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Feb 23 2022: Original post

As a Russian-speaking Ukrainian currently living in Poland, I have a complicated relationship with my home country. I have relatives and friends hailing from Russia; half of my family speaks Russian. Everybody in my school in Kyiv (i.e. Kiev) spoke Russian back in the early 2000s. It is true, there are millions of Russian-speaking Ukrainians. But just so you know, Ukraine is not a part of Russia; it was not created by fucking Lenin. Many Ukrainians have never been and do not want to go to Russia or be its part. The language vs. culture question is absurd. The Russian language was forced upon Ukrainians for centuries, and still, Ukrainians are different culturally. The mad tsar Putin is literally a blackmailer who imposes fear and anxiety on the entire Ukrainian nation. Everyone I know back in Kyiv prepares alarm briefcases with water and medicines, just in case of bombing, or plans to move, as I did after 2014. This is a fucking nightmare. I have anxieties of my own; I cannot stand this shit anymore. Please! This is an awareness thread. You have to know.
Ukraine is not Russia and does not want to be a part of it!

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Feb 24 2022: Update

It happened. Russia invades Ukraine with another idiotic pretext of 'liberating'. To all the people who support Putin, you are accomplices of yet another crime and ensuing killings. You are responsible. Sleep well with that in mind.


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У Беларусі забаронены продаж рамана Оруэла «1984»

«Зняць з продажу ўсе варыянты кнігі Оруэл Д. «1984». Пра выкананне далажыць не пазней за 19 мая», — гаворыцца ў распараджэнні.

Well, well, well. Some news today.

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So they asked Mininform, and Mininform (obviously) denied all allegations. Okay. :)

Also, I didn’t claim those news to be true or fake, it is just funny either way.

https://marketing.by/analitika/itogi-goda-na-oz-v-top-samykh-prodavaemykh-izdaniy-voshla-kniga-belaruskogo-blogera/
It looks like 1984 is really popular in Belarus nowadays. I wonder why.

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Let's say thanks to this stuffing.

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The same trend was reported in Russia as well.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/media/articles/2022/04/12/917826-chitat-oruella-psihologii
Though not just this year, it's been going on for years (unsurprisingly).
https://www.vedomosti.ru/media/articles/2020/01/10/820342-izdateli-prodavtsi-populyarnie
And apparently it's not unique to post-Soviet territories.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3201306

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I wonder what Orwell would say about current times because one can see echoes of his works everywhere to a different extent.

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Is there any other confirmation? All the news qoute Nashaniva.com. This site claims they have a copy of such order received by some book store. They admit they don't know if there are many shops that received such an order. They don't even say who issued the order and if it came through official channels. Was it just a spam letter of an unknown sender received by a single shop? Without the details it's a little ear;ly to say the book is banned in Belarus.

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I have found no confirmations, and all media quote exactly the article above. As I said to cement, that news are funny from either perspective, so let us just laugh from it.

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Might've been a trick by KGB, they like to do stuff like that: leak a document or a statement, it gets reported in independent media, then state media debunks the fake fabricated by the state, casting a shadow of not trustworthiness on independent media, profit.

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I wanted to have a look at the law, and couldn't find it in the open.

https://pravo.by/document/?guid=3941&p0=2022026001 - that link doesn't work (maybe a Belarussian IP needed?)
https://etalonline.by/document/?regnum=h12200165 - that one requires registration

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LOL. Banning books is so last century. Sad.

Meanwhile, back in the USA where we know how to ban things properly...
https://nypost.com/2022/05/18/biden-admin-pauses-disinformation-governance-board-report

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Even these clipmakers for the "their truth" could not resist the little meanness.

View attached image.
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hahaha nice, could have been me

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@Prosac
hahaha nice, could have been me

I don't doubt your upbringing.

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POLITICOEurope on Twitter: "Ukraine’s Digital Minister, Mykhailo Fedorov: “We have already won in the information war with Russia ... [and] our capacity to reach citizens of the Russian Federation to tell them the truth will only increase every day./ Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1526967972006449155


AP Europe on Twitter: "Germany's three governing parties plan to strip former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of his office and staff after he maintained and defended his long-standing ties with Russia despite the war in Ukraine. / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1526854990534418432


48 min ago
Setbacks in Ukraine trigger rare criticism of Russia's war effort by Russian bloggers
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-19-22/h_2c4a3688604d3e7c52e7b637eebc3d4e


Generally, Ukraine seems to be winning the information war against Russia and its attempts to disrupt the circulation of information.
We hope that the situation will remain free of internet censorship and that free speech will be guaranteed in the future.
(Beware of any hint of attempts to control information on the grounds of these global conditions.)
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Vladimir Putin 'weaponising' world's food supplies
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/18/vladimir-putin-weaponising-worlds-food-supplies/


Russia is ramping up its activities to starve the world.
There are stories circulating that some of the wheat they have taken has been shipped to Syria.
The disturbing activity related to food hoarding has been seen for several years, most notably in China last year.
Recently, India also banned wheat exports.

Humanity needs to be wary of any attempt to use food as an excuse to overreach or as a card for wicked economic diplomacy.
The only thing we can do at home would be to have a vegetable garden, but since this is the time to do it, we should try it.
🌿🥒🧄🍄🌶🥦

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Thank you kindly! Added it to the header.

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What is ruscism?
Why russia invaded Ukraine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iLpIocmCVQ

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https://youtu.be/4Ds71kjU1p4

That strange feeling when you watch Russian far-right extremists Girkin and Demushkin in 2022 talking against "Russian world" and condemning Russia's "special military operation" in Ukraine. Planet Earth is a weird place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Demushkin
https://khpg.org/en/1608809502

Actually, Demushkin's claims are consistent with what he was saying before the invasion. I wasn't aware of it.

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Yes, right now need to listen to some extremist criminal who was not allowed normal to live in Russia because of his nationalist deeds. Such people can't do anything much in our country. But since we have a democracy, such people can live in peace as long as their deeds do not begin to influence others lives. And now, you see, he decided to share the truth. C'mon.

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Yes, yes, I know. You have such a wonderful democracy. Maybe even the true democratic socialism envisioned by Orwell himself, no less. /s

As of now, Girkin and Demushkin seem to have more freedom to talk about the invasion than most Russians. I think that is mostly due to the fact that they are serving a purpose to the Kremlin. Their words will not find any widespread support just because of who they are; that means they can be an acceptable "voice of reason" that will not pose any threat to the Kremlin itself.

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Ukraine has been heroically and successfully fighting for its independence for two months. This is also two months of shame for Russia. The myth about the strength of Russia's Forces is buried in Ukrainian soil. Why is Ukraine winning and what is its superpower?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VhPDgYxiw

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Is Ukraine winning? LOL!

View attached image.
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Well, it's definitely not russia, so... =)

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26 mistakes of thinking, because of which we do not understand anything
September 2, 2020
Life
We lie to ourselves and don't notice it ourselves. It's not on purpose: that's the way the brain works. But it is in our power to understand mistakes and learn how to correct them.
https://lifehacker.ru/cognitive-bias-1/

Read it, the article is good.
And so, if someone does not see the whole picture, then not always by what is visible, then you can understand about the whole picture as a whole. There are several facts that are not taken into account are actually the main ones, although these factors may not even be presented.

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You clearly missed the point of the article yourself, and generally, it is better to read scientific papers than some blogs with unverifiable recommendations from "coaches".

As for who is winning, it is obvious that Ukrainians consider the resistance as a successful one, and why. I wouldn't call it "winning" though, considering the costs. For that logical construction, it doesn't matter what Russian aggressors think about it at all.

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Purely for information, although there are also analytical conclusions that can be easily obtained by institutions if they want to get this information. The only problem will be that it will be necessary to properly arrange the allocation of funds for this study.
And so you can apply the article itself (those theses that are voiced) to the article itself.

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Rest assured, this is just a special military operation according to the Russian media*. For Putin's self-esteem, there is nothing wrong with losing a special military operation. It's not like Putin is losing a war, he's way above that, isn't he.

*I could not check, my secret source named Bazilus has just dried up on this point. Too much pressure, I guess. Unless he was afraid to blind me with a single standard Russian media truth.(Permalink)

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You are welcome!

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If you know all the plans of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then voice them. It is impossible to draw conclusions on the part of the available information, in order to get an accurate conclusion, then you need to have all the information, not just the one that is available. It happens that 90% are available and on the basis of this they make a conclusion, but just the last 10% change the whole picture and in fact a different conclusion is obtained, but at the same moment these 10% are not available to everyone, but only to those who need it. Insider information helps a lot on the stock exchange. If we know that this mine will come across a rich vein in 2 days, then the shares will go up, if we know this, we can buy shares in advance to sell them at the peak.

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Don't ask for the date of Putin's withdrawal, I don't know. I'm not even sure that withdrawal will be his decision, he could be betrayed by his own camp, replaced, assassinated or overthrown by the Russians.

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don't they poison their famous people, when they want to get rid of them?

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It was just bad luck. There are no biolabs in Russia, it would damage the image of the peacemaker Putin.

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LOL indeed.
March 27th - May 18th
Ed. Damn, the image became too small. Found higher res by ISW.
March 23rd - May 18th

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You will see!)
And ask the cruiser "moscow" "will Ukraine win?"))

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Ох, сколько лет вы будете об этом еще говорить? :facepalm: Ну да, это ж ведь "единственная" перемога украины за восемь лет сдерживания так называемой "российской агрессии" (но вот только РФ там и не было, до февраля 2022 года -_-)!

И эвакуация "подземной тысячи" (нацистов) из Азовстали - це победа, великой окраины! И не было никакой добровольной сдачи в плен "подземной тысячи", как об этом говорят в РФ, ибо это все, так называемая пропаганда!

Смиритесь! Украина скоро войдет в состав РФ, ну или по крайней мере часть ее, а именно ДНР, ЛНР, Крым (а, он же уже и так наш, я и забыл), Херсонская область, и тд ! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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As soon as the land lease is fully operational, you will see everything!

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О, влажные фантазии! Уже восемь лет об этом в украине говорят, что вот вот, и победим! Но что-то победы не предвидится. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Just wait, and you will see all!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va8VTrNl_xY
Land lease is not the magical bullet. It makes it easier for the US to send equipment without a single senator that blocks everything.

But same as you, I hope for the destruction of the Rus in Ukraine.

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I know, but it give our country chance to win this war!

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Keep fighting the good fight Ukraine!
The free world is with you.

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Thanks!

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@Gtashnic
Ukraine has been heroically and successfully fighting for its independence for two months. This is also two months of shame for Russia.

Another ukrainian propaganda video about the future glorious victory of Ukraine. And where are the real humanity words that it is necessary to free the Ukrainian fellow citizens whom the evil Russians are deporting to Siberia to mine timber and coal. Where words about needed save every Ukrainian wives, childrens and olds from Russian orcs? Why losted true humanity words?

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I think you missed the point of the video, it was right there in all caps, and in contrasting colours. Here, maybe with only starting letters capitalized it will be easier to apprehend for you: #ArmUkraineNow.

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As soon as the land lease is fully operational, you will see everything!

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Russia is doing just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dIjrNwXgrU

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Everything is fine in Russia, don't worry.
There a good saying is: "whatever is done, everything is for the better".

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the more inflation the merrier, right?

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@Prosac
the more inflation the merrier, right?

Again you with your "jokes".

But I will answer you, the meaning of the saying is that no matter what just happens, it has already happened, you need to live on and solve the consequences of what happened. Perhaps this russian proverb with english words this not very clear.

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"Whatever happens, happens for the best".
A famous Billie Holiday's song, recorded in March 21, 1939 - https://youtu.be/PjtWKiWHNxQ

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ah i see, so it's more like a call for preservance, good luck

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*Russia Gov media
Государственная Дума – Telegram
https://t.me/s/duma_gov_ru

Внесен законопроект, исключающий возрастной предел для желающих заключить контракт на прохождение военной службы.

📍Что предлагается
Заключать первый контракт на военную службу смогут россияне старше сорока лет и иностранцы старше тридцати.

📍Как это устроено сейчас
Сегодня первый контракт о прохождении военной службы вправе заключать российские граждане в возрасте от 18 до 40 лет и иностранцы в возрасте от 18 до 30 лет.

📍Зачем нужны изменения
«Для применения высокоточного оружия, эксплуатации вооружения и военной техники необходимы высокопрофессиональные специалисты. Опыт показывает, что таковыми они становятся к 40–45 годам», — говорится в пояснительной записке.

Прочитать полный документ можно по ссылке.


The Russian lower house of parliament has eliminated the 40-year age limit for "Russian conscription".

 And, as you can guess from the reasons why the change is necessary, it seems that highly skilled personnel who can use weapons have disappeared for some reason from the battlefield.

Some of them may have taken advantage of the system of reward money for surrendering tanks and other weapons to Ukraine.

This may also be a way of filling the gap between the two countries as the war is becoming a protracted one.
Inevitably, the labor force of Russian farmers will be taken into the war zone and will be sharply reduced, so a sharp rise in food costs is inevitable.
It seems that the Russian people will be sacrificed more for a government that has betrayed its people. For the government's extravagance and self-preservation.

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You apparently did not understand anything from what was written:

For now In Russia, we have option:

Today, Russian citizens aged 18 to 40 and foreigners aged 18 to 30 have the right to conclude the first contract for military sevice.

It is proposed to replace the existing rule with:

"Russians over forty and foreigners over thirty will be able to conclude the first contract for military service."

Explanation of the reason for this change:

For the use of high-precision weapons, the operation of weapons and military equipment, highly professional specialists are needed. Experience shows that they become such by the age of 40–45.

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Yeah, pure coincidence that Russia gained this insight right during their first war in decades where they suffer heavy casualties. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Well, if you believe the main staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the losses are such that the operation should already be curtailed. But as usual, these are exaggerations. But you have to say positive news for your electorate. As you can see. then no one talks about their losses, only about the enemy's losses.

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@Golwar
Yeah, pure coincidence that Russia gained this insight right during their first war in decades where they suffer heavy casualties. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Deeper understanding any things comes during practice, you can theorize as much as you like, but in mostly reality it turns out not as theoretics thinked.

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I'm not sure which kind of "deeper understanding" you relate to people in their 40s having a greater experience than youngsters. But if the Russian military really had to go to war first to figure that out, we probably shouldn't be too surprised about their general "performance".

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@Golwar
I'm not sure which kind of "deeper understanding" you relate to people in their 40s having a greater experience than youngsters.

Young guys are hot and fast, such people first act, then think about the consequences. But if the decision have affects in futute on a people destinies, this decision should make it by a wise and experienced person.

You don't think so?

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you mean, older people don't behave like OrcZ?

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@Prosac
you mean, older people don't behave like OrcZ?

I will ignore your nonsense in the future. Next my answer to you, gonna lead to this post.

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i already ignore YOUR nonsene for weeks now

you also seem schizophrenic to me, one time you admit being brainwashed and recognize the special military operation for what it is (a war) and then the other day you just deny everything and tell us the usual propaganda, do you share your account?

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@Prosac
i already ignore YOUR nonsene for weeks now

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@Prosac
you also seem schizophrenic to me, one time you admit being brainwashed and recognize the special military operation for what it is (a war) and then the other day you just deny everything and tell us the usual propaganda, do you share your account?

As i already answered past, i don't care what do you think and in what exactly you want to believe. Everything is personal choose by yourself.

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war? air-bombing cities like in WW2? or nuclear bombs like in Japan? LOL
this is special operation, not war.
war never changes.

Blacklists confirms that, LOL

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do they air-bomb cities like in WW2 or use nuclear bombs like in Japan in the many wars in Africa or the middle east? LOL

what blacklists are you talking about?

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peace, brother =)

i just hit enter and got 2 blacklists now =)))

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happens, when you spread russian propaganda

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i mean we (Russians) have weapons for... (war) and we dont use it. that mean its not war.

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i see, you say you use other terminology for calling a war a war

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i mean we (Russians) have weapons for... (war) and we dont use it. that mean its not war.

Just so you know, technically Germany never actually declared war against USSR, as strange as it may sound. Does that make it any less of a war?

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@ngrazer
Just so you know, technically Germany never actually declared war against USSR, as strange as it may sound. Does that make it any less of a war?

O'rly?

The last paragraph from the declaration of June 22, 1941, which was made by the Ambassador of Nazi Germany to the USSR Werner von der Schulenburg to the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the USSR V. M. Molotov. But when it happened hostilities had already been going on for several hours.

Summarizing the above, the imperial government declares that the Soviet government, contrary to its obligations:
1) not only continued, but intensified their attempts to undermine Germany and Europe;
2) led an increasingly anti-German policy;
3) concentrated all its troops on the German border in full combat readiness. Thus, the Soviet government has violated the treaties with Germany and intends to attack Germany from the rear, while she is fighting for her existence. The Fuehrer therefore ordered the German armed forces to counter this threat with all the means at their disposal.

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Yeah rly. Re-read what you just highlighted. Do you see 'declare/wage war against USSR' anywhere? Nope, just 'counter the threat with all means'.

For the sake of comparison, here's Putin's speech.

I would like to be clear and straightforward: in the current circumstances, when our proposals for an equal dialogue on fundamental issues have actually remained unanswered by the United States and NATO when the level of threats to our country has increased significantly, Russia has every right to respond in order to ensure its security.
That is exactly what we will do.

Pretty similar, don't you think? :)

Ed. Forgot to add. That's what Declaration of war looks like.

The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.

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Whoops. "Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events, is purely coincidental."

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@Q09066930
Whoops. "Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events, is purely coincidental."

"No need to try to pull an owl on the globe", all the words many times were spoken before our birth, whatever you or I wrote, it already happened. But we continue live.

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@ngrazer
Yeah rly. Re-read what you just highlighted. Do you see 'declare/wage war against USSR' anywhere? Nope, just 'counter the threat with all means'.

Yeah, reread it carefully.

And seems you missed this from Putin's speech:

"In this regard, in accordance with Article 51 of Part 7 of the UN Charter, with the sanction of the Federation Council of Russia and in pursuance of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance ratified by the Federal Assembly on February 22 this year with the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic, I decided to conduct a special military operation.
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Its goal is to protect people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide by the Kyiv regime for eight years. And for this we will strive for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, as well as bringing to justice those who committed numerous, bloody crimes against civilians, including citizens of the Russian Federation."

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Yeah, reread it carefully.

Which part exactly? Provide an actual citation of a part that clearly says that Germany declares war on USSR.

As for Putin's speech, what made you believe I missed that part? It's an excuse for invasion, nothing more, nothing less. Here's Hitler's excuse for invasion of Poland for the sake of comparison:

These proposals have been refused. Not only were they answered first with mobilization, but with increased terror and pressure against our German compatriots and with a slow strangling of the Free City of Danzig - economically, politically, and in recent weeks by military and transport means.
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Poland has directed its attacks against the Free City of Danzig. Moreover, Poland was not prepared to settle the Corridor question in a reasonable way which would be equitable to both parties, and she did not think of keeping her obligations to minorities.
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For four months I have calmly watched developments, although I never ceased to give warnings. In the last few days I have increased these warnings. I informed the Polish Ambassador three weeks ago that if Poland continued to send to Danzig notes in the form of ultimata, and if on the Polish side an end was not put to Customs measures destined to ruin Danzig's trade, then the Reich could not remain inactive. I left no doubt that people who wanted to compare the Germany of to-day with the former Germany would be deceiving themselves.
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In this I will take the necessary measures to se that they do not contradict the proposals I have already made known in the Reichstag itself to the rest of the world, that is to say, I will not war against women and children. I have ordered my air force to restrict itself to attacks on military objectives. If, however, the enemy thinks he can form that draw carte blanche on his side to fight by the other methods he will receive an answer that will deprive him of hearing and sight.

The history repeats itself.

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The history repeats itself.

Agreed, history cyclic as always.

Believe whatever you want. We talked about specific actions, but you reduce everything to comparison with Adolf Hitler. This is rather strange.

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strange for you to understand that Putin behaves like the same?
An imperialistic warmonger, who bullys little neighbouring countries around

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@Prosac
strange for you to understand that Putin behaves like the same?
An imperialistic warmonger, who bullys little neighbouring countries around

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thanks, will add that to the user report because of spam

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Exactly
Nothing strange here about Hitler, it's just a prime example of how war is actually staying a war, despite the fact that aggressor refuse to call it that way.

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@ngrazer
Nothing strange here about Hitler, it's just a prime example of how war is actually staying a war, despite the fact that aggressor refuse to call it that way.

You have a fad about Hitler, hope you not compare everything with him.

What exactly you want from word "war"? If someone start calling "special military operation" by "war", something gonna changed? No!

Instead of ranting, you would do something if it bothers you that much, nothing will change from simple talking.

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Why so butthurt lol? Triggered because "special military operation" turned out to be an actual war and not what propaganda tries to make it seem to be?

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@ngrazer
Why so butthurt lol? Triggered because "special military operation" turned out to be an actual war and not what propaganda tries to make it seem to be?

Yeah, why you so triggered on this words. Call it what you want, why you cared about how it called by other?

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Why wouldn't I? People are killed, and the amount of propaganda lies is off the charts. People have all the rights to know the truth. Does that answer your question?

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Why wouldn't I? People are killed, and the amount of propaganda lies is off the charts. People have all the rights to know the truth. Does that answer your question?

So, if someone says word "war", after that he immediately understand everything and know the real truth? I doubt.

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No, but that's a small step towards the right direction, which is already more than nothing.

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propaganda? u mean USA didnt bombed Japan with nuclear bombs? umm, okay maybe im brainwashed ye.

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you know exactly what i'm talking about, don't distort
how could that even be russian propaganda, that doesn't make any sense at all

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cheers =)
drink beers? lets drink some and relax =)))

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Забей, @Prosac все время тянет время и юлит без остановки. =)

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are you working overtime this weekend?

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@Prosac
are you working overtime this weekend?

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yeah right, instead of just ignoring me right away, you just spam your Permalink, if wonder if this is against the rules

the other person, who accused you of things here https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/TYPU1lG was right

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@Prosac
yeah right, instead of just ignoring me right away, you just spam your Permalink, if wonder if this is against the rules

Check it by youself, made report and we will see.

@Prosac
the other person, who accused you of things

My personal imho @seli is someone alt, that why i neven answered him. If he want stay hide, this is his choice.

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i won't make a report, which will be resolved in 2 months.

Spam. Do not repeatedly post content to increase visibility.

it doesn't matter if seli is an alt or not, i'm referring to his accusation and you're flooding with off topic a lot

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Spam. Do not repeatedly post content to increase visibility.

That's the point, I'm not repeating my post, but providing a link to it.

@Prosac
it doesn't matter if seli is an alt or not, i'm referring to his accusation and you're flooding with off topic a lot

Flooding here is clearly someone else. Not sure, maybe someone who asked me lot of strange questions. =)

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no? you're repeating my post and repeating your link, thats a double repeat and provides no additional value for no other reason then to cause flooding of the thread.

I ask questions to understand your posts better, but you rather not answer them and distort the discussion to flood the thread

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no? you're repeating my post and repeating your link, thats a double repeat and provides no additional value for no other reason then to cause flooding of the thread.

Report me already or stop repeating this flood.

@Prosac
I ask questions to understand your posts better, but you rather not answer them and distort the discussion to flood the thread

I answer as I see fit, if you do not like it, do not ask your questions to me.

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flooder complains about flood, i can see parallels to your country there

i never complained about you not answering, did i? I draw my own conclusions from it.

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I draw my own conclusions from it.

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Увага, старый пердун совкодрочер всё ещё срёт в треде. Do not reply to Bazilius, he is Z-tard

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yeah, like instead of really ignoring me, you continue with spamming the same thing, flooding further and bother me with spam replies

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"US bombed Japan in WW2 80 years ago so we can bomb any country we want now!"
that's how Putin's vatniks logic works

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Everyone knows USA dropped nuclear bombs on Japan in WW2. Everyone knows what Nazi Germany did, and everyone knows Russia freaking invaded Ukraine in 2022. And we all know they will not stop this war as long as Putin is in charge. He may not care for all the people dying on both sides in this war, but he sure cares enough for his ego, hence there is no way for him to end it at this state.

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war? air-bombing cities like in WW2? or nuclear bombs like in Japan? LOL
this is special operation, not war.
war never changes.

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On 30 November 1939, Soviet forces invaded Finland with 21 divisions, totalling 450,000 men, and bombed Helsinki, killing about 100 citizens and destroying more than 50 buildings. In response to international criticism, Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov stated that the Soviet Air Force was not bombing Finnish cities but rather dropping humanitarian aid to the starving Finnish population; they were sarcastically dubbed Molotov bread baskets by Finns.

Yep. War never changes.

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thanks for this anecdote, i see making up bullshit has a history in russia

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@Q09066930
On 30 November 1939, Soviet forces invaded Finland with 21 divisions, totalling 450,000 men, and bombed Helsinki, killing about 100 citizens and destroying more than 50 buildings. In response to international criticism, Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov stated that the Soviet Air Force was not bombing Finnish cities but rather dropping humanitarian aid to the starving Finnish population; they were sarcastically dubbed Molotov bread baskets by Finns.

Not sure where you got this text, but by searching i don't find bolded text. But found this interesting publication.

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Apparently, those numbers are mentioned in books "Helsinki sodassa" (1985) by Aake Pesonen and "Yön yli päivään - Suomen ilmatorjunnan vaiheita 1925-1990" (1989) by Pentti Palmu if that what you want to know. Probably, someone from Finland can say more on their origins.

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Thanks, gonna look on it.

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so will you finally join the Z warriors on the field to prove your heroism? please tell me you will, don't let us down.

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so will you finally join the Z warriors on the field to prove your heroism? please tell me you will, don't let us down.

If my country declares war officially, then I will be obliged to appear at the draft board after receiving the summons. According to the my military card, I am an ordinary soldier.

Can this can happen someday, of course. But it seems to me that there are no prerequisites for this yet.

And yes, i'm gonna visit draft board if receiving the summons.

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No need to wait, be a true patriot https://hh.ru/employer/1754570

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And of course, the consideration of the bill does not mean its adoption. Wait and see.

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It is simple.
If you don't agree, you are a 🇺🇦 friend.
The 🇺🇦 ally is a non-citizen, which makes his family and relatives enemies of the Russian government.

The world's past history has proven that such a simple "imposition of wartime values" is carried out against "war averse citizens" and that they are forcibly conscripted into military service.
This should not be allowed to happen in developed countries or in modern society. :(

I hope it will not be "fixed(adoption)" as you say.
Unfortunately, if passed, my concerns will come true.

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@Kappaking
The world's past history has proven that such a simple "imposition of wartime values" is carried out against "war averse citizens" and that they are forcibly conscripted into military service.
This should not be allowed to happen in developed countries or in modern society. :(

I don’t understand what you mean, but the conclusion of a military contract in Russia is exclusively on a voluntary basis, if you don’t want to, don't conclude it. No one gonna be punished for that.

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*Russia Gov media
Совет Федерации РФ поддержал отмену возрастного предела для службы в армии по контракту
https://grodno24.com/2022/05/sovet-federacii-rf-podderzhal-otmenu-vozrastnogo-predela-dlya-sluzhby-v-armii-po-kontraktu.html


*Russia Gov media
Государственная Дума – Telegram
https://t.me/s/duma_gov_ru

Госдума отменила верхний возрастной предел для прохождения военной службы по контракту.

Раньше первый контракт о прохождении военной службы были вправе заключить граждане РФ в возрасте до 40 лет, а иностранцы — до 30 лет.

Новый закон будет способствовать привлечению специалистов востребованных специальностей, прежде всего родственных гражданским, — медицинского обеспечения, инженерных, технического обслуживания, эксплуатации, связи и др. — на военную службу по контракту.

«Нам надо укреплять Вооруженные силы, помогать Министерству обороны. Наш Верховный главнокомандующий все делает для того, чтобы армия побеждала и повышала свою эффективность», — отметил Председатель ГД Вячеслав Володин.


Al Arabiya English on Twitter: "President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree simplifying the process for residents of #Ukraine’s Russian-occupied Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions to acquire #Russia's citizenship and passports." / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1529567984808873985


With the passage of the bill, there will be more forced mobilizations in the name of conscription in the future.
In the immediate future, there is a move to issue Russian citizenship, along with passports, around Russian invasions in frontline areas to make them eligible for conscription.

The fact that it was approved in such a short period of time after the earlier concerns is something to consider how urgent the situation is for Russia.💉🐻🏥

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Grandfathers are to fight: Putin signs a law admitting people to the army under contract up to age 65
https://news.yahoo.com/grandfathers-fight-putin-signs-law-100548454.html


Telegram: Contact @tass_agency
https://t.me/tass_agency/137833

⚡️Путин подписал закон об отмене возрастного предела для заключения первого контракта с ВС РФ.


 We are told that we can refuse, but we can only guess what the reality is.
Perhaps Russian citizens will be living on the battlefield all the way to age 65 for men and 60 for women.
 It seems that the time is approaching when those who do not want that to happen really have to act.
After a few months, with no supplies, hunger, or means of transportation, it will be too late to regret it.

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@Kappaking
Grandfathers are to fight: Putin signs a law admitting people to the army under contract up to age 65

Another invention, a week ago when you raised this topic, I wrote explanations. Why do you keep trying to distort the essence of change. Permalink

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@Kappaking
With the passage of the bill, there will be more forced mobilizations in the name of conscription in the future.

Still no one forced mobilization happened in Russia.

In Russia military service after reaching the age of 18 required by law. Military conscription in Russia takes place twice a year at the same time: spring - from April 1 to July 15, autumn - from October 1 to December 31. Young conscripts first go through a year of training and then serve for a year in the military with specialty they have received.

Do not confuse this with forced mobilization!

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I can only say i dislike war and every war monger. Listen to this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmI_FT4YHU

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Hopefully you hate leaders that cannot compromise, alliances that fund the continuation of death, and the globalist influence that steals power from the rightful owners of countries.

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Could you please be more specific on how that relates to Russia's invasion of Ukraine? Because without specifics, your righteous commentary is nothing more than a puddle fart.

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Globalist installation of anti Russia leadership. The war would not be continuing without continued aid from the new soviet union people call NATO. You can continue being a child when it comes to criticizing your precious virtue signal but without endless funding and backing Ukraine would lose it's right to continue to exist.

Not everyone is going to cheerlead the war you're "winning" while appreciating funds being stolen from them by installed globalist aligned dictators. Hopefully you'll get deleted by a grateful criminal you guys released into this war, that way I wont have to read another line of your spoiled petulant rubbish.

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Big yikes, mate.
So in short, you'd rather see Ukraine succumb to russia's forces, people get killed, raped, country get torn apart, only to save some money. That's some high horse thinking, right here.

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Yes.

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So it's NATO's and not the attacker's fault that the war is raging, because they support a sovereign nation's defese?

Sounds a little stupid, no?

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"Stop resisting and let the rapist do his thing"
This is how that shit sounds.

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I'm pretty sure that's how they wish it would turn out to... Good that it doesn't

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And you consider yourself anti-war by telling people their country should "lose right to continue to exist" because another country decided so and started a genocidal war? And "hopefully you'll get deleted by a grateful criminal" because we are opposing it? Well, well, well. Some anti-war position, all right.

Also, if you are so anti-globalist, how come you are writing on the international forum on the Internet (a global system) and using Steam (a corporation that reserves rights to every game you have bought)? Some anti-globalist here. I am fairly certain that if you were exposed to some true anti-globalism like in North Korea, you wouldn't be happy. Funnily enough, even North Korea itself has anti-anti-globalist notions since 2000s.

As for your statements in general, I doubt you want to hear opinions, so I will not reply to them.

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You countered none of my points because it's true. Without backing your leader would have folded.

Also hoping misfortune befalls you for your rude remarks has little to do with this war.

Now you just keep percolating in your filth, pig!

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i see, a hot candidate looking for a ban

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You contribute nothing but trolling. Anyone with eyes can see Q09066930 invited the animosity.

So mind your own business.

Let's keep in mind, you're siding with a user that has promoted DDOSing Russian targets earlier in this very discussion thread. He has no moral high ground while promoting illegal activity.

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while you are using insults, hate speech and express your hope he gets "deleted"

shows who is the real scum here

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Maybe charity cases shouldn't be so egregious in their malice toward others in the future.

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no one understands the twisted brainwashed crap you're trying to say

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My suggesting, do not much pay attention to @Prosac, he has only one goal to piss off the interlocutor. Although he it disguises itself as an interested dunno.

Lot of users in this topic trying just for piss off others. Be in dzen.

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Aren't you against insults and hate speeches? Or that only counts in one direction?

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@Q09066930
Aren't you against insults and hate speeches? Or that only counts in one direction?

I'm sad if you interpret my words in this way. I apologize.

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I'm sad if you interpret my words in this way. I apologize.

I am talking about Chaotikizm, not you describing your assessment of other users. You seem to be okay with what that person wrote above.

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his assessment is for the sole purpose of just creating more flood
never answers questions and distorts, when he lacks arguments

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We all know what we think of each other. I'm curious why Bazilus chose to back up that person, though, considering that they were consistent in the desire to maintain discussion civilized.

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This is just a warning, nothing more.

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You contribute nothing but trolling. Anyone with eyes can see Q09066930 invited the animosity.

I invited you to elaborate on your opinion. Animosity was already on your mind when you answered the peaceful anti-war message with your anti-globalist nonsense.

Let's keep in mind, you're siding with a user that has promoted DDOSing Russian targets earlier in this very discussion thread.

Not exactly true. I said there is a way to do it by playing a game if that is what a person is interested in. That is a piece of open-source information published in the press.

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I countered none of your points because your points make no sense. But okay. No problem.

Globalist installation of anti Russia leadership.

That statement has no value. "Globalist installation" is a general term for nothing. The anti-Russian sentiment is strong in Ukraine for obvious reasons; you don't need globalists for it to be there. Also, before 2014, that sentiment was anti-Soviet and anti-communist, not anti-Russian.

The war would not be continuing without continued aid from the new soviet union people call NATO.

It would, as a partisan resistance. And your comparison makes no sense: the Soviet Union was a state, while NATO is a military alliance. Also, Ukraine was never going to join NATO before Russia annexed Crimea and started covert military operations in Donbas. The people of Ukraine were against NATO by a wide margin. Look at the polls.

You can continue being a child when it comes to criticizing your precious virtue signal but without endless funding and backing Ukraine would lose it's right to continue to exist.

Sorry to inform you, but I can continue doing what I want.

Not everyone is going to cheerlead the war you're "winning" while appreciating funds being stolen from them by installed globalist aligned dictators.

Those are false assumptions based on manipulative sentence construction. No one asks you to cheerlead over anything. Also, Ukraine had democratic elections; no dictators. And who stole what from you, I am not sure. The US government? Illuminati? Aliens?

Hopefully you'll get deleted by a grateful criminal you guys released into this war, that way I wont have to read another line of your spoiled petulant rubbish.

I am not sure why you think that you have to read anything here, especially if you want us "to be deleted".

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US Senate REJECTS $48 Billion Aid Package For Small Businesses and Restaurants Just Hours After Approving ANOTHER $40 Billion for Ukraine. Our leaders don't align with the interests of the people that live here. The people who support Ukraine in the west didn't know the country existed last year.

I didn't mince words- I'm talking about you, you think you can act rude to anyone who isn't going against their own interests in your favor, so don't attempt to misconstrue my dislike for you specifically. Not "us", YOU.

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US Senate REJECTS $48 Billion Aid Package For Small Businesses and Restaurants Just Hours After Approving ANOTHER $40 Billion for Ukraine. Our leaders don't align with the interests of the people that live here. The people who support Ukraine in the west didn't know the country existed last year.

I am not sure what you want me to do with it. If that personally affects your well-being, I am sorry.

I didn't mince words- I'm talking about you, you think you can act rude to anyone who isn't going against their own interests in your favor, so don't attempt to misconstrue my dislike for you specifically.

Disagreeing with opinions and criticizing inconsistent beliefs is not rudeness; your insults are. I agree that sometimes I am being rude, though.

Not "us", YOU.

And? I don't care. People wished me and my family death in this very thread, called me different things, dehumanized and insulted me based on ethnicity. There is war against my home country. What you think of me is of no importance.

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So you're ok with illegal activity and you're willing to lie to get sympathy.

Professional victim. I hope it does addle your mental health in these trying times.

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Whew. Some messy stuff, mate. Every vile word you say will stay on your conscious. Good luck with that.

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Imagine the savings if Putin didn't attack Ukraine.
You are preoccupied with American politics, maybe you are American.
There's one thing you need to remember, you have the right to protest in America. You can get together with other like-minded people and start a street protest.

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Poor rapists should do their job without resistance, right dear vatnik?

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That's what is happening to America. 40 Billion raped away during a recession laundered through that crooked country.

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yeah yeah, bad America forced peaceful guys like Putin, Hitler, Saddam, Kaddafi and other disctator sнit to attack their neighbors...

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Ukraine is dead weight. it's a debt that will never be repaid.

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wouldn't that count for both sides?

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I don't like anyone that wages war.

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Great song. Thank you for sharing.

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Yes it is a classic anti war song by a great artist.

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Coincidence? I don't think so...

https://imgur.com/g2KQsWU

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the link seems broken

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Try add .png

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It worked, thanks

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https://perito-burrito.com/uploads/content_image/6547/medium_443434.jpg
Although according to other data, it is possible to drink in Latvia, but Lithuania and Estonia have remained banned. And Hungary and Slovakia have already filed an appeal. This is not mine, I warn you right away, this is from the Council of the American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

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https://amnesty-borodyanka.holoscribe.site/

Amnesty International’s Crisis Evidence Lab has been working hard to identify and verify the details of possible unlawful attacks which have killed or injured civilians, and destroyed or damaged civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.
View the evidence in 360 degrees. Find out more about the attacks on apartment building in Borodyanka and see the evidence for yourself.

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Such a sweet and beautiful song. Too bad you guys think that you can deny other nations their cultural identity in their own countries instead of preserving and cherishing yours with respect to others.

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Looking like he wants to compete.. pity he didn't think of posting his culture first... maybe we should hold a voting contest - which songs get liked more ))))

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@ikkiyakki
Looking like he wants to compete.. pity he didn't think of posting his culture first... maybe we should hold a voting contest - which songs get liked more ))))

Art is not a competition. You either enjoy the current masterpiece or move on to the next.

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Then 1 obvious question stays - why didn't you just move on after my post?

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@ikkiyakki
Then 1 obvious question stays - why didn't you just move on after my post?

Because I love folk art too and I added my minute to your.

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Is this a "Russia awareness thread"? Sorry, i didn't notice......
Do consider making your own threads (even topics) to admire art.
Whatever the outcome, one certain thing follows - the 2 cultures get massively separated for good.

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Is this a "Russia awareness thread"? Sorry, i didn't notice......

Actually, the song of 1953 is the joint heritage of Ukraine and Russia, then we were a single country.

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Your nostalgic resentiment is understandable, still i hope you make your own thread and see how much interest it gets.

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@Q09066930
Such a sweet and beautiful song. Too bad you guys think that you can deny other nations their cultural identity in their own countries instead of preserving and cherishing yours with respect to others.

So, is not you who deny the cultural heritage of the Soviet Union in/on Ukraine and try get rid of it for more than a years.

In Russia, all cultural identity of the peoples living on the territory of modern Russia are protected and honored, by the way, Ukrainian culture too.

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Ukrainian culture has no need to be preserved by any other nation, it's well enough in Ukraine.

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ukrainians do not preserve anything. even before the war, the whole countrie was a shithole with starving people. ukraine got millions and billions of euro and doller every year from a lot nations, even from russia, but none of that ends up, where its supposed to go. just the corrupted rich people got that money.

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I was going to say the same about russians!

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At the very least we have asphalt in most villages, and toilets inside the house. Better than great almighy russia =)

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You don't know much. There were piss-poor people, but they were not starving. That is a big difference. And telling something vile about the whole nation is a hate speech. Do you know that? People of Ukraine try to fight corruption in the country, but that is not an easy task, considering the Soviet past with its doublethink and the anarchy of the 1990s that gave rise to oligarchs and mafia.

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You perfectly described the Rus.
90 Billions a year from Europe alone for gas and oil and I have seen Russian soldiers talk about the shitholes they live in.

Clean up your own house first before pointing fingers at others.

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Their Steam profile indicates Germany. I guess that could be a genuine opinion coming from Europe, no? There is this party of anti-globalists here that seem to think that all problems are from lesser countries that are not good enough to exist, and richer countries could be more reach by not helping anyone.

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yeah, cheap as fuck oil and gas, while uktaine gets the money just because ...

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Not just because...
Just because you can't see the reason they get the monies from Russia doesn't mean they get the monies just because...

And if the oil is too cheap, raise the price.
Supply and demand theory.

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@ikkiyakki
Ukrainian culture has no need to be preserved by any other nation, it's well enough in Ukraine.

Any culture is enriched by introducing unique knowledge and cultural diversity into it. Lot of peoples live in Russia, include ukrainians, right now and before this shit started and not only they need this.

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"more than a years" - mind your grammar, hard to understand your blabberings.

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@ikkiyakki
"more than a years" - mind your grammar, hard to understand your blabberings.

Happens, english not my native as you know. I'll paraphrase: a long time.

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What a load of god damn fucking bullshit.
I might be open to discussions on your views on war and west-east relations. But stop propagating this kind of bullshit. You don't respect other country history and culture.

https://neatkariga.nra.lv/izpete/341344-krievija-demontets-piemineklis-latviesu-strelniekiem - last year you already took down a monument which was in memory for our rifleman who fell fighting. At least stop lying about this. There is not the ENG or RUS version of this article, but if anyone is interested, I suggest using DeepL for translating it.

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@ChrisKutcher
What a load of god damn fucking bullshit.
I might be open to discussions on your views on war and west-east relations. But stop propagating this kind of bullshit. You don't respect other country history and culture.

Who would say that. You personally have already told quite a lot how you relate to other people's traditions and culture in your country. Permalink

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At least I am not trying to push on you some bullshit about how we respect everything.
Also you made this happen - you invaded a sovereign country and started a war that has ruined economy and probably started a famine in a lot of countries.

Until now everyone was content with other people celebrating their own traditions. How can you not understand this. We have Russian politicians, Russian activist groups, everyone was fine with Russians celebrating their own holidays (including 9th of may). You attacked and invaded Ukraine and everyone finally realized you are no better then Soviet Union. This is expected retaliation after years of spitting on every nation that lives nearby.

The more you destroy Ukraine and try to act like its wests fault, the more your presence will be eradicated in western world (you made it happen no matter how much you try to make us look bad). The political group that represents the Russian people in Latvia has been trying to rile up Russians by telling how our government is against them. All you and these ass licking political parties filled with brain dead fuckwits who have wet dreams of soviet union will achieve is hatred towards yourself.

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@ChrisKutcher
At least I am not trying to push on you some bullshit about how we respect everything.
Also you made this happen - you invaded a sovereign country and started a war that has ruined economy and probably started a famine in a lot of countries.

Why are you making excuses? Shifting the blame to someone, what kind of kindergarten. You have not been to Russia, how do you even know how we relate to cultural heritage? From the Western media, which lot of disinforming you about other countrys. About other country, CARL! =)

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Бесполезно что либо писать. Даже на фото скажет, что это фотомонтаж, хочет слушать только тех, кому верит, остальные провокаторы, если говорят совсем другое или не подобное. Есть тут несколько кто просто не хочет принимать другую точку зрения, хотя часть хотя бы готовы выслушать, пускай даже не поверить, а это тоже многое.

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Смысл есть, услышат тебя или нет, вот это неизвестно. Я придерживаюсь стратегии, подбрасывать альтернативный взгляд на обсуждаемые ситуации. Переубедить убежденого человека вообще гиблое дело, никто не любит признаваться, что он не прав. В том числе и я, поэтому стараюсь не сильно повторяться и не спорить до хрипоты.

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1:1 and can be applied to you both as well

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Yet you keep on writing. The topic is about ongoing war your country started. No whitewashing of lawless aggression and war crimes should be permitted, yet here we are with a bunch of pro-soviet wankers who whine about simon'yan lies not being popular and their fascism ("which-is-totally-not-fascism-because-we-called-someone-else-fascist-first") not being welcome. Except with Q wankers.

If only you were a bit smarter, you'd lower your homophobia and USA-phobia, copulate with brethren from across the ocean and create a super race of wankers, Uruk-hai if you will. That'd be a real power. Luckily the world has to endure you separately for the most part, which is still annoyingly a lot.

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So let's fix it, just without falsification, and go ahead, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will accept this data with pleasure. Then they will do this to the soldiers, no, they will not give it to the civil court, but the military court will take off 9 skins after that, depending on whether there are 10 or not yet grown, and if it has grown, then it will also.
Azov, even when reporting on a foreign information channel, which was taken (with permission) from Channel 1, the entire swastika was cut out. https://www.1tv.ru/news/2022-05-21/429314-operatsiya_po_osvobozhdeniyu_zavoda_azovstal_v_mariupole_uspeshno_zavershena this is what the report was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw2fB9RCHVs is similar. Here the rhetoric has already begun to change, this is no longer "Evacuation", but "Surrendered prisoners" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQXNswj6_4I
https://smotrim.ru/article/2756439
Go ahead, tell Poland and Hungary that the judicial system and values. After that, I am ready to listen to their answer, only a truthful answer.
And I write for the reason "Someone is wrong on the Internet."

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In what way am I wrong? That you're trying to justify Russian invasion and the ongoing bloody war it unleased in Ukraine, killing thousands of civilians, making millions displaced, destroying cities, where your soldiers are pillaging, raping, torturing and occupying as much land as possible? Looks like you're trying to do just that, or at least to distract from Russian crimes.

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Jut drop trying and say "fuck you I'm out" to another Z-ombie. They can be cured in trenches, better dead.

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мне похуй, у тебя в профиле написано роzzия, твоё мнение приравнивается к говну

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Да, не умение слушать своих соотечественников это сила.

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я тебе не соотечественник, мудло

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Не про меня был разговор, а про ролик, который по ссылке. Там интервью как раз украинца или Вы уже не Украинец?

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Мужик там как раз говорит против того что ты тут высираешься. Он за сохранение жизней солдат. А ты Zа военные преступления парашной армии орков.

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В очередной раз напомним, что так, как считает это мужчина, считает, действительно, 90% украинского населения. И это даже не просто «считать так», а это всё — это так есть, и так было, и это абсолютно точно знает на Украине каждый гражданин. И все, все люди на Украине, все знают всё то, что говорит этот украинский мужчина на видео.

cement, if that was true, there would have been no need for 90 days of war. You know that. That is a big problem of the Russian propaganda and one of the reasons why the invasion was miscalculated. That man's opinion represents some percentage of Ukrainians, but like 9%, not 90%. The one thing is true - the journalist did a poor job (his astonishment and loss of words is a good illustration why that man's opinion does not represent 90% even close).

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It would be necessary to formalize it more correctly, otherwise it goes as if by my statement, and not by the "Point of View" channel.
And so you can't say that a journalist has done a bad job, there is no such thing in journalism. The work is either done or not done. If during the survey I received the wrong data that I wanted to get, then either the survey took place of those who did not need to be interviewed, or in fact the survey is lying. Usually they make a montage and just bad statements, if there are a lot of them in volume (and they are interviewed, not 1000, but about 2000, although then they can say that they interviewed 1000, although it is easier to go to the place where you can get those who need to be received more often), then they simply cut out, showing that a survey was conducted individually with each of them. And the percentage between regions may vary. Usually they just publish average data, but at the same time they are different. It's like the average temperature in a hospital. It seems to be an indicator with which you can work, but you need to look more pointwise.

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My bad, I assumed you were endorsing what that channel wrote about the video, because with that context the video might feel very different from the reality of things. As of why I think that the journalist did a poor job, it is because he could’t hold a dialogue, ultimately giving more weight to the statements of the speaker.

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Well, here, in fact, the journalist prepared for one scenario, and another scenario occurred. And if the interlocutor can argue argumentatively, and with the presentation of evidence, then it will not be very possible to convince him. Everyone sees from their own point of view and seeks to impose it on everyone else.
So in fact, the journalist did not do a bad job on the interview, but did a bad preparation for this interview. If you stay in the same environment for a long time, it will soon seem that everyone around you shares this point of view, although this is not the case.
And so I saw another interview already with Ukrainian journalists who took it from the people on both sides of the river. On the one hand, they were communicating with them on the move and 80% agreed, but when crossing the bridge, they were simply sent in Russian with the explanation that it was useless anyway and they had their own point of view, which they did not see or said they did not want to communicate.
And this video was posted in order to plant this guy from Rubezhny. The video and the appeal to the SBU that this is a signal that there are such people.

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where your soldiers are pillaging, raping, torturing

We have been asking for this for a long time, come on, you can immediately send it to the prosecutor's office. Not a mounted video, but as it is. If you think that this will be let down on the brakes, then there is a mistake, measures will be taken. And there will be a trial on this occasion. And if the munition has a number, then the number of this munition that got into the apartment building.

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хуя ты дурак, я думаю твой мозг смонтировали лет в 5

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Показатель того, что 99% роликов о преступлении обыкновенный монтаж или били сами ВСУ. Но это не секрет для всех, хотя часть смогли убедить. Т-64 снят с вооружения в России, но в потерях они есть. Правда тут случайно ролик увидел, как солдат ВСУ баллончик с белой краской в бочку горящую кидал, теперь понятно откуда эти Т-64 у России.

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пошёл нахуй

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Когда возразить нечего, то переходят на ненормативную лексику, в надежде, что противник капитулирует. Это показывает, что других аргументов нет и приведённые доводы реальны.

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пошёл нахуй ватан, с тобой говорить противопоказано

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And its okay when you do it ? How about that fabricated bullshit about how we disrespected the 9th of may here ? With the tractor and that shit ?

Somehow missed the fact no one was against people bringing the flowers in the first place. And how Russians themselves got aggressive the next days. But of course your state controlled media is so perfect at showing whats going on outside of Russia. Grow up.

Also its not "shifting blame". You are unable to accept consequences. It boggles my mind how you can so arrogantly deny Russia has done any wrongdoing. If you abuse others expect to have retaliation.

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@ChrisKutcher
And its okay when you do it ? How about that fabricated bullshit about how we disrespected the 9th of may here ? With the tractor and that shit ?

O'rly

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Yes the video had tractor cleaning up the flowers. And that makes Russians oppressed here how exactly ? Its out of context hate mongering propaganda piece. Again.

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@ChrisKutcher
Yes the video had tractor cleaning up the flowers. And that makes Russians oppressed here how exactly ? Its out of context hate mongering propaganda piece. Again.

Oh god, i'm going crying for a while. Wish a good time without me.

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Poor poor Bazilus
How are you going to survive this horrible injustice and oppression against your people

You still haven't drawn parallels with how Jews where treated by Nazis.. Surprising seeing what kind of bullshit you are being fed.

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I am for preserving Soviet buildings, monuments, and art in Ukraine, and I even participated in some campaigns. Unfortunately, if I am to choose between preserving it and ruining it to cut ties with oppressor that disregards Ukrainian identity, I will choose the latter.

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then you are a disgrace

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I am sorry to disappoint you.

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@Q09066930
I am for preserving Soviet buildings, monuments, and art in Ukraine, and I even participated in some campaigns. Unfortunately, if I am to choose between preserving it and ruining it to cut ties with oppressor that disregards Ukrainian identity, I will choose the latter.

It's terrible that because of some bunch of villains, you decide to chop off such a huge cultural heritage. People come and go, culture remains and is passed down from generation to generation.

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russian soldiers are bombing our cultural sites, and even stoop as low as to burn our study books on history and literature. Kind of says something, no?

Soviet era had some good times, but Ukraine has felt a lot of pain over that period, so it's not unthinkable to want to forget that. Now, it might have ben better to not destroy the statues, but rather take them to storage and then propose to give/sell them to those who want them (most likely in russia), but alas, this is not happening.

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@Vassay
Soviet era had some good times, but Ukraine has felt a lot of pain over that period, so it's not unthinkable to want to forget that. Now, it might have ben better to not destroy the statues, but rather take them to storage and then propose to give/sell them to those who want them (most likely in russia), but alas, this is not happening.

We have already discussed this, and I know that your history was been rewritten, so you yourself can't tell where is fiction and where is the truth (This is my personal opinion!).

You don't want to believe in my version, that's okay.

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I got this not from history, but from my own relatives (dead now) who were present to witness the atrocities. This is not some textbook bullshit, this is what people have experienced themselves, in real life. So no, I'm not believeing you, sorry.

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I'm sorry for your loss.

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Thank you.

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I agree. That is but one shade to the tragedy of this invasion. By invading, Russia destroys what is left of the Soviet and Russian sentiment in Ukraine, both physically and mentally. I wish you could understand that.

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@Q09066930
I agree. That is but one shade to the tragedy of this invasion. By invading, Russia destroys what is left of the Soviet and Russian sentiment in Ukraine, both physically and mentally. I wish you could understand that.

The consequences of this shit will fester for years. =(

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By the way, Bazilus, do you know how much cultural heritage was damaged by the war? Including Soviet heritage? How many beautiful Soviet-era modernist buildings were ruined? Here, look at that profile - https://www.instagram.com/ukrainianmodernism/ That is a person that tries to preserve Soviet-era art in Ukraine.

And I actually want to correct myself. I don't want to ruin it. I honestly want to preserve it. In museums, or as museums.

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I do not doubt your words, this is too sad. All military actions bring death and destruction with them, at all times. But such is the essence of people, when words end, fists are used.

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Above link. Buryatia, Karelia. It’s difficult on the phone, in the evening, if I don’t forget, I’ll make a link.

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Sure. Buryats are living such a rich and wonderful live that are invading Ukraine for a good salary that they could not receive in other ways. Religious people with religion that condemns violence, mind you. Those were Buryats that held a gun at my friend's father with orders to open doors with an axe. Russians are oppressing Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and many other nations that want to get rid of the pro-Russian influence. That good attitude is reserved only for those who agree to cooperate on the Kremlin terms and usually constitute the poorest or most Russified regions.

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https://youtu.be/K2-Tz_2Il_I I hope that this link is not blocked in different countries. And so this is the song "Field, Russian Field" and the author Yan Frenkel performs. If the block, then I will add "Cranes" in his own performance. https://youtu.be/vkHz60M93HY

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https://youtu.be/99-taF1dhM0 It will be even more interesting. And so this composer was born in Kyiv, although he died in Riga.

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It's not interesting, nor relevant right now, so how could it get "more interesting" afterwards?

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The song is unchanged, but the performer is more interesting. The Song and Dance Ensemble of the USSR named after A.V. Aleksandrov, now the Russian Army.

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The fact that soviet culture made it's best (almost tore it's ass apart) to "integrate" ukraineans is quite obvious, that is a part of moscow's propaganda discourse "ukraine is a part of russia". This course failed completely nowadays for good.

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Well, if they were banned, as a bunch of opponents say, then this would not have happened. They were not banned in the USSR, there was no ban, as there is no ban in Russia.

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no ban in russia, haha, i guess facebook and twitter banned themselves

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I believe that the Western media are available to you and you will be able to find the reason for blocking these resources yourself, if there are difficulties and you cannot find them, then contact again and you will find it. But after that I will understand that you do not want to look for more sources and blindly believe only the source that you have chosen.

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my point is not about reasons, sources and the other stuff you mentioned
it's about your statement, that there is no ban in russia, it's only a special blocking operation, right?

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If there is a violation and there is no reaction to requests to correct this violation, then naturally there is a block. That's why it was suggested to find the reason why they gave the lock, it says there.

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i repeat, my point was not about reasons, sources and the other stuff you mentioned

why you guys always distort and deflect?

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Then it's not clear what you want from me. There is no ban in Russia on other languages. Just if you say something, then attach the source from where you got it. And if it's about the Echo of Moscow radio company, then the broadcasting languages were indicated in the license, if you broadcast all day in the language that is not included in the license, then naturally there will be a fine.
Why a bunch of news agencies are silent, if they spread information from an unverified source (lowered from above), they will be fined.
So write in full, and not just about the fact that there is a lock in Russia.

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you came up with the thing, that there isn't any ban in russia, that's my source and to that i'm referring to

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If there is a ban on something, then this ban goes through the court, they will not impose a ban without a court, only after the court a list of sites is formed by Roskomnadzor that should be blocked.
If news agencies spread hack work under the guise of news, then these agencies are removed. You may not believe it, but it's true. CNN, Reuters, The Sun is available for viewing.
And there is also such an inscription "Some materials on the Internet may contain false information. Please be careful."

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That's bullshit and you know it just like I do. It was that way long ago, when it was just created, but since then RKN gained an authority to block any site without a court.

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If you want to believe it, then believe it. Anyway, I won't be able to convince you and everyone will remain with their opinion.

  • The blocking is carried out according to a court decision that has entered into force on the recognition of information prohibited for distribution;
  • according to a court bailiff's decision on restricting access to information discrediting honor and dignity;
  • by the decision of the executive authorities authorized by the Government, including:
    1 Ministry of Internal Affairs
    2 Rospotrebnadzor
    3 Roskomnadzor
    4 Federal Tax Service;
    5 Rosalkogolregulirovanie;
    6 Rosmolodezh.

It is also logical to include the prosecutor's office among those responsible for blocking. But it does not have independent powers to add sites to the register, but only conducts monitoring to identify resources that disseminate information for which criminal or administrative responsibility is provided. Its distribution in the Russian Federation is prohibited (Clause 6 of Article 10 of Federal Law No. 149 "On Information, Information Technologies and Information Protection"), and on this basis the prosecutor's office files an administrative lawsuit. The specific decision to block the site is still made by the court.

What can I get a "block" for?

The legislator tried to exclude outright lawlessness and total Internet censorship by defining a specific list of types of content for which the site can receive a "black mark". At the same time, a specialized body is responsible for each specific type of content. For example, the FSSP will not be able to block a site that distributes alcoholic beverages – this is only the competence of the Federal Alcohol Regulation Service. As for the reasons for blocking sites, including the distribution of content (Part 5 of art. 15.1 Federal Law No. 149): aimed at propaganda of war, incitement of national, racial or religious hatred and enmity, as well as information for which administrative or criminal liability is provided (for example, information on the sale of state-issued documents);

  • created by foreign media performing the functions of a foreign agent, without indicating that the information is distributed by such a person (court);
  • on methods and methods of creating drugs, places of their acquisition, cultivation of narcotic plants (Ministry of Internal Affairs, Roskomnadzor);
  • about methods of committing suicide and with calls for suicide (Rospotrebnadzor);
  • with pornographic images of minors (Roskomnadzor);
  • with information about a minor victim of illegal actions (Roskomnadzor, Rosmolodezh);
  • on gambling, lotteries on the Internet (FTS);
  • on the remote retail sale of alcoholic beverages, the distribution of which is restricted or prohibited (Rosalkogolregulirovaniya);
  • aimed at inducing minors to illegal actions that threaten their life or health (Rosmolodezh);
  • defaming the honor, dignity and business reputation of a citizen or organization (FSSP).

Medicines that are forbidden to be sold freely, but they are more attributed to narcotic drugs, which they are mostly not.

https://pravoved.ru/journal/dosudebnaya-blokirovka-sajtov/
https://zakon.ru/blog/2021/8/23/sudebnaya_i_vnesudebnaya_blokirovka_sajtov_kak_izbezhat

Лучше читай на русском, всё равно прекрасно его понимаешь. Обзоры показатель. Там лучше. А если сайт заблокировали, то надо уточнить. Может из-за пиратского вареза, это по суду и делают.

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I re-read my comment and found it can be interpreted wrong way, I should've specified further what I meant, sorry.

Back then RKN had no authority to block a specific site unless there was a court decision regarding that very site.

However, right now it is possible. That's just the most recent example I can think of. Right now if RKN suspects there is a piracy, pornography, drugs, 'discreditation of Russian armed forces' or any other thing from the list, they can block the site without a court decision regarding that specific site. And that's not just some mistake, this is happening on a regular basis.

I think it is also worth noting another thing, not directly related to RKN and court relations, but rather to how 'professionally' they work.
https://yt3.ggpht.com/, Google's hosting for images for profile pictures and community posts on YouTube. It's unavailable from Russia, but it's not presented in RKN's registry. But Roskomsvoboda has a record and the blocked the whole hosting site instead of one mentioned image.

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Перечислены те каналы в данной статье, которые все являлись иноагентами. Проблема в том, что если иноагент, то у него нет свободы, он вынужден писать то, что скажут. Причём это поняли при выборах в Беларусь и США. Лукашенко поливали, а вот Байдена даже не цитировали, вот как раз в этот момент и стали на них смотреть меньше.
По поводу требования писать только из официальных российских источников. Его нет, есть другое требование. Если нет источников, то берёшь российские и их брифингом, а если не хочешь, то сам посылаешь корреспондентов и уже на основе их репортажей делаешь публикацию. Надо точно знать где снимали, кто снимал, и что сняли.

The channels listed in this article are all foreign agents. The problem is that if a foreign agent, then he has no freedom, he is forced to write what they say. Moreover, this was understood during the elections to Belarus and the United States. Lukashenka was watered, but Biden was not even quoted, that's just at this moment they began to look at them less.
Regarding the requirement to write only from official Russian sources. It is not there, there is another requirement. If there are no sources, then you take the Russian ones and their briefing, and if you don't want to, then you send correspondents yourself and make a publication based on their reports. It is necessary to know exactly where they filmed, who filmed, and what was filmed.

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I see, nitpicking and offtoping. Like I said, Meduza's site or name isn't listed in the court decision, yet they have been blocked nonetheless. Why, if RKN allegedly can't ban anyone on their own without a court decision beforehand?

Still, I can address your remarks regarding their publications and how the publish them. Whenever they post something related to this war and they themselves can't check how trustworthy that information is, they put a really fcking big note at the bottom of an article.

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@ngrazer
That's bullshit and you know it just like I do. It was that way long ago, when it was just created, but since then RKN gained an authority to block any site without a court.

Roskomnadzor can't blocking sites without a court, here the its FAQ with addition numbers to articles in the Russian criminal code and other laws.

All information is open for who want to know how it works.

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Yeah, no ban.... just occupation of their land )))

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https://youtu.be/_MCaP48Guog

Walking Ukraine's destroyed towns and cities.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbwls1iJLWw&ab_channel=CNN

Russian officer that just quit Putin's war.
Him and others like him will be the hope for a future Russia.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-23-22/index.html
And the opposite kind, the disgrace of Russia.

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@codasim
Russian officer that just quit Putin's war.
Him and others like him will be the hope for a future Russia.

So, anonymos and we need to belive in that? I same can say about any officer in the world, we just talked and he just don't want show his name and want be anonymos, but he sure, Russia is who rights in this conflict. I promise that true! And?

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...and you always do exactly that!
For example yesterday's "foreign journalists in Mariupol" turned out to be.... not journalists!)))

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@ikkiyakki
...and you always do exactly that!
For example yesterday's "foreign journalists in Mariupol" turned out to be.... not journalists!)))

Everybody lies! (C) House M.D.

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'russian' and 'lie' shall be synonyms for sure

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'russian' and 'lie' shall be synonyms for sure

That is, you condemn for belonging to a specific language, not for views? This is explains your positions.

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Heigl Putler!

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Shame on you.

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No, im a proud fascist!

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Make it safe for people to share such opinions in public and you'll get to know the people. But victim-blaming is the modus operandi for you and Russia. See Ukraine.

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@Golwar
Make it safe for people to share such opinions in public and you'll get to know the people. But victim-blaming is the modus operandi for you and Russia. See Ukraine.

Excuse me, but you know about wonderful ukrainian website "peacemaker"? Try read about it.

Миротворец (сайт)

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I'll interpret your whataboutism as admission that Russia has the previously mentioned problems. Thank you.

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@Golwar
I'll interpret your whataboutism as admission that Russia has the previously mentioned problems.

Thats sad, if that's what's in your thoughts after new knowledge.

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Irrelevant knowledge for the topic, with the only purpose to deflect. And I'm sure that you are sad as your cheap tricks don't fool me.

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@Golwar
Irrelevant knowledge for the topic, with the only purpose to deflect. And I'm sure that you are sad as your cheap tricks don't fool me.

Even that not so bad.

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надо тебя внести туда кста, больно громкий. Нет треда про руzzких и срешь в Украинском? Может тебя обидели чем-то?

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https://youtu.be/oI3uWlUH0YU What shall we say about this, Ukraine no longer exists and there will be Kiev Voivodeship, Lviv Voivodeship and other provinces, or will there be Ukraine?

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We shall say thank you to the Polish people for their support and economic sacrifice. I have nothing but respect for what they do. A friend in need is a friend indeed; I am sure you know that proverb in its Russian variant. I live in Poland, as you know, and I see that people are sincere about this. They want to help, not subjugate.

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https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20220523/1034007635.html There will be no borders between countries. There are simply thoughts about the fact that there will be no country. If it's not, then I'll be happy.

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How low do you fly that you long for some other country to dissolve =) Could have dreamt of bigger things, you know

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Read my post again, I'm just against the collapse of another country. There is a suspicion that Ukraine will not be and it will enter Poland. That's what the post is about.

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Ah, I see. So that fear of Ukraine ceasing to exist is why Russia is trying hard to make it a reality? Ridiculous. You lose your reasoning, cement. Understandably so, all things considering.

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Actually, there is no fear. In 2014, they realized that Ukraine would not be in the state it was in. After the signing of the Minsk agreements. Here they are (from the OSCE website) https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/5/b/140221.pdf . If you read them carefully, then after that it becomes clear that Ukraine was sentenced to partition.

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There is no internal border control between most countries in European Union. You can drive freely from Poland to Czech Republic, for instance. That was the meaning behind those words (I hope).

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I hope so too. And so the European Union with the EAEU (oddly enough) and what they signed are slightly different things, which is where the question arose. One side is in the EU, and the other is not, that's the question of how the border control of those who travel will be carried out.

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a wise man , once said:„In times of crisis, intelligent people look for solutions, idiots look for someone to blame.“

not many people here, look for solutions.

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Neither are you, brother. Unless callnig names and getting angry is your idea of a "solution" ;)

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the solutions is pretty easy, Selenskyj should surrender and ukraine commit to neutrality. would save a lot lifes and help the world in a whole. but sure that would hurt the feelings of people, who won't help anyone at all. but sure, im the bad guy for letting a ukraine family live in my small apartment for free, and working daily to get their paperwork done, again for free.

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Why shouldn't Russia stop its offensive and pull out ? Why is it Ukraine that has to give in ?
Yes - that is a solution. But why this ? Just because ? ...

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why? because the warsaw pact

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And how about Budapest memorandum ? Russia can break deals and others cant ?

If everyone wants to join a military alliance to feel safe against you, maybe... just maybe... its your fault not the one who wants to get rid of you.

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Or maybe everybody else got invited to the party except that one unpopular kid.

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There was no real political will from Russia to integrate into NATO like ever. Also it's not like Russia was left out. I'm sure you've heard about Ostpolitik. The whole idea was to try to integrate Russia into the European economy as much as possible with the reasoning that economic ties will incentivize Russia to play nice and make military conflict too costly. Even after annexing Crimea they got away with some weak sanctions and projects like Nord Stream 2 trucked on.

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How is that a Ukrainian problem? Ukraine was against NATO by a wide margin before 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea and started covert military operation in Donbas. I have told that a couple of times already. Statistics. Ukraine was neutral and would have stayed neutral. NATO was out of the question in Ukraine. Why do you blame Ukraine and not Russia?

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Because this way he will be able to pretend he's a victim

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Well, more precisely, until 2014, and then in connection with the military coup, when Crimea left, due to the fact that he dreamed of the Soviet Union and thought that in Russia this Soviet Union would receive. That's when the fuss started. And they did not agree due to the fact that Ukraine wanted to get into the EU and get into the EAEU. After buying cheap in the community with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, and selling expensive in the EU, as well as in accordance with the preferences to buy cheap in the EU and sell expensive to the Customs Union. So we didn't agree.

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I have some questions about those polls. I'm not convinced that they prove that Ukraine would have remained neutral. There's a significant jump in pro NATO opinion between Oct 2013 and March 2014, but no data provided for that period. I'm assuming that represents a upward swing in western Ukraine, but I wonder if the numbers are subsequently skewed even higher from May 2014 onwards because Donbas and other portions of eastern Ukraine were not polled. Is that possible?
I've been wanting to ask you - why is Donbas never discussed on this thread except in the context of Russian infiltration and influence? It's like the elephant in the room. In my part of the world we get no news or opinion coming from the people who live there. At times it seems like they have no voice in this conflict and yet they seem to be close to the root cause of it. They are thought of as dupes of Russian propaganda with no agency of their own, when they are thought of at all - at least in my country. But I think that recognizing and coming to terms with their situation is pivotal to finding a peaceful solution. Wondering what you think.

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between Oct 2013 and March 2014

That was the time of Euromaidan. It was a major political crisis that resulted in military operation in Crimea, separatist uprising, and street clashes.

I'm assuming that represents a upward swing in western Ukraine, but I wonder if the numbers are subsequently skewed even higher from May 2014 onwards because Donbas and other portions of eastern Ukraine were not polled. Is that possible?

Crimea was not polled, but available territories of Donbas were polled, and the major shift was registered there. In my opinion, with Crimea and Donbas in tact, Ukraine would have never joined NATO. As you see, even after Euromaidan and exclusion of Crimea polls show pretty even situation; without Russia's aggression, people would have no reason to change their mind. I remember those sentiments pretty well - many of us wanted to join EU (although many believed that it is more of a dream because of high corruption) but not NATO.

I've been wanting to ask you - why is Donbas never discussed on this thread except in the context of Russian infiltration and influence? It's like the elephant in the room.

There were instances when we tried to discuss it with people from there and with our "pro-Kremlin team" in this discussion, but every time the dialogue stops abruptly. The question is painful for both sides for different reasons. Ukraine's army was not educated well-enough, consisted of volunteers (with some radical elements among them) and used shitty Soviet weapons, which resulted in some awful collateral damage and possible war crimes (worth to mention - from both sides). On the other side, pro-Russian separatists and Russian propaganda totally ignore multiple evidences of Russia's military involvement, both through volunteers, covert operatives (Igor Girkin) and through military formations, as well as Russia's sponsoring separatists with heavy weapons. Russia's military involvement had a major influence on the Battle of Ilovaisk that resulted in the first Minsk agreement, after that it was pretty much unsolvable as long as Russia denied everything and refused to cooperate on solution (but Russia says the same about Ukraine).

They are thought of as dupes of Russian propaganda with no agency of their own, when they are thought of at all - at least in my country. But I think that recognizing and coming to terms with their situation is pivotal to finding a peaceful solution. Wondering what you think.

The problem is, many people left those territories, with more than a million - to other parts of Ukraine. Those who stayed have Russian passports already, as Russia gave them for free and without any requirements. And, well, those are bogus republics with the agency that is strictly aligned with the Kremlin. Initially, they thought that Russia will secure them like Crimea, but that did not happen, and they were left in limbo. If not for the Kremlin's influence, I am sure Ukraine and those republics could have come to terms with some particular status for them.

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after that it was pretty much unsolvable as long as Russia denied everything and refused to cooperate on solution (but Russia says the same about Ukraine).

Russia did not refuse to cooperate, it was just that there were sanctions for interfering in domestic politics, so they did not get into the state, so that there would definitely not be this interference. Why did they constantly talk about agreements with the LDNR.

If not for the Kremlin's influence, I am sure Ukraine and those republics could have come to terms with some particular status for them.

And that would be the problem. Moreover, the leadership of Ukraine understood this very well, why they did not want to fulfill these same Minsk agreements for a very long time. The link to them was given above. If they are carried out, the collapse of the country will be inevitable. Some regions will also want a special status.

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Minsk agreements were linked to the Reports and statements post under the "War in Donbas" section long ago, in English version.

Russia did not refuse to cooperate, it was just that there were sanctions for interfering in domestic politics, so they did not get into the state, so that there would definitely not be this interference. Why did they constantly talk about agreements with the LDNR.

I am sorry, but I haven't understood that part. From my knowledge, Russian government denies any involvement to the conflict to this day.

If they are carried out, the collapse of the country will be inevitable. Some regions will also want a special status.

That might have been true in 2014, when everything was under the fog of war and covert operations, but not now. I don't know a single Ukrainian person that wants something like that. On the contrary, every doubtful person that I knew of before is strongly pro-Ukrainian now. Here, some polls - https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1111&page=1

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They are unsigned and condensed. There are 5 pages. Link to the OSCE website.

Yes, he denies that there were no officials in Ukraine. Why did they say negotiate with the LDNR, but Gunpowder declared them terrorists and did not want to negotiate, and his position is understandable. And so, sanctions were imposed on Russia regarding interference in another state and they said that if there is peace between the LDNR and Ukraine, then the sanctions will be lifted, offering to interfere in the affairs of another state, for which sanctions have already been imposed. Here everyone is trying to figure out how to do it. Intervene in the affairs of another state, but do not interfere.
Now maybe. But when carried out, peacefully, this is the main thing, the LPR and DPR receive a special status, with their own authorities, this is exactly what these Minsk agreements have, which are not very dependent on Kyiv. What will happen to Transcarpathia after? 99% they want the same thing, and this is the fragmentation of Ukraine.
In theory, all this could have been avoided, but here it’s only my opinion and it can be erroneous, but the Maidan hundreds didn’t have to go, but the negotiator had to go, and then they could agree. But I really don't know how to do it myself.

Да, отрицает, не было официальных лиц на Украине. Почему и говорили договаривайтесь с ЛДНР, но Порох их объявил террористами и договариваться не захотел, причём его позиция понятна. А так на Россию наложили санкции по поводу вмешательства в другое государство и сказали, если будет мир между ЛДНР и Украиной, то санкции снимут, предлагая вмешаться в дела другого государства, за что уже наложены санкции. Вот тут все и пытаются понять как это сделать. Вмешаться в дела другого государства, но не вмешиваться.
Сейчас может быть. А вот при выполнении, мирном, это основное, ЛНР и ДНР получают особый статус, со своими органами власти, это как раз и есть в этих Минских соглашениях, которые не очень и зависят от Киева. После что будет с Закарпатьем? 99% они захотят тоже самое, а это раздробление Украины.
По идее этого всего можно было избежать, но тут только моё мнение и оно может быть ошибочным, но не надо было ехать майданным сотням, а ехать надо было переговорщика, вот тогда и смогли бы договориться. Но на самом деле я сам не знаю как тут поступить.

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They are unsigned and condensed. There are 5 pages. Link to the OSCE website.

What do you mean condensed? There are two documents, and they literally the same as they are in Russian, just without the signatures. The one you posted above is that one: https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/UA_150212_MinskAgreement_en.pdf

Here everyone is trying to figure out how to do it. Intervene in the affairs of another state, but do not interfere.

Well, I guess that what happens when you do one thing and say some other thing. Unfortunately, Russia did not call things as they were from the very beginning (starting with little green men), making it impossible for everyone to understand what is really happening and then how to negotiate.

Now maybe. But when carried out, peacefully, this is the main thing, the LPR and DPR receive a special status, with their own authorities, this is exactly what these Minsk agreements have, which are not very dependent on Kyiv. What will happen to Transcarpathia after? 99% they want the same thing, and this is the fragmentation of Ukraine.

I have been to Transcarpathia couple of times. People there have their reservations and opinions, but not to the degree of a separation. That could be possible only with Hungary's invasion just like Russia's one.

In theory, all this could have been avoided, but here it’s only my opinion and it can be erroneous, but the Maidan hundreds didn’t have to go, but the negotiator had to go, and then they could agree. But I really don't know how to do it myself.

Many things could have been avoided. Those were uncertain times with lots of stupid decisions, including those from the government, law enforcement agencies, and people themselves. It all have been an internal matter and should have stayed internal. Anyway, there was no need to dismember the country by force if Russia considered itself an ally to Ukraine and wanted Ukraine to stay neutral. That is obvious - help Ukraine and Ukraine will stay your friend. Neutral and grateful.

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@Q09066930
Many things could have been avoided. Those were uncertain times with lots of stupid decisions, including those from the government, law enforcement agencies, and people themselves. It all have been an internal matter and should have stayed internal. Anyway, there was no need to dismember the country by force if Russia considered itself an ally to Ukraine and wanted Ukraine to stay neutral. That is obvious - help Ukraine and Ukraine will stay your friend. Neutral and grateful.

Russia will not give up Crimea, too much blood has been shed for this peninsula throughout history. Access to the Mediterranean Sea through the Black is a serious reason to fight for it. You can't not understand this.

In 2014 since the fate of the agreement on the Sevastopol base was uncertain due to the violent change of power in/on Ukraine. And also it was more precisely, everyone was the certainty that New power will never agree with Russia about this base, it was also one of the reasons for what happened.

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Russia will not give up Crimea, too much blood has been shed for this peninsula throughout history. Access to the Mediterranean Sea through the Black is a serious reason to fight for it. You can't not understand this.

Yes. That is pretty clear. Unfortunately, it was inconceivable for many Ukrainians to think that Russia could take it by force just like that. People were naïve enough. Many were strongly anti-war, anti-militarist. With friends and relatives in Russia. Ukrainians don't have that ambition of conquest and world domination. I am inclined to believe that diplomatic way was possible, even for Crimean independence if that what people really wanted. Like the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Crimea was semi-autonomous already. The problem is, we will never know the truth because the "referendum" was unlawful.

In 2014 since the fate of the agreement on the Sevastopol base was uncertain due to the violent change of power in/on Ukraine. And also it was more precisely, everyone was the certainty that New power will never agree with Russia about this base, it was one of the reasons for what happened.

Please. Those are Russian insinuations. Agreement was until 2017, with an automatic 5 years renewal option. Just like with NATO neutrality, Ukraine would have honored the agreement and probably agreed to a new one on better financial terms (ah, there was a new one already signed by Yanukovych, prolonging the lease until 2042; almost forgot about it!) By the way, the same agreement also stated that Russia was bound to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine, honor its legislation and preclude interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine; that Russian forces could operate beyond their deployment sites only after coordination with the competent agencies of Ukraine. All these conditions were violated by Russia, just like Budapest Memorandum.

Here is the text of the treaty in English

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Yes. That is pretty clear. Unfortunately, it was inconceivable for many Ukrainians to think that Russia could take it by force just like that. People were naïve enough. Many were strongly anti-war, anti-militarist. With friends and relatives in Russia. Ukrainians don't have that ambition of conquest and world domination. I am inclined to believe that diplomatic way was possible, even for Crimean independence if that what people really wanted. Like the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Crimea was semi-autonomous already. The problem is, we will never know the truth because the "referendum" was unlawful.

In this case, you and me with different views. Crimea people choosed path by them self. Calling their decision illegal is a rather sounds too strange approach, given that the Ukrainian government was changed not according to the rules, and therefore illegally.

@Q09066930
Please. Those are Russian insinuations. Agreement was until 2017, with an automatic 5 years renewal option. Just like NATO neutrality, Ukraine would have honored the agreement and probably agreed to a new one on better financial terms (ah, there was a new one already signed by Yanukovych prolonging the lease until 2042, almost forgot about its existence!) By the way, the same agreement also stated that Russia was bound to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine, honor its legislation and preclude interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine; that Russian forces could operate beyond their deployment sites only after coordination with the competent agencies of Ukraine. All these conditions were violated by Russia, just like Budapest Memorandum.

Russia no needed any "possible", only "for sure". You are talking about coordination with the competent authorities, but again at that moment the power in/on Ukraine was changed violently and illegally.

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In this case, you and me with different views. Crimea people choosed path by them self. Calling their decision illegal is a rather sounds too strange approach, given that the Ukrainian government was changed not according to the rules, and therefore illegally.

It doesn't matter what views you or me have. The referendum was unlawful. As for Ukraine's government, it simply resigned. What is unlawful about that? I think you meant the president here, not the government. Yanukovych fled the country. He was not dismissed until then. There was no way he could perform his duties anymore so there was a temporary replacement until elections. Kinda different story, no?

Russia no needed any "possible", only "for sure". You are talking about coordination with the competent authorities, but again at that moment the power in/on Ukraine was changed violently and illegally.

Russia has a story of violating treaties to ensure its interests. I am not sure why you claim that as some kind of virtue here if you seriously believe that Ukraine should deal with Russia ever again.

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It doesn't matter what views you or me have. The referendum was unlawful. As for Ukraine's government, it simply resigned. What is unlawful about that? I think you meant the president here, not the government. Yanukovych fled the country. He was not dismissed until then. There was no way he could perform his duties anymore so there was a temporary replacement until elections. Kinda different story, no?

If you say Ukraine's government simply resigned, so, same Crimea people is "simply made his choose".

@Q09066930
Russia has a story of violating treaties to ensure its interests. I am not sure why you claim that as some kind of virtue here if you seriously believe that Ukraine should deal with Russia ever again.

Virtue? Where i say something like this? Everyone all time looking for profit.

But anyway dosent matter what you or me wants, or ukrainians or russians, both country continue cooperation on various issues in the future. In world never works words "i don't want'. If any country don't want, then their people gonna lost something.

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If you say Ukraine's government simply resigned, so, same Crimea people is "simply made his choose".

The government officially resigned according to law. Azarov offered his resignation, and it was accepted by Yanukovych himself. I don't understand your point here.

Virtue? Where i say something like this? Everyone all time looking for profit.

Russia capitalized on Ukraine's crisis. By violating treaties. You don't condemn it, you write about it like it is a normal thing to do. Maybe not "virtue", but certainly like something that should be expected.

But anyway dosent matter what you or me wants, or ukrainians or russians, both country continue cooperation on various issues in the future. In world never works words "i don't want'. If any country don't want, then their people gonna lost something.

I highly doubt that. Too much blood was spilled. Many years should pass to rebuild trust again for some considerable cooperation. That is if the war even ends in the near future.

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The government officially resigned according to law. Azarov offered his resignation, and it was accepted by Yanukovych himself. I don't understand your point here.

It was the same in Crimea, everything was official, a day was appointed, all residents were warned about the event and a referendum was held. All documents on this issue are in the public domain.

@Q09066930
Russia capitalized on Ukraine's crisis. By violating treaties. You don't condemn it, you write about it like it is a normal thing to do. Maybe not "virtue", but certainly like something that should be expected.

Doesn't Ukraine profit by receiving humanitarian and military aid? Getting loans from European countries? No?

@Q09066930
I highly doubt that. Too much blood was spilled. Many years should pass to rebuild trust again for some considerable cooperation. That is if the war even ends in the near future.

I say in general, right now it possible in theory, but it’s unlikely, but in 5-10-15 years? Tight relationships will still resume.

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It was the same in Crimea, everything was official, a day was appointed, all residents were warned about the event and a referendum was held. All documents on this issue are in the public domain.

It was held with violations, without consent of the government, and the results could not be checked by the Ukrainian side. Also, pro-Ukrainian population boycotted it. Additionally, according to Girkin, it was a farce all along. Russia’s soldiers were everywhere. How I should believe in its results?

Doesn't Ukraine profit by receiving humanitarian and military aid? Getting loans from European countries? No?

Is that what you call profit? Ukraine’s economy is damaged more than Russia’s. Infrastructure is ruined. It would be profit if there was no invasion.

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It was held with violations, without consent of the government, and the results could not be checked by the Ukrainian side. Also, pro-Ukrainian population boycotted it. Additionally, according to Girkin, it was a farce all along. Russia’s soldiers were everywhere. How I should believe in its results?

So, the change of power on/in Ukraine same too did not occur without incidents.

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Is that what you call profit? Ukraine’s economy is damaged more than Russia’s. Infrastructure is ruined. It would be profit if there was no invasion.

We talks about getting profits? Why there measured about who suffered more.

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So, the change of power on/in Ukraine same too did not occur without incidents.

I can agree on that. There were "incidents", and they were sorted out. By the way, do you know that "on/in Ukraine" sounds ridiculous? That oddity does not even exist in the English language. I can understand "on Ukraine" in Russian or Polish as an established form of that language (although we say it differently in Ukraine), but why do you write that in English like "on/in Ukraine"? What purpose do you insert in that?

We talks about getting profits? Why there measured about who suffered more.

I don't understand you. Why do you call profit something that is meant to lessen the damage? It is help and support, sure, but certainly not something one could call "profit".

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I can agree on that. There were "incidents", and they were sorted out. By the way, do you know that "on/in Ukraine" sounds ridiculous? That oddity does not even exist in the English language. I can understand "on Ukraine" in Russian or Polish as an established form of that language (although we say it differently in Ukraine), but why do you write that in English like "on/in Ukraine"? What purpose do you insert in that?

There was a lot of talk about how to pronounce it correctly on russian language. So, I decided that i would keep neutrality for both sides.

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I don't understand you. Why do you call profit something that is meant to lessen the damage? It is help and support, sure, but certainly not something one could call "profit".

If we start talking in this vein, but the special military operation is just being carried out in order to reduce the damage that Ukraine has already brought and could bring in the future to the LPR and DPR.

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There was a lot of talk about how to pronounce it correctly on russian language. So, I decided that i would keep neutrality for both sides.

As I said, there is no ambiguity in English at all. As for Russian, you could either say it "on Ukraine" or "in Ukraine". The first variant is an established form (not popular in Ukraine), the second one simply shows respect to Ukrainians. "On/in Ukraine" sounds more like a ridicule then a neutral variant, especially in English. But alas, do how you want.

If we start talking in this vein, but the special military operation is just being carried out in order to reduce the damage that Ukraine has already brought and could bring in the future to the LPR and DPR.

Sigh. There is so much wrong in that sentence. No one can change a person's mind, only a person themselves.

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As I said, there is no ambiguity in English at all. As for Russian, you could either say it "on Ukraine" or "in Ukraine". The first variant is an established form (not popular in Ukraine), the second one simply shows respect to Ukrainians. "On/in Ukraine" sounds more like a ridicule then a neutral variant, especially in English. But alas, do how you want.

Got it, i'll changed in future. People in general perceive many harmless words as a challenge, this is a given. Sigh.

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No one can change a person's mind, only a person themselves.

I agree only with this part.

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Got it, i'll changed in future. People in general perceive many harmless words as a challenge, this is a given. Sigh.

Words are harmless, the context is not. If the context of Russian-Ukrainian relations would have been different, these words could have been harmless and not even worth attention. With current situation, every such detail only adds to the dissension. I indicate it to you, so you could adjust if you want. No challenge.

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Words are harmless, the context is not. If the context of Russian-Ukrainian relations would have been different, these words could have been harmless and not even worth attention. With current situation, every such detail only adds to the dissension. I indicate it to you, so you could adjust if you want. No challenge.

People byself color the context of the words, but words both meant the one meaning and continue to mean it. This is a personal perception of information by reader/listener.

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Yes, that is a popular opinion. I have also seen numerous times how you react on certain words about Russia and Russians. You don't like it when Russian soldiers are called orcs, but you are probably okay when Russians call Ukrainians khokhols despite the fact that it is a derogatory term. I see many contradictions in your statements. But then again, I don't think you will change. I indicate it because you participate in almost every post posted in this thread.

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I'm fine with calling russians orcs. This is started long time ago, before curent situation. There is a theory that Tolkien, when writing The Lord of the Rings, associated Europe with Middle-earth, Russia with Mordor, and America with distant Valinor. Orcs are not so bad, it's just that Tolkien's books don't talk about their ordinary life.

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Not sure what you mean. Just read what exactly @Prosac written to me all the time to all my comments in this topic, my comment is just final consequence. The presence of orcs in the context is just a coincidence.

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I see. Ok.

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all your comments sure mate, everyone can see you're making things up there, like usual, also your final consequence seems very smart, NOT, like i don't seem to care
talking about ignoring and then paying enogh attention to answer with spam each time

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all your comments sure mate, everyone can see you're making things up there, like usual, also your final consequence seems very smart, NOT, like i don't seem to care
talking about ignoring and then paying enogh attention to answer with spam each time

I'm sorry if i such hard offended you. Please stop answers via strange words on my every single comment.

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the only thing you offended me with, is your obvious lies, every single comment, bruh

Once I catch you in one lie, it makes me question everything you said.

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the only thing you offended me with, is your lies, every single comment, bruh
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Once I catch you in one lie, it makes me question everything you said.

So you're playing the role of a morality cop? I see.

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i know morality is a concept strange to you, as others already pointed out

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there is another theory, where Tolkien wanted to look Mordor as dumb as possible, so he puts Orcs there.

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there is another theory, where Tolkien wanted to look Mordor as dumb as possible, so he puts Orcs there.

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you're so predictable and stubborn, still trying to rush B?

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What do you mean condensed? There are two documents, and they literally the same as they are in Russian, just without the signatures.

I just got used to a document with signatures, so I didn't really take it into account, but yes, it's similar.
Просто привык к документу с подписями, вот и не очень учитывал, а так да, это подобный.

Well, I guess that what happens when you do one thing and say some other thing. Unfortunately, Russia did not call things as they were from the very beginning (starting with little green men), making it impossible for everyone to understand what is really happening and then how to negotiate.

It was not official, but the requirement was to enter officially, and many people thought that the Kremlin had power over the LDPR, it is not so, they are on their own. So they didn't really understand. If there is an official appeal, then it is officially either carried out or given an official response, which is exactly what happened. There were answers - "What do you want from us, we are not there." But just promises not backed up by paper in the Russian Federation have already ceased to believe. Too many Gentlemen have used the word before. It is necessary, then he gave the word, and if not, then he took the word.
Официально не было, но требование было войти официально, причём очень многие думали, что Кремль имеет власть над ЛДПР, это не так, они сами по себе. Вот и не очень понимали. Если идёт официальное обращение, то его официально или выполняют или дают официальный ответ, что как раз и было. Были ответы - "Что Вы от нас хотите, нас там нет". А вот как раз обещаниям не подкреплённым бумагой в Российской федерации уже перестали верить. Слишком много ранее Джентельмены пользовались словом. Надо, то слово дал, а не надо, то слово забрал.

I have been to Transcarpathia couple of times. People there have their reservations and opinions, but not to the degree of a separation. That could be possible only with Hungary's invasion just like Russia's one.

After the implementation of the Minsk agreements. Already when the LDPR have a special status. This does not mean that it will be so, but at the same time, if the LPR received a special status with its own authorities and language, and then the DPR also received the same thing. Why can't Hungarians or Poles want the same? They will have an example that turned out. Why not try to do the same.
После выполнения Минских соглашений. Уже когда ЛДНР обладают особым статусом. Это не значит, что так и будет, но в тот же момент, если ЛНР получила особый статус со своими властями и языком, а тут ещё и ДНР получила тоже самое. Почему не могут захотеть того же венгры или поляки. У них будет пример, который получился. Почему не попробовать сделать тоже самое.

Many things could have been avoided. Those were uncertain times with lots of stupid decisions, including those from the government, law enforcement agencies, and people themselves. It all have been an internal matter and should have stayed internal. Anyway, there was no need to dismember the country by force if Russia considered itself an ally to Ukraine and wanted Ukraine to stay neutral. That is obvious - help Ukraine and Ukraine will stay your friend. Neutral and grateful.

This was an internal matter, it was just that people did not talk to each other, but some began to demand from others what others did not really want, and some demanded due to the fact that it turned out to be held in other places. Next, wall to wall, and now everyone is sharpening their teeth on those who are going, and not those who are ready to talk, but those who are ready to wave their fists are going. It doesn't really come out with fists, so it's necessary to take something stronger and now the conflict is getting bigger and bigger. But those who are ready to extinguish it, those are not. No, part of the world had the idea that the Russian Federation would intervene, but it did not do so and the situation did not go as planned.
Это и было дело внутреннее, просто люди не стали говорить друг с другом, а начали одни требовать от других того, что другие не очень и хотели, причём одни требовали в связи с тем, что это получилось провести в других местах. Далее стенка на стенку и вот уже каждый точит зуб на тех, кто едет, а едут не те, кто готов говорить, а те, кто готов махать кулаками. Кулаками не очень выходит, значит надо, что посильнее взять и вот конфликт становится больше и больше. А вот тех, кто готов его гасить, то тех нет. Нет, у части мира была мысль, что Российская федерация вмешается, но она не стала этого делать и ситуация пошла не так, как планировали.

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It was not official, but the requirement was to enter officially, and many people thought that the Kremlin had power over the LDPR, it is not so, they are on their own. So they didn't really understand. If there is an official appeal, then it is officially either carried out or given an official response, which is exactly what happened. There were answers - "What do you want from us, we are not there." But just promises not backed up by paper in the Russian Federation have already ceased to believe. Too many Gentlemen have used the word before. It is necessary, then he gave the word, and if not, then he took the word.

Russia gravely violated every treaty it had with Ukraine. Russia didn't tell the truth about its involvement in Crimea, Donbas, and other parts of Ukraine. And Russia did have control over LDPR - not "official" but by proxy, which meant it could deflect any responsibility. And then again, Minsk agreements, despite everything, were respected by Ukraine in the same manner they were respected by LDPR.

Why can't Hungarians or Poles want the same? They will have an example that turned out. Why not try to do the same.

Hungarian minority comprises about 12% of Transnistria. The only way to separate it from Ukraine is by direct military invasion. As for Poland, they don't have military sentiments at all. Those are only horror stories. But you are right, if Russia's invasion turns out to be successful, it would mean every other hungry shark in the world can go on with similar barbaric invasions.

No, part of the world had the idea that the Russian Federation would intervene, but it did not do so and the situation did not go as planned.

Firstly, Russia did intervene - only not to help but dismember. Secondly, many of those clashes were organized by Russian money through pro-Russian proxies. Surkov leaks. Glazyev tapes. Do you even know about them?

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I have some questions about those polls. I'm not convinced that they prove that Ukraine would have remained neutral.

Well, basically Russia wanted to have their cake and eat it, too. They could have tried to steer Ukraine towards neutrality or the Russian sphere over time covertly but after they invaded and annexed the Crimea and instigated a separatist conflict in the Donbas it was out of the question. You can't keep good relations with a country you are slowly dismembering. That's the kind of trauma that takes decades to move on from.

But I think that recognizing and coming to terms with their situation is pivotal to finding a peaceful solution.

I don't see the way towards a peaceful solution currently. It seems the military conflict will have to play out first. Everyone who was pro-Ukraine there already left the region. I'm sure many of the pro-Russian folks did, too. It was just not a nice place to live not only because of the military conflict but because these separatist statelets are run like a maffia state. Organizing a fair referendum would be impossible. And even if it was possible violating sovereignity of states and redrawing borders like that is a big no-no in post WW2 Europe. Emboldening irredentist claims in Europe is like playing with fire.

Also the importance of the Donbas is in my opinion overstated. This war didn't break out because of the Donbas. It's about Russia viewing Ukraine as rightfully belonging to the Russian sphere of influence or outright as a part of a Greater Russia.

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@PaganFears
Also the importance of the Donbas is in my opinion overstated. This war didn't break out because of the Donbas. It's about Russia viewing Ukraine as rightfully belonging to the Russian sphere of influence or outright as a part of a Greater Russia.

You should read the history of Ukraine, Lugansk and Donetsk regions are two of the three major sources of Ukraine's natural resources.

Is there any interest in these regions of for both sides, of course - yes, because the design and developing of these regions were carried out jointly during the Soviet era, when we was unified country.

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That's a pretty silly reason. For one because the Warsaw Pact wasn't some alliance of volunteers but a result of occupation and suppression and secondly because it's history.
But if you insist on outdated setups determining today's politics, I'm pretty sure that we'll find many historic milestones you wouldn't favor either. Why not take one of those?

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Well. If you want to substitute "negotiate" for "surrender" and "WW3/nuclear war" for "Warsaw pact" this might start to make some sense.

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the solutions is pretty easy, Selenskyj should surrender and ukraine commit to neutrality. would save a lot lifes and help the world in a whole.

Wow. Such a diplomat! Why not surrender to terrorists? Murderers? Rapists? You are proposing such a wise solution only because you are in safety, or you are a pro-Kremlin apologist for some reason, or both. When some oppressor will knock on your door, you will sing different songs.

but sure, im the bad guy for letting a ukraine family live in my small apartment for free, and working daily to get their paperwork done, again for free.

Again, these logical manipulations. How I "love" them. Who said you are the bad guy, especially for letting a Ukrainian family to live in your apartment?

Thanks anyway. No one says you are the bad guy (that is ridiculous), but you clearly want something that is impossible in the current situation and blame everyone for it except those who are truly to blame. Also, if you do something, it is better to do it from the bottom of your heart (if you feel that is the right thing), or not do it at all. It is better that way from psychological perspective to everyone involved.

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I call BS on an Ukrainian family living for free in your apartment and you working for them.
Are your pants on fire?

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my gouverment asked for it and i agreed, to it. but as always. people on the internet know better

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I would pity the Ukrainians having to deal with you, listening all the time how their country should surrender to the Russians.
But luckily, its just a case of shameless chasing of internet points.

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"its just a case of shameless chasing of internet points"

just like everyone, in this forum.
what internet points do i even get? about 50 blacklists a day?
you guys are blinded, by your moral supremacy. not able to see the light in the darkness

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You hand them blacklists out yourself freely as well.
So.
Complaining about blacklists while handing them out yourself???
What a hypocritical victim game are you playing.
Stop being such a snowflake.

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you are the snowflake. as you get offended by the truth. all you can do is call names and be aggressive to sane people.

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There you go being a snowflake again.

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Excellent words. Your proposals?

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Russia since day one has been blaming everyone around. Evil nazis, evil EU, evil Nato, evil americans. How everyone is to blame expect them. At no point has Russia looked for a solution to this crises apart from offering ridiculous excuses and unacceptable peace offers.

Everyone is to blame according to Russia and they where pushed to invade. The twisting of truth is ridiculous

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for longer than im even alive, media and governments all over the world blame russia for just about everything going wrong in their countries.

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In cold war maybe yes.
If you are talking about countries Russia has invaded or partaken in wars, of course they will be blamed. Just like USA has been for shit they do.

I'd even argue that Germany, UK, USA, China has gotten bigger hate towards them for shit they have done then Russia has in general. How is anyone even surprised Russia is being blamed for invading a fucking country ?

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But...... they were forced to do it... by the means of getting ready to resist! :D

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Wait no, they didn't actually do anything at all.

All they did was start a special military operation to rid a country from Nazis. They came with food rations to free the poor oppressed people from Evil nazi regime ran by a Jew. Its the horrible Azov that has destroyed the cities and killed the people not Russian military. While at the same time protecting themselves from horrible Ukrainians who have managed to be working on nuclear and chemical weapons to attack Russia. And don't forget the pigeons who where trained to bring viruses to Russia.

I mean how can you even blame Russia here. So obviously they are the victim.

And how horrible of west to start proxy war against them. Well at least Biden can't go to Russia now. I think that will show us. I'm already shaken.

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Exactly! That's why we did what we didn't do just because they made us! But we still didn't! So they can't accuse us - no proof lol!

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All they did was start a special military operation to rid a country from Nazis. They came with food rations to free the poor oppressed people from Evil nazi regime ran by a Jew. Its the horrible Azov that has destroyed the cities and killed the people not Russian military. While at the same time protecting themselves from horrible Ukrainians who have managed to be working on nuclear and chemical weapons to attack Russia. And don't forget the pigeons who where trained to bring viruses to Russia.

Glad you started to see the point.

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I do sincerely hope this is your way of joking around instead of actually believing that.

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This time it's different, though. Everything is well-documented, transparent. russia has invaded Ukraine, forced about 6 millions of Ukrainians to flee the contry, and god knows how many to leave their homes and relocate inside the country. russia has caused utter destruction of Ukraine's cities, factories, roads, and cultural landmarks. There is nothing to even discusss here. russia's actions cannot ever be considered even "grey, neutral", not even talking about being "righteous".

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Putin's Russia is just an innocent victim of western governments, right?

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you might be a victim idiocy

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@suicidesurvivor -> a wise man , once said:„In times of crisis, intelligent people look for solutions, idiots look for someone to blame.“

An appropriate choice of citation for those who might feel attacked when you tell them they've done something wrong (like a war, for example).
If I follow your logic, then maybe with his final solution, Hitler was the smartest of the smart people. Hitler may have seen himself as a victim of "idiots" wanting to blame him.

@suicidesurvivor -> not many people here, look for solutions.

The withdrawal of the Russian army is a solution.

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Whew. Some heated debates today. I wonder why. Wish you all to be patient with each other. I am sorry if I am not. I will take a pause from the discussion.

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Don't let them bother you.
Have a vampire rabbit :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru__6sQ_bpE

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seems like it's monday and paid trolls are stressed from working the weekend
also this thread becomes more and more like Twitter

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Ukrainian refugees can exchange hryvnia for euros in Germany
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-23-22/h_217227d483ea55ce15aa07e28c087dd7
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"Refugees can exchange a total amount of up to 10,000 hryvnia into euros at participating German banks and savings banks,“ the German finance ministry said Monday in a press release.

"The exchange can also be made in several installments and is to be free of charge. Banknotes of 100, 200, 500 and 1,000 hryvnia of the currently valid banknote series of the National Bank of Ukraine will be accepted,“ the ministry said, adding that the agreement amounts to an exchange volume of initially 1.5 billion hryvnia. 

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https://www.bundesbank.de/
🏦₴ →€

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjevsnCRQ_A The Miners' song. 16 tons. The performance is very good, we enjoy it.

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Russian diplomat quits over war in Ukraine

A Russian diplomat has quit his job in protest at the "bloody, witless" war "unleashed by Putin against Ukraine".
Boris Bondarev, whose LinkedIn says he worked at the Russian mission to the UN in Geneva, told the BBC he knew his decision to speak out may mean the Kremlin now considers him a traitor.
But he stood by his statement which described the war as "a crime against the Ukrainian people" and "the people of Russia".
In the letter posted on social media and shared with fellow diplomats, Mr Bondarev explained he had chosen to end his 20-year career in the service because he could no "longer share in this bloody, witless and absolutely needless ignominy".
"Those who conceived of this war want only one thing - to stay in power forever," he wrote.
"To achieve that, they are willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes," he continued. "Thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already died just for this."
The letter does not hold back over his former employer either, accusing Russia's Foreign Ministry of being more interested in "lies and hatred" than diplomacy.
Mr Bondarev is under no illusions that Moscow will now see him as a traitor, but notes he hasn't "done anything illegal".

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You would see something in Russia if the common man/woman didn't have to fear of its own government.
Specially the younger generation,
We all know that the older generations are much more stubborn and hold on to the old ways.

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You would see something in Russia if the common man/woman didn't have to fear of its own government.

Nonsense, please stop misinformation.

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Here I agree with you :) When you are being pumped constantly with misinformation of how wonderful Russia and life in it is, there is no need to fear the ruling power. Just like dictator and his ruling political force in North Korea. No wonder you admire that psychotic killer who rules your country.

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Here I agree with you :) When you are being pumped constantly with misinformation of how wonderful Russia and life in it is, there is no need to fear the ruling power. Just like dictator and his ruling political force in North Korea. No wonder you admire that psychotic killer who rules your country.

Man, you live in Latvia. Only you here who are being pumped constantly with misinformation about Russia. I know because i live in Russia.

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I know because i live in Russia

So did I get it right? You are being told by Russian government how my government spreads misinformation about your government?
Bold way of saying "No u"

We actually have a lot of Russian government sympathizers. And a lot of people who live with rose colored glasses remembering Soviet Union as some kind of wonderful thing. So I'd say we are living blissfully unware of things that happen in Russia. But the wonderful thing of free media is that state can't hide from us of your governments crimes. Neither they can hide what US does on that matter (or our own govs crimes)

I mean Putin orchestrated the 1999 bombings that killed hundreds of Russian citizens as a false flag. Yet you still lick his balls and believe every word that comes out of his mouth. (and of course, murdering investigators really paints a good picture that Chechens where responsible for this.. sure.. You can just not answer as well, I already know all you have to say is that its all lies of west just like false flags and bombings in Ukraine now)....

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I see you know Bazilus well.
His counter argument is always ... lies.
Just wait for it.

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@codasim
I see you know Bazilus well.
His counter argument is always ... lies.
Just wait for it.

Sounds like you think that you know me well too. You wrong.

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@ChrisKutcher
Yet you still lick his balls and believe every word that comes out of his mouth.

You are written some nonsense. What a strange thoughts in your head about someone licks the other people, it's says about your not a very healthy mental condition.

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Its just a saying in English expressing over the line admiration to someone who treats you badly. Not really meant literally.

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@ChrisKutcher
Its just a saying in English expressing over the line admiration to someone who treats you badly. Not really meant literally.

You are definitely a fool.

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Why? Because I think Putin is a fucking cockroach? The fact that majority somehow gobbles down all the bullshit despite the horrible shit he and his political power has done, you still somehow stay knowingly arrogant to all of it and write it down to lies of west could not be named as anything else but ass / balls licking.

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Ну данному субъекту куда лучше видно, то как живут в Российской федерации, не живя в ней. С ним вообще смысла нет спорить. Ведь самые "независимые" СМИ всё подробно рассказывают, правда этих СМИ всё меньше и меньше, но зато остались самые "независимые".

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And what he will get is the promise of a good job with a good salary. But in reality, he will receive pennies (his 30 pieces of silver) and the requirement to constantly attend anti-Russian demonstrations. If he does not walk, then these 30 will not be. Moreover, everyone understands that this is a traitor, and if he betrayed once, he will betray him later. Returning to the Russian Federation is suicide. A person who cannot be hired. But there will still be such, in connection with the former chief Foreign Ministry "What do you want," who now lives in Miami.

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please be more specific and don't use everyone, when you really mean everyone in russia and i don't think even in russia not everyone thinks he is a traitor, so it's more all Kremlin-aligned people think he's a traitor

and why can't he return to russia, maybe because oppression is real there
he just said what he thinks, that's no problem in liberal democratic countries

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No, I'm talking about betrayal, not about the point of view. If you speak shockingly, then you are either pursuing your own goals or imposed goals. It's unrelated. But in this case, this is a betrayal of the country. Some of the cultural figures first left the country, but they said "rest" or "treatment", due to the fact that they planned to return, but now the journalists began to ask and the truth, the truth is not very publicized, was revealed, now most of the people will think whether it is worth going to a performance or a film with their participation, and whether the director is invited or not. And this is money, and there are no roles, then there is no money.

Why not, there are no restrictions. Only with him, none of those who are tied to the Kremlin will want to deal with him, he is "toxic", and these are only private companies not associated with the Kremlin. And if he made this speech, then they will be judged by it.

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There are so many ways to be a betrayer.
Being a betrayer also applies to anyone aware of spreading lies, helping sentence thousands of soldiers and civilians to death, and helping the real war criminals go free.

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I agree with you. American political commentator Tucker Carlson is still doing his job on Fox News despite hating Biden and being friendly with Putin's actions. It's freedom of opinion, something Russia lacks thanks to Putin's oppression.

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There is a problem. They took a media character, not from the administration. As soon as you compare the one from the Biden administration who is in favor of a Special operation and he will continue to work, then your statement will be true, as long as it does not make sense and weight. Artists in the Russian Federation calmly express their opinions and no one blocks them, people just stop going to them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qV5H6zsieM
Some Russian Officers rather shoot its own wounded soldiers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDTW-1_IOI
More of those fires that seem to be appearing in Russia for no apparent reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G6yWdOIVLU
Protesters,
Young men die for old men.
Good to see not everyone in Russia is brainless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G73U0Vu5B3s
Although lots of brainwashing is still continuing by weird host.
She makes the capital mistake that her fearless Putler has made, still believing that soo many people are on their side.
NUTS.

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"Никогда не было так стыдно за страну". Российский дипломат в ООН подал в отставку из-за войны с Украиной - BBC News Русская служба
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-61551266


Hillel Neuer on Twitter: "BREAKING: 🇷🇺 Russia’s Counsellor to the United Nations in Geneva has resigned. Boris Bondarev: “Never have I been so ashamed of my country.” UN Watch is now calling on all other Russian diplomats at the United Nations—and worldwide—to follow his moral example and resign. 🧵: " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1528668629482541057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


There also seems to be a reference to the "attempted" assassination of Vladimir Putin.
If you have been in constant contact with correct information at the UN, three months is probably the end of your patience.
The fact that this decision was made by a key official with far more knowledge of Russia's internal affairs suggests that the reality is much worse.🤔

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This infromation is already was some hours ago by @Glorow

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it's true... I should have posted it there.(´・Θ・`)Oh..

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It doesn't matter at all. 👍

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https://youtu.be/ZcKbUocasd4
It has been 3 months since the war.
I finally made the tractor mini-game into my game. It seems the lockdown in Shanghai really slowed me down.
It's also a part of the free demo version of the game. It shall be free for everyone so that all can have some fun in this dark time.

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Cool. Thanks!

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