there will only be a significant drop in gifting HIBs and Dirt. Any other gifter will stay here, so there will probbably be a boost in gifts, once this is done:) i'm sure, there are some people, holding gifts, before this chaotic situation is solved.
And that's a good idea to somehow ignore those free and ubercheap things (like HIB) during the registration.
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Then the rules come:
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you are asking for foreigners to fuck off and want english people only, that it's self is being racist.
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I don't mean English people only. I mean use English in your threads and comments. Those are not the same things:)
Also i suggested (not in this topic) making separate threads for those, who want to speak in their own language. That was not supported, though. And that's nothing good to mix different languages in one thread.
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An English only enforcement isn't "asking for foreigners to fuck off". He's referring the language to communicate in on this website.
A requirement to speak English on a site that mostly speaks English isn't racist at all. People are flinging that word without knowing that it means.
A racism is believing that traits and capabilities vary with race. Note: race, not nationality or native language.
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it's impossible to make every user to be welcome in this community. It should be an elite community, no matter, how I look at it. Well, that's my opinion.
If it's not elite, it gets exploited and fades.
And i don't tell, every user must have lots of comments. I just suggest to make a small userbase and start it all from the very beginning. There was no userbase in the initial start of this site, so that was a problem. Administration had no idea, whom were they inviting in the first place. And there certainly were scammers in the first wave.
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The thing about having 100+ comments is that it's going to encourage spamming.
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Oh okay. I was just doing the math and I can see how people could grief this process. If A gets invited, then invites B. B could get A and B blocked. Then C joins, brings back A and A brings B. Now B gets C and A blocked, but they are in on this. D finds a way on. Let this continue for a while. Now Z gets invited and Z invites B directly. Now when B gets blocked, Z and 25 people up the chain suddenly get blocked. Account B is a block bomb that multi-accounts can bring back to get lots of people blocked whenever they want to.
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Oh okay. Well, I'm just saying that such intense handing out of bans with people not even involved getting banned as well is just a bad idea. If the person that invited me decides to start being an ass and gets banned a bunch I shouldn't get banned too. I'm sorry I got invited by a jerk? T_T
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-_- Site records IP, that's standard.
The FAQ clearly states that multiple accounts is a bannable offense already. People have been banned for this already.
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Really poor work using IP as the only way to determine if someone is using multiple accounts. It leads to very common false positives when you have people who have to share an internet connection, such as those who live in a college dorm or an apartment complex.
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Well, ok. So let's say a Russian user who came to this site after the latest wave of invites, doesn't know English very well or can't write in English because he doesn't have a keyboard (I know you can change the keyboard layout, but let's assume, for the sake of argument, that he doesn't know this feature :P). He can't thank anyone because if he does he gets constant bombardment by people saying this is an English speaking site, etc, but he copy pastes a couple of "thank you"s from other people's messages. However, his giveaways entered are greater than comments. You are saying this person should be excluded from the site; why? well, because you don't... what? want him here? don't feel he is active (what good would that do anyway, you don't want his Russian writings)?
Also as a side note, I just looked up on your profile mate, and based on your comments>giveaways category, you yourself are supposed to be taken away... "What i suggest, is take everyone with at least one gift given and at least 70% recieved (DM MP, Eets, any HIB, Shotguns and Dirt3 don't count in as a giveaway. sorry for those, worth good money) then take everyone with number of comments > number of entries (as of now, so people don't start commenting asap since now) and block all other accounts, then make really cheap invites for one week (1 point, maybe?)"
mawile
Steam ProfileClick here
Registered1 month ago
Giveaways Entered241
Gifts Won2
Comments211
taking away the 12 comments you made on this post(and not including the post itself), that is 199 comments versus 241 entries...
don't get me wrong, I realize you have made some fairly good giveaways and have 100% received feedback, but your system says, take these people with at least one giveaway and 70% received feedback then select the ones that have comments>entries... so based on your own proposed system, you would not be here... ;) I do not understand why you would be asking for something like this in the first place? I realize the recent influx of members brought in some bad apples, but that is no reason to start discriminating between users...
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What i meant is first take all the gifters, without checking their comments/entries, then take all non gifters and check their comments/entries>1. if a user is not in any (it might not be in both) of those two groups, his account is blocked.
Being a gifter is active enough. Sorry, if I confused you.
Also every Russian user knows, how to switch to Latin, because we have to use those letters sometimes:) Not to tell, most of Steam games have no Russian translation, so we mostly play English games and have to enter our nicknames in English in most of the games.
oh, and I'm Russian, so Russian writings are OK for me:) they are just not OK for many people:)
Also I don't suggest to take away all the other people, I suggest to just make a small userbase, that might have got some friends around the site and might return those, whom they believe.
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yeah, that is not what you were saying earlier :) before, it sounded like you wanted to take the gifters, eliminate all none gifters, then check if comments>entries, eliminate those that are not... anyway, regardless it would still be unfair for two reasons... firstly, not everyone has to gift something, and secondly, not everyone feels it necessary to say "thank you" on every giveaway they enter (though I personally feel different)... also, is saying thank you on every giveaway and accumulating at least comments=entries and then posting a few comments in forums really considered being active? Just food for thought... :)
Oh, and I know you are Russian; I have been following quite a few of your posts the last couple of days in forums ;)
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I don't state all those passive people are not welcome (though, there is a rule: be active). The problem is, they are all under suspicion, cause scammers are mostly the same. There is no good way to differ those. So i suggest to block them and invite again only those, who seems to be truthworthy...
Also if there is an easy way to divide forum postcount and giveaway thankscount, that would be nice, but i'm not sure, if that's easy enough.
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I think you meant scammers and not scummers, though it could be argued that scammers are scum :D
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you may write Russian, I can hardly understand your previous comment...
then comes a brief translation of my previous points
напиши по русски, я не очень понял твой предыдущий коммент...
И ещё раз, если ты купил отданные тобой HIBы за цент, не жди особой благодарности от местного сообщества. Потому что администраторы HIB отстёгивают примерно по пол доллара пэйпалу за каждую покупку, т.ч. каждая одноцентовая покупка (а таких было не мало) лишала детей пол доллара благотворительности, которую им отправили другие порядочные покупатели. И даже если бы ты тысячу баксов пожертвовал, чтобы тут подарить эти HIBы, врятли тебе поверят. именно поэтому раздачи HIB'а вообще не котируются.
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Да, я понимаю. Но сам факт того что то русское быдло которые тут делает фейкораздачи, все эти комментарии аля "СПАСИБО))))))))))))))))!!!!" или "ОТДАЙ ИГРУ ПЛИИЗЗЗ ОЧ ДАВНО ХАТЕЛ!" (Вот лично видел это). Никогда, НИКОГДА, в жизни не отдадут даже сраный цент, что бы раздать на этом сайте. Мне они достались совершенно бесплатно, раздал пару друзьям, и все что осталось тут. Как только появится свободный гифт, а он вскоре появится отдам здесь. Глупо это звучало, да, но все же.
А про хиб интересно, спасибо. Еще раз извините за мой английский язык, лол.
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Translated:
all those *** Russians making fake giveaways, thanking and even begging in Russian will never giveaway even a cent. I got those HIBs for free, gave a couple of those to friends and the rest in here. As soon as I get some extra gift, I'll give it away here.
Sorry for my English.
If this wipe ever happens (though, it seems, it won't happen, anyway) you may count on me:)
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Actually I understood what you were saying ^^ weird, huh? :) don't apologize for your English; you are not a native speaker and no one should expect you to have a very good grasp of the English language. Instead, you should concentrate on improving your knowledge as best as you can while also having fun- personally I think games are one of the best ways of achieving this :)
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I don't really care about English only. The only problem I have with some of the recent Russian/Eastern European giveaways is that the winner cannot activate them because of region lock. I would simply suggest that the giveaway creator do more research to make sure their product is able to be played in any region. All that don't meet that criteria should be deleted, and have a mod warning/alert sent to them. This applies to USA, Europe, Asia and wherever else.
With all the talk about seclusion and private giveaways and what not, making public giveaways that can only be activated by people in a certain region is the exact same thing.
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That's a little too strict
"English only" - I don't really support this idea
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International website, international language. Don't be like that, seriously.
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U.S site = English language, which is of course logic. International language? there's no such thing. Well, maybe in the middle earth
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I don't think a user, registerd a month ago may be considered new, since this site is online for just two months.
btw, how did you got invited here? Won't you be able to get through the same way?
Have you been active here? Have you found any friends around?
Who's that, you call unfriendly and why do you think so?
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Yes, I linked my account a month ago, but it doesn't mean I actually could enter this site at once. I'm here for about three days. See I was searching for an invite for a month just after linking. I have no friends here, I'm speaking my mind when I have to say something only and trying to help anyone if it is possible for me. And now I see this thread with you wanting me out. I know that you're not an admin or mod here, but come on people chill a bit.
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Yeah, with everyone gifting Dirt 3 (made a lot points for everyone) and me sitting home all these days it really was possible (I'm applying for a job now and waiting for test results). Making friends here is a bit hard, I can't even manage replies to my comments on this forum =)
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No I'm well versed in the explosion of Russian new-comers and the subsequent rudeness of some of them as well as the scammers and fake giveaway makers. It's just that fostering this kind of elitism isn't good for the community, we're ALREADY invite only (as I think it should stay). Making the invites cost more, as they have done, will help to curb mass invites of people who don't belong but really the people who made this site are doing a good job in making sure the community is accessible for new comers and grows at a steady pace without people getting a big head about it.
And thanks~ I plan on it B)
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It really is. The behaviour showcased in this site is an attests to how people behave when given access to free stuff.
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I believe some of the ideas you posted above are useful and some others are salvagable.
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While some Eastern Europeans have shady access to keys or whatnot, you can't rule out their participation in the site. There are many very kindhearted members here, and scaring them away means less games for everyone. What needs to be worked on is a crackdown on illegitimate games, not on languages. On that note, it might be an idea to have separate boards on the forums, enabling a Russian Only board as well, to centralize discussions.
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About the "inviting random people" thing:
I myself joined sg only today, and I got an invite after talking briefly with Ellendi and asking her for one (she didn't have invites, but went on and asked another user for one). My point is, I may have made a good impression on Ellendi, and she probably got me an invite for that, but I consider myself a "random guy" who just talked to her a little; yet I am actually able and willing to be polite and host giveaways when the paycheck comes.
I think it's a fine line and any action on the "who are we going to invite" front should be considered carefully.
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"no fakes or scamming "
yea try to teach this the internet, if you have succsess I'm pretty sure you get the nobel price
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I do not really like the being blocked if some one you invited was being stupid. Yeah I understand the point of it but still. You can only trust some one so much and if they act stupid and get them self ban just ban them. Now if they lets say invite 5 or more people in a X amount of months who get banned then yes ban the person who sent them the code because its obvious they are either trading/selling them or not giving them to friends.
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How about making rules a little strictier?...
What i suggest, is take everyone with at least one gift given and at least 70% recieved (DM MP, Eets, any HIB, Shotguns and Dirt3 don't count in as a giveaway. sorry for those, worth good money) add to them everyone with number of comments > number of entries (as of now, so people don't start commenting asap since now) and block all other accounts, then make really cheap invites for one week (1 point, maybe?)
Those, who were active enough, will get invited back, those, who were not, broke the rule of being active and deserve to be banned >:D
Also, you should be sure, you are inviting some one nice. once the guy, you invited, breaks even a small rule, he is banned and you are banned. Well, if he was nice during a month, you are not responsible for him anymore after that period of time.
When the site first oppened, you could harldy guess, whom to invite. there were just a couple of users. So you had to invite everyone, who is fast enough. I was one of those accidental guests. But now there are enough people, happy to give for the community, not only get from it. So they might make a good base for a new, better community.
Then the rules come:
Breaking one of the first 3 rules, leads to your account being blocked.
Breaking one of the last 3 leads to your account(s) being banned forever and your inviter's account and everyone you have invited being blocked.
Blocked accounts are not really deleted, so if it was an accident, you can be invited back, you just need to be a good user, so someone will take you back even after you being blocked.
If your account gets blocked two times already (for any reason), on the third block all your inviters also get blocked.
I really want the community to be clean, and it is not clean already, so making expensive invites will hardly help it.
Current community really pisses off many gifters, including myself, so there won't be any gifts sooner or later...
What do you think about that?...
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