Is Greenlight evil?

The fee is absolutely necessary.

Hasn't Valve already said that Greenlight isn't working as they hoped it would and they're planning on doing something else when they think it up?

And a side note, not only is the fee absolutely necessary, but if you as a dev can't pony up 100 bucks to try and get your game on Steam, there's something wrong somewhere.

There wasn't any fee before. But what happened? People were uploading fake entries like Minecraft and others... The fee is absolutely necessary...

I don't know too much about the system, but I feel like the fee is absolutely necessary

Because Indie games aren't that good anymore.After the big success of SMB, everyone started making Indie games and most of them suck.If someone makes an original project I'd vote and buy it.But most of them just make a common platformer, advertise it everywhere and make people vote positive.Then it won't sell and developers start to cry.

I'm not saying all of them are same, but you know most them are like this.

Does anyone else remember the spam? Thats why there is a fee, to many "Feed Gabe Newell: HL3 Edition" games.

Everything that involves voting is a popularity contest.

The 100$ thing is a one time thing, goes to charity and it is necessary because people started uploading tons of fake games.

I doesn't afraid of anything.

Evil? Not sure.
Not working as intended? Indeed.

First of all the 100$ "entry" fee is too low. Right now 99%(or more) of the games on Greenlight are crappy 2D platformers nobody cares about or is interested in playing. The purpose of Greenlight was, ofcourse, to build a bridge between gamers and developers and help determine which (kind of) games should be sold on Steam and which should not. Instead of promoting quality and wanted games (and software), it promotes everyone who has 100$ to upload their shitty game to it and hope for the best.

I have yet to see a single game on Greenlight that I would actually want to play and pay for.

The fee is good, it's not high nor is it too low. If you are a bedroom programmer you can't really afford much more than that.

My personal opinion on why Greenlight doesn't work as expected is, that people still submit a lot of garbage.
All the crappy mobile ports and flash games simply don't belong on Steam and i can't be bothered anymore going on GL and browsing thru tons of bullshit to find one gem and vote it up.

I accidentally 64mb my hard drive when reading this

I don't think you quite understand what the term "evil" implies.

they don't think it be like it is, but it do

Valve is trying, that is all that matters. If you're really serious about having an indie game, you will just make whatever resources you have available work. Honestly, I think they should go ahead and bump the fee to something like $500, maybe higher. It shows you have confidence in your game and it isn't just a piece of shit. Besides, kickstarter is a thing and people can decide if they want to help greenlight your game on top of it.

1. Steam has standards, by other platforms you mean what, Desura? They accept every Indie game because that their game store purpose.
2. You must be new here. When Greenlight first launched, it was completely free out of charge, but then people began spamming the site with fake games, viruses, Half Life 3 clones... you name it. So Valve had no choice but to force a fee, which is by the way donated to charity.
3. If the Indie team can't advertise their game, how do you expect them to sell it? The world is cruel and evil, not Steam. Nobody said making a game is easy. Steam has standards, don't expect them sign a contract with every random indie game that pops up when nobody will even look at this.

Your argument is fucked up, that's what it is.

P.S. also your Grammar is fucked up. You're suppose to ask "Is Greenlight evil?". You can't use both "do" and "is" in that way in a question.

Indies must pay $100 for GREENlanternLIGHT + more money for promoting their game, and people in this thread still want to raise the price?
I know raising the price will cut out those shitty games everyone saw there ("Hey look, I made my very first shitty game on RPG Maker 2003, I'll pay $100 I took from my mom's purse and my game will be on Staem someday!¡!1!!one!!") but keep in mind all devs have costs besides the Greenylight fee.

By the way I think I did read somewhere an interview with God Newell himseld who said Grumplight was turned worse than expected, so I guess they will make something about it.

Frankly the 100$ element is irrelevant in the big picture. The voting system is the weakest point IMO, since, likefew all similar systems, most votes come from either friendship or interest, not from genuine interest or expectation of quality. On the other hand, we don't know how much the votes weigh in the approval process. For sure, a game like Cognition shouldn't have to go through the Greenlight process.

I didn't read your post due to title of the post being nonsense. Write in something resembling English if you want people to pay attention. Many probably skipped this post entirely because of that, but I thought I'd let you know why we're skipping. The title tells me that the rest of your post probably also doesn't mean anything.

"second you must make big advertise of your game to ensure Steam of future customers, and this have to make an unknown small indie dev."

Don't forget the fact that the advertisement is for the sale of YOUR game. It's to ensure the purchases of YOUR game so that YOU get paid. The fact that Steam gets a cut is an obvious thing and it's not evil at all. You're trying to get in on a distribution platform that is the favourite of many gamers which will expose your game to more publicity and sales. Greenlight is an indie gamer's sales pitch to Steam basically. They have to prove that enough people want to actually purchase their game before Steam will make an "investment". What's so evil about that? Is it flawed? Of course. Don't even ask how to fix because I wouldn't know. But claiming it's "evil" is just absurd.