I have watched maybe two episodes total, and found it to be insufferable. I'm not a huge fan of sitcoms in general, but this one is especially bad.
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I liked the first few seasons, back when Raj couldn't talk to women and all 4 were single desperate losers. Then they all got girlfriends and the show went to shit.
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You can even clearly see when things went down, exactly when the girls went in. I like them, but they totally destroyed the good of the show, and then the writers gave the final blow to it.
If you remember, Sheldon even joked about how the writers ruined the show Heroes, which is basically the same that has happened to his own show.
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Women having fake boobs ruined the show obviously.
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Is not that. The show lost its focus when more and more uninteresting characters (potential girlfriends) were introduced. It changed from a sitcom to a romcom.
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Your profile pic just changed my life. I recognized it from a game that I played as a child and could never remember the name of. Reverse image search and I finally know! This has been driving me crazy forever.
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The game franchise of my life! played splatterhouse 1 on my old PC 2 and 3 on my Sega Genesis, i wish i could play the newer xbox version.
pm my profile pic is from splatterhouse 2 first boss, easy kill
"Splatterhouse 2 (Genesis) Playthrough check 3:30"
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Same here. I used to love that show but after that I completely lost interest, it just wasn't funny anymore.
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Same here. I liked it when it was about nerds doing science, then girls showed up...
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Losers? O_0 Probably you mean another show.
Main characters in TBB are the greatest scientists (and Howard).
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Couldn't watch more than 5 minutes of the first episode of 5th season
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+1. I still watch it occasionally, but it's a different series completely from what it was.
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You know that thing, that a lot of other people like?
I don't like it.
And if I don't like it, that obviously means it's bad, because I have great taste.
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+1, we all have different tastes. So I don't really see the point of OP.
Welcome to my whitelist
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I think I only saw episodes from the first... three seasons at most? I remember a few good gags. Not enough to sit down and watch for a full sitting, though.
'Bout time, I guess. Comedy shows can lose their spark pretty quick.
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It will be missed, but not by me: I found it insufferable. Here's an article that makes a couple of points I can relate to. I never figured out the appeal. I'm not sure if fans:
- enjoy being repeatedly bombarded with the same thin comedic premise;
- take nostalgic comfort in being reminded of other pop culture (à la Family Guy);
- feel better about themselves because they now see their poor social skills as a virtue ("I have difficulty interacting with others so I'm probably really, really intelligent"); or
- just think that it's funny through some sort of herd behaviour psychology and the fact that the show plays laughter after every line of dialogue - this is what the show is like with the laugh track edited out.
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There's definitely plenty of garbage out there and it can be difficult to tell it apart at times. You might find this short video interesting - it discusses why so many sitcoms look the same (flat lighting, minimal depth of field bokeh).
HBO is a rare breath of fresh air amongst the conservative American producers that would prefer to remake an English language version of a successful European or Asian cult hit (with focus group driven artistic changes that detract from the appeal of the original) or rehash something else already popular rather than risk backing original art. The DVD commentary for The Wire Season 1 was quite interesting. They talked about how different their approach was to that of traditional TV series production. They compared their work to writing a novel as opposed to the standard series of short stories where everything has to be wrapped up within each episode. They saw it as demanding a bit more from the audience to be able to remember a character or something that happened from three episodes earlier but thought that it would pay off from an artistic perspective. They also decided to hire top-notch acting talent even for bit-part players so they wouldn't be caught short in the case that they decided to write them a more significant part later in the story.
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Never actually watched an episode, the little bits I've seen when other people were watching it were enough to keep me away. To each their own though, I know some people feel the same way about Monty Python (poor bastards ;).
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I absolutely loved the initial seasons, when it was a nerdy sitcom about nerdy things. But then it went popular and mainstream, which sadly meant turning it into a standard romantic soap opera comedy with the occasional nerd references, and I eventually I caught myself not interested in it any more. =(
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So true.
I still like the later seasons but they are nowhere close to the beginning of the show out of the reason you mentioned.
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Agreed, I loved it at first but when it turned into a romantic comedy later on I completely lost interest.
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I liked the first seasons. After a while, it kind of lost its tracks imho. But I kept watching, it`s good to have an end.
As Harvey Dent said, " Or you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself to become the villain".
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It was great for the first few seasons, but then it just kind of started repeating itself. I think I got to season 6 or 7 before forgetting it ever existed. It stopped being nerdy funny and it kind of turned into romantic comedy or something. I'm not against watching a good romantic comedy movie, but it just gets too much when it's like 7 seasons of the same thing.
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It should have ended long ago. I endured the first few seasons, in spite of that annoying laugh track.
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Idk how anyone ever found it funny. I've tried to like it but dear god, nothing about it ever makes me laugh, especially the absolutely retarded "bazinga" moments. Literally some of the laziest writing and acting I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
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I liked the nerdy references.
Watched it a lot first xxx seasons but at some point lost interest.
Overall, most shows on TV are way worse than this one tbh
Oh, and dont say " I have a great sense of humor." Its stupid
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I also fall in the "I don't care" category. A watched a few episodes here and there, mostly from the first seasons.
The nerdy references were cool, and the humor wasn't that bad, but it didn't hold my interest enough to keep watching. I just wasn't the right target for that particular show.
I do have a great sense of humor too, but it doesn't mean I like the same kind of jokes as someone else. I can't count the number of times I came across something I find truly hilarious, show it to my wife, and she just stares blankly wondering what is supposed to be funny.
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First few seasons were fun. But it should have ended with the polar expedition instead of letting it turn into repetitive, boring drek
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I swear, that has to be one of the stupidest shows I have ever watched.
+1. It's a horrible would-be copy of The IT Crowd for the computer-illiterate
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The IT Crowd was an amazingly funny show. I miss it.
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A fire? At Seaparcs?
or
What system is it running on? - Vista! - Oh my god, we are going to die!
IT crowd also had some very awkward episodes. But also some insanely funny.
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I'm surprised how many people on SG dislike the show. I personally absolutely love it, it's my favorite show of all time and the only show I've watched every season of so far. For the last I don't even know how many years this was the only show I liked enough to keep watching, other than Defiance which unfortunately got canceled after the third season.
That being said I'm not sad about this being the final season. I think it's for the best for them to end it while it's still great, rather than prolong it too much and then lose the quality like some popular shows do.
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I'm surprised how many people on SG dislike the show.
I don't think that's the case. The thread started out negatively, so all people who don't like it go with the flow and voice their opinion about it. That doesn't say a lot about how the average on the site is.
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Jumping on the hate train, any hate train is the cool thing to do. Get on with the times man.
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I'm not. Think about the demographic of SG... probably lots of neckbeards and basement dwellers.
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I think KillingArts is on the money and you'd probably see a different set of comments if the original post expressed love for the show (you could even try making one as an experiment). Disagreement on SG is ruthlessly punished by blacklist and a lot of people care about that. Although others will punish by blacklist if they see agreement or any negativity at all, it's easiest to offend the Original Poster because they are most likely to see your opinion, so agreement is safer for those that care about blacklists, and therefore more common here. Personally, I'm not going to lose sleep if someone decides that I can't enter their giveaways because I critiqued something that they like. I find it a bit comical and a bit sad that the blacklist function is used as a silent, passive-aggressive punishment/expression of control, and have more respect for a dissenting opinion like yours. Good on you.
(I don't want to watch it, though)
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yeah I'm surprised too! I also love this show, I think it is so funny!
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I must have an extremely bad sense of humor then, because I actually like it. Sorry that you had to suffer through that because of me! I too hope the show will end soon, so all the people who don't watch it don't have the risk of accidentially seeing a second of it while zapping through the channels!
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i have watched every episode and one thing i can say "let it die with some dignity"
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Ditto, I vastly prefer coherent endings over meandering on and on for years. That's more of a problem for dramas, but it's still nice to give something a proper send off. 12 years has been a long run, some good, some mediocre, but there's a time to stop for everything.
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People didn't like it because it was pretentious.
chemistry joke made with the help of Wikipedia laugh track. You sometimes need to clean your apartment, it's disgusting laugh track. Penny starts doing something relatively normal in an abnormal spot, causing it to be slightly weird What are you doing? laugh track Oh, I'm just insert thing that's ew-icky for boys laugh track You are disgusting, please die laugh track So guys, what is Sheldon doing? Sheldon is being annoying about you! laugh track looks at Penny still doing icky thing I now agree with him, you do icky thing. laugh track
No one's mad with you, no one's angry. Take a moment to think why people dislike this show so much on this site. The majority of people here are actual nerds. No shit they don't like a sitcom that mocks their likes and interests and shows them as terrible, arrogant shitheads.
This isn't a show for nerds. It's a show about nerds made for non-nerds, who can pretend to be geeky by understanding that H2O is water. There hasn't been a single comment that would even be mad or anything. People want the show to end because:
1) They don't like it
2) It's been going on for too long (12 seasons is usually at least 2 seasons too long)
3) The massive amounts of funding that TBBT gets could be used to fund 2-3 new shows that could also be cool.
But I guess you're in a bad mood from something else, so that's why you've taken this turn to look like a total martyr because you like a show that has a massive amount of episodes, almost endless funding and a fanbase that's one of the biggest in sitcom history, but isn't reasonably liked in a small microcosm of consumers. You're pretending like people have an irrational fear of the show, rather than just a dislike for it. Yeah, you're truly the downtrodden here.
I'll take it you have a bad mood from something, so it carried over to here... otherwise I genuinely don't get why you've inflated your ego to these heights to become a victim who's even more misunderstood than Jesus Christ. The 19.8 million people (avg viewer count per episode for Season 11) doesn't seem to be a big enough number for you though. But yeah, you are the reason, you are the victim and you are a misunderstood youngster, who can't seem to find his way in this world.
All of that theatrics for a TV show...
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Buddy, I am not in a bad mood. Did I really give that impression? Guess you can't be sarcastic nowadays without using at least two or three smileys. ^^
What I was trying to say in a funny way (but I guess it wasn't understood that way) is, that it is strange that people want the show to end, just because they don't like it. If you don't like it, the obvious cause of action would be - well, to not watch it. Others still like and enjoy it, so let them. I always find it strange when people want something like a TV show to die, just because they don't like it themselves. The show's existence doesn't hurt them, yet its death is asked for, it "can't come soon enough". That is what I tried to critizise.
I'll take it you have a bad mood from something, so it carried over to here... otherwise I genuinely don't get why you've inflated your ego to these heights to become a victim who's even more misunderstood than Jesus Christ. The 19.8 million people (avg viewer count per episode for Season 11) doesn't seem to be a big enough number for you though. But yeah, you are the reason, you are the victim and you are a misunderstood youngster, who can't seem to find his way in this world.
Woah. zeruel, I think you really didn't get what I was trying to say. Not in the slightest. Probably my own fault for not wording it better. I didn't say and do any of the things you accuse me of. I just wanted to say what I explained above. Nothing more.
All of that theatrics for a TV show...
Theatrics? I wrote 2 lines and made a joke with a little message. Nothing more. Look at your own answer. I am not the one making a big deal out of it. ;)
I hope it's is cleared up now and we can forget about it. ^^ Aside from all that, I actually don't believe nerds in general don't like the show. Some numbers would be interesting. I can only speak of my own experience. The company I work in is full of nerds, and I believe most if not all like the show. I am sure nobody here (in the company) thinks the show actually mocks nerds. Nobody even thinks about that. You know why? Because it's just a sitcom. It's about the jokes, and not a lot more.
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He just couldn't hear your laugh track, play it louder next time :P
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I only saw a few episodes way back on German TV. Localized episodes, and only very few of them - I don't really know that show. I actually wanted to start watching it at some point. But that didn't happen yet.
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start with season 4, s1-3 are pretty dull ^^
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I loved Seinfeld - pure comedy gold - and I'm not even a NY Jew. Or am I...
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You Like Curb your Enthusiasm? That show is still active too.
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Tried it years ago. No doubt in my mind that Larry David is a brilliant writer, but I'm not sure he works as well in front of the camera as he does behind it. At least, not for me. It's such a highly regarded show though, that I should probably give it another shot.
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Yeh, I am a geek and I like the show a lot.
In general I like sitcoms, it puts my mind at ease. Just watching something simple with some humor.
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To me, you gave that impression for sure, yes. Sarcasm is tough in a text. Well, the last sentence was definite sarcasm, but if that's the case, you did some double sarcasm stuff there, just so you know. It's hard to understand sarcasm to begin with with text, but doing double sarcasm is quite a different beast.
Others still like and enjoy it, so let them. /.../ The show's existence doesn't hurt them, yet its death is asked for, it "can't come soon enough".
Same could be said the other way around. Others dislike it, so let them. But I already gave multiple reasons as to why they would want this show cancelled and why they might even be very compelling reasons even for a fan of the show. Feel free to read the previous comment.
Woah. zeruel, I think you really didn't get what I was trying to say. Not in the slightest. Probably my own fault for not wording it better. I didn't say and do any of the things you accuse me of.
Again, sarcasm and victimhood tend to go hand in hand. So if I made a mistake, I'm sorry.
Theatrics? I wrote 2 lines and made a joke with a little message. Nothing more. Look at your own answer. I am not the one making a big deal out of it. ;)
I didn't make a big deal out of it. What I did was take your message, that I construed as you getting frustrated with the community and playing a victim card, and wrote a response to that for you and anyone else that might be interested in the show. Most other comments didn't address anything and instead just made some quips about something, giving no real legitimate reasons for why they don't like the show as much as they display.
When I write comments, I write them for a reason. I don't want to waste my words and time to say something, that could be dismantled in a matter of seconds. Like most of the comments on this very thread. I take my stance, show it and give multiple reasons with explanations as to why I think that way. This isn't "making a big deal out of it", it's more like total regard for your time and my time.
The company I work in is full of nerds, and I believe most if not all like the show. I am sure nobody here (in the company) thinks the show actually mocks nerds.
Cool. What else does one even say to that? "full of nerds" means nothing. A parrot can be called nerdy because it reads a book. A person can be called a nerd because they study a lot. Nerd in itself has no definition and your personal experience plays a small role in here, considering that we both already have examples that we both share... this thread. Use this thread as an example, if need be. No need to take random things that no one can verify and that we can't be sure aren't exaggerated or made up. Know that I'm not accusing of that, I'm just stating the obvious for any argument that is made that way.
Nobody even thinks about that. You know why? Because it's just a sitcom. It's about the jokes, and not a lot more.
Well, if that were the case, then fine. But humans are a bit more complex than this surface level stuff. If you have 4 main characters who are nerds and one character that's not a nerd and that would be it, then who cares. But in reality the one nerd is the straight-man character, who's essentially the one who grounds us in normalcy and helps us convey our own thoughts to those characters. Examples of those characters include, but are not limited to, Dr. Watson in Sherlock (any Sherlock media), Lisa Simpson in the first seasons of The Simpsons, David Wallace and Jan Levinson in The Office and so on. They're the normal ones amongst the world of weird.
And then you have the nerds: Sheldon, who's an immature sociopath; Leonard, who's an inept lover, who lacks social skills; Howard, who's a manchild who has no real education compared to everyone else and has an unhealthily strong relationship with his mother; Raj, who's a metrosexual asshole, who thinks he's better than everyone else and goes out of his way to criticize the straight-man, a.k.a. Penny.
Sure, Penny wasn't perfect, but her issues were always the type that the average viewer would have themselves, so as to make her more relatable and more likeable overall.
If you take all these characters, the jokes they make and so on and put them all together, you get a show that takes a group of people and makes fun of them. That's just what it is. But you can of course make fun of them while also being respectful to that subculture. Take the IT Crowd for example. Moss and Roy and weird nerds and Jen is the straight-man for the non-nerds, but the show serves to have both sides be the straight-edges to some extent. Both sides have the extremely weird world to deal with and both have extreme flaws to them. No side is better than the other. Or in The Office, where, again, everyone is odd to a certain extent, even the side characters have their own quirks to them that don't make them better than almost anyone else. Sure there are "villains", but the show barely dwells on that and they're always conventionally evil.
So, yes, it is a sitcom, but it's a sitcom that uses one side as a sacrificial lamb for the sake of the viewership on the other side.
It is about the jokes. Just think what the jokes are actually about.
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It's officially two smiley faces and one winky face to denote sarcasm now. Get with the times.
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This isn't a show for nerds. It's a show about nerds made for non-nerds, who can pretend to be geeky by understanding that H2O is water.
Yup, that pretty much sums it up. All those non-scientific people thinking they understand science just because they understand the show.... 🙄
I don't care if it continues or not though, one silly show more or less won't really make any difference
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As a fact science related script is reviewed by scientists
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Oh, I didn't mean to imply that what they say on science is inaccurate (I'm not saying it's accurate either*, I haven't watched the show enough to know one way or another). I'm just saying that many people I hear talking about it IRL have this aura of "I feel smart because I get jokes in a show where there is science" which is pretty annoying. Kind of like those who have this aura of "I know hacking and computer security because I watch Mr Robot".
(*) On a side note, E.R. was apparently reviewed by some physicians yet there was some inaccurate stuff in it. Mr Robot was apparently reviewed by computer people yet there was at least some massive bullshit about Tor.
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They could just make it slightly off, not totally insane. Phone numbers have always been quite realistic...
And I suppose they also have a great reason to put a phony amount of RAM?
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I know that fact, sure. But just because a scientist confirms the accuracy of the claims, doesn't mean the claims aren't either purposefully over-complicated to make them sound like mumbo-jumbo and to establish the characters as "smart geeks" or just extremely simple to make the viewer feel smart and in turn feel like one of them, making them more relatable and likeable.
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You've pretty much said all that I wanted to (and much more), but we lost similarities after the personal attacks.
TBBT just seemed like it was poking fun at insecure people. The jokes and laugh track timing just did not click at all. I found that the majority of the jokes were making fun of a mentally challenged person (that can be argued, sure he is a genius (i think?) but intelligence can be found in many mental illness' as kind of like a side effect).
(cant form proper, coherent sentences today. I'm sure I missed many points I wanted to make).
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Thank you. I'm a nerd, and I mostly like it too, but no one was forced to watch it. Though I suppose it took a half hour slot from a hypothetical other show on the network, or slightly inconvenienced the lives of people who watch TV live and had to change the channel or something. But that's so trivial.
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It doesn't mean you have a bad or even unusual sense of humour - it is an extremely successful show, so you are not in a tiny, odd niche. I just think it's quite a polarizing show: the people that don't like it (e.g. me) really find it grating. I don't begrudge you your entertainment, though. Have at it! :-)
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Everyone in this thread shitting on a show CLEARLY not made for them. Do you watch kids shows and shit on them too? Not everything is for everyone.
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True. I like more sophisticated humor, stuff that doesn't need a hinting system (laugh track).
Your kids show thing doesn't make much sense to me though, maybe you mean anime?
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Not everything is for everyone.
Sigh... if only this were a more popular attitude. Especially with art, music, film, etc.
My favorite thing is when people refer to things they don't like as "objectively bad." I guess they're just insecure about their dislike of the popular thing, so they feel the need to justify somehow.
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And it can not come soon enough. I swear, that has to be one of the stupidest shows I have ever watched. I mean, people think that's funny? I have a great sense of humor. But even I couldn't even crack a smile at what they thought would pass for comedy.
But, to each their own, I guess.
Read the article here.
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