I am a diabetic type 2 for about 13 years, i take 2 pills per day, and my levels are around 8 on average where 6-7 is normal, so i call it mildly.
I googled (which you should never do with such things) but a few months ago i read that apparently people with type 2 live 10 years shorter, and type 1, 20 years.
Although some could actually live longer because they would change their eating habits and exercise habits while otherwise they wouldn't.

I been off and on trying to quit alcohol, months off and then on again, longest run is 1 year off, but the corona thing just doesn't make it easy, but it's not just about the alcohol/relaxation i do enjoy the taste of certain drinks too.
I never got hypo's, hypers or whatever, only a hangover at worst, but i dunno if i should drink in moderation still (also because i don't consider my levels high, maybe atleast till corona is gone and my life picked up again).

Anyway, if you got diabetes do you watch everything you eat/drink, or do you drink alcohol (in moderation? Love to hear experiences.

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Type 2 diabetes may be completely treated. Simply you need to change your lifestyle.
Search Dr. Berg in youtube for beginning.

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But it doesn't go for all people but only for certain groups how their lifestyle is etc, isn't it?

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37 yo, 1st type for 3 years. Beer - shit)

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Do you drink other things, and how much?

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I prefer vodka, rarely. Didn't notice the effect to glycemia.

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Type 1 here for over 18 years, (i neveer remember if i got diagnosed when i was 6 or 8). I'm just doing perfectly fine, some highs over the week and some lows. It's hard to keeps the levels inside the normal range, not because what i eat, but more because from last year my work shedule and stress is making my body a mess.

About alchool... As far as i know, if it's just alcohol (vodka, gin, etc...) it can even lower your blood sugar, but alcohol like beer due to the high carbs will make the blood sugar go up.

On weekends when i stay at home i can have all day between 130-80, but when midweek comes and mostly afternoon i go unexpectedly 180 or higher, i ate like 4 hours ago and then the blood sugar goes up really late, onyl happens when i'm at work, doesn't really make sense.

About your comment of people with Type 1 live 20 yeas less and Type 2 10 years... My grandma is type 1 and she is 95 years old, and my other grandma sister is 93 and also type 1 (this one had corona virus and didn't have any kind of complications). They both see perfectly and are able to walk, so if you take care of yourself there won't be any difference between a diabetic and non diabetic person lifespan... Of course you will have more chances of complications, but you can keep it up as much as you want!

Of course you have to watch what you eat, maily don't eat carbs between hours and don't eat sweets. I don't weight everything i eat, and if i go a weekend and eat at McDonald/BurgerKing burger or pizza (and that kind of stuff) i just inyect more insulin. There is apoint that just by looking what youre going to eat you regulate the dose itself, don't need a weight on your side at all times.

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That's very good to hear about your grandmother and the sister, but when were they diagnosed? It might matter just 10 years ago or 60 f.e, if it's been awhile ago then it definitely proves there is little difference and certainly good news.

Yeah had a colleague that has type 1, and odd how with type 2 you supposedly should cut down on anything with sugar, etc etc and when he goes too low he actually has to eat a snickers (or atleast he did). He had a patch on his arm, and he could just hold his mobile over it and he could just read any measurements and info from it, sure beats the having to prick your finger and test it that way constantly, seems awful to have it constantly monitored but guess you learn to live with it?

Well about complications i got cardiomyopathy (i saw tv shows/soap and they treated it like a death sentence) my dad has to take a whole bag of medicine, they can't say how it will progress for me but the cardiologist said i had the heart of a young girl (it was fine) so yeah diabetes it's bad in that i shouldn't get complications in that area.

Type 1 or 2 i think many will always have some spikes, hope the stress gets less, soon for you.

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I'm a Type I "Brittle" Diabetic, and was diagnosed when I was 13 years old—if you multiply that by a factor of three, the result would almost equal my current age, lol. I watch my overall calorie-intake more than the specific foods. Drinking alcohol isn't too problematic assuming one isn't an alcoholic or close to it. Typically, alcoholics end up "bottoming out" more regardless of the alcohol's calories/carbs simply because they drink more than they eat.

In all honesty, you're lucky to have Type II rather than Type I. Additionally, the number one cause of death for diabetics are staph infections due to slow healing, being in the hospital for any reason, bed sores (if, for some reason, you don't or can't get around/out of bed and the like).

Additionally, if your A1C is sitting around an eight then you are actually having high blood sugars, even if they're "low highs." My A1C fluctuates (due to the "brittle" part of mine); I've had my A1C be as high as 9.X and as low as 7.2. I can (and do for the most part) eat the same things at the same time, day-in and day-out. I normally do the same amount of exercise/physical exertion, too. That said, the "brittle" aspect of my diabetes still causes my blood sugars to bounce around. Sometimes they may be consistent for up to a week and then suddenly swing way up or way down. I've had countless glucose readings above 600 and ones below 40—I've actually had my glucose levels be as low as 12 a number of times over the decades. The last time I had to go in to the hospital over it, my blood sugar got so low that I passed out and they couldn't actually get a reading on me (it would just throw up an error code).

I drink some, but not routinely. Every two to four months I may drink a tall beer; once every year or two I'll get a big bottle of vodka. I don't really like the taste of most alcohol and just use it on occasion to remain calm when all else fails. (I was also diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome [autism] about five years ago or so.) Shrugs Life. What a trip (typically not in a good way, though), lol.

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Some studies advice you can have 1-2 drinks a day, some say none, and if i drink it would be a bit more (not ever so much i'd get drunk though) i just overal drink much, even tea or water.

I think i am lucky that my averages are slightly above what it should be, and that i am skinny, and not overweight in which what you say those problems usually arise with such people. For some type 2 can also be bad i guess as in noone really is lucky i think with diabetes, but yeah type 1 has more issues, also the constant monitoring.
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It's an 8mmol average called like that, the same as you would prick your finger with a measuring device when it should be around 5-7.
I believe americans (which i guessed you were without even looking) have a different measuring standard, same as you use miles and we do kilometers, i don't know if it's the same as A1C as that talks about percentages, it's awfully confusing all those terms, i think its something different.
But you don't have doctors check you out fully, why it fluctuates so much? Or it can just happen like that?

I totally can understand your need for seeking that occasion to remain calm, what i am looking at too now, it's a bit perculiar that you don't seem to need it that often though, when 1 bottle of vodka would be enough in 2 years, anyway you can always throw in orange juice with the vodka. ;)
But yeah life, one moment you got nothing and the next you get all sorts of things, i really hope the best for you.

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Oh, I need to find a way to be "calm" numerous times a day, I just have other ways I prefer to pursue it. That said, sometimes those avenues simply aren't available. Most of the time I simply do my best to avoid others as much as possible, as they are typically the factor that "breaks me" out of whatever calm I may have attained.

I could've gone on for pages, but, honestly, no one wants to read that mess. As far as my wide-ranging glucose readings, I don't think the doctors care any longer in the States. Without going into too much detail (and considering my knowledge is secondhand since I'm not in the medical profession), doctors, nurses, and what-have-you are constantly being sued (sometimes rightly, other times not), their insurance rates continue to go up to cover "projected legal issues," in addition to the vast majority of people (including those throughout the medical profession) simply not caring about others, whether it's their job or not. Considering as many factors as possible, it's somewhat understandable. My opinion for those in the medical field, though, is that if you don't or can't care, then it isn't a field you should be in. I had a doctor a few years ago actually question whether or not I was actually diabetic. I'd like to say I was "dumbstruck" by the question (the doctor was about my age, plus or minus a few years), but I would be lying to you if I told you that I was "totally surprised" by the guy's question. Generally, I prefer dealing with Nurse Practitioners (those licensed to write many kinds of prescriptions—assuming where they are employed will allow them to), as they typically still care about patients.

"Lucky" in this sense is really a matter of perspective. Someone with AIDS/HIV in the 1980s would've been extremely "unlucky." With the current crop of meds for that disease, though, they may be considered some of the "more lucky" people in comparison to other ailments.

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My dad has diabetes but luckily he doesn't drink, food on the other side is another story, he was overweight for a good chunk of his life. He's 71 now and has heart problems so I doubt that diabetes is going to be the one to cause his death.

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It can be a bad combo though (that's always what i was told ), probably because diabetes could just damage any part in your body so maybe the heart area too.
But my dad is also overweight, got diabetes and heart problems, and above 70 so i feel you.
Actually maybe cancer too, we are waiting 6 weeks now before he can get his operation.

Best of luck to your dad.

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Thanks, same for you, hope your dad's operations goes well.

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Thank you.

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my wife went keto and sugar free and is now technically not diabetic

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I thought that would be another diet where you can basically eat little to nothing, but looking at it that might not be so.
Cheese, meat. I love to eat more nuts, but most are unfortunately so expensive.

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Alcohol breakdown by your liver results in a temporary abundance of ketones, particularly after binging or long periods of sustained drinking. Combined with diabetes, especially uncontrolled diabetes, you have a much greater risk of developing diabetic ketoacidosis, which can be easily fatal - my sister-in-law almost succumbed to this combo shortly after her and my brother's wedding day. That said, I can't recommend drinking, but if you do just keep it in moderation and keep the sugars in check and you'll likely be just fine (just maybe slightly worse off than not drinking at all).

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I guess you could call what i drank in a weekend (70cl of mixed drink and 6 beers each day), binge drinking, but what is uncontrolled, not taking meds? And i assume for a long period of time?

This kinda stuff actually makes me afraid again to drink anything. :p

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Not taking meds, not watching sugar intake or monitoring your a1c, basically just acting as if there's not an underlying issue when one exists. As I understand it, a weekend isn't likely to be catastrophic, but even one weekend completely off the rails can be. Because it's the only example I have, I will refer again to my sister-in-law's wedding - she generally follows the guidelines very closely, then for one week ate pretty much nothing but sweets and baked goods and drank beer and liquors, before landing in the hospital unable to breathe with a very low blood pH. Just something to consider. Sustained periods of non-adherence to guidelines bear other, less acute risks such as gangrene that was mentioned in a previous post. I will use my mother as a positive example of diabetes also - she follows all of the guidelines and exercises, and is in terrific shape and doesn't even so much as think about her type 2 anymore! Whichever way you go, I wish you all the best :)

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I also did some more reading actually after your post, and maybe i dodged a bomb and maybe i didn't (i got physical issues but doubt if that's all diabetes related), but i been drinking ("good" not what i call heavily but more then moderation in the weekends) for atleast 10 years with the diabetes, never experienced the lows or highs you can get with it's symptoms (maybe a high as in i did pass out a couple of times but that could just have been fatigue, but never a low). Plus that your medicine might not even work.

And not once a doctor or diabetes nurse that will tell you well if you are going to drink you will have risk on this and that, we all know drinking is bad, but don't think many people with diabetes realize what for bad combination it can actually be, especially if you are not told.
I think it might be better to stay off the booze. (though i might feel different again in a few weeks :p but i just have to imprint this in my brain).

Thank you.

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On top of all its other downsides, notably the cancer increase, it's probably the best to avoid. It is good to know all of the biochemical catastrophes laying in wait if certain medical advices go ignored.. Though I'd be lying if I said I hadn't indulged during the lockdown myself! :') Moderation, as with most anything, is key!

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Type 2 here, im taking a pill twice a day and eating less fats and calories.
Not that bad, i enjoy a beer from time to time, will check my status in a few months, i expect not to become type 1, fingers crossed.

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Good luck.

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Type 1 is an autoimmune disease you are most often born with, very unlikely you would just develop Type 1 (though not impossible). Now, if you had a parent with Type 1, you may have a higher risk.

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type 2 drink like once a year but when i do drink that 1 time i usually drink a lot if its a party or special occasion i used to exercise a lot more before corona but usually i am just too tired from work now but being on discord with friends sometimes they do have like a drinking evening playing partygames as jackbox with the cam on and althoug temtping i try not to drink as i dont feel the need for it myself

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It's always very tempting when others around you still drink, best of luck staying as much sober as you can.

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stay strong man, one of my family have it, but he never consume any pills, he just never eat or drink anything sweet, instead, he drink herbal everyday

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Thank you, what does he eat?

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no idea XD, sorry

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Does he goes to hospital to check his blood and urines regularly?

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never go to the hospital and never check urines, but he check his blood 2 times in a week using a small checker stuff at home, not sure what does it is called, but i think its pretty cheap stuff

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My father and his brothers sisters are all DM. They had to change their eating habits and they're pretty good at it for now. Here in Turkey dinners and desserts are pretty heavy for DM patients but they could drop pretty much things. Just don't lose yourself and do exercise, you will live your life pretty good. Med student here

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Type 1 here, be very careful when drinking.

Lots of various alcoholic drinks will jack your sugar up, they don't print carbohydrate or sugar content on the bottles, and of course, inebriation affects your mentation to the point of where you may forget to take insulin, or may undercorrect, or overcorrect. Inebriation may also mask hypoglycemia symptoms, make you fall asleep while hypo, and becoming very nauseous and vomiting may make it incredibly hard to raise your sugar.

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Yeah i learned that a bit reading here, it's so easy to lose control when you drink, and then to say oh i can have another one. I don't know why people (or maybe it's just here) don't get better informed on the combination of alcohol and diabetes.
I had a set back this weekend, just too much on the mind, and i know someone else with a lot of issues too, when it's making the choice of some rest in your head vs rest in the rest of your body, sometimes you still wanna choose your mind.
And will definitely quit again, i did have plenty of episodes i fell asleep with drinking in those years, but that was the only thing, and even have/had that without drinking so hard to tell if it's always been a hypo.

Nauseous (let alone vomiting) hardly ever happened dunno if that also has to accompany it, except for today when i was calling if i could rather not wait with all the corona stuff to get a blood test again, they wanted me to do one anyway, there came the nausea.
But i am weird like that, even with a result of a heart mri were it was proven totally fine i almost passed out with a doctor in the house and not knew what to do..

Take care.

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