Is there anyway I could do it, because I idle overnight and I can't wake up every hour and take a look @ my PC.

GGGGAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBEEEEEEE NNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????????????????????

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Yes, play the game

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this

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Playing the game? Don't be ridiculous

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I hate TF2.

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So delete the game.

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Dude I have around 1 TB of storage and I haven't even used half, so I don't really care.

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Then I guess you just gotta deal with it, because using software to bypass it can get you banned.

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Porn? Man i'm no pervert.

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No porn? Man you're not a man.

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The truth is i'm not a man. I'm just a nerd dude who sits in front on his computer all day playing video games. That's just how I am. I don't work out. But I never get fat because I eat extremely little. And I suck at every single sport.

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So if you play video games why can't you play TF2 which is, you won't believe it, a video game?

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Because I dont like RF2

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Then you don't deserve to get free items from it

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But a lot of games I purchase from my TF2 stuff are donated here. 8==D

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No more contributor gibeways fo yu! :P

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Now I get from Steam trading cards :P. That's how I made the Terraria giveaway.

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This is offtopic, I will report you! :O x)

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Ownage :P

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Wait do you have some kind of religion that prevents you from downloading and watching porn?

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Islam.

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Right. Because he's an idiot for asking you a question. What a good muslim you are, being a dick to people for no reason. Jackass.

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Sorry. :(

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But in islam you can have 4 girls

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Are you saying that being a pervert is a bad thing? :S

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In my opinion it is.

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People and porn today are crazy.

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Obviously don't hate it if you wanna whore it for profit.

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So why do you want to get items from it? The drop system is there to reward people who like to play the game.

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"Is there a way I can circumvent the limitations imposed by the game to prevent people from doing what I want to do?"

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+1000

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But the game sucks ...

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angry gamer is angry

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he is not gamer, he is idler

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touchè.

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Boosh!

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Lol, true!

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I don't get it

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You don't get many, many things.

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That is incredibly true of him.

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Seroiusly, I dont get it

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LOL @ Homer Drinking Bird. Whatever works I guess.

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this should work

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+1.

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"I'm just waiting for this to escalate into Valve issuing a statement saying "we noted that many of you were using inanimate objects to press keys on your keyboard, so we've updated VAC to check that an organic being be at the keyboard at all times" and some guy posting a video of his cat laying on the keyboard."

Rofl.

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Not possible. Just play the frigging game.

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So you basically want to automate the clicks that accept you those new items in TF2?
Just use a macro (google that yourself), I have a software that came with my mouse so you will have to find another one that could click at exact coordinates on the screen and can repeat macros after an amount of time.

It may seem overwhelming for a thread operator but I believe in you. You can do it!

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This is why we can't have nice things.

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you can risk a vac ban. Wait a few wweks.

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I don't think that idling is VAC ban material, explain yourself please, I'm curious.

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Valve's Recent Update Targeting Idling

Manual idling isn't bannable, though use of an external program to automate the process (which would be needed in order for the OP to idle overnight) could potentially result in a VAC ban.

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Thanks for that piece of info. It says you may be banned. I'm sure VAC can't detect macro programs, but I can imagine it would try to see if an action is repeated at an exact interval in an exact pattern. There are ways around that too. Still I don't encourage idlers. I can proudly say I haven't idled in 3 weeks.

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As can I. We are idlers anonymous

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you can bypass it easily - add random +-Xminutes to Sleep function and have fun ;p Ofc I'm not encouraging any form of scripting for TF2 idling - just stating, that it's pretty easy to trick checking if action was performed at same interval ;p

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you can't bypass it so easily. behavior pattern detection (even automated one) isn't tricked by random sleep minutes

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Idlers get items. Those items might get sold on the marketplace, which Valve gets a cut off. The idlers might also get crates, which they trade with other people (or sell on the marketplace, again with a small cut going to Valve) and those crates require keys which only Valve sell.

The idling community is working in Valve's interest.

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It's not fair to the average tf2 player who does not idle.

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Don't they get a flat percent? So, if prices rise because idlers aren't flooding the markets, anything lost in volume would be corrected by the increased price. Plus, rewarding people for playing the game instead of rewarding idle farms is a good way to keep the players happy.

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Macro that presses j and enter.

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AutoHotKey.

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AutoIT is better ;p

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play the game

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pay someone to play the game for you

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yes, give all the items u idled to a person who idled for you, gr8 idea indeed

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Why would you do that?

just play the damn game.

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O_O Didn't know about this update. Oh well seems my 3 upgrade to premiums got wasted. I guess I will just use them as extra backpack...

@ OP- I wouldn't try to bypass that if I were you. I doubt it's possible 'legally'. Someone might make a program to do it but you risk a ban. Not worth it.

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RIP Bannoltuk2, Bannoltuk3 and Bannoltuk4, you will be missed.

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yes

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LOL

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Set launch options: -textmode -nosound -noipx -novid -nopreload -nojoy -sw -maxplayers 2 +sv_lan 1 +map "itemtest"

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Is this 2012?

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It's 2013 and I wrote that without reading the article. So turns out no more textmode idling :(

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On July 17, 2013, the way items are acquired has changed. In order to get an item, the player must be active, meaning they have to be:

Connected to VAC Secure server.
Responding to in-game drop notifications while not utilizing external programs to do so.
Running only one instance of the game.
Not running the game in textmode.
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yes several. but why point th out?

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Wonder why they did this, if this will succeed it's going to decrease their cut/profit from key and market sales, ain't it?

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It should increase sale of tf2 keys from the mann. co store, which is more than the 15 % they get from market transactions, maybe that's whats driving them

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They'd be losing the potential premium accounts people buy for their scam farms, but this should help thin out the supply surplus (eventually), thus raising prices.

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All who wanted to make farms probably have them by now

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Premiums are needed one per account. After that it's done. Valve gets nothing from them. They farm metals and get keys/hats/whatever the want.

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Well, I don't see a huge problem there. After max. 3 hours of playing you should have acquired all cards.

Even if you don't like it:) Give it a try.

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?

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Dude... Like... You either need to stop drinking, or you need to drink a fuckload more.

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oh dear

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Is your brain idling? :P

Get back to the controls and have another read of the opening post :)

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Except the fact that no one is talking about cards in this thread...

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lolwut

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Gaben says "don't do it, kids"...

Things that could get you removed from Gabe's Christmas list (and also trade/VAC banned):

  • Running multiple instances of TF2

  • Using scripts and/or 3rd party software such as AHK to confirm drops

Idling is very much dead. The nails are in the coffin. Goodnight sweet metallic prince.

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It does say 'external programs' and aren't scripts internal programs? I'm sure it's a no-no, but a clarification would be great, especially since if scripts are allowed, this won't even put a dent in idling.

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I'm not so sure. Disallowing multiple instances of the game is the biggest show-stopper for idlers. Even with a script to confirm drops, farmers with hundreds or even thousands of accounts, now forced to run them one at a time, are going to find it a fairly denting experience :)

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It might say that, but Valve is not going to start banning people for using AutoHotKey. It's been a perfectly acceptable macro program for years now and people run it in the background for all sorts of things (accessability, ease of use, keyboard shortcuts, etc.). People do not get VAC banned for using spy or engineer macros or equipment-buying macros in CS.

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I guess time will tell. I think the biggest deal is their "multiple instances of the game" line. If Valve are as good as their word, that pretty much signals the end of the line for account farm operators :)

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Unless they're limiting active instances of Steam to one per IP address, I don't see how they can really stop it. I think the wording in their new policy update is mostly tailored to scare people off, but I doubt they're cracking down on idlers using virtual machines and dummy accounts. Valve probably believes that this additional layer of having to confirm item drops is enough deterrent.

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I suspect between Steamguard and trading records, Valve are already well aware of who has multiple accounts, and who uses them for large scale idling. I guess it all comes down to brinkmanship, and whether people are willing to gamble the status of their main account for extra TF2 goods.

Valve's general lack of clarification until now hasn't helped, but I think the linked statement of intent makes very clear their new stance on idling, and paves the way for their taking action against idlers. The only question in my mind is where they draw the line. The big idlers will be in big trouble, but what about those with only one or two alt accounts?

It's anyone's guess what Valve will do, but if their intransigence on repealing VAC bans is anything to go by, should they decide to take action against accounts, I wouldn't expect them to do any U-turns based on sob stories and pleas of innocence...

Idling just became a very risky game and, for many, the rewards no longer justify these risks.

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One per IP seems a bit restrictive. We have three separate ppl with 5 machines between us, two of who actually play the game (no idling, one account apiece) on a single public IP, via NAT. I don't think that's an uncommon situation, either. Surely they wouldn't restrict that?

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You can try to code a program that clicks on a specific coordinate in timed intervals. But that's too much hassle xD

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You could, but having read Valve's official word on the subject, I'd say this would be a seriously unwise course of action...

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It's the Halocaust all over again. ihope

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... First of all, neanderthal, it's holocaust.

Second, what in fuck do you mean? That idlers are "jews"? Yeah, real funny, dipshit.

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"The Cheater's Lament is a headwear item, wearable by all classes. It is a glowing golden halo attached to the wearer's head by two slightly crooked wires.

This hat was awarded on September 2, 2009 to all players who had not used external idling programs and had played at least once since the introduction of the item drop system."

this event is known as the halocaust amongst TF2 players

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Lovely...

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I guess you owe me an apology.

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I do, but I hope you understand why I posted what I posted, not knowing of this item. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here... Pretty sure he meant "halocaust" not holocaust :)

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Thanks for the heads-up.

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Well, sucks for the friends I gave crap to. I idled while I was out getting the groceries, but no more crap for them.

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hahahahaha

I love this. Cry, idlers!!

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have you tried playing the game?

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playing the game?... wait, TF2 is a game!?

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No, it's just a hat sim, sheesh.

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