the moment i told my friend i got it he just started to ramble about it :P
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while im normally a ranged weapons guy i found the two most fun and interesting classes to be the two melee, berserker and engineer, both feel very visceral. embermage is impressive but mostly boils down to spamming prismatic bolt, and outlanders traps and buffs just never felt all that good to me, which turns him into a glaive spammer or primary/modified primary attack class... repetitive.
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its amazing especially for the price
the story is pretty much absent but the gameplay makes up for it in spades
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I bump this because I have question. Right next to me there is a hard copy of TorchlightII. Don't want to add it to steam but keep it the way it is. But before I install it I have to know if the CD is necessary to play it. I don't want to allways switch the CD.
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Not sure about II, but the disk copy of Torchlight I didn't need the disk after install. So it's fairly likely you won't need it to play.
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Would someone who found TL rather dull enjoy the sequel? People have said the game is more enjoyable to play.
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It's an improvement for sure, from there to enjoying it though I don't know. I found the first one boring as hell after a while, and the same thing happened with the second one. Skills are boring and you get rewarded by focusing on a few skills rather than for trying to diversify. I completed the game as mage using 4 skills at most. As for the story, I have no idea if there's one. I've invested 26 hours into the game and I honestly don't know what's the story behind it.
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I bought it for half-price a day or so ago myself! It's enjoyable to play so far - and plays beautifully and flawlessly on my Toshiba laptop without any crashes or serious game-breaking bugs - but it's not without a couple faults: one being that most monsters don't automatically respawn in your game the way they would in similar games such as Dungeon Siege II and the Diablo & FATE sagas (unless you do some trick I'd read about making your own temporary multiplayer LAN server that can reset the world), so you can't really grind very much; and the mod editor being delayed (they say it should come out eventually)...
Nonetheless, it does seem like a pretty cool game to me so far.
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I enjoyed it for a bit if you're into these games i suggest it.
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Opinions, opinions. I didn't even like Diablo 3 that much and I would still never say that Torchlight 2 is better. The only thing I can see being better is the price.
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Nope Torchlight 2 is so much better. It actually has both Lan and a Single Player that you don't have to be signed an account to play also its more like Diablo 2 where Diablo 3 is very stripped down.
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Opinions, opinions. Played over 50 hours of Diablo 3, never had one issue with always online other than day 1 which was chaos. It's 2013, you are always online either way, and if you are not, do something else. Always online also makes cheating very hard. Torchlight 2 has less classes, boring skills that you can't respec unless you use mods, pointlessly large maps, poorly balanced classes like the outlander which is supposed to be a gunner, yet does no damage with guns, or the embermage which rapes everything with just investing points in 3 skills. Bosses are not challenging at all, gear progression is meh, you can use level 30 gear in a level 60 character and you'll barely notice a difference, which makes you wonder what's the point of a loot fest game when it makes almost no difference.
Also there is no difficulty progression. If you started your game in normal difficulty, your character is forever stuck to normal. New game+ only scales monsters to your level, but remains in the difficulty you chose first, which means it's the same as your first playthrough except that you now have a ton of skills to make it easier. Want a new difficulty? Start all over again from scratch.
Story is nonexistent. I've completed the game once and I still have no idea what the story behind it was, hell I don't even remember the name of any of the bosses or NPCs, there's nothing memorable about the game.
It's an overrated game, just like the first one. Maybe it gets better if you play mutliplayer, but I won't find out because it's not a game I'd recommend to my friends.
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Onions, Onions. No in 2013 not everybody is always online. He was talking about LAN where the internet usually isn't good enough for many people to play online. Also always online doesn't make "cheating" very hard when i think about all the farmbots. You argue about the skills, ironically in D3 you can't even choose what you want to skill while there are like 30 unique spells for each class in TL2. If you do no damage with guns as a outlander you clearly skilled wrong and you missed a "innovation". You can pick every weapon with every class which gives more freedom to the player. "Bosses are not challenging at all" - i guess you haven't played the game on the hardest difficulty. Also where are the challenging bosses in D3 if it is possible to do all bosses on inferno without equip. This shows that there is no real difference between the items in D3 at all.
At last, TL2 is 15€ regular, you get it for 10€. D3 is still at 45€ (germany).
Everybody can decide if it is overrated, but i am part of a small forum full of people who played and love D2 and bought D3 on the first day. After a few weeks there where a poll how many people that bought D3 are still playing. It was like 100 aren't playing anymore and 10 are still playing. Most of them bought TL2 and would recommend TL2 over D3 even if TL2 would be a full price title.
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yes there is no real story. can't say anything against that. to chose another difficulty is somehow retarded, the only way i know is to host a lan or online game and set the server difficulty.
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One thing is botting, one thing is being able to edit your character's level, stats and gold. As for skills, you have 3/4 skills with 5 runes each for every slot and you have 6 slots, plus 12-15 passives from which you can choose 3. In TL2 you have 10 per tree, which adds up to 30, with many being the same (hailstorm and firestorm for example) and many being useless and unnecessary.
Outlanders needed dex, but ranged damage didn't scale with dex, resulting in doing a lot of crits for barely any damage.
As for bosses, I doubt that it is possible to kill them all on inferno without gear, but I'd love to see it. In TL2 I can use frost phase alone and kill every boss. As for gear, one of the biggest complaints about D3 was that you needed gear to progress through it. I can't count how many people I've seen call it "p2w". As I said before in TL2 I'm wearing level 30 gear with a level 60 embermage and I oculdn't care less. Everything dies with one blazing pillar. Played elite and it was the same thing. You can beat everything by just using frost phase.
There is also no incentive to replay the game. By the time I was finished with D3's first difficulty I had still at least 15 levels to max, which meant skills and runes to unlock, which was something I wanted to do. I finished TL2 and I tried to start again in a harder difficulty and see if it was more challenging, but I found out that I was stuck to the same difficulty as before and skills were already all unlocked.
Finally, price...I don't care about price. I got well over 50 hours in D3 out of which I enjoyed most, and I'm happy with my purchase, whereas I'd get a refund for TL2 if I could, since the most part of the 25 hours I put into it were not enjoyable.
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LOL. You are saying just because they have an achievement for killing the bosses on Inferno without equipment makes it sound easy. Please let me know when you have even beaten them WITH equipment, bc im sure you have not. In essence, these games are the same, but D3 is much better bc it actually has a very good story, and the classes/abilities/customization is much better than Torchlight.
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What do you think about it?
Just activated it myself :P
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