Nothing really makes sense about that domain:
Query String digikeys.co.uk
Domain Owner M Lally (Other UK Entity (e.g. clubs, associations, many universities))
Domain Registrar Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-reg
IP Address 50.56.22.177 (hosts 115 known websites)
Hostname 505622177.srv.ashop.com.au
Location San Antonio, United States
IP Owned By [ RACKS-8-89987095409840 ] [ RACKS-8-NET-4 ] [ Rackspace Hosting ]
So it's a UK domain, registered as a non-trading entity, pseudo hosted in Australia but actually hosted in the US.
Nothing about that reassures me, lol.
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I'm a web developer myself and your argument is invalid. What if they got a cloud hosting?
p.s: I'm not defending them, I just had to mention this.
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the prices are too expensive.
infinite =29,22€ (you can get it for around 10-15€)
last light =38,58€ (got mine for 18€]
riptide =23,38€ (it was on sale for 11€ not long ago and is still available on ST for that amount)
Borderlands 2 =17,53€ (it is available for under 10€)
Dark Souls =15,19€ (it was available for 7,49$ on amazon and therefore is cheaper on ST)
Walking Dead =11,68€ (it was available for less in Humble Bundle so go to ST and trade for it instead)
just checked this games from the start page and all are way too expensive, so not a good site for buying games if you want to get the best deal. :)
I recommend shops like amazon.com, nuveem.com.br, gamersgate and green man gaming which all have better deals than this site most of the time.
cheers
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Legit? Definitely no.
The "keys" part in the website's domain is already a big "no-no". Usually only shady businesses use that word, and nobody who intends to open a legit store and has even a minimal understanding of marketing would pick such a name.
Other than that, legit stores always have an "about us" page where they state how they obtain keys and list their major publisher partners, like here, here or here. Digikeys doesn't even have a proper FAQ.
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Couldn't find the site using Google. Skyrim Legendary for $30 is very sketchy unless its from Steam or Amazon. Most of their stuff is out of stock. They don't have Black Ops 2 yet they take preorders for CoD Ghosts and BF4. They don't require correct ID or email. They only accept paypal.
I'd say this site is legit
;P
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Nobody ever reads the Terms of Service, ever, which usually makes it the best place to go to judge a website. Fake sites either have poorly written ToS, or just straight up rip them from somewhere else. In this case, DigiKeys seems to have used Find/Replace on GamersGate's ToS, because they missed something:
"Your use of the Website constitutes your agreement to defend, indemnify, and hold harmless GamersGate, its parents and affiliates, and their respective employees, contractors, officers, and directors, from and against any actions, claims, demands, liability and expenses, including reasonable attorneys’ fees, arising out of your use or misuse of the Website or the use or misuse of the Website by a third party using your account."
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Yep. Can't wait til Amazon, GMG, Gamersgate and the other scam sites get shut down!
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They are not 'keyshops' but legitimate e-stores where you can, among others, obtain keys... How to differentiate between them? If they don't offer downloads for any of their games, it's most likely a 'keyshop'. If they write anywhere on their website that you need to get the game on your own and then activate their key, it's again a 'keyshop'. If they force you to use VPN - 'keyshop'. Remember the difference.
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... It's far easier to describe what you mean by using the words "authorised resellers".
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Dude seems dodgier than the Dodge City Dodgers Dodgeball team.
Not cool.
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There's more to this story, also. Just posted a pastebin in the discussions on the "witty and sagacious" group so you can read it. Members only so not publicly viewable. Wonder what you think of this.
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You say "company". Where are you registered? Any chamber of commerce anywhere?
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Illogical assumption,
There is a system in place to adjust currency of the user depending on their location. How does this prove we are not a legitimate site?
We expect to take orders from around the world. Currently, the US,UK,EU and AUS are the leading countries in terms of visitors and sales. Hence the currency changes.
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Ok - how about an easy one to kick this off:
1) Why did you lie about being a customer when it was your site all along?
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To be honest, nothing looks more suspicious than a site owner who lies to potential customers, or claims to be something or someone they are not. Keysites struggle for credibility already, and lying to people really doesn't help your cause...
Still, it's good that you've decided to come clean. As you say though, the damage may already be done...
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The damage you speak of though is merely directed at me. No one yet however can prove that my site is not legitimate. I am in the process of setting up a trust pilot page so that customers who have purchased from us can share their experience.
In the 1 month that we have been open we have served almost 150 customers, none of which to this day have complained about a defective order, or malpractice.
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As the site owner, your credibility (or otherwise) reflects directly on your site.
If people mistrust you, they will mistrust your website.
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Why did you delete all your replies in this thread? Why did you lie about being "regular forum-goer"? Why did you lie about not being affiliated with the site? Why is your TOS stolen from GamersGate? Why are your keys more expensive than GMG, amazon, Steam...? How can you prove that it indeed IS "your site"?
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Currently i cannot afford to hire a legal consultant who can draw up a detailed ToS. I deleted my posts simply because i wanted to clear all the nonsense i typed in addition admit my idiocy and explain my reasons for. Our games are not as expensive as you make out. There is a 25% discount running on all games. After the discount is applied some of the games are cheaper, or similarly priced. I can prove this is my site by updating the background page for you with your name on it? :)
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Will this post be deleted too, in order to hide more inconvenient replies?
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How about answering these questions:
1) Where is your site hosted? Geographically, as well as like, in a server rack somewhere, or what? And where did you do the domain registry?
2) Who is this user to you? How do you know them?
3) What is up with your name history on Steam? "No1 Hacker" / "Best Hacker"?? Really?
4) Do you realise this is inherently deceptive and that this site / its' forum isn't your personal marketing hub?
Also, please answer user kangarooster's questions.
If you're legit, and your site is legit, you sure have a funny way of making it seem so.. Anyway, if it is, you should have no problem answering our questions, and should see them as a chance to clear your name.
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Our site is hosted with an Australian Company, but i believe they currently host using the cloud. So may be based in countries outside Australia.
That user is an acquaintance i met whilst playing CoD Blops 2
It was a joke amongst a few friends after constantly being called a hacker in Call of Duty Lobbies. Add me on steam, check my in game statistics you will see why.
I did not create this thread, i am only clearing up my points.... after making myself look like an absolute fool.
His/her question has been answered.
Regards
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Well, let's put it like this. Your earlier behaviour made me report you to mods for checking you out, as it seemed the site was very dodgy, and your behaviour even more so. You've already lost a lot of credibility, and most users even reading these threads already have quite good sources for cheap games, often far below the prices you offer, anyway.
Whether your site's legit or not (and I do now entertain the thought but still don't trust it fully), I won't be buying from you and risking anything, and I don't think anyone else who's been a part of this thread will, either.
In the future, you might want to consider thinking about your behaviour better, especially when trying to act as a shill for your own site. Heck here's a silly idea. Don't associate your Steam account (personal and non-professional) with your online persona (professional) as site owner, until your site's an established name that already has garnered a lot of trust and can back that up with a proven track record / that trustpilot thing. Set up a proper, new e-mail address that you use only for business communications, and maybe a Facebook profile. It's one thing having an established web store and then using your personal Steam account to communicate on any matters concerning that store. It's another having a fairly new store that still needs to "earn its' stripes", and letting everyone know you're just some guy sitting behind his PC somewhere running all this, who also has buddies on his friends list that are confirmed hackers with VAC bans. See the difference?
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Exactly. And hearsay is based on and most strongly influenced by what, exactly? That's right, opinions and impressions. And you've made a horrible, smelly impression so far.
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I feel it is not fair to judge the merit of my company based on this. These are all baseless and illogical assumptions being made.
Until someone actually orders a game and experiences malpractice then the name can be trashed.
However that would not happen, and it is simply unfair to do so.
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... If the maker / owner of a site is fishy as shit, the site's credibility also goes down the toilet. And then there's still this:
"4) Do you realise this is inherently deceptive and that this site / its' forum isn't your personal marketing hub?"
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Because you're the site owner and trying to use this as a place to promote your site. The other threads are from regular users posting deals they find and want to share from multiple sources across the web.
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They aren't advertising, they are sharing specific good deals with fellow gamers for use. Not for promotion of said sites.
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They aren't receiving compensation for it like you are (or would have if you weren't so shady...)
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People are posting these deals because they are exceptionally good, and these deals are being advertised for the benefit of other users, NOT the posters themselves. All the deals are offered by 3rd parties (Amazon, Gamersgate, etc.) with whom the the posters are completely disconnected. The posters do not benefit from the sharing of these deals, but many other forums users benefit from this sort of "advertising". That is the difference, and it's a big one.
I'd suggest that advertising your own services without prior arrangement with the site owner (cg) is no different to posting referral links, which is entirely against the site rules and usually results in a suspension or ban.
The time honoured route to advertising a website you own is to create a giveaway, and link to it in the description. Alternatively, if you want to drive a bit of traffic your way, you could even create a puzzle with answers which could be found by looking on your website.
Whatever path you choose to take, the biggest favour you can do yourself is to be honest and upfront. Mud sticks, and lies are easily the stickiest mud around.
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You are also forgetting that you asked a question in your post, which I have answered in the above reply.
However, that aside, I was simply attempting to offer some helpful advice in the above post on possible ways to gain additional exposure WITHIN the rules, in addition to providing a balanced answer to your previous question.
If I had wanted to reply to the OP's post, I am competent enough to have done so. I replied to yours, so you might want to refamiliarise yourself with its content before accusing others of sharing your amnesia.
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How is whether or not you created the thread at all relevant to the point posited by AtomicWoodchuck? I'll answer that for you - it is entirely irrelevant.
Especially concerning the whole "breaking site rules" thing concerning ref. links.
You might not have created that thread, but you are definitely promoting your site here and leveraging this thread for your own benefit.
You should have kept your posts here to something like "I'm the owner of that site, and I can promise it's legit, which I can also back up. I will be happy to answer any questions any of you have if you add me on Steam :)". Or something similar.
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You've pretty much destroyed any credibility that your site had/will get by posting at all in this thread... You should just quit while you still have an active account on this site...
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This thread is a perfect example of the following fallacy.
Poisoning the Well discredits opponents before the audience receives their argument. Essentially the opponents are given a bad reputation and are consistently fighting an uphill battle to convince the audience of their argument.
The argument here is the legitimacy of the website. No one here can yet prove the illegitimacy of the site and it's practices.
However most of you are steering away from the website and it's operations and instead targeting my credibility.
Can someone stand up and say i have been scammed? It's just not possible as it has not and will not happen.
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Seeing as YOU are the sole employee of said site then yes, your credibility entirely reflects on the site...
If the owner and only employee of any store lies to his "potential" customers then how can he expect anyone to think that he won't continue to in the future..?
You keep asking people to prove that your site isn't legit when you've already proven that you yourself aren't legit and you are the only representative your site has...
When money is involved it only takes one lie for me personally to never trust the company in question again, I'm sure there are a lot of other people who share a similar opinion.
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.. Are you seriously this stupid?
We all understand and know what you say quite well, which is why we're all telling you, in slightly more verbose and polite terms, to just shut up, and piss off. Every comment you post only makes people want to buy from you less. You already made a stink and did something bad, offended us. And yet you keep on posting, on and on, every time opening a new avenue for us to dig at you from. And now you yourself use the term "poisoning the well" - you're fully aware it's happening, and yet you still keep posting asking us to trust your site and buy from you?
You really suck at promotion and communication.
Let me try to put this in simple terms. If people like you, they will want to buy from you. If people don't like you, they won't want to buy from you. We don't like you, we have a good reason not to because of something you did, and the more you try telling us we're just acting like big meanies and we should all just try to buy from you, the more fucking annoying you get.
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Also, might we ask what the source is of your keys? How do you get them? Especially the Skyrim Legendary, which you sell for hella cheap ($30), which must include profits.
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I have been in contact with UK and EU based distributors. (Centresoft) (Advantage) (Pavillion) and a few others who i cannot name.
If you buy in bulk your cost is reduced significantly. I do not have lots of staff to pay, i do not have many overheads as this is an online based business. Hence i can sell at low prices and still turn a profit.
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I already defined exactly why I will never be buying from you in my other reply higher up. And you can be damn sure I'm at the tip of the spear here, along with AtomicWoodchuck, as not only have you first tried to deceive users of this community, of which we're a part, you then deleted your tracks like a spineless jellyfish.
And now you act butthurt because you garnered some negative attention, due to your own damn behaviour? Even though you're breaking the site's rules, which you obviously give less than 1 shit about (purely seeing this site as a pool of potential customers)?
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1) You've not once apologised, you've only admitted fault.
2) Deleting your tracks, trying to hide your missteps, yes, is quite spineless if you ask me. I've pissed people off on this forum before, and even admitted my fault later in the same thread, but I always have left my posts there for others to see and judge for themselves.
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Deleting all evidence that you lied to everyone in this thread was the "spineless" part...
If you were REALLY an honest person you wouldn't have lied in the first place, if you were genuinely sorry you would have apologized without trying to cover up your tracks by deleting your posts, it just made you look even more shady than you already do.
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Let me also add that out of principal, I will never buy anything off someone who's so deceptive as to try and use shills or other false feedback of any kind to promote their product / services.
If you've got a good site / product / service, its' quality and your proper promotion and networking / people skills should be enough to garner customers. You shouldn't need to stoop, ever, to a level as low as to lie and pretend to be someone you're not.
And you've also still not answered my question concerning where your company's registered. What chamber of commerce, where?
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Just wondering if this site here was legit since it was shown on a popular youtube channel a few days ago.
They are offering 25% off all purchases which made rush towards an instant pre-order for bf4.
Has anyone ever bought from this site? Did you have any problems?
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