If I have it in my Steam library, I couldn't give a shit about an extra copy. What the fuck would I do with it? I can't even make a giveaway out of it.
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So you're saying Witcher 2 uses DRM on top of Steam's? Then the smarter move would be to remove that. The problem of what the hell I'm going to actually do with another copy remains.
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The post doesn't give all the details, aside from the DRM-free copy you'll also get all the things people got in the collector's edition in digital form. Aside the coin and Geralt bust of course.
Also aside from steam's DRM the Witcher 2 didn't use any DRM. Except in the box version where you couldn't play it untill the release date, which was eventually removed with a patch later on.
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Um, because it's still a really awesome gesture by the publisher and GOG service? Way to rage over generosity of the developers. We should praise more companies like Ubisoft and EA instead of those that try to give back to the gaming community and loyal fans of the series. Well put.
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It's just I've never understood the fascination with DRM-free copies as well as a Steam copy. If I have a Steam copy, I wouldn't have a clue what I'd do with a DRM-free copy. Discs and Steam I know what to do with. A bunch of 1s and 0s floating around somewhere, I don't. I often forget I even have it and the Steam copy would be the thing I always think to download first.
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The article makes it seem like the ULTIMATE act of generosity when, in truth, it's just a simple backup copy to someone who already owns the game...
... is that supposed to attract more customers? Nope.
In my eyes CD Projekt will always be a whiny lawsuit-thirsty crap of a team.
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There's a saying where I live which translates to:
"If you do good, forget about it. If you do bad, think about it."
Besides, I might be the only one thinking this but a backup copy of a game you paid for should always be available. The fact that they made it a "cross-platform backup" is better than usual, yes, but why shouldn't this be always applicable?
The introduction of DRM Games caused all the non-ADSL/cable users to suck the big one. I used to be a 56k modem user and being forced to use steam to play Half Life 2 was a big disappointment. I have an ADSL connection now but I still find this to be ridiculous, so going back to the good old school way of being able to play single player games offline to me doesn't seem like a gift, but the norm it should be.
Sorry for my ranting, but that's how I view it.
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Man, seriously? Not a thing, but these guys release A LOT of extra content, TOTALLY free. When did any other company did anything like that with their top title? Its not like releasing a $60 game and a $10 DLC right with it, isnt it? How many times have you bought a new $50 game and then given another $50 or more just for DLCs in the following months, to find a Gold edition released in half an year for half the price of the original game. Well, now you get all that with you 1 initial purchase, the way it should be.
Have you ever played any of the Witchers anyway? Or you are just saying what you think is cool to say?
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Well, yes you're right about DLC. I find the whole concept of DLCs a cheap way to suck more money off your pocket when (in truth) that extra content should've been part of the original game in the first place (ehem... DE HR: Missing Link comes to mind), so that's a good thing from their part (even though that should be the norm, not an act of generosity).
But a "free" backup copy when you actually paid for it shouldn't be considered an act of generosity. What if I buy a Physical copy of a game and it breaks? Why shouldn't I be entitled to download the game if I can prove it's mine? That's all I'm saying. This is a normal service game companies should give, not an act of good will.
P.S. I have The Withcer: Enhanced Edition and found it really hard to like. The gimmick of adding sexual relationships to make a mature/serious game doesn't convince me, sorry. Coming to think of it, I should actually try to keep on playing it one day when I'll have the chance... the point and click fighting was too hard to bare.
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Are you 13?! You bought Witcher for 'sexual relationships' gimmick? Scratch that, 13 AND lonely. I can't argue with your argument about making your own copies, since I've experienced faulty physical copies myself but you're behaving like a spoiled and entitled child.
CDP has every right to sue people who brake the law (as in copyright infringement).
Since release of W2 they updated game CONSTANTLY for FREE. ANY DLC was FREE OF CHARGE (notice the trend here?). That's more than ANY publisher/developer, aside maybe from Valve, has done.
As a side note, adding post scriptum at the end of a post, which you can edit at any time (TECHNOLOGY!) is silly. Grow up.
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I didn't buy Witcher, but actually got it as a "drop" during Steam's winter coal drops and such. I view the sexual aspect of Witcher as a gimmick to attract the poor souls that find that awesome, yes, so it's funny you point that out to me since I find it a crude way of selling more copies altogether.
If you even gave my previous comment a read, you should've noticed how I agreed with mm3n about the free DLC aspect, so why are you even pointing that out?
And about my use of post scriptums... what's the big deal of me using them? I think you're getting too steamed up over nothing.
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Sex sells, but in case of Witcher it wasn't the selling point. 1st game's success was a shock to CDP Red, and you can see how polished (heh, polished as in Polish, get it?) sequel is. Now it's just an icon to the series, like a Nameless hero in Gothic/Risen universe and guards in TES.
DLCs are a valid form of supporting developers, provided they're not 'day 1' DLCs. IIRC Missing Link was released some time after HR.
As technology and habits advance, we can abandon some of our customs. It's like you'd sign your every post, even knowing your username is in the upper left/right corner.
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If it's true what you say (that "it wasn't its selling point"), then I guess I should give Witcher a second chance (actually third). I can't help it if I find the story to be bland and the gameplay to be a chore, though.
I agree with supporting the game companies, of course, but in the form of buying a Full Sequel or valid Add-Ons, not over-powered DLC accessories or 1 hour long Episode-games (just to name a couple of examples)... but this is my off-topic opinion.
Anyway, whatever. DRM has taken over, so I guess that having an offline playable copy of a single player game has become a heavenly gift nowadays. sigh
Best regards,
-SFaPiL
;)
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The thing is, developer can charge for his DLC whatever he likes, be it full sequel, chain quest or weapon skins. It's up to you to buy it or not - you can't forbid them, but you don't have to buy it.
Offline, DRM-free playable copy, while standard 5-10 years ago, is rare nowadays. From less intrusive, but annoying (Steam) to developed by absolute fucktards (SecuROM, Starforce) - DRM systems are everywhere. Of course you can use cracks (hell, I'm using them right now, Drakensang looks pretty on a shelf while I'm playing using Daemon Tools), but that's grey zone.
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Wow, did you really pick on his use of a post script, and then added "grow up" at the end of it?
In his defence, I don't see anywhere that he bought it for the sexual relationship.
Just take a chill pill, and read before you start flaming away. He is entitled to his opinion, just as CDP is entitled to sue pirates.
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"This is a normal service game companies should give, not an act of good will."
Okay...what's your point? What "should be" and what is do not match up. What CDProjeck Red is doing is generous. They could easily have not done it, just like a lot of other companies, but they did it. It is an act of good will.
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I guess, but just because someone is giving you a sample of breathable air while everyone else is selling it to you doesn't make his act generous, but rather everyone else's deplorable.
Glass half-empty view? Perhaps, but that's how I see it.
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Maintaining servers that allow you to download a game costs money. Following your way of thinking would led me to think that if i crash my car then the seller should provide me with a new one for free. You remind me of people that live off social benefits (too lazy to find a job) and think that they should be provided with everything for free by the rest of tax-payers. But I can agree that anyone who buys a game should be able to do a backup copies of it, so there should not be any kind of mechanism that prevents you from doing that.
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Steam License collecting always seemed so freaking stupid to me. If the service goes down someday, they'll lose everything, and then what? No more vidya for you I'm afraid, and that already happens if you're out of internet and not connected to steam, rendering you unable to get into offline mode.
And that's without mentioning how limited you are when you have about two layers of DRM per license in most cases, one being Steam itself and the other one being your generic, easily by-passable and annoying DRM software. It's like people have an ever lasting compulsion to see meaningless numbers steadily increase.
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Its just a lot easier to organize, and makes it impossible to lose your games. I would rather have all my games on steam, although I would be more than happy if I was able to download a standalone version as well.
I dont think steam is going anywhere anyway, at least not for a long time.
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I'm not aiming to be a hypocrite, I use Steam and I like it, I just find incredibly inane to massively collect licenses for steam because it's incredibly restrictive and stupid because if you mess up once/go out of internet you'll lose access to your entire collection of licenses you've purchased. It's still an easier way to keep things organized mainly because it was made to keep everything (including yourself) under control and offer products more easily and faster.
Of course, true organization and freedom beats Steam any day. And that's what DRM-free copies offer. You can store them, burn them on a CD and keep them on a shelf, etc etc. If you're truly organized, then it will be impossible to lose your DRM-free products you've purchased due to how easily you can manipulate them around, while Steam solely depends on things out of your control in order to keep your stuff in place.
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That's a nice thing because I plan to buy a retail copy (bonus DVD, book, etc.) and a backup is always nice
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The way I get it, no matter where you bought the game, you get a copy on GOG.com free with your purchase. Right? Not just an .exe file on some download site, but the game right on their platform.
Totally awesome. Look at the extra content the game has there:
Bonus content included for FREE with purchase: multi language manuals 18 wallpapers exclusive game guide (97 pages) high quality artbook (196 pages) soundtrack (320 kb/s 27 tracks) 14 bonus videos (46 min) 6 making of videos (48 min) 14 avatars 41 HQ artworks map of The Northen Kingdom 7 papercraft dolls with game's characters pamphlet & envelope The Witcher 2 version 2.0 autopatcher
Consider it will be the upcoming Enhanced Edition too, so even more. Amazing.
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Wow.. CD Projekt offer DRM free copies of their games to customers. And you guys complain?
Silly stupid people.
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They've got some balls. Most companies ensure that their impulsive consumers don't get a gasp of control over what they're buying before publishing a product.
Sadly this means people will end up sharing their games with friends, but I guess they're not that troubled with that. What they're really troubled with is the people massively distribute their product, or even sell it for profit.
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On a related note, the GOG Fallout version is vastly superior to the Steam version from the collection. Goodies like the manual, soundtrack, wallpapers, Fallout Bible, and some other things. Guaranteed to work on Windows XP, Vista, 7 and even Windows 8, from what I've read. Definitely awesome.
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Apparently CD Projekt is going to giving a free "backup" DRM-free copy of Witcher 2 to all previous owners on April 17th.
As discussed on RPS
"Because CDP took the stage during a streaming conference to announce – among other things – an extra DRM-free copy of Witcher 2 for all previous owners regardless of which platform they originally nabbed it on and pre-load details for the Enhanced Edition. "
So assuming you have it in your Steam library should be able to get a DRM free version on that date.
It can be redeemed here at that date. "Thanks for stopping by. You're on the right page but a few days too soon. You can claim your free copy of Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition on April 17th right here on GOG.com."
Since it's provided by GoG you will probably get the bonus content available on there as well.
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