the United Nations, and regional leaders from around the world to launch an urgent "extraction" procedure.

Probably, the only way to save Ukrainian servicemen in the Azovstal plant from death/execution is to call for UN to initialize the so-called extraction procedure.


How Russia employs fake fact-checking in its disinformation arsenal — Digital Forensic Research Lab (DFRLab)

Kremlin-aligned outlets embrace open-source research and fact-checking tropes to make disinformation more convincing.
 
Russia’s use of fake fact-checking poses a three-fold threat by (1) heavily distorting Russian citizens’ perceptions of the war in Ukraine and the West; (2) moderately distorting global perceptions of the war; and (3) sowing public distrust in legitimate fact-checking institutions by polluting the information environment more generally.

Beware.


And a bonus map for those Russians who still dare to claim (or believe) that there were no Russian military in Donbas in 2014-2015:

View attached image.
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One million people have already signed the petition. With luck, maybe it could force Secretary-General António Guterres to act again.

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⚔️ War monitoring, assessment & independent analytics

Understanding what is happening in the battlefield day by day.
Asterisk (*) in the link means a blog or a project that receives updates.

War monitoring


Entity Links
Bellingcat Investigation Team Map of civilian harm in Ukraine*
Centre for Information Resilience Eyes on Russia: The Russia-Ukraine Monitor Map*
Liveuamap Ukraine interactive map*
Maxar Technologies Satellite imagery collected over Ukraine*
Oryx Blog Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine*
UK Ministry of Defence Defence Intelligence updates on the situation in Ukraine*
Ukraine War Map Mapping the Russian invasion of Ukraine*
Ukrainian Radio Watchers Russo-Ukrainian War Radio Archive*
Беларускі Гаюн Мониторинг военной активности на территории Беларуси*

War assessment & independent analytics


Entity Links
Institute for the Study of War Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment*
Tom Cooper, Austrian aerial warfare analyst and historian Ukraine War*
Jomini of the West, "human conflict" analyst Ukrainian TVD* --> Twitter threads (click/open starting tweets)
Eric Balough, former infantry officer and current military analyst Russo-Ukraine War Assessment*
MilitaryLand.net Russian invasion to Ukraine. Daily summaries*
Фейгин Live YouTube channel Хроника войны с Арестовичем* --> Arestovych is an advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine

For mentions in other places, here is the permanent link to the comment: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/pJSnkGm

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Updated the list with some more sources.

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Victory Day parade: Moscow readies itself and turns up rhetoric - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61338097


It is probably about 7:00 a.m. in Moscow right now.
There is a military parade scheduled for later in the day, and there are whispers that some sort of announcement or "action" is planned at the end of the parade.
(It will be over roughly at noon.)

How the facts turn out is often stranger than fiction in this world.
We won't know until the end.⏳👀
Presumably, in countries bordering Russia, they will have their eyes and ears on TV, radio, and the Internet at that hour in a safe place.

Speaking of which, it seems that the fires throughout Russia are not under control.
It would be wise to ceasefire and deal with them as soon as possible, but what will be the announcement? :(

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in countries bordering Russia, they will have their eyes and ears on TV, radio, and the Internet at that hour in a safe place.

Our eyes will be only not on TV, but on what will happen on streets as well. We have "victory park" with "victory monument" in the capital city... which for our country is a symbol of occupation not victory. But Russians of course celebrate 9th of may on our streets and each year police have to get involved. It's like a cancer growth. Of course up to this point everyone has been content to an extent - as far as it's peaceful, celebrate it. Nothing against that. But some have already tried to create events that celebrate USSR and what Russia is doing now. I'm happy that regular people are standing up against this.

Fortunately this year any celebration of USSR occupation and any event at the monument has been cancelled. And we actually put up a memorial for Ukraine - https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/zinas/latvija/uzvaras-parka-izvieto-16-lielformata-fotografijas-ar-ukrainas-kara-ainam.a454948/ It's in Latvian but you can see in the video and scrolling down the pictures we have put up. And today we have labeled a remembrance day for victims in Ukraine. Police are patrolling and people are diligently trying to block any celebration by Russians.

I do hope that none will escalate but it's sick that one country and it's citizens can create such a ruckus and unease for everyone around the world. A friend of mine lives nearby the "victory monument" and is thinking of skipping going home this evening. What a wonderful feeling... Russia is bombing Ukraine, killing people and everyone else is sitting worrying "who will be next"...

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An emergency has just been added.

Around 15:25 this hour.
A huge earthquake of M8 with a depth of 10 km has occurred in Taiwan.
This may cause Russia or China to do something. This is serious.

Japan News Bousai Network on Twitter: "Earthquake Early Warning Earthquake near Taiwan, strong tremors in Okinawa Please be alert for strong tremors. Announcement date and time: 15:23, September 9 Areas covered: Yonaguni Island, Okinawa Prefecture; Iriomote Island, Okinawa Prefecture; Ishigaki Island, Okinawa / Twitter
https://twitter.com/JapanNewsBousai/status/1523550020858908672
An immediate alert has been issued on the Japanese side.

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The bad news keep coming and coming. Sorry to hear this

Are you located nearby as well ?

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When I went to see the reports from the Taiwanese side, it was about M6.1.

It was larger than most earthquakes, but it did not seem to be serious.
Japan's Meteorological Agency has it listed at M8, but that will probably be corrected.
The emergency notification chilled my liver.
I am on the other side of the island, which is the furthest away from Taiwan, so no problem.

There may have been some damage, so I just hope there were no major accidents or injuries.

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Btw. we have this human garbage apologies for my wording, but she truly is despised in our politics : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatjana_%C5%BDdanoka

She has been in favor on installing Russian language as official language in EU and has constantly supported Putin and any atrocities he has committed. She was also one of the rare ones who opposed EU sanctions and retaliations against Russia and its war with Ukraine. She is supposedly "anti war", that's why we she considers we shouldn't intervene. That's literally going by the Kremlins propaganda book. And she was representative of Latvia. So yeah, I'm standing by my wording.

Unfortunately I can't find the pictures, but once she was unsupported by any political fraction in EU she had to scram due to her support for Putin and once coming back to Latvia she actually organized an event for Russians and she set up several USSR flags (or maybe it was Latvian USSR flag, can't remember). Either way - bad. But a bunch of people got together with Ukraine flags and blocked the event. It failed (the Russian event), police dispersed everyone and that was the end of day.

And now someone has actually painted her house gate in colors of Ukraine flag ... https://www.delfi.lv/news/national/politics/zdanokas-majas-varti-parkrasoti-ukrainas-karoga-krasas-deputate-versas-policija.d?id=54268598
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I agree with the fact that to vandalize property of someone just because you don't agree with their views can not be accepted.
But for acts, a painted gate is quite mild compared to what I have seen other politicians having to endure.

We have to defeat outspoken people like her with facts/ our words and condemnation.

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Some take it over the top .. no doubt.
At the beginning of war I think there where even vandalized homes.. which is not good.

But with how opposed this women has been to anything relating to independency from USSR and anything following the times it is fascinating how such a person ever got to be representative of our country.. with how much she is hated... But Russian based political parties in our country usually receive "donations" from Russia.. We even had a total shithead for a mayor in capital city who was directly financed by Kremlin. Only old Russian ladies liked him. Everyone else despised the little rat. And he still got to be representative in EU for us....So maybe some vandalism will bring these propagators back to earth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_U%C5%A1akovs - this is the little rat if anyone's wondering. Scroll down and there's some introduction in the controversy of him... should give the idea of what kind of Kremlins supported morons we receive here.

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A new poll that just came out in Finland (poll by Yle) says that 76% of Finns now are in favor of Finland joining NATO. Only 12% are against. The longer the invasion of Ukraine has gone on, and the more atrocities the Russian forces have committed, the more Finns see the need for NATO membership.

Nobody expected this sort of great majority support for joining to happen any time in the foreseeable future - prior to the senseless war of conquest Putin engaged in, in Ukraine, a majority of Finns were for staying neutral. Putin can look in the mirror to find the person responsible for the coming expansion of NATO to Russia's northwestern border. Every threat he's made, every intimidation tactic he's used since to try and dissuade us, has done the exact opposite of what he's wanted.

May 12th Finland would make an announcement and Sweden already let out some noise they would request to join NATO together with Finland if it happens.

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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-09-22/h_0c3bda10ff40ad543af00b4d89714d7b
43 min ago
'Putin and his circle are doomed.' Russian journalists post articles critical of invasion on pro-Kremlin site


(excerpt)

"Disclaimer: This material is not approved by the state, therefore the presidential administration will delete it... In other words: TAKE A SCREENSHOT URGENTLY before it’s deleted.”"

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lenta.ru 👀...
It seems that a news organization nationalized in Russia in a nefarious way has spread more than 30 Russian reports ready to be deleted or purged.
Perhaps if you are Russian, you can find them "right now".

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Похоже, что новостная организация, национализированная в России гнусным образом, распространила более 30 российских сообщений, готовых к удалению или очистке.
Возможно, если вы русский, вы сможете найти их "прямо сейчас".

📝:Deleted :(
Юрий Поляков – последние новости на сегодня – Lenta.ru
https://lenta.ru/tags/persons/polyakov-yuriy/1/
Александра Мирошникова - Авторы: Lenta.ru
https://lenta.ru/parts/authors/miroshnikova/

If you do a Google image search of their names, you can read their articles.
Если вы выполните поиск в Google по их именам, вы сможете прочитать их статьи.

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1 hr 50 min ago
Journalists responsible for publishing articles critical of Putin on pro-Kremlin outlet speak to CNN
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-11-22/h_25511ee5b82a7b720aa027a3a3cea035


You can read what happens if you insist on "no" in a country where you can only say "yes".
Freedom of speech and freedom of expression should be guaranteed, but it seems that the country's press freedom ranking is faster to count from the bottom. I wish the journalists a safe journey until things are over.
RSF’s 2022 World Press Freedom Index

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「司令官は“後ろに下がるな”と言う」、記者が語るロシアの現実(2022年5月14日) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dWcwvljcDQ
2:00~Юрий Поляков

I understand that in Russia, the article was reportedly fabricated by a hacker attack.

There is a video interview with the person who created the article.
I am not able to hear and understand Russian, but things are explained with subtitles to make sense of things.
He was fired from his company, but seems to have been able to escape outside Russia.

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Central Intelligence Agency on Instagram: “Ниже следуют инструкции для безопасного установления виртуального контакта с Центральным Разведывательным Управлением (ЦРУ) США. Мы…”
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdDo1_QMCLe/


cia
The following are instructions for safely making virtual contact with the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). We urge you to take all appropriate steps to keep yourself safe. Your safety is paramount.

(Excerpt)
the rest was an explanation of procedures and safe connection points.


( 「'Θ') 💻📡))))Помоги мне! 🗽
CIA seeks information from Russia via TOR.
It might be very useful for Russian citizens to learn how to send them in case of emergency.

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Or contact them at their last known address.
Seriously, no one's safety is paramount to the CIA.

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Probably no one expected to see GAs in the discussion at this point, but here are some GAs from me. Duration - one week.

Giveaway Charity Commentary
Bearslayer Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Comrades and Barons Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Dude, Stop Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Flashing Lights Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Gorytale Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Lazy Galaxy Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Lazy Galaxy: Rebel Story Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Moustache Mountain Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Seacurity Breach Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Spaceport Hope Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
The Inner Darkness Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
There Was A Caveman Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Try To Fall Asleep Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io
Winter Sleigh Ziedot.lv - Stand With Ukraine Donation through lindulens.itch.io

Added to the header:

🕹️ Latvian Games Charity Bundle

Latvian game developers are banded together in this charity game bundle to help victims of violence in Ukraine. Twelve creators from Latvia come together with 16 Steam games in this bundle worth over 100$. All proceeds from this bundle will be donated to charity organization "Ziedot.lv" project "Stand with Ukraine". Separate discussion.

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Thanks. Here is the official statement.

The Members of the Seimas also advocate the establishment of a Special International Criminal Tribunal to investigate and assess the crime of aggression committed by Russia against sovereign Ukraine and to prosecute the perpetrators through the concerted efforts of the international community and on the basis of the precedents known from history (Nuremberg, Tokyo, Sierra Leone and other special tribunals).

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Life of a Russian tank narrated by David Attenborough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGYci2bMTpk&ab_channel=NorwegianAbroad

Is Russian TV slowly turning against its own aka becoming aware to reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58foso20f-k&ab_channel=news.com.au

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How about this one: https://youtu.be/HyU_IV_hfUU
Great channel by Ukrainian national guardian stationed in Hostomel. Love his humor and tranquility.

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Yea, I have been watching operator starksy for over a month now.
He always has good content.

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More of Putin's puppets turning against him.
Russia is on its way to eating itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qREU9m4ZfL0

It might be time to think of a way to give Putin his "Golden Bridge" to retreat from.

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In French, exposed war crimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoKnhXnp-Zk

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Bonne santé et courage à Adrien.

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Brief paraphrase: Azov regiment are Nazis, Ukrainian troops are shelling civilians, Bucha was a staged show with real cadavers, Russian POW officers are unconditionally killed, and so on. Russians in comments praise it as "grains of truth among the sea of lies". Nothing interesting, the Kremlin-fed propagandists have nothing new to tell.

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in brief, STFU paid troll.

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Whew. Insults, no arguments, shitty pro-Kremlin propaganda all the way (mostly links with no commentaries). Who is a paid troll here? Hmm? Entertain us some more.

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pro-nazi propaganda is allowed, get your paycheck!

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oh look, a parrot who repeats what state media tells him

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Haha. Anything else? Palmer Eldritch sponsoring Westerns with free Chew-Z to back up Ukrainian Nazis in fight with the glorious Soviet Union reunion maybe? I’ve heard it might be a pro-alien propaganda all the way.

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Talking to yourself now ?

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I was afraid that we would no longer see pro-Putin in this discussion.
Putin's May 9 was pretty bad, this Victory Day was pretty boring. The 2022 edition should have been called the Losers Day.

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No worries. The President and the Prime Minister of Finland released a statement about joining NATO, and here we go again with new round of pro-Kremlin cries. I am perplexed as why there is no narrative about Finland's and Sweden's governments staging the war in Ukraine to seamlessly join NATO, while Russia can't afford to answer back. /s

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maybe they had some problems with their VPN...

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what do russians and vampires have in common? they cant cross running water.
why are there no trolls(creature type) in russia? russians cant build bridges.
what does a russian tank and a jack in the box have in common? they both bring great joy when they burst out the top.
how many russians does it take to use a Geiger counter? apparently more then there were posted at Chernobyl .

while i was reading about the sad putin shitbaggery i made a few funny's, figured id share. Go Bunny🐇

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you mean a Geiger counter?
i read particle canon first, lol

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actually, i think a geiger counter is a particle detector. but yes Geiger counter works better. i was 12 beers deep when i posted. ill change now, and fix some grammar.

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Как-то так - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwLQcNd2yLM видео абсолютно в точку.

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None of this justifies what russia is doing on Ukrainian soil.

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I've looked through his channel, and it seems the person clearly understands that the war started in 2014 but, for some reason, doesn't blame Russia for it at all. One other thing immediately caught my attention as well - a cover for Валентин Стрыкало song "Первомай" with a Soviet flag in hands. Yury Kaplan, who is the founder and the only constant member of Валентин Стрыкало band, is an active supporter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in his Instagram and other social media.

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People will deny russia's involvement in 2014 even if you feed them with literally ALL the information of who, where and how was acting on behalf of russia.
Also, they conveniently forget to compare how many people died in the east from "relentless Ukrainian bombibgs" to how many people have died as a result of a "heroical effort of rissian soldiers to save the russian-speaking people".

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It seems so. I have already posted that map, but I will post it again:

View attached image.
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"ЕТО ФЕЙКИ!!11 ИХТАМНЕТ!!1 ВЫ ВСЁ ВРЕТИ!!1!" /s

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говно скинул, переделывай.

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Ну что же ты сразу перешел на последнюю страницу методички?
Тебя же учили, надо хотя бы чуточку слов добавлять, а не бросать сразу просто ссылки хейтовые)

Кстати, за один пост все так же 15 рублей дают, или уже меньше?

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@Vassay
Кстати, за один пост все так же 15 рублей дают, или уже меньше?

Псс, тише, приятель, тише. По секрету, мне платят за каждое слово по рублю! На Steamgifts лучший тариф! =)

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Так тем более, надо более развернутые комменты писать)
Может мы просто украинской частью стимгифта скинемся тебе и ребятам баксов по 20, чтоб на неделю хватило?) Заодно отдохнете)

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Не получится перевести, санкции. А так мне вполне себе хватает на водку. =)

Еще пара сообщений и пойду пить, а потом посплю, где-нибудь на улице, под забором с медведем.

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Ну можно там какими-то голубями, или криптой, простигосподи)

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Что за крипта? Это там, где мощи святые выставляют?

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не, мощи гитлера в российском храме хранятся) крипта это другое

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ссылка на вк? ахаххах

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9th of May recap from Latvia :
Occupation monument was blocked for any celebration. Police and special forces where stationed there. Some came and put down flowers, but it was calm. Over night people started gathering, singing russian anthem along other russian war songs. The next day streets where filled with aggressive drunk russians. A lot where sleeping right there on the streets. City decided to clear the monument of flowers with a tractor. Of course russians tried to make a big deal out of this. Following two days russians came in hundreds to put down more flowers. They deny it was organized but of course there where known kremlins propagandists nearby and it was noted that there has been a van handing out flowers to the people. So yeah, that was your typical "event" by kremlin.

And of course yesterday russias propaganda channel (1TV) had a 15 minute propaganda piece showing these moments of people singing and putting down flowers as some kind of courage and sign that their special operation is winning along with their values. Basically same shit different day - they organize an event with either paid or brainwashed supporters, give out flags, flowers and whatever. And show it in their own twisted way. According to 1TV these where true Latvians and our youth. Of course it is absolute bullshit - people are hellbent on getting that occupation monument destroyed and even asking politicians to resign due to such incompetency of dealing with the situation as it happens each year and it was sure to get out of hand due to the war.

So before any propagandist comes here stating how they have support everywhere - be warned for the most part it's an absolute bullshit. They are just fed prefabricated and twisted news from around the world. People in Russia where of course having protests near Latvian and other country embassies due to this. Supposedly 1500 people gathered to protest against Latvia and how we supposedly oppressed poor Russians here and didn't let them celebrate "victory over nazism". Of course it all is connected to political parties. Basically big theater. I hope that regular Russians are not so blinded by this obvious kremlins propaganda. putin is ruining your country (and even if it's not putin but petrushev pushing his dirty political games to overthrow putin and put in one of his clowns, this is getting out of hand)

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"Poor oppressed russians" can simply leave Latvia and come back to russia, if they don't like it there. Moreover, a lot of them didn't even learn the language, despite living in Latvia for a long time.

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Yup. Agree with you one hundred percent. But of course they don't want to move anywhere. They want to live in western world, but mentally can't leave the glorious Russia that was. Most of them haven't even visited Russia, but they are hellbent on being against the country they live in. And I partly blame the fact people are too tolerant for this. We have political parties and politicians (of whom I already have posted two in my previous comment) who openly preach against sovereignty and independence from Russia. Who constantly play the card of Russians being oppressed. And what do others do ? Nothing. If we wouldn't be in NATO and EU we would have already had some bogus military operation launched against us (Baltics in general)

I recently moved to capital city myself. It baffles me how many people look at me with wide eyes after saying I don't understand Russian. People can't even say basic phrases. There are even Latvians who have approached me and started talking in Russian on street and only after switched to perfect Latvian....... I personally have nothing against talking with people in Russian. I understand it to an extent and I am studying it as well. But in principle I wont talk with people living here in any other language then my native one. I don't even have problems with Russians talking in Russian with each other of course. But unless your a tourist - learn the fucking language.

I work a lot with foreign people myself. From Azerbaijan, Turkey, India, China.. Most Europe. I've seen people pick up Latvian in matter of a year or two.. Some have been even born here and can't say please in Latvian.

Off topic a bit - I visited Denmark some years ago. Everyone was extremely friendly there. Even homeless. When I flew back in, before leaving the city went into petrol station to get coffee. I was backing up in an aisle, accidently bumped into a women. Said sorry.. she just looked at me said "pashol nahuj" and stormed away............. Seriously ? How can you not form a negative opinion on a nation when you constantly meet people like this.. I know I know not everyone is like that, but I wont never forget that

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Learning the language of the country you're staying in is a basic courtesy, imo. At least some super general words like "hello, good bye, how much, sorry, please, and thank you" - this goes a long way to show people you CARE about their culture. I try to learn at least those basic words whenever I'm traveling or working abroad, and people do seem so much more eager to interact when they hear their own language, even rudimentary and with horrible "soviet" accent.
People refusing to learn the local language, while living in a country for a prolonged period of time simply show disrespect for the local culture in general. It's okay to despise them for that :D

As for rude tourists - there's always assholes, in every country. Though of course it sours the view on a whole nation when you meet such people, we need to keep in mind that vocal minorities are (usually) not representative of the general population.

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@Vassay
It's okay to despise them for that :D

With one sentence you show your lack of culture.

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Lack of culture is living in a country for your whole life and not respecting it enough to learn the language and assimilate.
So no need to bring specific phrases out of context.

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@ChrisKutcher
Lack of culture is living in a country for your whole life and not respecting it enough to learn the language and assimilate.
So no need to bring specific phrases out of context.

So you agree with @Vassay and consider this a reason for despise? Got it.

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Think what you want. I wont say I despise such people, but the fact we want to demolish the occupation monument and most of the country would love to see these supporters leave for Russia for good says all there is needed to be said.

Russian people and their views are not being oppressed here. These are minorities that openly express disregard for our countries sovereignty and our national values. You can bring up propaganda materials as much as you like. You can try to paint us as nazis as much as you like. Those are all lies - we are not part of Russia just as much as Ukraine has never been and we do not bode ill for Russia or Russians. Leave us and our culture alone. I am glad we are part of NATO and EU and I hope it will go through well for Scandinavia and Ukraine as well.

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Yes, I despise people who live if a foreign country and refuse to learn even a tiny bit of local language. Such people show disrespect to the language, and , as a consequence, to the culture, and native people as well.
It doesn't matter which nationality such people are, I will readily condemn ukrainians too, if they refuse to learn a new language. Though as the record shows, ukrainians usually try to blend into new environments, and speak local language.

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@ChrisKutcher
City decided to clear the monument of flowers with a tractor. Of course russians tried to make a big deal out of this. Following two days russians came in hundreds to put down more flowers.

Not only that, the attitude to opinion, even if a small number of people do not give a damn. But there were so many flowers that I had to use the technique.

This is sad

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Perfectly normal. What's sad about it ? The fact your propaganda channels try to paint this as some kind of disrespect towards Russia is bullshit. Only ones disrespectful where the actual Russians who came to the occupation monument. But of course you know the situation better because your state controlled media told you right ? Not me, who literally lives nearby ? .... of course, I forgot I'm a western spy paid to spread lies ... right ?

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Perfectly normal. What's sad about it ?

I understand it’s completely normal to spit on the opinion of people who have lived in your country for a long time, what’s wrong with laying out flowers for a monument? They would lie down for a couple of days and would wither. Who in their right mind destroys flowers from monuments and graves?

@ChrisKutcher
I forgot I'm a western spy paid to spread lies.

Are you a spy? Do not make me laugh.

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Granted, it was not the subtlest ways to deal with the problem, but you do realize that these "views" you are trying to defend here are of celebrating an occupation of our country ? Of long years of being oppressed by fascist regime ? Within world war 2 soviet union was as horrible as nazi germany. Only reason you are being tolerated is because you helped to win against nazis. For Russia - ok, its victory for you. Celebrate it. In your country.

Celebrating it here is like spitting on our history and on people who have suffered from soviet army. Women got raped, people killed when soviets came here. It was destruction - we are not that old. Most of us still have relatives who first hand survived the atrocities of soviets. Don't play a victim here. The war with Ukraine only opened up the wounds for everyone. Old people are terrified of possibility of living through all of that again. We were content with it - as you said.. let the flowers wither. But this war and total disregard towards what is being done has switched the attitude.

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@ChrisKutcher
Women got raped, people killed when soviets came here. It was destruction - we are not that old. Most of us still have relatives who first hand survived the atrocities of soviets.

Another view on history, its okay. Hope you checking and reading original documents. Scaring via evil Russians is usual nowadays.

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Original documents ? The ones Russia made ? In which world is any of the documents written by the winner reliable ? You truly believe Russians where liberators here ? They stole, raped and pillaged everything. Just like they are doing now in Ukraine.

Difference - if you lose the Ukraine war the whole world will see for who Russian army truly is. Not your version of it.

PS. to be totally honest - denying what soviets did should hold the same punishment as denying holocaust.

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Original documents ? The ones Russia made ? In which world is any of the documents written by the winner reliable ?

Why USSR documents? You live in Latvia, your country don't have historians and political scientists who can provide documents and evidence?

@ChrisKutcher
PS. to be totally honest - denying what soviets did should hold the same punishment as denying holocaust.

Rolf. You judge me for crimes, that may have (according to you) committed when I was not even in the plans? Got it.

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Because we had such a freedom of history and culture while being under the soviet union until 1991... Truly the age of wisdom and ability to document our history of wrongdoings by our overlords.

https://gulag.online/articles/soviet-repression-and-deportations-in-the-baltic-states?locale=en - there are btw pretty good data on what has soviet union done to baltics. As for your regular Russian army pastimes - murder and rape - no shortage of experiences and stories. But of course its all limited - you know, winners write the history and all that :)

Also there are holocaust deniers who were not born when it took place as well. I don't judge you for the crimes that were committed. I judge you on the fact you try to downplay them and say things like that didn't happen.

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@ChrisKutcher
I judge you on the fact you try to downplay them and say things like that didn't happen.

Really? Where i say something like this?

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Scaring via evil Russians is usual nowadays.

Don't see how else can this be understood in relation to what I said. I'm not scaring anyone with anything. It was soviets who did those things. And what soviets did is literally why celebration of 9th of May at occupation memorial is a spit on our history not other way around as you tried to portray.

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Dont try to twist my words. What nazis did was horrible. And my discussion with Bazilus is solely about what soviets did. I only used holocaust as comparison and in no way I'm downplaying what they did (or their accomplices, be it Latvians or not). And what nazis did in no way connects or absolves of what soviets did after (or before). I do apologize if the comparison was a bit out of place as I understand that is not a light subject.

So as far as discussion goes - ok, fine. Good points - but don't say I'm uninterested in history if you want to take things out of context. "Liberation" was at best one evil changing to another for many countries.

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Interesting interpretation of my words. In this light, it is not so surprising when you interpret history in a different way.

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To my regret, the ru segment of Wikipedia, is outside the power of the Russian state. All information on it is controlled by the domain owner and they not friendly to my country.

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what a pity

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Oh no, do you maybe know why that happened? /s

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Oh no, do you maybe know why that happened?

This is not "somehow happened", it was from starting of ru wiki segment. Don't be silly.

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Have you read the original message to the end? Chris wrote that people were given flowers from a van that was brought there specifically for this reason. This is not a "people's vote", this is a planned, and probably even paid, act, a play, for the pretty picture.

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@Vassay
This is not a "people's vote", this is a planned, and probably even paid, act, a play, for the pretty picture.

Yes, yes, evil and vile Russians, KGB agents everywhere. =)

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oh, you're back, i thought you were gone, missed you NOT

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So you're gonna just avoid the proper discussion and just play the victim, or turn everything into a farce? You're beter than this, come on ;)

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yeah, he's always shifting the topic when he hasn't any arguments

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Is this Ukrainian culture? To attack an one unarmed girl with flowers by a crowd. Of course this is not planned Ukrainian action.

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While the world watches how Russian soldiers unconditionally shoot Ukrainian civilians in the backs, the Russians watch how an arrogant Russian woman stomps through an anti-war demonstration in Warsaw on camera to make her own counterdemonstration. During the war. Among people from Ukraine protesting the Russian aggression. Is this Russian culture? I know it is.

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Russian woman stomps through an anti-war demonstration in Warsaw on camera to make her own counterdemonstration.

What hypocrisy, shame on you too.

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“Hypocrisy”. That word means nothing for you. That woman did exactly what she wanted to do and received the exact reaction she anticipated to receive. If that was not a counterdemonstration from her, she would not go on demonstrators so openly and so blatantly. There were other more humble ways to lay flowers and acknowledge everyone around if the only thing she wanted was to lay flowers. Why is it so hard for the Russians to be humble and respectful to others? Without playing the victims?

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@Q09066930
That woman did exactly what she wanted to do and received the exact reaction she anticipated to receive.

Here one of the two. You are either frankly lying, or your eyes are so clouded that you stopped see the usual injustice. And both is terrible.

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so if she wasn't out to cause a scene... why does she have to come with a camera rolling and instead of passing the people on the outside, tries to force herself through them... I mean it's not like she couldn't see what's going on.

If it would be about honoring the fallen she would have passed the crowd and put her flowers down..... just sayin

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Exactly what I am saying. A woman with a megaphone tells her in Polish to not stomp on the demonstrators, again and again. She ignores it and goes anyway, but tries to go closer to a crowd that simply blocks her way until she tries to force herself through and then, she is being knocked onto laying demonstrators. She still goes on, lays flowers facing the camera and tries to show some red piece of something resembling the Soviet Union flag or something like that and then the fight with a single woman starts until police had finally deigned to do something.

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5 or so years ago, there were massive political demonstrations here between 2 factions who were both riled up for months.
And I can guarantee you that if I was displaying signs/marks of supporting one group and walked among the other group I would have gotten some altercations with some people as well because tensions were strung tightly.

So I got the lay some blame with the woman. She could have assessed the situation a bit beforehand and come to the conclusion that maybe this exact moment it might be better not to go put down flowers because to be fair you can show respect to your fallen countrymen any day of the year. Another day and probably fewer boiling heads are present at that location. This shows consideration towards the Ukrainian people.

The Ukrainians are protesting against the war and have a demonstration.
I give props to the first man for using his words against the woman's words.
Now although I understand that all these people are frustrated and angry. ( which is why I said that the flower woman should have had a bit more common sense)
I don't agree with any type of violence therefor I condemn the one woman who gives the flower woman an albeit little shove that makes her trip.
And most of all the Karen lady who is yelling with a megaphone right up to the ear of that woman and than starts a physical altercation with flower woman.

Now to you,
You use words like "injustice" to describe this. Are you insane??
How about the rapes, murdering, looting, destruction of livelihood and now the dealership owner and guard who get shot in the back as they just casually walk away minding their own business.
Here you have your real injustice.

"First, people who have chosen military service as their destiny realize what they signed up for. And in professional army simply won’t take any stupid scumbags and murderers there. If a soldier is stupid, how can he study, thinking and fight?"
Your words from before and this latest video as more evidence towards my point that in fact it is Bazilus who has a clouded vision and you still refuses to see the scumbags in Russia.

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You use words like "injustice" to describe this. Are you insane??

Seems like that is a national sport for a lot of Russians. They provoke everyone left and right, but when someone does anything against it they go "oh no, thats injustice, oppression, russophobia". But considering that is literally what Kremlin does daily there is no surprise these people see injustice in everything. Only the Kremlin is the only true one in the world when you live by propaganda. And I mean, whenever something bad comes up about soviets or russia, its just our interpretation which incidentally is wrong. I wouldn't even be surprised if Bazilus along with others will just say that rape and murder in Ukraine are lies and just our wrong interpretation stemming from evil western propaganda. At this point its so easy to predict their way of thinking its eerie

This is also where a lot of problem stem from in Latvia in relation to my previous comments - the mentality is "we will be the grown up ones, no need to provoke russians". But what do russians do when it comes for our national holidays or 9th of may ? They wear Russian flags, provoke anyone around them. Even attack private property where there are LAtvian flags out .... And when anyone retaliates ? Injustice of course. They can do anything in their own minds... Bu then again - not really surprising when you live be Kremlins propaganda of how everyone is against you and you are the only right one.

PS. And looks like our government has found a way to legally take down the occupation monument. And what do Russians do ? Threaten everyone with war - how we are ungrateful and how we deserve to be occupied by russia. Its sickening to hear this shit.

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What do russians do when it comes for our national holidays or 9th of may ? They wear Russian flags, provoke anyone around them. Even attack private property where there are LAtvian flags out ....

Poor thing, even on Latvian holidays russians offend you, and your government cannot protect you. You are victim in your country? Do you really think so?

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Want to know what happened when there was a vote for having second official language as Russian ? There where vatniks walking outside of voting places and threatening people to vote in favor of it. You couldn't even walk out in the streets at night in fear of having someone like this come to you and ask "cigareti jesk?" and if you answer in anything but russian you get beaten up (they are cowardly pieces of shit as they only attack in groups)

It has gotten a lot safer now with increased police. But yes - the relations are strained. I know we are on two totally different view points here, but I just want to make sure I am not unconditionally just hating russians here. I work with very nice russian people as well and have some very nice family friends who live in russia. So of course I am not saying every russian is evil. But if I have to be afraid to leave Latvian flag in my car window, just to have my window smashed in the morning - something has to be done.

Whatever your condescending point is, Russians are not victim here. Imagine that - talking in your native language and hating anything related to the country you live in and get no shit for it. But I suppose if you preach for the occupation of Baltics, Scandinavia and Ukraine, then I am not that surprised.

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I agree with your point.
There are a lot of good decent immigrants out there.
They assimilate, find work and help society.

But I also think that Europe ought to use a blacklist system that many Asian countries use.
When you get caught doing criminal things. Blacklist for 5 years from entering said country.

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And to finish off - I couldn't care less for those Latvians (or whichever country we talk about) who emigrate to other countries without learning the language and then celebrating our holidays there as well. Respect other countries, their culture and their languages. I am all for people going abroad to look for a better life. But don't sit in another country and realize you need to suddenly be nationalistic about a country you have yourself abandoned.

Culture mixing is a great thing as well - I love when I find out some kind of holiday a foreign friend shows me that they celebrate. And if I'm abroad and celebrating some national holiday of my own I keep it within the limits of place I stay. But common courtesy is really a dying characteristic these days unfortunately.

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@ChrisKutcher
Want to know what happened when there was a vote for having second official language as Russian ? There where vatniks walking outside of voting places and threatening people to vote in favor of it. You couldn't even walk out in the streets at night in fear of having someone like this come to you and ask "cigareti jesk?" and if you answer in anything but russian you get beaten up (they are cowardly pieces of shit as they only attack in groups)

Something is really bad there, how do your authorities allow this nowadays? My government protecting me from such injustice.

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Depends on how you look at it - protects or oppresses. IMO this is the curse and blessing of democracy. You can't really arrest someone for just voicing an opinion. So you want to have second language as Russian ? Organize an event, voting and feel free to implement it if enough people support it.

As for attacking someone - its not like these people attack others when there is police nearby. Most of them already have criminal background and they just flee whenever cops are nearby. For the most part police wont even do anything if you are beaten..... What are they going to do ? Start a manhunt for someone who hit you ? ... As a side note - friend of mine had an aggressive neighbor who drank daily, fought with his wife over nights and threatened to stab my friend. What did police say ? They can't do anything against it. You get stabbed ? Well if you don't die we will try to look for the one who did it. So its not like our underpaid police are that keen on solving squabbles on streets.

Of course the situation is getting better and better. But the whole deal with 9th of May celebration was a huge change in attitude by the people themselves. That's why everyone is really hellbent on getting the monument torn down. People have themselves donated 150k for it to be taken down.

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It may be worth starting with your govements first, so that such situations do not happen again. Or and in this situation with your governing bodies, the evil Russians are also to blame?

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and when the government is taking action and kicking those scumbag russians out of the country, you would be the first one who complains about "injustice"

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@Prosac
and when the government is taking action and kicking those scumbag russians out of the country, you would be the first one who complains about "injustice"

So, you think, this option is true democracy and tolerance for you? Got it.

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if people can't behave, we have to find ways, democracy isn't a free pass for committing crimes
not to mention you compare crimes, which we don't have to tolerate, with free speech and thinking, which we should tolerate
but i see this concept seems strange to you, living in an authoritarian country, where free speech isn't allowed either

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@Prosac
if people can't behave, we have to find ways, democracy isn't a free pass for committing crimes
not to mention you compare crimes, which we don't have to tolerate, with free speech and thinking, which we should tolerate
but i see this concept seems strange to you, living in an authoritarian country, where free speech isn't allowed either

I hope you understand that in a real democracy, your personal freedom ends at the very moment when your actions begin to concern other people? And this applies to everyone around.

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i know and we can have a very long discussion about that topic, because there are several degrees of concerning other people, which not always limits your personal freedom, it's not that black/white.

but we talked about other things...

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@Prosac
i know and we can have a very long discussion about that topic, because there are several degrees of concerning other people, which not always limits your personal freedom, it's not that black/white.

Forgive me in advance, but based on our conversations, I very much doubt your words.

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that's your problem not mine

distracting further...

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Back up here a bit.
What is your proposed solution here ? That the government oppresses a specific group of people ? Because it sure sounds like that. That's called fascism and that's maybe acceptable in Russia and basically destroyed all the arguments of evil UA nazi and how Russia is going there to liberate it.
But the civilized world doesn't act like that.

But once we start doing something similar to this idea, you start saying injustice and invade a country.
As for this situation - government is already doing as much as in a democratic country it can do. It has been officially decided that the occupation monument will be taken down. And anyone supporting the war or showing disrespect towards our country gets fined or arrested.

Apart from that Russians are free to move back to Russia and however much you would like to paint west as nazis, we do not forcibly deport people due to different views. And here is where the problem originates - Russians living here openly hate west, our government but are against moving back to Russia. That is hypocrisy if I have ever seen one, but I wouldn't preach for open oppression or deportation.... how ever much I would love to see all these trouble makers return to their paradise ...........

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@ChrisKutcher
That the government oppresses a specific group of people ? Because it sure sounds like that. That's called fascism...
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It has been officially decided that the occupation monument will be taken down. And anyone supporting the war or showing disrespect towards our country gets fined or arrested.

How did you get two self-contradictory phrases in one message.

@ChrisKutcher
...and that's maybe acceptable in Russia

Are your assumptions based on speculation? How can you judge something if you have never (I think that you have never) been to Russia.

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Not self contradictory. Not really. Fines and arrests are in order with any other public disturbances (let's say disrespecting the countries flag - that's fine up to 400 eur I think.. And I'm pretty sure similar rules are in place all around the world). I'm talking about rounding up a trouble group and deporting them... or physically assaulting them ... or detaining them just for voicing opposite opinion that goes against current political regime. That doesn't happen.

Yes, I have not been to Russia (I would love to visit though), but we don't have to look that far back into history for my point - anyone who called "special operation" as war gets jailed. People get beaten and dragged away for protesting. We don't fine or arrest or beat anyone who protests. If you cause public disturbance it doesn't really matter who you are... That's just simply against the law. As for people holding up signs near Kremlin and getting dragged away by police just for that ? .... I don't know what else but fascism that is.

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@ChrisKutcher
anyone who called "special operation" as war gets jailed. People get beaten and dragged away for protesting. We don't fine or arrest or beat anyone who protests.

Read less yellow press, then you will not write such nonsense. Especially about other countries.

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https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/01/more-than-6-000-arrests-in-russia-during-protests-over-ukraine-war-says-human-rights-group

Yes, Yellow press. You can't even take these videos out of context and blame it on fascism....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60749279 - and how about the TV anchor ? ...

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I don’t know Latvian laws, but in Russia need to coordinate any demonstration with state services, so that a safe area is organized, toilets for protesters are organized, consent is obtained from residents near those lying homes for consent about the noise from the event. There are a huge number of opinions in our country, so opponents of the rally agenda also come to any rally, and this is why security must be organized. All city services should be warned about the event: the work of vehicles, cleaners, a huge number of workers who (since such rallies are usually held outside working hours) must work overtime. Lot of prepare work.

We are not barbarians, if you want to rally, please, just do not arrange pogroms of other people's property, this is what the police are for on such events too.

You confuse detention with imprisonment, all those detained for holding an unauthorized rally are issued documents, fined and released home.

You talked about beatings, I didn’t notice something, when four kind people carry a kicking person by the arms and legs, this just prevents him from hitting the corners and the asphalt.

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i agree liberal democracy with free speech and thinking has some problems with bullys and misled minds, like Covid deniers

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@codasim
Now to you,
You use words like "injustice" to describe this. Are you insane??
How about the rapes, murdering, looting, destruction of livelihood and now the dealership owner and guard who get shot in the back as they just casually walk away minding their own business.
Here you have your real injustice.

Is this your justification for the actions of the people in the video towards the woman with the flowers? Apparently, someone believes that she personally brought ammunition in the Donbas.

@codasim
"First, people who have chosen military service as their destiny realize what they signed up for. And in professional army simply won’t take any stupid scumbags and murderers there. If a soldier is stupid, how can he study, thinking and fight?"

Yes, this is my words, i'm still thinking same.

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2 people who used physical against the woman with flowers, which I dont condone and you would have known if you read carefully. But I understand people like you only can see the things that fit your narrative.
The rest of the people are using their words which I know is hard for you to understand but a freedom of all of us here in the free world.

Your words, you think the same.
So you can agree then that Russian army is not a professional army.
Made up of a lot of garbage humans in their rank.
And them being not professional also explains why Russia is losing this war hard.

A woman gets harrassed.... Bazilus... look at this injustice.
2 men shot in the back... Bazilus .... silence.
Conclusion ... Bazilus is human garbage approving terror acts.
Proof me wrong.

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@codasim
2 people who used physical against the woman with flowers, which I dont condone and you would have known if you read carefully.
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A woman gets harrassed.... Bazilus... look at this injustice.
2 men shot in the back... Bazilus .... silence.

Why are you trying to pass off your thoughts as mine? Again, you are trying to justify the actions of the crowd in relation to the girl with flowers, with the event that happened (if they really happened) are somewhere far from the situation under discussion. Is this an excuse?

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No you are wrong again.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you sorry.
But lets try a different approach,... What did the crowd do in your opinion that was such an injustice?
( Let's be clear, the crowd as YOU said, not the lady who shoved the woman or the Karen lady with the Megaphone as I said.)

"If they really happened"
Did you even search for the tweet that has been posted?
Anyway,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GUrNPPTSWM
Where they edited out the actual shooting, I am sure with your skills you can find the unedited version yourself.

Of course it is under discussion,
The discussion is about injustice, which is what lots of Russians are doing to the wronged Ukraine at the moment.

Why you don't want to argue the point that Russia is not a professional army?
Ignore the things you can't address without conceding your position is it?
We can only conclude that you are pro Ukrainian genocide then and it will take you years before you will be able to reach that conclusion.

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@codasim
No you are wrong again.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you sorry.
But lets try a different approach,... What did the crowd do in your opinion that was such an injustice?
( Let's be clear, the crowd as YOU said, not the lady who shoved the woman or the Karen lady with the Megaphone as I said.)

Your thoughts around woman with flowers is terribly ridiculous and brings a smile.

@codasim
Of course it is under discussion, The discussion is about injustice, which is what lots of Russians are doing to the wronged Ukraine at the moment.

Does this justify such an attitude towards Russian-speaking people who are far from the place of real hostilities?

@codasim
Why you don't want to argue the point that Russia is not a professional army?

Because it's not true.

@codasim
We can only conclude that you are pro Ukrainian genocide then and it will take you years before you will be able to reach that conclusion.

Do not pass off your conjectures as my thoughts. This is silly.

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Does this justify such an attitude towards Russian-speaking people who are far from the place of real hostilities?

yes, if they behave like trash and are seeking active confrontation, then they have to count with a backlash, maybe that's why she brought a TV team with her and i wouldn't be surprised, if this all was planned by russian state media

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Why i'm starting to think that you a "plug" in every my dialogue?

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that's the thing with democracy, everyone can say what he thinks, i'm not allowed to do that?

again distracting from the topic, when you're lacking arguments

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Didn't your mom teach you that it's rude to intervene in other people's conversations?

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you mean active conversations, last post from codasim is 6 hours old, so this wasn't a conversation which was going on

distracting further...

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Oh, so you're an active replacement for speakers?

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Everyone needs to sleep sometime :D
But feel free to react to anything you want, I don't think it is rude at all.
If Bazilus wanted to have a private conversation, he should have picked a different venue. :DD
Enjoy your day.

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it's all okay, mate
i didn't meant it the way that you had to apologize for anything
Bazilus made a point where it is good manner to not interrupt one or many actively speaking right at the time, but this wasn't here the case at all, that's all i wanted to point out

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Answer the question
What did the jeering crowd do that is such an injustice?

Share your thoughts/reasoning for once.

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@codasim
Answer the question
What did the jeering crowd do that is such an injustice?
Share your thoughts/reasoning for once.

Everything is trite and simple, the girl calmly began to bypass the "supposedly" dead people, and it is clearly visible that she asked to be let through. It's her business, to let a person put a couple of wreaths, there is no problem. But the crowd, that's why it is the crowd, it has its own goals.

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there wasn't anything calm in her approach, telling by the speed she was walking and her straight approach, knewing that she is seeking active confrontation
and as others stated, she could have passed the people on the outside, but she hadn't chosen so. Why? Because she was seeking confrontation and of course the crowd confronted her with their stance.
That's why demonstrations and their counterdemonstration are usually separated in my country and the police should have kept her from approaching the crowd and tell her to come back later

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@Prosac
there wasn't anything calm in her approach, telling by the speed she was walking and her straight approach

You are so desperate to justify the crowd's behavior towards the girl with flowers. Clinging to some nonsense. It’s even interesting if hypotetical for you needed go through the excited crowd near the monument, how would you show yourself up?

@Prosac
That's why demonstrations and their counterdemonstration are usually separated in my country and the police should have kept her from approaching the crowd and tell her to come back later

In your country possible to prevent people from paying tribute to the memory of monuments? Detaining ordinary people for the sake of an organized crowd? Very interesting.

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the only on desperate here is you, trying to twist this in favour of the woman who behaves like a bull in a china shop
i approached the video with common sense and that is what i see, if she would have been a man i'm sure a fist-fight would have started

it's not about paying tribute, it's about paying tribute right at the moment some others do a demonstration there, that's rude and an active confrontation and she reaped what she sow
also i never said something of detaining, maybe you used this word, because detainment is such a common practice where you live, we don't do that in liberal democratic countries, when someone has a different view on things

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Rude this is when to use force on a lonely girl, but to justify such a thing is worse.

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so, because she is a lonely women she can do what she wants, that's a grade A reasoning NOT
if she hadn't approached the crowd directly, she could have avoided any backlash, but i think she did it on purpose to receive that backlash, there is nothing innocent about your lonely girl

and of course you ignored all my other points, because you're lacking arguments

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@Prosac
so, because she is lonely women she can do what she wants, that's a grade A reasoning NOT

Do you want to accuse her of something else? =)

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i say if someone behaves this way, he receives the according backlash
if you insult someone and you got beaten up you're not the innocent here

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@Prosac
and of course you ignored all my other points, because you're lacking arguments

Try creating something new, this is old song.

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you're speaking of yourself now, right?
as you start distracting again, your patterns are so easy to read

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"Detaining ordinary people for the sake of an organized crowd? Very interesting."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbzV1it1YPY
Arrested for holding a blank piece of paper. God help them.

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@codasim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbzV1it1YPY
Arrested for holding a blank piece of paper. God help them.)

He was given a choice, he made it. Received an administrative bill, will pay a fine, next time he will probably do another choose.

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“When you cut out a man’s tongue, you’re not proving him wrong.
You’re simply telling the world you fear what he may say.”

The actions of this police goes hand in hand with...
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Also known as fascism.

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There are rules, for example, you can’t pee in public places, this entails administrative responsibility and a fine. If you really want to, you can do it, but be prepared to take responsibility for your act. Here the situation is the same, that this is a single picket, people who film it say. Police man gived him time for stop it, but... So if he wanted to break the rules, now get punished. Personal choice.

@codesim
The actions of this police goes hand in hand with...
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Also known as fascism.

Nationalism, fascism and racism all in one pile, did you definitely study these concepts?

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Russia makes it very easy to study all 3 concepts at the same time these days.

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@codasim
Russia makes it very easy to study all 3 concepts at the same time these days.

To begin with, it would be good for you to read how many nationalities live in Russia. They all have their own official languages, schools teaching these languages. Museums about their culture and life. We honor all this cultures and they history.

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Trying to eliminate Ukrainian nationality.
Your words don't match reality.

Russian soldiers are military criminals as they came to Ukraine with one purpose – to kill and destroy. Their goal is not to take Ukraine under their control but to destroy it completely with all the people who are ready to resist.

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@codasim
Trying to eliminate Ukrainian nationality.
Your words don't match reality.
Russian soldiers are military criminals as they came to Ukraine with one purpose – to kill and destroy. Their goal is not to take Ukraine under their control but to destroy it completely with all the people who are ready to resist.

How do you jump from topic to topic. I will not going dispel your speculations. If you don't want know anything new, that your choice.

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Of course you won't dispel my speculations...
You can't dispel hard facts.
It is your choice that you want to keep your head in the sand and claim ignorance.

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@codasim
Of course you won't dispel my speculations...
You can't dispel hard facts.
It is your choice that you want to keep your head in the sand and claim ignorance.

I'm just amazed at your culture of communication.

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So am I by your Stalwart defense of murderers, rapists and genocide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prDzlCEE1VI

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@codasim
So am I by your Stalwart defense of murderers, rapists and genocide.

Don't attribute your thoughts to me.

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I will repeat then
Bazilus the defender of Russian rapists, murderers and genocide.
Pretty clear to see to anyone how you dance around damning evidence so this is the only logical conclusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDtLLij-EE

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@codasim
I will repeat then
Bazilus the defender of Russian rapists, murderers and genocide.

Oh god, I don't want to upset you, but that's not how it works.

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Makes me smile that you are that naïve.

It is also clear that you are suffering from Naïve Realism.
You believe that you see the world objectively and without bias.
Assume that others who do not share the same views as you must be irrational, or biased which is clear from how you responded to all others who posted here about flower girl.

Flower girl is so innocent
Crowd is just being crazy without any reason

Flower girl just has pure and honest intentions
Crowd has only got nefarious goals.

I stick with my opinion,
Flower girl should have had more common sense and just pick a different day with no fired up protesters. Wouldn't be a problem if she really had all pure and noble intentions.
The 2 protesters who I mentioned before are in the wrong for laying hands on flower girl.

To end, probably many Russians who wanted to visit the monument on that day made the logical decision, reasoning that their country ( Russia) is the aggressor and has wronged many people ( Ukrainians) and that no good will come from their presence at that time which would only instigate an already rightfully anged people.

And that you can't see this, says it all
Naïve Realism.

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Another defender of injustice.
It doesn’t matter at all whether the girl goes to lay flowers on purpose or not, these are your personal speculations. The Ukrainian action, apparently by chance, happened to be exactly on this day, right at this monument. And she completely unintentionally nightmares people. They interfered with more than only one woman. But it doesn’t matter, they are all equal participants, they can’t forbid her to pass, moreover, she asked her to pass, she even apparently tryed explained why she needed it, they talk nicely with the man on her way. If she had been let through, there would have been nothing, which means that these people wanted a conflict with her. That's the whole story.

@codasim
To end, probably many Russians who wanted to visit the monument on that day made the logical decision, reasoning that their country ( Russia) is the aggressor and has wronged many people ( Ukrainians) and that no good will come from their presence at that time which would only instigate an already rightfully anged people.

All your words about "what is possible and maybe and about someone thinking about or not", this is your personal conjectures nothing more.

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Like I said, Naïve Realism

Today as I was driving home, I asked this slow driver in front of me to move lane so I could continue.
He didn't move!!
Oh my God the injustice I suffered!!
Lets talk a whole page about this silly everyday occurrence while ignoring the real injustice, the war on Ukraine.

And how about your conjecture that she was just there to place flowers and how you know all the nice things she said and explained. Your whole narrative is based on conjecture.

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@cosasim
And how about your conjecture that she was just there to place flowers and how you know all the nice things she said and explained. Your whole narrative is based on conjecture.

Exactly. This is why i not says about this before, it doesn't matter for me, all this people with equal rights in my eyes. This is why what happened, is most definitely unfair to the girl.

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@codasim
Why you don't want to argue the point that Russia is not a professional army?

Because it's not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU-KFiNHAbM
Competence of Ukrainian army
Incompetence of Russian army, hundreds of dead Russian soldiers and 52 destroyed vehicles.

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@codasim
Competence of Ukrainian army
Incompetence of Russian army, hundreds of dead Russian soldiers and 52 destroyed vehicles.

Again empty words from someone.

Perhaps you were personally at the scene and can says what happened? Maybe you a military specialist or video analyst? I am not, but sure here we need specialists.

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Where do you think the information comes from?
British Defense Agency and satellite images from BlackSky intelligence firm.
Not specialist enough for you I bet.

Waiting for Russia to claim it was a crazy forest fire?

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@codasim
Where do you think the information comes from?
British Defense Agency and satellite images from BlackSky intelligence firm.
Not specialist enough for you I bet.

Obviously, they won't lie. Never! =)

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Denialism =)

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Acceptance

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I would consider it injustice if the police had not intervened, although I don't understand what took them so long to do it if they were standing nearby. As for your insinuations, the reverse thing happened in Berlin, where a single Ukrainian woman with Ukrainian flag just two days out of Ukraine attended the Russian celebration of the Victory Day, got insults shoving her way, and then got arrested by police for showing the flag, while the Russians kept showing theirs without repercussions near the monument. Did I post it here? No. I think that situation is just your common everyday injustice that happens all the time everywhere in the world, which is far from being perfect. It still cannot be compered to what is happening in Ukraine during the invasion that you keep ignoring.

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@Q09066930
As for your insinuations, the reverse thing happened in Berlin, where a single Ukrainian woman with Ukrainian flag just two days out of Ukraine attended the Russian celebration of the Victory Day, got insults shoving her way, and then got arrested by police for showing the flag, while the Russians kept showing theirs without repercussions near the monument.

Seems in Berlin know something.

@Q09066930
It still cannot be compered to what is happening in Ukraine during the invasion that you keep ignoring.

O'rly? It seemed to me that we had already found out that we were standing on opposite sides of the barricades. Have you changed your outlook? If so, do you want to discuss this?

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You understood what I was saying, but chose to interpret it differently.

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@Q09066930
You understood what I was saying, but chose to interpret it differently.

I think same, you understood what i was written, but chose interpretation by yourself.

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No idea what are you referring to.

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@Q09066930
No idea what are you referring to.

This is normal, people very, often do not understand each other.

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Here is an example of Russian culture then shooting unarmed civilians because they don't have cigarettes.

  • looks like with a bit of digging you can find the video if you really want to. I remember you watching the news from both sides so it oughtn't be a problem for you.
    "CNN obtains graphic surveillance video showing Russian forces shooting Ukrainian civilians" tweet on Twitter

Start your deflecting Bazilus, don't forget to play "victim" card.

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It is the same video I was referring to. It is better to avoid posting it directly or indirectly through news articles because some folks here brought to my attention that such videos are too much for them and it might violate the rules even with NSFW tags. People can google that, I guess.

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Of course Im not victim! I'm evil and vile russian agent KGB. Rolf.

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Riight. So, lots of russian tv crews around, trying to capture the conflict as it happens. The girl is shoving everyone around, and finally someone shoves her back. She stomped on the people laying on the ground, and she also climbed the monument, which technically is a desecration (by your standards), and she started the tugging with the girl with the red hands. Wow, what a great video! How much did she suffer, without any reason for it!!!

Really, this is a blatantly obvious provocation from the russian side, you need to be completely blind to think of it as anything else.

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@Vassay
The girl is shoving everyone around, and finally someone shoves her back. She stomped on the people laying on the ground, and she also climbed the monument, which technically is a desecration (by your standards), and she started the tugging with the girl with the red hands.

What hypocrisy, shame on you.

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Hypocrisy is trying to force this video around, when there's tons of actual war crimes filmed and uploaded every day.
Hypocrisy is conveniently closing your eyes on what's happening in the world, and even in the video you posted.
Hypocrisy is calling everyone a liar(or a nazi), trying to seem righteous yourself.

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So true,
Unbelievable how they keep pushing one event.
But stay very quiet on factual war crimes events.

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Joint statement by the President of the Republic and Prime Minister of Finland on Finland's NATO membership

Now that the moment of decision-making is near, we state our equal views, also for information to the parliamentary groups and parties. NATO membership would strengthen Finland's security. As a member of NATO, Finland would strengthen the entire defence alliance. Finland must apply for NATO membership without delay. We hope that the national steps still needed to make this decision will be taken rapidly within the next few days.

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Good-old M1A2..... Tverskaya is waiting!

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Look for "CNN obtains graphic surveillance video showing Russian forces shooting Ukrainian civilians" tweet on Twitter. No words.

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How does that sound to you - Kyiv junta to conscript women - https://buhgalter.com.ua/news/kadrova-sprava/nabrav-chinnosti-nakaz-minoboroni-yakim-zatverdzheno-noviy-perelik/ /use google translate/.

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It is actually a reduced list. Previous one contained 35 specializations, this one has only 14. There are constant debates in Ukraine about its implementation and necessity, but still, why does it concern you anyway? Aren't you from Bulgaria?

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Wasn't that a bit of old news already?
And what is the problem if Ukrainian women want to assist in aiding the country. Doesn't say anywhere that they are required to fight as well.
https://kyivindependent.com/national/explained-new-requirement-for-ukrainian-women-to-register-for-possible-military-service/
No google translate required.

Also look up the word "Junta" or show how Zelensky took power by force.

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But... but the manual didn't way what "junta" means, it only instructed to sprinkle that word here and there, just in case, along with "nazism" and the other interesting words ;)

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76 days later, they are pushing part of the Russians back into Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eID9dbFgqX0

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This war is all but lost for Russia.
Even if they send more troops to Ukraine.
Ukraine is so flush with superior weapons and let's be honest the Russians have shown complete incompetence when it comes to strategy.

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Some news from UN Human Rights Council.

Russia in spotlight over Ukraine atrocities as Human Rights Council meets
Human Rights Council Adopts Resolution on the Deteriorating Human Rights Situation in Ukraine and Closes Special Session

The results of the vote are as follows:
 
In favour (33): Argentina, Benin, Brazil, Cote d’Ivoire, Czech Republic, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Germany, Honduras, Indonesia, Japan, Libya, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malaysia, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mexico, Montenegro, Nepal, Netherlands, Paraguay, Poland, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Somalia, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom and United States.
 
Against (2): China and Eritrea.
 
Abstentions (12): Armenia, Bolivia, Cameroon, Cuba, India, Kazakhstan, Namibia, Pakistan, Senegal, Sudan, Uzbekistan and Venezuela.

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It's a shame that China, run by a small group of communist elites that were never elected by the people, voted against it.
Should we have a true democracy here, the nation will surely stand with Ukraine just as Taiwan does.

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It's a shame to be together with Eritrea, Syria and other world garbage regimes

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https://youtu.be/BL4GJN7dY2o

Apparently, Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant was captured as an HQ for a Russian general who (quite reasonably) thought it to be the safest place in the area (for his own safety from artillery strikes and counter-offensives). I always felt strange about Monolith soldiers in Stalker, but now I think the game made so much sense. xD

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It is quite logical, no side would ever risk firing upon a nuclear plant - everebody loses if that happens.

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