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Somehow expect that there will be again more games with wrong platform or info made giveaways out, like there was previously at the times of no freebie giibies. Would say no due that.
The wrong platform g/a's. Can't argue with that. It would definitely happen I'm sure.
it's called SteamGifts for a reason.
Because there were no other truly viable game clients when SG started I'm guessing, eh?
beside what OP said - SG also allowed non-SG games in the past on rare ocassions ;p Like Minecraft Beta invites, Diablo 3, Oniken mass GA was for game on devs own website etc ;p
Maybe, but what to do with the name then? :D "STEAMgifts"
Ignore it. It's a relic of the past before other clients were really viable.
Catchy. I like it.
sgoueb&fcg.com for short references.
We can't even send steam gifts since the update that removed the inventory, so the name is already obsolete anyway. :P
Well we sorta can, but it's a bit cumbersome.
Wait till the winner is drawn, add to Steam friends, purchase game as gift.
It was more of a joke about how hard it is now. I thought the :P at the end was enough. xD
No way to confirm the winner added the game to their account at those places, I think.
I think the confirmation process would be similar.
Do the other sites have a version of the steam auth thingy that allows us to attach our steam accounts to this site? I don't really use them that often, so I'm not sure if they work in the same way.
I know that Uplay game all sync stats to UPlay even if you play them on Steam. GoG also definitely can be synced to Steam since they have GOG Connect. Not sure about the rest.
What he meant is that other DRM platforms don't have a way to "login with" as Steam does (Steam provides an API will most don't), which is troublesome for SG to check things such as if you already own a game etc.
The login thing is a good point for sure.
GoG has an API: https://gogapidocs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/account.html#games-movies
Unfortunately GOG's APIs are specifically for user agents such as their own website and Galaxy and are useful only on the account you're logged in as. For a steamgifts/goggifts website to use them a user would need to let them log in on the user's behalf (by supplying 2FA codes as necessary and basically handing over complete control of the account) which crazy and, thankfully, against GOG's terms of service. If we had the public APIs needed for a goggifts site I'd have made such a site myself years ago.
It is possible to work around the functionality we're missing, but it's a bit awkward. A hypothetical goggift site would probably need at minimum the following:
First they need to have an API to check which games have been added to that users library (to check for win activation), as well as their prices (so as to know whether their account is valuable enough to use SG or whatever the site would change its name to).
That is sensible. I imagine sites like ITAD and the new GG would help at least somewhat with making that a reality.
^^ This (what jiggakills said).
Maybe it could be a way to convince the companies behind the other clients to build the required API. They build it, SteamGifts gives people free games that get them using the other clients. Then some of those people buy things through the other clients store.
@rob: <3 you! :D
shower thinking: a sort of "beta" for those giveaways, no cv/no ownership, just a ... "beta", ok, maybe an alphasomething. i'd "test" that right away!
Keep answer short;
now where is the obligatory ga
Sorry to bother you, moppelmurks, but may I ask what I did to get added to your blacklist?
Sure you can ask, it doesn´t bother me,
You have won over 40 giveaways since your last shared gift.
Considered you as inactive, if that may change, my script will notfiy me.
Since than have a nice weekend and stay healthy!
I appreciate you letting me know.:)
I plan on doing some giveaways around Christmas time, so hopefully that will allow it to change.:)
I hope you have a nice weekend (what is left of it anyhow) as well!:)
I only blacklist ´cuz of the SG activity feed.
Sorry that you belong to users that are within that set range,
since we share alot of friends on steam.
I want to share my gifts with "active" sharing members,
within a range of 3 months & at least LvL 7.
I´d like to take you off asap, so let me know when you get back into action.
I´m self employed, got 2 young kids & a wife, so my time is always short ^^
But thanks alot and sorry, hope to c ya soon
No worries! You didn't even have to let me know in the first place, so it's all good!:) You don't have to apologize!:)
I just wanted to let you know that I had sent you a friend request on Steam. We have a fair number of mutual friends (like you mentioned), and we also have some similar groups!:)
Also, if you don't mind me asking your age...how old are you? The reason I am asking is that there are a couple of couple of groups that I think you'd like (they aren't giveaway groups). The first group is Adult Elite Gamers (the only stipulation is that you have to be 25 years or older), and the second is Adult World Gamers (but that one is 30 years or older, so you may be too young for that one for now). I think you'd like the groups, and I think you have some friends that are in them as well.:)
I added ja to the FL but I want to seize my groups xD so I thankls for letting me know about those but for now I´m not interested in joining thx for the suggestions, ;) also im over 30 so both were okey XD
That sounds like an awesome script. Did you do it yourself?
No im not good in doing stuff like that, but since several days it doesn´t work fully anymore.
As it did stop ESGST from running correctly and that is a much mor importnat script that we all should use and I needed to delete it.
ESGST provides tons of useful scripts which advances your SG expierence alot!
Thank you for sharing, didn't know about it.
Aside from the technical difficulties - yeah, I'd find that great. But I'm pretty sure this would be quite a bit of work for some clients, nearly impossible for others.
I neither want that nor do I see the need for that. Plus I don't see how that would work in practice... not to mention how many more tickets support staff would face.
Yes! Bring back the Battlefield 3 and Minecraft giveaways!
Only if other platform has public libraries, API and Log In with XXX to make sure profiles are correct (aka you are not just linking proifile of known collector so it looks like you own sth). Then I see no problem with other platforms, without it - no way, it would be rulebreaking and regifting spree.
NO too much trouble for nothing, these new markets need API's first, then dedicated sites to them, then a large number of games to make this viable :D
I can see GOG viable for this as it can of mimics the features but for the rest no, they are not even 3rd party market sellers, let's see epic first what it can do :D
If it's possible, yeah, Why not? Epic needa to take off first, but we could do it with GOG. I have a GOG key that I would love to give away, not taken by bots
I'm not convinced Epic will really take off with their client. Anybody use Discord's store that often?
A lot of people I know that are big proponents of GoG still barely use it. Were it not for GoG Connect I wouldn't own any games there. Origin I have about 8 games, Uplay I have about 2 that are ONLY on Uplay and not secondary activation thingies from Steam.
I saw that Ashen, Rebel Galaxy Outlaw, Supergiant's new game Hades, Journey (it's on PC now), that Satisfactory game, the one that seems quite inspired by Factorio are all at least "timed" exclusives to Epic's client. I'm not sure those games hold the same type of audience that Fortnite brings. Though, I imagine there is a fair amount of cross-over.
Also, Dauntless is apparently going to Epic as well.
I don't think Epic will actually compete with Steam. But, I do hope that Valve is forced to react in some manner.
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw
Dangit. I want that game. But not on Epic.
Yeah, same. :c
Just read an article where Double Damage stated Rebel Galaxy Outlaw will come to other stores after 12 months. https://www.pcgamer.com/some-epic-store-games-are-pushing-back-or-scrapping-steam-releases/
Whew! There is hope then! I shall wait it out until it comes to Steam (or GOG).
The relief that washed over me when I read that Hades would probably come to other platforms after early access... Unreasonable relief, man. Hoooo.
Also, yeah, most of those don't seem like Fortnite-player games at all. Still weird to me. Especially Journey, lol :P
Anybody use Discord's store that often?
Anybody use Discord's store that often?
Discord Nitro has some free games that I don't own on Steam (Dandara and The End is Nigh) so technically I've used the store to download those games. The free games have kept me subscribed, but when my $5 subscription no longer has games I will probably cancel instead of upgrading. The store front looks good but I don't plan on buying anything there
www.uplaygifts.com is available for you to start your own version. www.origingifts.com is already taken
make a new site for other gifts?
+1 much less prone to user error, there's too much wrong game selection as it is
We could have a manual opt-in system or a beta with only a handful people. (Might be hard for Origins and Blizzard. I don't think they have APIs or any ways to check if someone actived a game. GOG and Uplay would be easier and a great start.) It probably would revitalize SG, that has been in a downward trend since the changes to inventory. We can even giveaway steam gifts anymore. More clients = more users = more clicks = more ad money. Besides the initial hassle, everybody wins in the long term.
I think it will cause a massive amount of confusion and problems with both people creating and entering giveaways for the wrong client and also problems with being able to code the site properly for all the different clients. It just sounds like a big mess.
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For the sake of keeping users happy and maintaining order such thins would need to be kept separate. Any users of said pages would need to link their account for the respective client to their site account. If you just throw everything together it will cause disappointment, confusion, and CV scamming.
Also some clients have limited number of games, or limited access to keys/gifting make them not worth the effort. GoG would be one of the better choices for an alternative client to set up another gifting site for.
Who keeps all their (gaming) eggs in a single basket nowadays? We need game client inclusion, since it's obvious that monopoly is a vile thing no matter which company or segment is partaking in it. I can't understand gamers which blindly follow Valve's every decision, while refusing to own games on Origin, Uplay, GOG or any other alternative to Steam. Hopefully SteamGifts will adapt.
Who keeps all their (gaming) eggs in a single basket nowadays?
Who keeps all their (gaming) eggs in a single basket nowadays?
Me. It's extremely convenient to have all my games on one place, plus putting up with other clients is simply way too annoying.
NO. We don't need any shitty launchers here with artificial exclusivity.
Agreed. All the companies having their own annoying launchers that you need to download and keep up to date and put up with all their shortcomings... that should be downright prohibited, if you ask me :D
Personally, I'll be happy if we keep Steamgifts purely Steam-related.
I really don't like the idea of boggling everything into one pot that's becoming such a norm in the last 10 years. We used to have websites/forums for every topic, competition was thriving, people were visiting more than one website... but then it all became 99in1, and every website/forum/server/chat had to have it all, and keep all the visitors there all the time, and it spilled into every other service and people got so lazy... Like, what's the problem of making a new service that offers a new thing? No, let's have everything here because who can visit more than one website, right?
Also, they were removed like 6 years ago because it's basically impossible to check if someone actually redeemed their gift or not. That's a really good reason, considering that sadly, not all people here are trustworthy without checks set in place to keep them on the right path.
Is there a way to track all those clients automatically to see that users activate games and so on?
Overall, I'm not against the idea persé.
With this though, as the first comment said, there will be more mistakes in giveaways. To which I'd say, there should then just be punishments for those people.
As long as it works and it's optional for those DRMs, then sure, why not.
But my first question will play the definitive part in whether I agree overall or not.
No, only GOG and Steam have API.
I started to use Playnite lately and only those 2 libraries could be automatically downloaded after I gave them my username. I had to authenticate my account by writing nick and password, to synchronize Origin library (I think SG wouldn't want to store external launcher credentials to sync library every week or so).
Battlenet, Uplay could automatically sync only games that are installed. So Playnice check folders, see exe file and add games to owned list.
Yeah, as long as it's possible to basically run everything the same way for another service like you could for Steam, then I'd be down for it. But otherwise, it'd just create a lot of hassle, lying, regifting and so on.