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"Humble’s game subscription service Humble Monthly will soon relaunch with a higher price as Humble Choice. Rather than giving a fixed bag of games (usually 8) for $12/month, each month Humble Choice have a choice of 10 games and let you pick some to keep. You’ll get 3 on the Choice Basic tier for $15/month, or 9 for $20/month on Choice Premium."

TechRaptor Article

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There was a huge (closed) thread about it here, catch up on 500 replies :)
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/YXaeg/humble-monthly-becoming-humble-choice

1 month ago
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OP of that thread gave an explanation here, but unfortunately I do not know what the shortcut 'CK3' is supposed to stand for.. (?).

1 month ago
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Crusader Kings 3.

1 month ago
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I just took a look at his profile and found this post of him about that game and wanted to edit my answer the second you wrote that :D

1 month ago
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There is a thread already.

Edit: didnt know it closed.

Just a reminder. Those who stay subscribed will have a classic sub for 12 dollar/month and get 10 games.
If you cancel you cant get classic status back.

1 month ago*
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Does pausing a month count as cancelling?

3 weeks ago
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No, you are free to pause a month. Im note sure if they will change it so you cant pause how many times in a row you want. But I guess we will see when they make the changes to Humble Choice.

3 weeks ago
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No. You can pause as many times as you like. But you will have to re-pause it every month.

3 weeks ago
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Until IGN will change its mind

3 weeks ago
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The decision is bad and not user friendly, but nothing will happen despite the negative outrage here and the reason is simple: People will buy it. They will spend their money on these tiers or sub to the old monthly system now in rush (bc that's what they want) and keep subed. The masses got all their power on their side to change it.

1 month ago
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Personally I dont think this is a problem unless they make it so you cant pause how many times you want in a row.

And to be fair, you get more games if you are classic. And I belive you can actually see all the games you will get even if you are classic, so if you dont like, you can just pause it.

1 month ago
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  1. They could have simply dropped the $12/month option entirely and only honored those who paid in advance. Instead they decided to grandfather in current subscribers at a lower price as long as they stay subscribed.
  2. They provided an option for those who don't want all the games, or those who only want the Trove.
  3. They added more games to the higher tiers
  4. They're revealing all the games instead of only one or two. This is kinda big.
  5. You can still pause whenever you like.

Honestly, I don't get the outrage.

1 month ago
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I agree 101%

1 month ago
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You said everything I was thinking.

Personally, the change to seeing all the games ahead of time is a huge plus, since now you'll know whether the bundle is worth it to you before buying anything. Previously, you had to decide entirely upon the headlining games, and hope that the unlocks were good if you decided to buy or nothing interesting if you decided to skip.

1 month ago
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I'm going to be honest, I'm not very happy with this personally, mostly because I think businesses should retain clients with good service and not by twisting their arms with fake "discounts" (the "classic plan is really nothing but the old plan except now there's a bit of blackmail that goes with it)

I think most of the outrage though, is linked to the problem Humble was most likely trying to fix with this; people keep subbing and unsubbing. They sub for 3 months when there's a special offer, then they don't renew or forget; or they use alt accounts and get some money back from referrals, or "new subscribers" offers.
Now they can't do that anymore or they'll get a 7 buck charge and one less game.

Honestly I would have preferred they really gave us a choice, like a pick and mix monthly where you pick X games, after they are revealed and you pay for those games. That would have been a better way to go about it, imo but that wouldn't have worked for Humble because they prefer people paying for games they don't want.

1 month ago
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not by twisting their arms with fake "discounts"

First paragraph.

I think most of the outrage though, is linked to the problem ...

I tend to disagree. I believe they're likely doing this because (a) fewer developers are wanting their good games in bundles, so Humble has to pay more to get them and (b) better quality games may lead to an increase in subscribers. We have no way of knowing for sure, but they've stated they're looking to get more quality games in the Monthly (article linked in OP). Otherwise, they'd be selling a weekly bundle at a premium. If they wanted to "lock" subscribers in and make them buy games they don't want, the simplest way would be to disable the pause function.

Honestly I would have preferred they really gave us a choice, like a pick and mix monthly where you pick X games, after they are revealed and you pay for those games.

Aren't they? The 3 games/$15 tier is exactly that, as far as I know. Granted, we're seeing a lot of complaining about the $15 price tag, but let's face it - most people are going to shoot for the high-ticket items (even if they really want the lower priced games, because they can trade one AAA game for two or more lower priced games), so the price can't be too low. Of course, that depends on the quality of the games they're offering, which we've yet to see.

And ... well yeah ... everyone would love a true pick-and-mix, but again, most people would immediately shoot for the high-ticket items to sell/trade for multiple other lower priced items they'd want. That would end up not being very cost-effective from Humble's side.

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I tend to disagree. I believe they're likely doing this because (a) fewer developers are wanting their good games in bundles, so Humble has to pay more to get them and (b) better quality games may lead to an increase in subscribers.

I think that's also definitely an issue they've been having but the grey market is also probably behind a lot of the devs reticence in having their games in the bundle and I don't think Choice is going to curb that. I really do hope the quality of the games is better, and honestly with the 19 bucks price tag, they'll have to be or they're doomed.

If they wanted to "lock" subscribers in and make them buy games they don't want, the simplest way would be to disable the pause function.

I'm pretty sure that's coming next but we'll see.

Aren't they? The 3 games/$15 tier is exactly that, as far as I know. Granted, we're seeing a lot of complaining about the $15 price tag, but let's face it - most people are going to shoot for the high-ticket items

Well not if you want to keep your classic plan. Or at least that's how I understand it.

I am keeping my fingers crossed because I am not a hater and I want them to be doing well and going back to the level Humble once had. I just don't know if it's feasible anymore but I am rooting for it.

1 month ago
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I was at first skeptical about these changes as the main thing that jumps at you is that humble monthly went from 12$ to become humble choice for 20$.

Much further into the details, it explained the grandfather feature and that one could theoretically keep classic price forever and things look fine.

Hopefully, the 20$ change also improves the quality of the games.Currently, we have 1-3 headliners with the later reveals to be usually lower in value, one would hope this changes as the price for the public pratically doubles. Otherwise, I don't see new ppl buying in at 20$ a month.

4 weeks ago
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I don't get the outrage either, this could even be better for everyone in the long run.

I was growing tired of seeing only a few games and then waiting until the rest got revealed on the first Friday of the next month. I never once paused because I was always afraid of missing out, now I don't need to worry about that. If I don't have much interest in the games on offer that month, I can stay paused without worrying about missing out.

Honestly, it sounds like a better deal for all, I'm not sure why people are so outraged. I don't want to be too judgy of people, but this seems to be outrage for the sake of outrage, like people are afraid of change or something.

2 weeks ago
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For subscribers it'll not change anything because of "classic subscription" as it goes for new subscribers it's change for worse but it was asked. Many people wanted to know what they get and have right to choose or pay less so they are able to do so.

1 month ago
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Humble Bundle has (had?) over 500,000 monthly subscribers. So it will be a big financial risk if this move backfires on them.

1 month ago
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If anything this change will only increase their profits. There is no way this move backfires them because of a bussiness prespective its much more profitable than the previous plan.

1 month ago
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true and as long as u can pause months with the new plan it is also better for us tbh

1 month ago
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Yeah pause button makes everything way too good for us that buy the monthly for the most part. You will be able to keep the classic status no matter what so its a win win situation.

1 month ago
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There is no way this move backfires

It's only more profitable to them for new subscribers, those that are grand-fathered in pay the same amount. That said, of course this can backfire if this move causes less people to subscribe overall.
It's not like they are selling some basic human necessity.... xD

4 weeks ago
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Any source on that number? The latest article I can find says they only have over 400,000
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/339859/Humble_Monthly_now_has_over_400000_subscribers.php

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Ask and ye shall receive
(First paragraph)

1 month ago
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Wow, that means they added 100k new subscribers in just half a year 0_0

1 month ago
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It will backfire.

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classic sales technique.

Well, you really have three options:
A - $$
B - $$$
C - $$$$$$$
Which do you prefer? finger pointing to B

1 month ago
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I'm not sure how you figure that.

Looking at the new choices, people can cherry pick the more expensive AAA titles and get 3 for $15, or they can get everything including the smaller indie games and get 9 for $20. But you can see the games up front, so you can decide if you want to spend the extra $5 on the other 6 games.

If you're a subscriber, then you stay at $12 a month and go from 6-8 games to 10 games where you know all the games up front.

1 month ago
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It's a classic sales technique to offer different options at different prices, to change the question from "will you buy?" to "which will you buy?"

1 month ago
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Well, that's no different from the previous Humble Monthly, with different prices for 1 month, 3 month, 12 month subscriptions. But I understand what you're saying now. :)

1 month ago
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Of course the one that has the usual "most popular" banner.

1 week ago
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Sure, the price is going up. But, by revealing all the games before purchase, it's probably going to mean I buy a months Humble Choice more often than I bought the Humble Monthly. I always based my purchase decision around assuming that the hidden games would be games I didn't like.

1 month ago
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That was my exact approach too. I would only ever buy a Monthly based on the strength of the revealed game(s), and considered everything else a bonus. Some months I had a great bonus with a few games from my wishlist, and other months the unlocks had nothing of interest and went up on SG.

While it removes the excitement and joy of finding that the unlocks are favorable, I much prefer knowing the games up front.

1 month ago
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Yeah I agree on that. I've been pausing for months, literally because of unappealing/owned earlies and I missed a few games I would have liked but I'm going to be honest, if they had revealed the whole bundle right away, I would have still be pausing so it doesn't change much for me.

Now I'll wait and see how long they go before they announce you can't pause anymore. My money is on June. Or at least about 5-6 months into the Humble Choice launch, when they realize that they're not making their quotas.

1 month ago
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I was subscribing and unsubscribing every month. No risk of forgetting to pause.

I wonder how long before Humble cancels the classic subscription, or just ups the price, because there are too many people on it compared to those buying the other options.

1 month ago
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Yeah I don't buy the "it'll stay like that forever" routine. They want to avoid massive cancellations when Choice launches but I am pretty sure they will either cancel the classic, or change it, or make it impossible to pause it.

1 month ago
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Yea I agree as well. When a company makes a move like this it typically does not favor the consumer.

As it is right now it seems a good change for everyone who already is subscribed but like you said that can change.

4 weeks ago
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In a press release, Humble said that the reason behind the changes coming are due to upcoming investments in games for Humble. Slated to begin in 2020, Humble plans to "massively increase what [they] spend to get great games." Additionally, Humble wants to give subscribers more choice over the games they receive in the monthly drop, as well as diversify the selection available. In essence, this makes Humble Monthly more of a curated list, rather than a collection of games you'll get every month, quality or no. This means you have more knowledge of what you are buying, and the investment could mean a better selection of games consistently.

Interesting excerpt from the TechRaptor article. If it's true, it appears as though the quality of the bundle may be going up along with the price for new subscribers.

1 month ago
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Thats some really good news, i am waiting patiently to see when this new change will drop.

1 month ago
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Interesting. I hope they don't mean they're going to get more Humble Originals because I'm a big no on that lol but if they do increase the quality, let's see. Waiting for the first bundle to make my decision.

I think they are playing with words though because it's not a curated list if you have to stay subscribed and get all 10 games every month to keep the old price. It would be if you could pick a different tier every month.

1 month ago
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I will reserve judgment until we see what really happens. I am always skeptical, like when a food product is "new and improved" it usually means it tastes worse and is made with cheaper ingredients.

I imagine the thought of a half million keys potentially being out on the grey market scares away a lot of publishers. If we assume most HB buyers are honest people, given the choice of games they want might reduce the number of "unused" keys that wind up on reseller sites (and on SG).

And also when they start putting a handful of Epic Store games in each month, they can say "well, we're not forcing you to take those games, you must choose to take them!" :P

4 weeks ago
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True Humble is already selling Epic keys on their store.... =P

4 weeks ago
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Does anybody know exactly when this will happen? I might have to wait until December+ before I can get the bundle and want to get the classic plan.

1 month ago
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Nobody knows so if you got this bundle just pause if you dont want to spend anything until this new plan gets released.

1 month ago
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i would be an active or paused sub before the end of this monthly.

1 month ago
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My understanding is that you only have a few days to subscribe before the change. After that, Classic will no longer be an option. Someone from the other thread said that you could subscribe and immediately pause so you don't get charged for this month's bundle.

1 month ago
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To be fair it's what, two months left? It's one or the other considering they're implementing the change this year.

4 weeks ago
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Number of humble monthly bought: 0
Number of humble choice bought: 0 (estimated)

1 month ago
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same here

1 month ago
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there's something bothering me. The Premium price is $20 for 9 games. Let's say Humble takes 10%. Humble won't take a loss on any bundle, that's just bad business. They have transaction costs that they can't avoid, such as credit card fees. If HB only takes 10% off the premium, it means they're not making any profit there, just breaking even, and instead they're making their profit off the Basic tier. Possible, but not plausible, so this really is a best-case scenario
That means the other games are being sold for an average of $2.
Now think of the deepest sales you've seen during steam, fanatical, GMG, etc. sales. Can you imagine the games you want going for $2 on sale?
I expect that HB will probably balance it out, like they do already -> one or two more expensive games, and the rest will be filler

1 month ago
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It's kind of the same as now, 12$ shared between potentially 6-8 devs/publishers and humble. It's a hefty discount even for a 8$ game, if they get like 1.4$ / copy.
fast edit: I mean it's still sounds like a bit more money for devs, but still very, very cheap games.

1 month ago
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My concern is, in the past I always assumed the bulk of the money (1/3 to 1/2) went to the early unlocks, and the rest got paid peanuts. I can't see how that would work as well with no unknown games to be revealed later.

If I didn't buy the monthly, and there are interesting early unlocks, I might chase a trade, but I doubt there are more than 2-3 bundles since Monthly started, where I'd go "yeah, these three games are worth paying $14"

1 month ago
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paying $14

Canada?

1 month ago
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the new price is going to be $14

1 month ago
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Sorry for being slow, but new-new price? Old-new was 15, old-old (current) is 12 and I'm losing track

1 month ago
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Let's not confuse the old-old-new and the old-new-old with the new-old-new or the old-old-old.

1 month ago
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Most every Monthly has had the early unlocks worth the $12 price alone - it was always an all time low price for the early unlocks. Just look a this month's bundle - the historical low for COD WW2 is $11, for Crash is $24, and for Spyro is $40. For October, Battletech + Flashpoint + Sonic Mania would be $19.23 together at their all time low pricing, so picking up all three for $12 is a pretty good deal. Slay the Spire from September has an all time low price of $10 by itself (and is easily worth $12 alone, it's go good!).

Here, you can see the games early, so you can decide if it's worth paying $15 for 3 games, or $20 for 9.

And if you're talking just about the remaining 6 games - 6 games for $5 sounds like... a normal bundle you'd expect from Humble of Fanatical.

1 month ago
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oh, I'm not saying it isn't good value, but I only ever bought the bundle if I liked the early unlock enough, and the later reveals were (almost?) never enticing enough that they would have changed my mind had I not bought that month

1 month ago
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I use the exact same approach, but I remember at least one month that I skipped but would have bought had I known what was in the unlocks.

1 month ago
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This, i cant remember a month that the early unlock wasnt worth it by itself the price of the bundle. Plus with so many games as mysteries you could always find some games to justify the price.

1 month ago
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You're not factoring the money they make on DLC.
If they put a lot of games in the bundle that go deep on DLC, and if only 10% of subscribers buy the DLC after they get the game, that's a lot of money made. That's the whole reason why they still have a discount included in the bundle.

1 month ago
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that's a different matter altogether. But yeah, it's why Paradox games all end up on Humble Bundles

1 month ago
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Yeah and why they also like Ubisoft games in their bundles. Not shocked to see CoD in the next bundle either.

1 month ago
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I like the idea of picking 10 games each month for 12$.

1 month ago
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You dont get to pick 10 games. Depending on what kind of subscriber you are you have 10 games to choose from. The classic subscriber will get all 10.

1 month ago
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Ah ok so it will still be better than 7-8 games for 12$ for classic subscribers but it will be worse for the new ones I gues?

1 month ago
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most months, the monthly bundles had 9 or 10 games in them. It was quite rare that it had only 8.
The main difference for the classic subs is that we'll see all the games right away at the beginning of the month and then decide to pause or not based on the full knowledge of the bundle instead of just the early unlock

1 month ago
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most months, the monthly bundles had 9 or 10 games in them

March 2019 - 8 games and a buttload of DLC for one of them
April 2019 - 8 games.
May 2019 - 8 games
June 2019 - 6 games + 1 DLC (this includes the non-Steam COD game)
July 2019 - 7 games
August 2019 - 7 games (and 2 DLC included with one of the game keys)
September 2019 - 7 games
October 2019 - 7 games + 2 DLC

1 month ago
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Damn, the last 6 months of bundles have been terrible. I wonder if they progressive lower overall value and number of games going down was to make Choice look like a better option or if they really had trouble getting games.

I'll go to 2018 to see if they had more games than 8 but I think you're right, 8 is pretty much the usual, before they started to hit rock bottom this year.

1 month ago
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I imagine they won't have problems padding out bundles to reach ten games. Whether those will be GOOD games or not remains to be seen, though. Only thing that really matters is they have three decent ones.

4 weeks ago
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Full knowledge of the bundle will be a great way to decide if I should pause or not :)

1 month ago
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It may not be as bad as people are speculating. If what the article says holds true, the quality of the games will be going up. Obviously we won't know that for sure until the first bundle drops (and I never hold my breath over such things), but we do already know we're getting more games in the bundle.

I feel all this "the sky is falling" by some people is a bit premature, but par for the course around here. We've been spoiled for so long by cheap bundles that people have a tendency to overlook the quality for the price tag.

1 month ago
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+1

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I figured, it's tough to keep getting great games at such a low price, and eventually they'd have to raise their prices eventually. But that's a pretty big increase.
I like the idea of the tiers, because, honestly, there are very few bundles since monthly started where I'd want all the games - most of the time there are only 2-3 I'm interested in. Just that the new lesser tier is more than the old bundle cost.

Yeah, I hope the quality of the games will be going up, but I don't think it'll be noticeable. If a AAA* game gets included because of the new price when it's 4 years old rather than 5 years old, the optics to the buyer is still the same - an old AAA game got included!

*I was gonna give an example, but it doesn't matter. It's like waiting for a sale: while there is a monetary difference between 75% or 80% off, neither is shocking these days

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I'm under the impression that the only reason they're even offering the classic option is to prevent the inevitable wildfire caused by the auto-charge going from $12 to $20, and due to people who paid for months in advance. If it weren't for those two things, we'd all be paying $20 monthly,

Really, though, I've always felt $12 was a "too good to be true" kind of deal (probably why I always get it), and, looking at next month's unlocks alone, $20 doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me. If the quality only goes up a little, it's still a bonus to me. And we're getting a couple more games on top of it. At $12 (as a current subscriber), I'm tickled pink.

1 month ago
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Yeah, Humble Monthly really did seem too good to be true, and too good to last.

Just looking at the all time low prices for September's bundle, there's Slay the Spire ($10), Guacamelee 2 ($8), State of Mind ($8), Distance ($7-10), God's Trigger ($6), and Mothergunship ($6), and the headliner Squad ($20). Getting any three of them for $15 would still beat their all time low prices, and getting all of them for $20 would still be a great deal if there's 4+ games there that interest you.

I agree that the reason the Classic Plan is even a thing is to appease current subscribers by not foisting a price increase on them, and yet people are complaining that now they feel they need to be subscribed. There could instead be no Classic Plan and the only option would be $20 a month. Is that better?

1 month ago
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I dont know about the rest but God's trigger is easily worth the full price it has. Such an underrated gem.

1 month ago
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Good to hear. I haven't played it yet, Slay the Spire has been monopolizing all my free time.

1 month ago
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If you find some spare time you should give it a try, its so good that i have to admit that i like it more than hotline miami.

1 month ago
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Thanks. I like that it has a co-op option, that could potentially be really fun.

And while I liked Hotline Miami (it had great style), I never went crazy for it the way that most others did. I think I got about 2/3 or 3/4 through the game before it got too hard and I moved on to something else.

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Yeah the main issue with HM was that after some parts it was really unfair. Thats why i prefer God's trigger as every death is your fault and not by some cheap death mechanics.
Coop is a great fun especially with all those abilities that can create some interesting situations.

1 month ago
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I think the main issue is that there's no way to get all 10 games, no matter how much you spend, unless you stay subscribed with the classic plan.

1 month ago
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The value has always been there. I simply based my decision on "is the early unlock(s) worth $12?", and considered the rest of the games a bonus.

I totally agree with your rationale for the classic option; I wonder how long they'll keep it?

1 month ago
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People tend to a state of comfort and/or predictability, which is why they usually resist (any kind of) change. And not just here or about this, it's pretty usual in multiple instances of our everyday lives. Add to that some ambiguity/uncertainty in the FAQ and the Internet's usual attitude that you mentioned (exemplified here by the classic "Blame IGN"), and an expectable resistance towards the new model arises. In a few months time, normality will likely have settled in.

Fact is, HB has consistently been the best value around, bundle-wise, and indeed it wouldn't be in their interest to change that status. If anything, I'd say this new strategy will increase both their sway with developer partners and their total funds raised... which might bode well for everyone. Time will tell.

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We've been spoiled for so long by cheap bundles that people have a tendency to overlook the quality for the price tag.

and how much devs are getting screwed over, between what they get for their games in the bundle, and the resulting grey market.

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i still have plenty of unplayed games in my library, so this isn't a good value for me either. also seems weird to get to pick a number of games when the games probably sell for different prices. since i'm usually more interested in smaller / indie games my favorite 3 might total $30 in the store and then i'm better off waiting for a 75% off sale

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I just took a look at September's bundle, and the all time low price for the games ranges from $6.24 (Mothergunship) to $20 (Squad). Even if you ignore Squad, the prices are in the $6-10 range, with the cheapest 3 games adding up to $20.24.

So even at 3 indie games for $15, it's potentially a really good deal (25% off their all time low prices). And if you go for more expensive indie games, like Slay the Spire and Distance and Guacamelee 2, you're potentially getting an even better deal ($15 vs $28 at their all time low prices).

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You're right, but if we can pause, then it's worth the chance that there's a bigger game that you want that tips the value. That's all I've been subbed for anyways.

1 month ago
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They will just become another pick'n'mix bundle...

1 month ago
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Well that would be better than the model they are announcing, to me. Because the pick and mix thing, you get only the games you want.
With the new model, if you choose to exercize the "choice", you lose the classic plan price

1 month ago
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Yes, but for the ppl w/o "choice" it will be literally pick'n'mix.

4 weeks ago
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With a steep highest tier and no option for the classic plan people to pay less unless they want to lose their classic price.

4 weeks ago
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Will active subs be able to upgrade their classic sub to a longer duration? For instance, I am a monthly sub. Will I be able to upgrade to a yearly sub at the current yearly price after the change has come?

1 month ago
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I believe I read that if you're a current subscriber, you can re-subscribe for 12 months at $12 a month so long as your account stays active.

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Ah, thanks. Yes, I found

What if I am currently on a multi-month plan?

If you are currently a multi-month subscriber (3-month, 6-month, or 12-month plan) you will automatically get a multi-month Classic plan that matches your current choice. This means no action will need to be taken on your end to keep your multi-month plan, while also having access to the new plan! Once your multi-month plan renews, it will continue to be on the Classic plan as long as you do not cancel in between renewals.

How much will I pay under a Classic plan?

Under the Classic plan, you will retain the same price that you paid for Humble Monthly. This is broken down below:
Plan    Price Per Month     Total Price
Monthly     $12     $12
3-Month     $11.66  $35
6-Month     $11.16  $67
12-Month    $11     $132

and,
If you are already a subscriber you can update your subscription to whatever plan works best for you! You are able to make this change at any point before Humble Choice launches, and this article explains in detail how to update your subscription. You can edit your plan prior to Humble Choice launching
so perhaps when choice launches I will not be able to upgrade from my current tier to a higher tier.

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I'm a monthly subscriber too and that last paragraph makes me worry a little.
So we have to update to a multi month plan before the launch?

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I think if we want to, yes.

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Why? All it says that you will retain the same prices with classic.

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I also wonder if it is possible to downgrade one's sub if one is a multi-monthly sub when it comes time to renew, and if it is also possible to pause when it is time to renew (instead of renewing) a yearly.

IOW, are you forced to renew (or cancel) your yearly after you've used all 12 of your months? Can you pause a month before renewing the yearly?

Prices broken out into 12 month amounts:

Plan  |  Price | Per Month | Total Price after 12 months
Monthly     $12     $12  = $144
3-Month     $11.66  $35  = $139.92
6-Month     $11.16  $67  = $133.92
12-Month    $11     $132 = $132

As I see it, the 6-month is perhaps the best option--it is a significantly cheaper total vs the monthly, over the course of a year only costs ~$2 more than the yearly, and doesn't have quite as much "sticker shock" to your bank account at once.

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Yep. Looks like it's time to be asking those questions directly from HB before they launch because I feel they are remaining vague on things that should be covered in the FAQ. It's not as if ours was an unlikely situation.

As I see it, the 6-month is perhaps the best option--it is a significantly cheaper total vs the monthly, over the course of a year only costs ~$2 more than the yearly, and doesn't have quite as much "sticker shock" to your bank account at once.

Yeah that's pretty much why I never subbed for a multi-month option. Saving 11 bucks over a year isn't all that and I'd rather not pay in advance for things I don't know if I'll use. I've been pausing for month and I'd rather keep my money that give them advance treasury.

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Have you contacted them about it yet? :-)
Yes, that is a good point. I'd rather my money stay in my wallet or bank (and earn interest) vs being in HB's coffers.
If one can later upgrade the classic month-per-month plan to a classic multi-month plan at current multi-month prices without affecting one's options or status, that might be even better--give this a few months and see what it looks like before committing.

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I have and the only reply I got as of yet is an automated email saying that more information was coming about Choice.

3 weeks ago
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I see. Thank you for the information!

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I'm a bit worried of that too...

1 week ago
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I did, just to be safe. Not a yearly, but a 3- or 6-month plan seems right.

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So...instead of 8 for $12 it becomes 3 for $15? Wow! What a bargain!

1 month ago
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Instead of buying ~7 mystery games for $12 which you may or may not like, you get to pick 3 games for $15 or 9 games for $20.

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So...how is it better than any other existing bundle site like Fanatical when you can choose so many from a selection? Other than forcing you to participate every month whether you like the selection or not? Sounds like they took inspiration from the Columbia Record Club....lower prices than retail, but you MUST purchase so many each month...

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It's been better because of the games included, and they said that they're hoping to increase the quality of games in the bundles. It's been better because they've included AAA games and great indies. Just look at the upcoming month - $12 would be an all time low price for any of the three early unlock games.

Also, you don't need to participate every month. You can go month to month, either as a current subscriber (with pause) or as a new subscriber.

But you're right, it'll be much more like a normal bundle from Humble or Fanatical. You get to see the games included, and buy if you think they're worth it. I don't see why that's a bad thing.

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Just look at the upcoming month - $12 would be an all time low price for any of the three early unlock games.

Considering the decrease in quality and value of the games in the bundle in the past 6 months or so, I think the fact this great bundle on the month they announce Choice is probably not random. They want people to sub now to get the classic plan when Choice launches so they put their finest China forward in the earlies.

I really do hope the quality increases but I'm not holding my breath. I would much prefer a pick and mix model to the Choice model.
12 bucks for 10 games is a good deal if we get at least 6 good games. It's an amazing deal if we get 8 great games. But I'd rather be able to pay less and pick the games I want.

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Which decrease in quality was that? I missed it, and yet I also have all of said "past 6 months or so" of monthlies.

That said, choice is always better than hope and guesswork.

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Which decrease in quality was that? I missed it, and yet I also have all of said "past 6 months or so" of monthlies.

Well, to each their own, I guess, but the decrease in value, at least, is right there and unarguable.

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From 11€ for 8 games to 15€ for 3 games. Where is benefit :troll:
Or 9 games for 20€, really REALLY nice
I think they have something interestimg, oh no IGN, lets give MASSIVE price increase for less stuff, what a great trash.

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Looking at September's bundle, the all time low price for Squad is $20, so getting Squad + 2 other games is already worth $15. Even if you picked the three cheapest indie games, you're still looking at $15 vs $20 at their all time low prices. So clearly there's value even at the 3 game tier.

But, hey, if you're a current subscriber then the only change is that you go from 6-8 mystery games for $12 to 10 games that you know up front for $12 - that's 2-4 additional games per month and you get to know all the games up front. That's a pretty good benefit.

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Epic benefit, i rather would like to keep lower price and 8 games than 4€ more and 5 less games :3
I know games on rls? That not worth 4-8€ extra. No benefity just ooooverpriced bundle vs. now

1 month ago
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Well, in that case, subscribe, keep subscribed, and you'll keep the lower price and get 2-4 more games each month. :)

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Thats thing, i hate as they basically force me (us) to stay subbed.. and if not u will pay alot more. Also what new users? Why they should pay a ton more? 15€ for 3 games or 20€ for 9 games? All this from 11€? Not interested then
Everyone should get same, not like subscriber can pay 8€ less than new user, all i see here is greed of IGN, money money and fk customers. Really wish that NOBODY will buy single bundle later, really.
Still didnt find anything what is better here than actual Humble. I know all games on release? Not gonna pay 8€ extra for it :D i subscribe when i want, not when they force me

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I understand where you're coming from. The price for Humble Monthly is going to increase, but you get a few more games and you get to see the games ahead of time which avoids wasting your money on games you don't want. I think the trade off of seeing the games up front is worth it, that paying $15 to get 3 games you want ($5 per game wanted) or $20 to get 4+ games you want ($2.22-5 per game wanted) is better than the possibility of paying $12 to get 1 game you want and 5-7 games you don't ($12 per game wanted).

But I think the reality is that the $12 for 6-8 game price was just not sustainable, and the price was going to increase regardless. Again, I think the trade off of knowing what the games are up front is potentially worth the extra cost (you're at most paying $5 per game you want, rather than potentially paying $12 for just one game), but no one really likes a price increase.

As far as the Classic Plan, that's a special offer thrown out for existing subscribers to not upset current subscribers with a price increase. If you don't want to subscribe, I totally get it, just do it month to month if the bundle is worth it. Since you'll be able to see all the games up front, you'll be able to accurately judge if that month's bundle is worth the asking price, rather than rolling the dice and hoping with the current model. I personally think that's an improvement, since you avoid paying $12 and discovering that you don't want any of the unlocked games or skipping the bundle and then discovering that you wanted the unlocked games but now it's too late to buy the bundle.

4 weeks ago
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He knows. Squad from resellers is around $20 (or more) right now, and Sket is one of the largest resellers out there. But, I guess he needs any little thing to rail against lol.

1 week ago
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lets wait for the quality^^ i hope they increase it as they want to get more money.

1 month ago
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You can unpause and get the bundle after the new bundle has been revealed, you don't need to unpause before...right?
The only thing I'm still not sure about and that could make the whole thing from Positive to Negative for me.

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Every month the Humble Bundle customer needs to manually opt-in to pause if the person does not want the new monthly bundle.

1 month ago
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So it's revealed at the beginning of the month and I have to pause a week before the next one starts so I don't get the current one?

4 weeks ago
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I am not sure. I assume as long as you do not accept any key for the new bundle of the month then you can select the pause button.

4 weeks ago
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I'm never buying from them again, I got 3k games, so they can get fkd

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As long as you can continue to pause indefinitely, and can make that decision after the games are revealed, it’s reasonably positive as a current subscriber.

That’s more games (possibly of better quality), and more certainty for the same price. I wouldn’t be surprised if they curtailed the ability to pause in the future, though.

It’s certainly poor for those who are not current subscribers, compelling them to sign up at short notice or face a significantly worse deal.

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I'm looking forward to it. by revealing all the games it highly increases the chances that i pay for the monthly. There have been countless times where i was interested in 1 of the early unlocks but wasn't interested enought to buy at 12$

1 month ago
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I'm guessing we will end up with lots of rebundle games every few months.

1 month ago
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The question is what games will be offered. If this helps increase the quality of games, that'd be good.

4 weeks ago
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One would think so, otherwise I have a hard time imagining new subscribers that will pay 20€ for 9 games even if they can choose if they retain the same quality as HBM.

4 weeks ago
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3 weeks ago*
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Until Humble doesn't allow debit card payment, I don't care

4 weeks ago
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Then you're in luck because they already don't accept debit card payment :P

But you can activate direct debit from your bank account.

3 weeks ago
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They didn't accept this before. I know, I tried.

3 weeks ago
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Yeah, you might be right. I forgot direct debit is not available for all countries but they do have it so it might be worth to check from time to time if they added Turkey.

I've been paying for my Monthly plan that way for ~ 2 years.

3 weeks ago
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Try linking your debit card either way and wait for autocharge. That always works for me despite not working 'normally'

3 weeks ago
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"Linking"?

3 weeks ago
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You know, linking a card in your payment info page in HB, in settings or something then just resub and wait for auto charge instead of paying instantly.

3 weeks ago
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Understood. Yes I tried this too. Didn't work for my card. Perhaps my bank just disallow such operations.

3 weeks ago
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Ah damn :/

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