Blacklist is limited to 1.000 users only.
As for some users, who have been long here (like me) & who have "some standards" - we have exhausted the list of 1.000 users.

Do some of you think that we should make Blacklist longer than 1.000 users? Vote.
Or is 1.000 users enough? Vote, comment.
Personally, I would even become a Patron, if that would give me an option to have more than 1.000 users on Blacklist.

Otherwise users like me would give only in the "group giveaways", hidden from the rest of the people who don't give pennies (& much less games here).

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Would you like to have Blacklist with more than 1.000 users?

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Maybe we could have a "blacklist slot donation" option. I have 1000 open slots in my blacklist, ready to be donated.

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I would give him all my BL slots if I could.
The more people he will BL the better for them ;)

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Otherwise users like me would give only in the "group giveaways"

Just do it. Or you can use whitelist instead of group, if it's easier to maintain for you. Additive model will definitely work better for your case than subtractive one.

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You're obsessed with that list, eh? Not sure if I get on it for my comment, but I guess there's no slot left :)

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Why would you get it for your comment?
There's FREE of speech in my part of the Western society.
We are not COMMUNISTs here! 😁

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Aight.
Guess you never read anything about communism, did you? But freedom of speech is a great thing to have,that's right!

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Fuck reading.
I participated in destroying it on European soil. πŸ‘πŸ˜Ž

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You personally? Not your ancestors, together with many people from many other countries?

Would you care to elaborate?

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I personally.

Not here to elaborate. But add me on STEAM, we can chat. πŸ‘

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But add me on STEAM, we can chat. πŸ‘

Thanks but I don't really use Steam for chatting. When I feel talkative I usually do it here.

The difference is here on SteamGifts I can decide when I wanna talk while on Steam it has happened to me repeatedly that people try to chat me up in the middle of a gaming session and don't take the hint even if I repeat it like 3 times.

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Communism never really existed... So what did you destroy over there?

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You must be joking. πŸ‘Ž

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That's why reading would be a great deal to you. This ain't no joke, because if you would know what communism is all about, you would see, that the Soviet Union and all the others had pretty much nothing to do with that...

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Oh really...do lighten us up.
There wasn't a communism in the World after WWII?
What kind of government were then in SSSR, PR China, Northern Korea, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, SFRY, etc.?

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They are referring to the idealist communism, that is indeed was not reached by any country - it would need a complete mind-shift that is likely not possible anymore because people are flawed. (It includes selflessness, giving everyone 100% to the common goal, reasonable goals, and has no private property as the society shares everything as a communa)

What kind of government were then in SSSR, PR China, Northern Korea, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, SFRY, etc.?

China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam and the Soviet Union were/are communist states, the others were democratic socialist ones.
Including:
Hungarian People's Republic (one-party socialist republic)
Socialist Republic of Romania
People's Republic of Bulgaria (socialist republic)

Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia* that was made up by six countries
Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina
Socialist Republic of Croatia
Socialist Republic of Macedonia
Socialist Republic of Montenegro
Socialist Republic of Serbia
Socialist Republic of Slovenia

Communism =/= socialism, there are a lot of information available about the difference, if you take a little time to know Europe's, especially Eastern Europe's history better,
These are pretty good sources for it:
https://www.history.com/news/socialism-communism-differences
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100214/what-difference-between-communism-and-socialism.asp
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/glossary/socialism-vs-communism/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrtDZ-LOXFw

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You couldn't have been more wrong.
But you've been too young to experience the old days in Hungary.
& know really "a Jack shit" about SFRY. πŸ‘

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Lovely how when you are facing facts you turn to personal attacks, and how it's you who is right, the world is incorrect. One day you'll just implode from your own ignorant arrogancy.

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Don't you get it that he's the only Hungarian survivor from those days and all the historians are just random people who live in far away places with no actual knowledge?

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I mean, my grandmother and her husband built a house of their own that still stands to this day.
Having a private property is not communism (there is no private ownership of anything), but socialism - where only the means of manufacturing are solely in the hands of the government.
Socialism still does not mean that they won't set up a show-lawsuit against you and deport you to work camps if you wrong someone in the higher circles of the system, or if you are vocal against how you don't like the system. It was borderline dictatorial and often built on fear, but it was socialism.

Also it's lovely how he balances between:

  • All the info that I claim to be true, you just need to look at the good place, if you even know where it is 8) (but also regarding same info, other times you just need to make your research)
  • You won't even understand, so why I even bother, I'm out
  • You don't even comprehend how wrong you and your sources are, because I said so
  • Also you're a bully and omg, how you treat me.

At least he is not calling everyone disagreeing him a nazi, so I guess it's a slight step up compared to others.

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Actual communism outside fairy tales seems to mean that only the Party and their friends can privately own anything so more like a feudal system. Good thing we beat it in world and civil wars to gain freedom and our current system where even the Socialist-Left wing-Green-Center-Swede government is bound by democracy. There's even one who calls herself the only communist politician there. :)

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At least he is not calling everyone disagreeing him a nazi, so I guess it's a slight step up compared to others.

So... there might still be hope for him then? Maybe he's not too much of a lost soul and too far gone. yet

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Ask them about "nationalization" of big properties. Then you will see that it was communism.
& no, communism had "work camp" & pursued the "political opponents", as by definition "dictator socialism is communism".
As I suspected, you're too young to know it.

Have to go to trade with another "game horder". Enjoy. πŸ‘

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I get what you mean. But the thing is: those dictatorial states never really had an interest in communism. It was all about power, so that the "revolution" never ends and those people on top never have to give up their power, like it would be in communism.

I think adam1224 adds to that.

Hope it became clearer now.

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Quite crazy when people in eastern Europe has trouble differentiating socialism and communism, considering our history.

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What your country's ancestors did (and not you), is a sweet deal with that mentally unstable guy with the tiny moustache, to use your country as a warm and resting place while spreading death in the name of the most misanthropic ideology in human history.

UstaΕ‘a – Croatian Revolutionary Movement

You'd better get down to reading some books before feeling proud for nothing.

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Yes, Croatia had tendency to become separate from Kingdom of Yugoslavia. That's why one of it's regime was inclined towards Axis powers. It other part was part of Allied forces as communist partisan's, which won the WWII in this area.

But if you know what happen after that, it was communism with far more deaths than in WWII.
& yes, I had participated in removing of communist regime in Croatia.
& yes, I do remember how bad it was, when I couldn't get bananas as a child. As there were not enough gas, so people were driving with odd plates on odd dates & even plates on even dates. & that you couldn't get jeans, unless you go outside to Italy for it. There was no LEGO for us as a children. & computers were banned, as you were considered to be "enemy of the state" in Yugoslavia if you had one (or be a privileged member of communist's regime).

So, please don't speak about things you don't know! πŸ‘

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Ok. Bananas & jeans, LEGOs and computers, same old same old rhetoric of the illiterate anti-socialist warriors. I'm older than you and live in Greece, we also didnt't have any of these products in quantities for the masses to buy. Note that our regime was far-right, but we both had very cheap fruits, meat, olive oil etc. and now we pay them 10x more.

Anyway, Tito was neither a "good" guy, nor a socialist. It was more like a dictatorship with the veil of socialism. He also had clear imperialistic views of the balkan peninsula. I'm sure you're taught back then that THIS was communism or socialism or whatever, but it's quite clear that it was not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito%E2%80%93Stalin_split

So, to get back on track with your first claim, REAL freedom of speech does not exist in either Tito's so-called socialism or Stalin's socialism, or Orban's nazism or Trump's racism-o-fascism.

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We agree to disagree.

But as you like Wiki so much, 1st read these:

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Anyway, Tito was neither a "good" guy, nor a socialist. It was more like a dictatorship with the veil of socialism. He also had clear imperialistic views of the balkan peninsula. I'm sure you're taught back then that THIS was communism or socialism or whatever, but it's quite clear that it was not.

You have to start READING for a change. Tito was a dictator. He even argued and split with Stalin, a former socialist and then dictator himself. You may call any dictatorship as you like, communism, stalinism, marxism, vodka revolution or the invasion of the red panda . History remains as is. Β―\(ツ)/Β―

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Just hope you & your dear ones are OK.
Heard about the 7.0 in Greece just now.

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I ended up checking a lot of the entries of my giveaways for white/blacklist candidates. Once the BL was full I removed all the lower level users from my blacklist and stopped making giveaways at that level (not counting group/ WL). Right now I am at lvl 6 giveaways although I have not updated my BL in ages.

Also have a WL considering that a lot of people are probably going to BL you for bringing up such a topic.

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No, most people are blacklisted by him already XD

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I wish they would add a comment box for each WL&BL added so you can remember why you added them.

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Wirh ESGST you can among other things add a tag to users.

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I think I understand your limit pain. I can suggest you start public giveaways on higher level and filter rotten apples over that milestone. Cause you want blacklist users with allergy on giving, even 100k slots won't be enough.

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blacklist is still a thing?

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Well it is individual preference for blacklisting. You can suggest it and see whether if it will be implemented. Giveaway is also personal judgement, you may think somebody is not eligible for your giveaway and you can always create it for those you prefer. But do take in consideration that even when you create a giveaway, the chances of winning by the person you intend to blacklist is low, especially when it was for public low level. Unless its a giveaway for delicate group. Anyway entering a giveaway is just like a lottery haha.

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+1

Unfortunately, it's more bots & leeches here than users. So that's why some of us tend to giveaway games to some real & good person.

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This is userfobia

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Im a bit curious regarding how one keep track if all 1000 people on their blacklist still deserve to be there or if the behavior that got them blacklisted have improved?

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To be honest, it's impossible to blacklist 1,000 people for bad behaviour. I have been a member on a game website for 11+ years at the moment, and you can blacklist people that you don't want to play with or against. In my 11 years there, I have blacklisted the odd person for being a douchewaffle and I currently have a grand total of 2 on that list. Haha! And oh boy do they both deserve to stay there.

My SG blacklist consists of 1 or 2 people who abused a group I was in. People who blacklisted me. And a couple of people who exploited a GA to give 10s of copies away here, and crashing the system as a result. The dev was a really nice guy, I was chatting to him, and it kinda made me mad at the time that people exploited what was essentially a lockdown relief GA. LOL! Knowing me, I'll probably just remove them from that list when I forget why they're there. XD

If one can't remember why they put an individual on their blacklist, they probably shouldn't be on it. That's how I think anyway. =)

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"If one can't remember why they put an individual on their blacklist, they probably shouldn't be on it. That's how I think anyway."
That i totally agree with :)

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To answer your question, yes - some people have changed their behavior & gotten of BL.
Not much, though.

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Ah, okay :)

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This is like doing charity work but hate the poor.

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That's apt for describing a vast number of people on SG. :P

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Morality and stuff is really personal and relative.

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I havent blacklisted many, but there should be an option to blacklist as many as u would want. I think it is fair to blacklist people u do not want to interact with or to join your giveaways.

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Isn't the limit removed for Premium accounts?

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I get it. You are running out of slots so you want others to blacklist you to help you. :D

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Nice one xD

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Yes, preferably people who think Earth if flat...who believe in nocences of David Icke...who think Coronavirus doesn't exist...& Harry Potter & Lord of the rings fans. πŸ‘

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Just out of curiosity... what's wrong with Lord of the Rings?

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Don't like MAGIC. πŸ‘

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May I ask why?

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It doesn't exist & I'm not a child to believe in it.
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Also, I'm not uneducated cave man to believe in magic.
Why?
Just well educated to know about "Arthur C. Clarke 3 laws". If you don't know about them, read more.
The 3rd law is at stake here.
But from my collection, you can see I have mostly SF games & others. So I'm more inclined into "advanced technology" then magic.
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People still can choose to believe in what they want to believe.
There are people still believing that the Earth is flat.
That doesn't make them right, but they can still believe it. πŸ‘

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You do know that you don't have to be "uneducated cave man" or "child" to have fun pretending some SF or fantasy is real in a game or book or movie?

Also Arthur C. Clarke laws are not in any way against fantasy books or games - they just say how to create good SF.

And I don't think people who play fantasy games with magic think magic is real like people who play SF games don't think there is sound in space or aliens on Mars.

It looks like you want to grasp at anything to feel superior to others and that makes you look like a douche.

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You're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?

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Nah. I just think we should point out someone who say things like douche while also running around and screaming: Look at me I defeated communism and I'm a philanthropist! Look at me!

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Again, bullying & calling names. πŸ‘Ž

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It is a shame that you can't read with understanding what you are writing everywhere to see what kind of person you are and how people see you.

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Again, you're the one "calling names". Again! πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

But it shows what kind of person you are. πŸ‘Ž

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Hang on a second.

Are you suggesting that fans of Harry Potter and LOTR must believe that magic is real, and that's why they're fans? Not just because they enjoy the series as works of fiction?!

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We're all capable of magic, we're just out of mana :(

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He just made Sam cry, that went way too far for me.

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i have a response from Bilbo

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I personally don't need more than 1.000 blacklist slots, but I also don't care if more were available.

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I won a game from you and couldn't thank you 'cause you blacklisted me right after I won. So, just wanted to say thank you for the game. I hate not thanking the giveaway creator.

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You're W/G ratio is bad. Improve in giveaways.

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Well, I look at the contribution value.
If you looked at my real contribution value, you will see that I gave more in giveaways than what I won.
I guess it's just a matter of how you look at it. Like there are members who giveaway more games but mostly no value games or really low value games.
I can giveaway more games but I really tend to care about the quality of the games.
Anyway, thank you for your input and have a good day.

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Threads like this are the reason i avoid the discussion section, now i am only browsing the deals, what happened to this place? It;s sad.

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A perfect solution could be creating a new section for discussions, "Blacklist recruitment" - we've already got "Whitelist recruitment", so why not. It would be easier to ignore threads that OPs use to farm blacklists then (yes, I do believe that threads like this are generally created in search of negative attention, and being blacklisted is obviously a form of receiving such attention).

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This thread is hilarious. Though I fear I might be blacklisted for saying so...

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Too much text. Next thread, please! :)

(I won't feed more this one)

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ive been blacklisted by 2 people for no reason i can see. im a member in good standing for a while. lvl 3 so cleary no bot or scripter. pretty bs if im honest

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People can blacklist you for any reason.

See if any of the reasons below fit you.

https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/pxlgT/reasons-for-blacklist

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no 26. Because "yes.. just Because.. cause there are no reason"

this seems to sum up the whole concept tbh... pretty petty. but hey guess i better stfu or risk getting blacklisted right?

I can fully understand some of those, but quite a few seem abritrary

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For me, just being on the site can get you blacklisted so its kind of a badge of honour. I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

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When I did military service, they told me that if I did not suffer an arrest, "you have not done military service or done anything."

The same thing happens with steamgifts, if you are not in BL I don't know where you are, but of course you are not in Steamgifts.

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i would rather have a 2000 max whitelist

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Perhaps some of the people have surpassed your standards in the recent years since you BL'd them. That'd be very hard to check. But forgiveness could be a possible route for you.

An easier route is to look for people who haven't logged in for over a year and remove them to make room for new additions. If people aren't using the site anymore, no need to keep them on your BL.

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Sure, if the people start giving away more here to have W/G < 1.
& if they keep to be polite to other persons here in discussions.

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Who cares about leechers like that? Everyone should have a ratio of <0.25 or get banned.

How about you become a role model and be the first polite person here then? Have you ever tried being polite instead of silly trolling? I'm sure it would make you feel all warm and fuzzy.

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I would prefer larger whitelist.

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I think you need to revisit what a blacklist is really for...whatever your 'standards' may be
Still I voted 'YES' because why not. Lets see how quickly a 10,000 limit can be reached...then we can vote again.

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Omg, i was exhausted after i added 2 people in BL and stopped it and people have 1000 spots filled? This is ridiculous.

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Omg, i was exhausted after i added 2 people in BL

The blacklisting itself isn't really a lot of work but what I find annoying is the Blacklist documentation because people just have to ask why they are blacklisted and bring their drama into threads that have nothing to do with it.

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Yeah, I agree. It hasn't happened to me for a while because I haven't done events since my Candy from Strangers calendar but that's why I usually give them the choice, they can have an answer if they insist but only in public and not in a private conversation 😈

Maybe it's a little bit petty but I'm hoping over time I can teach a few to let it go and simply move on when they see they are blacklisted.

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