Hey

So as everyone knows today were given alot of free "Really Big Sky" keys, so since I wasn't interesed in playing it, I did a Giveaway, but before that i read all the rules just to be sure i wasn't doing anything againts them, and actually i did not find any rule who states you can't GA games you won for free, so i did it and some people told me im reported bla bla so i didn't took it seriously, but one of them linked me this: http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/2HThh/really-big-sky

so how is the thing, is the mod wrong deleting that GA or the rules ?

http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/91wob/faqrules-and-guidelines

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"and just to be clear I AGREE GIVEAWAYS OF FREE GAMES SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED!! but god just write it in the rules." this is to avoid "intengillent" people sayign random things.

10 years ago*

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No one needs your generously given free games, thanks (like Pid, Spacechem, Enclave...)

10 years ago
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mmh did i say the oposite ? I din't wanted the game and it increases my "value", its wrong ? maybe, but not againts the rules.
and btw the guy who won looked pretty happy, actually he was playing it like 30min after giving him the key ;)

10 years ago
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You can easily drop it on the forums and "guy will be happy" too

10 years ago
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No, no, that would make too much sense.

Better yet, they could have just not taken a key at all if they didn't want to play the game.

10 years ago
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Say NO to a free key?

Teach me this skill.

10 years ago
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Might be considered "exploited CD-key without proof of purchase" since you did get it for free and have no proof of purchase.

10 years ago
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"These are listed below."

10 years ago
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So 'buy' tons of free copies and profit. You want this ? How old are you ? 10 ?
I still dont know why mods wont place info on the make ga page that you cant give free game and info about cv. It wouyld be so much easier for them.

And bare in mind that sometimes we need to wait a while so the list of games for ga will be updated. Its not like mods have earlier info about promos and magicly in the very same moment update list. Maybe they needd to hire few more ppl with clerance to only update that list. idk

10 years ago
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what are you talking about ? the only thing i want is rules to be clear, thats all, i don't care about the game at all, but it fkign pisses me off when someone tells me that i am doing somethign wrong when i know im not.

10 years ago
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Learn self-control then. It's a valuable trait. Saves you from embarrassment.

10 years ago
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"learn self-control then" ?? what haves to do the fact of rules to be clear with self controlling ?? and also what makes you think i do care about your opinion so much to be embarrased ? too much ego i guess ?

10 years ago
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This would be a prime time to start learning.

10 years ago
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You can't let yourself be held back by common sense in Gen..... in SteamGift,right!?

10 years ago
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^This.

Any game that can currently be acquired for free by anyone outside of SG is not eligible for giveaways. Why should a user get CV when everyone who entered can go get the free key themselves once they're informed of such?

10 years ago
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But most users won't get CV since it's usually treated as a bundle game.

10 years ago
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He joined one week ago and has only given away one $15 bundle game, so he would have received "full credit" for this game. Also, anyone who gives more than just bundle games still gets a percentage (albeit a small one) for every bundle game they give.

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As far as I know, while generally considered like exploitation and frowned upon, giving away a single copy wouldn't lead to your giveaway's deletion. Giving away multiple copies, however, is blatant abuse of the free promotion they were obtained from and leads to both their deletion and a suspension. The deleted giveaway you were linked to is likely a case of the latter.

It would have been at least nice of you to mention the free promotion in your giveaway's description so that more people could see it, instead of insulting the person who did in the comments.

10 years ago
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thats rigth i shouldn't "insult"(if that can be considered an insult) but to be clear i "insulted" him after he said the GA is reported, not when he posted the link.

10 years ago
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Well you were really rude already after i said that the game is available for free but that doesnt matter now ^^ anyways if you feel mad or anything else towards me just because i was stating out i reported that GA, after you were really rude to me, if it makes you feel better i reported all other giveaways of that game aswell so it wasnt just something to make you mad/pissing you off which i have no reason for.
And btw i agree with you about the rules thingy i remember when i was new here and wanted to make a GA of a free game aswell i only found out that its not allowed by reading throu the forum ^^

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I think you can take the fact that games that can gotten for free are removed from the giveaway list as soon as possible as a statement as to how allowed they are to be given away.

10 years ago
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I agree with you it's not clear, but USUALLY, with these free games, you're allowed to create one giveaway, not a bunch of them. So, you're fine, I guess?

I even think the list of exploited games is not up to date.

They could add a line like this to the rules:

Do not submit more than one key for a game being given away for free while the promotion lasts

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Games with such a multitude of free keys available to anyone are removed from the list entirely. Spacechem, Dino D-Day, and now Really Big Sky are no longer in the list of games eligible for giveaways. Nobody should get CV for a game anyone can get for free. This isn't an instance of just 1000 keys available, this is an instance of ONE MILLION KEYS.

10 years ago
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Either way, whatever they choose to do regarding the rules, it should be stated more clearly. bobofatt has already said down there that it'll be better in SGv2, so that's good. :)

10 years ago
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I think it used to be like that (1 key is fine) but since some time ago, the mods seem to be have changed their minds.

10 years ago
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Your giveaway should have been deleted, but obviously a moderator wasn't online at the time. Hopefully they remove it so you don't get your free CV.

Welcome to the site.

10 years ago
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I would agree insofar as the rules need to be updated. But that's something (among other things) that seem to get overlooked here.

10 years ago
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Do you ever make comments in which you don't actively criticize the site or the moderation team? It's getting old.

10 years ago
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LOL.

10 years ago
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10 years ago
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It does when the FAQ is a thread made by none of the current staff and has to be edited, the permissions for doing so being restricted to maybe one or two people whose efforts have to be used for more pressing issues than trying to 'idiot-proof' the rules for people who mostly won't even bother reading them in the first place.

10 years ago
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so ok you can't edit the FAQ, thats comprensible, but belive it or not there is ALOT of people who read the rules.

10 years ago
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Yeah, I know there are. I was just saying that a lot of people who would need clarifications don't bother reading them in the first place. I know that's not always the case. The way things are, though, hardly anyone can make changes and those people have a lot more important things that need to be done, unfortunately, and it's just frustrating. I wish we could do more about it, but I'm afraid we can't right now.

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When massive free key giveaways start, the administrator removes them from the list of games that can be given away and deletes all giveaways for them retroactively. Yours was one of about a half-dozen that went up before the cutoff he selected, apparently. I got them now. Thanks.

10 years ago
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no comments, instead of just add a line to the rules so everyone can be informed before creating the GA yeah is way better making people waste time and then delete the GA, yep.

10 years ago
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This will be better in the next version of the site, in which we will be able to more actively update the Rules/FAQ and control the giveaway list.

10 years ago
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10 years ago
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yay!

10 years ago
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Just to go against the grain, I was actually thankful for the Really Big Sky giveaways since I do not want to open a Twitter account (not even a fake one, call me crazy) to get the game. So, OP and others, thanks for trying to give it away, we appreciate it anyway.

That said, I totally understand why the moderators are doing this -- the site would be FLOODED with this game GAs otherwise (as it has happened before, unhappily).

10 years ago
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This happened last summer. I lol'd at the time. It was like .19 on Steam or something absurd like that.

10 years ago
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That's some addon or smth?

10 years ago
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Its Just Cause 1. It was a price glitch last Summer Sale. If you mean the layout, yea its Steamgifts+ or something like that.

10 years ago
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The other reason is that people still get CV for stuff they got for free, hence inspiring massive exploiting of the system.

10 years ago
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Maybe there should be an option "Don't give me cv", as I for one couldn't care less about cv.

10 years ago
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Fair enough, though that'd fix nothing concerning people knowingly and willingly exploiting the system.

10 years ago
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Indeed, it doesn't :(

10 years ago
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For most users, they shouldn't get CV if they reached the bundle limit.

10 years ago
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Do you really expect CG or some other mods to camp here 24/7 and watch out for free games exploitation and delete it from the GA list immediately? Of course this takes time.

Come on, people have lives to live you know?

The revolting thing is you knowingly exploited something and didn't just feigned ignorance but you passed the buck and insisted like it's your damn right to exploit the CV system.

10 years ago
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did you even read my post ?!!

  • NO ONE said mods should camp here!!, actually im suggesting THE OPOSSITE, write a single rule so no one has to waste time.
  • I NEVER FEINGED IGNORANCE, how can be feing read all the damn rules and be 100% sure that im doing the right thing according to the rules, how can be that ignorance, im totally rigth and the GA shouldn't be removed, but yeah the only true thing is this is a private website and the mods/admins can do whatever they want to, but that doens't make them be right.

and just to be clear I AGREE GIVEAWAYS OF FREE GAMES SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED!! but god just write it in the rules.

10 years ago
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Damn, dat rules. So out of the box.

10 years ago
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I always upvote more red tape! We also should ban letter "Q" while we're at it.

10 years ago
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I think there is a rule that you are not allowed to give away won games. And actually (though there was a million copies of really big sky) you have won it.

10 years ago
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you talking about this "Don't trade, sell, resubmit, or give away games you win." ? this is for GAs you won in this website.

10 years ago
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Nope, it is in general as far as I know.

10 years ago
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Rules - not clear enough. My pingas is now stuck in a blender.

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