Re-registered accounts on SG and groups

It depends... (please write something below)

To be short: It's close to a No for me but mistake happens... so it should be a "can't join again without invitation" or "a delay" something like that
... but i don't think this can be a priority for Valve unfortunately

the only reason for me to re-register would be to start from 0 blacklists.
i think i got on quite a lot when i had times of rant and beeing depressed with me, the world or whatever that was stuck in my head...
but re-registering would also be the easy way so i will see how this year goes ahead

The fact you can even re-register in the first place seems a dubious practice, if it resets all your account stats as well.
Steamtrades, on the other hand, doesn't let you reactivate your account at all.
SG should be set to bring back all of our lovely (and not-so-lovely) stats, not give us a blank slate.

Free Konrads!

If people want to return after a year or more they should keep all the same stats or not be allowed back.

This is so weird... I have NEVER thought about what happens if you delete your account and you try to reregister UNTIL roughly an hour ago and now I see a topic about this. And I'm fairly certain we are not thinking about it for the same reason cause mine had nothing to do with groups.

This is really complex, I don't really like people being allowed to come back with a clean slate, but I also don't like punishing everybody for having used a potentially abusable system. I would prefer just reinstating old accounts if you rejoin, but I guess that would not really be legal because it would mean not deleting personal data upon request...

As a fellow group admin this bothers me a lot as well. I had situations where ex members tried to rejoin but while SG might forget our group website and my spreadsheet does not. But sadly that doesn't work if they were never part of the group before.

In my opinion it should be either one of the 3:

• your account goes back to the way it was before (which I don't think you can due to GDPR, tho I guess you could have a GDPR delete and just a "hide info" delete depending on the persons wants at least)
• you can't register again once your account is deleted (SG already prevents deleted suspended accounts from rejoining for XY amount of time so just make the list permanent to everyone)
• Some sort of notification on the users profile that this is not their first account, that would give the heads up to people.

More and more users, that were before perma suspended for multiaccounting, came back the last months (far from only 1-2 and as far as i see it all after 1 year+), with one of the old account names/with one of the old accounts (with the old stats).
Reports to this cases brought nothing.
A part of them autojoin now (at least we assume this -but will not invest months of time to collect again evidences-) since they joined back.
Questioning a mod about the situation and made him aware of it, brought nothing (we waited months).

So your feeling is correct.

I don't expect that a, positive, solution happens...

Best you can do is rejecting anyone with the same name, if you don't have very positive memories with him/her
But as soon as someone use a other accounts name, the group can be exploited (again). So no chance to prevent it (cg's server side theoretical excluded), when someone really want to.

"Perma suspended" means on sg 1 year.
To get someone perma suspended for all cheating stuff they do, took/take in many cases longer as 1 year.
The hunters of my group weren't happy about this surprise(s).

The right to be forgotten? I would exercise my right to remember someone. bump

No.

I'm surprised SG doesn't associate their old stats (and black-and-whitelisting, etc) with their Steam account so that rereg'ing and tying to the old Steam account would make this a moot issue. That said, I'd probably treat it like a probationary thing, where people have to either provide details of their past account info or reach a certain, group-defined threshold of stats before being considered clean for admission.

I have never been banned but I rejoined a year after deleting my profile because I was working through a major breakdown. I do all kinds of impulsive shit when I'm down and low. I would never even consider joining the unlucky-group. It does bother me that sgtools still show me as level 10 when I am trying to figure out how to reach the state anew.

The whitelist thing is also annoying, I can't remember all the lovely people on here so my whitelist is not how I want it to be, but I'm going for 0 blacklists approach this time so the old stat can be erased for all I care.

AFAIK I have never broken any rules on this site though, and I have absolutely not tried to go out of my way to be anonymous (still same account name as ever)

Voted NO : the SG community and/or groups may or may not decide to provide means to "clean up" an account. In any case, it should be in the ToS of the site instead of being hidden behind a tricky method involving deletion of the account, then playing Finnish power metal under the full moon, or whatever.
Generally speaking in many (most? all?) countries criminal records shall NOT last forever... But it's not up to the criminal to decide what and when and how to clean up its record ! That's because each and every criminal record shall be cleaned up the same way. This cannot be done on request : it wouldn't be fair.
Back to the good vibes !

I answered no, because we are taking people in groups, not accounts. Sure, there may be exceptions, but I can't see how those exceptions are connected to re-registering on SG.

I'm just now learning that re-joining is even possible, seems like a major exploit that should be addressed.
About GDPR, if I remember correctly it only really applies to those in the EU, right? Isn't there some sort of legal loophole that could be used to enforce perma-bans?

I don't think users who are permanently suspended/banned can delete their account and rejoin, which (ideally) means the worst of the worst are not able to exploit this. I've thought about deleting my account so I can remove a very bad game (and maybe others) from my library without being punished. Maybe the majority of account recreators have nefarious intentions but certainly not all of them.