What don't you like about Origin? It doesn't grab folder information anymore (at least not more than Steam does) and Origin offers great customer support and refunds. Something Steam customers wait for ages... The only pro for Steam (imo) is the huge catalog (even most games are crap) and that my 250+ games are on Steam.
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Is on origin community market, greenlight, or workshop?
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I'm sorry, are you their shareholder or what? Why on Earth as a consumer I would give a damn when the company started or when it launched it's product/service? What interests me is what I get for what I pay.
Their games aren't cheaper, are not exceptional in technical aspects and personally, I don't find them appealing to my taste - but that one's just my preference. They also offer me inferior service in certain aspects important to me to level I expect based on - let's not forget - current shitty Steam's service. So I don't think my expectations are so high.
If you're gonna come back defending anyone in such silly way I really hope you at least get paid for it because otherwise I really don't know why would you do that.
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What interests you is what you get for what you pay? Well, that's great, because for the client, the only thing being discussed in this section of the thread, you pay nothing, so anything's a plus!
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You forgot it's their passion project and they keep it up mainly just for the laughs since the games they're selling aren't using it in any way or form therefore majority of the nowadays released games from their catalogue couldn't require it to run.
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Because so many of Steam's games require Steam to run...
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Actually, they do. All of them require Steam, except for the retail versions. Let's say you download ACI. You need Steam to play it, otherwise you have to put a crack. Offine Mode is still supposed to be Steam.
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You missed the point of what I was saying, possibly because you hadn't read any of the previous discussion for context. Remove Steam entirely from the equation. How many of these games stop working? They don't need Steam. Steam is just mostly unintrusive DRM. Remove it and what do you have? A perfectly intact game. Very, very few games require Steam's services to run.
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Ah, but with Steam I've never even needed support. Origin is just a malfeasance to me in every way. Fewer games, no sales, a second client to waste time and resources on, bullshit server errors that result in "without a trace" 700-800MB download packages, greatly extending my download times, etc.
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Don't use. Doesn't really affect me but +1 for steam. Never used. Origin is simple just the store (which sucks) and the games and I like that. Steam is store (sales!), games and software, groups, workshop, greenlight, market... too much stuff. I like them both but I only want to play games, no need for bots inviting me for groups all the time.
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I feel like Steam needs to tinker Greenlight just a little bit more. Fucking every idiot on Steam seems to thumbs up every game that tries for greenlight without actually critiquing the videogame on-display. This way we don't have so many people blaming Valve for letting these games in. It's the communities fault for getting in, in the first place >_>
They also gotta be willing to tear some games straight off their store page too. Cause there's people still buying Special Forces: Team X and that game has been dead for a long ass time.
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Seriously? Community Market is just an option for Valve to get even more money. It's not made to make you like Steam, it's made to gain more money. Greenlight? Well, when you need to pay Valve in order to get a license, it just shows that Valve put Greenlight just to get even more money. Like they care if a shitty game is on Steam... (Gary's Incident, etc...). Workshop? You mean a place where people can upload mods for others to download and enjoy? Hmmm... I prefer the mods which I can find on the internet way more, since the Workshop is terrible by all means.
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From the most basic search possible of Greenlight: "All proceeds from this fee (minus taxes) will be donated directly to Child's Play, a charity dedicated to improving the lives of children in over 70 hospitals worldwide."
Yeah, but nice try. Valve had Greenlight free once until idiots spammed the hell out of it with "lol, Dolan, amirite, guize?"
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1) Community market is just so people can sell trading cards or other little trinkets that they get from playing games. Games are meant to be played, not to earn a 50 cent rebate selling trading cards. Origin doesn't have the community market because it doesn't need it. They don't have trading cards, they don't have hats, and they don't have backgrounds. They don't need any of these things because people play games to play games.
2) Steam is getting rid of Greenlight soon. And Origin is only for EA games, so a Greenlight-like process would be pointless.
3) If you want mods then you can download them off the internet, there's a much bigger variety there anyway. Try looking at how much Left4Dead 2 content is on Workshop compared to how much is just on the internet. Besides, most Origin games don't need mods. The Sims 3 benefits from custom content, but there's so much lying around that a "Workshop" like interface couldn't even capture most of it. Steam only has workshop for some games, and The Sims is the only Origin franchise I can think of that could benefit from it, but it's not necessary.
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Of course it's not necessary to have workshop in origin, especailly for Sims. You don't need enthusiastic people who find joy in creating content, you can buy the 20 reskinned beds in "randomstuffit'scoloredpink" expansion pack for 10$.
Also dismissing any service just because you don't need it is just pointless. The most I do is sell drops on market, but it doesn't hurt me in any way.
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But what I'm saying is that the Sims is the only game that COULD really benefit from it that I can think of. Of the games that I have on Origin, while I haven't necessarily checked, I don't believe most of them have huge modding communities. If you look, there are plenty of free mods online in addition to what you're talking about that have nothing to do with EA. You just gotta look for things outside of the Sims website. There are plenty of enthusiastic people who find joy in creating content for it.
And when I'm saying that the market is pointless, a large part of it is because I like to play games so that I can play them. I don't play them to earn trading cards and sell them. I also don't have Steam because of its market. I have Steam to play my Steam games. I have an Xbox 360 as well, but I find it annoying that Microsoft is making it so that the Xbox isn't really a game console anymore (not that it bothers me too much now that I've made the transition to PC gaming and don't plan on buying the Xbox One/PS4/future consoles). While we can sell hats and stuff on the market, that's just a gimmick. Origin has nothing to sell. They don't use hats so that people will get obsessed with their games. They don't have trading cards and if they added them it would just be copying Steam, but there's no point in trading cards anyway as Steam's benefits for trading card collectors, however small they may be, would have no effect on Origin. What I was trying to say is that Origin users have nothing to sell on a market and hence a market would be useless. As it stands now the market is just for people to sell small things and when others buy them wonder "Why would they buy that?"
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It's EA's way of monitoring their audience. Origin basically takes the information on your computer, operating system, and the hardware and software you have installed, and gives it to other companies for marketing. Current games that release on the PC require you to have an Origin account to play them. And you can't play games offline anymore, regardless of whether you own retail or digital.
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It's EA's way of monitoring their audience. Origin basically takes the information on your computer, operating system, and the hardware and software you have installed, and gives it to other companies for marketing. Current games that release on the PC require you to have an Origin account to play them. And you can't play games offline anymore, regardless of whether you own retail or digital.
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My main problem with Origin is that forced pop-up with 'selected for you' and trying to lure you into buying. There's no way to turn that thing off at all. While with Steam you can turn that pop-up off and you actually do not have to enter the store at all if you don't want to.
Not to mention, looking at how EA failed on SimCity (2013) and it's always online DRM is also a reason for me not to use Origin.
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Go into.your settings and change that stuff then. Its quite simple to.disable the ad and to open on library.
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The only thing that Simcity had to do with Origin was that it was on Origin. Do you hate Steam because it has Bad Rats on it?
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I tell you, what my problem is with Origin. I have been /FORCED/ to use it, since it was beta. They released BF3, and based the authentication on a !!!BETA!!! wannabeDRM, which in my opinion was a resized internet explorer copy. Ever since that you could see that they don't have enough hardware power behind. But you know, most of the issues got fixed over the course of a year. Then things got worse: Every single new game they released there made the WHOLE origin network lagg, or stop working completely. I was playing there, I was there when they released BF3, ME3, Simcity, BF4. The whole fakking network was unusable for DAYS, or even a WEEK, because people tried to activate+login+play at the same time.
THE ORIGIN NETWORK+DRM IS NOT MENT TO HANDLE ANYTHING OTHER THAN USUAL LOW ACTIVITY.
I had problems with ME3's coop ever since I bought it. From day1. I couldn't play with one of my friends, but I could play with an another one. We searched the web, every support page, support center, EVERYTHING. The most relevant help we got: Do everything you've already done, and keep trying. But it DOES NOT WORK. This issue is still there.
You have EA, and you have a developer who makes the game you want to play, and you have a 3rd company (which's name I can't recall ATM) who develops origin. And you can see it, in every game, that they have two SEPARATE login system. You have the game's and the origin. And thoose two loose sync, or connection, or whatever, and the game crashes, or you DC. And they did not fix thoose problems.
"They have good customer support, and refund policy" Seriously, no offense, but if you are too dumb to check what you are buying, and you have to run to the support for refund, because: "OMG GAME DOESN'T START ON MY LAPTOP, GIEFMONEY BACK NOW!!!!" than you are dumb as a brick, and no company can help with that.
Also, there is a reason why they support is fast: Thousands of dumb as brick people are not getting scammed every day. If the kids on steam trying to break rules would not end up being scammed, steam support would be fast as well.
Fun fact: You could've played simcity a week earlier if you pirated it, then the people who bought it. Why? Because that's what you get when you think that origin is good. You get a slap on your face, because every time a game is released the whole network dies. You don't see that on steam, do you? How could you handle that? Hmmm? 10 games got greenlit, let's make steam lagg for 3 days. New CoD is out? Let's put up a day maintenance on steam, and stop everything -BUT- the shop. Just to show you how much we care.
Also, I don't care for titanfall being on origin, there are a lot of good games out there, and everyone can decide for themself what they buy or not.
The only reason I wrote this wall of text is for people who didn't know what origin was, and is about.
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What I ment is they moved every game on purpose to a CLEARLY disfunctional, beta, and let's face it: unable system, instead of just releasing the games with in-game authentication. For the things after that: sure, same as steam, but at least steam does deliver.
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no, I don't, and that is an invalid arguemnt IMO, why? Because it's not the '00s, now software engineers have access to all the information, data structures, they have access to all the good and bad experiences of the industry, damn they used them, and saw what was wrong, and what was a good way to go. And after all this, a multi billion publisher like EA outsourced the project of the system that connects every single product, and aspect of what they have to offer. Valve's steam started out as one of the first systems that tried to connect networks with that big of a size, with no multi billion funding in their pockets, and no already set up route, or direction in front of them.
You don't go to a new hospital, and die, because "they don't know how to run operations yet", do you? This is the exact same thing. EA had every single aspect to make a good system that connects everything EA has made. Instead they choose to get it done as cheap as possible, and boy did it take a toll?
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"It doesn't grab folder information anymore"
Some rapists don't rape anymore, some murderers don't murder anymore, are you ok with them too?
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Because that's totally the same thing. Jesus, you people are shit at comparisons.
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Right here. You directly compared the two, thereby linking them as though they were on common ground. GG, though, nice try turning my words back around on me, except I can actually answer that question whereas you just proved that you can't even understand what a comparison is.
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Nope, if I directly compared the two, I would have said x is like y. Which I didn't do. Instead I used something called "Hyperbole" which someone else has already tried to inform you about. I think it's really very, very simple what I was trying to say. Why are you attacking people on a personal level?
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You talk like Steam was the best in his early time...why u people are such ... no word found.
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It's the hip thing to hate on EA, no matter what they do.
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That's because all they do is suck at not being evil.
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Riiiight, that's all they do, it's all they've ever done. EA is demon spawn and is totally evil, of course.
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Is this before or after they raised $10.5 million for charity?
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Woopiedoo they gave some or their blood money away. That still doesn't count for shit when they treat paying customers like used condoms.
Besides, the Origin bundle ploy only raised so much charity money because nobody wanted EA to have it. So yeah, if being a terrible company means people rather give their money to charity than to you, I guess that counts as doing some good?
Nah..
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Blood money? Really? Do you even know what the hell that means?
EA took no money from the bundle at all. All of it went to charity. But thanks for telling us in no uncertain terms that raising money for charity is evil. EA can never do any right at all. They could cure cancer, all of it, and you would still think of them as the devil. "Oh, they're just doing it for good public relations! What about that time they released a slightly broken first-person shooter, won't somebody THINK ABOUT MY PAIN?!"
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Jeez Jade. Cool off. I don't give a crap about EAs slightly boken FPSs, or what you think about my opinion.
EA and companies like them hold back the gaming industry and piss on their consumer base. If you think giving money to charity makes them a good company who contributs in a healthy way to this industry, well that's your opinion.
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Ah, the old "calm down" argument, for when one has nothing else to say. Again, point out where I said EA is perfect and problem-free, please, I'm really interested to know where I said that. However, what you have said is that not even donating ten fucking million dollars to charity is a good act, because it's "blood money" (no, seriously, do you actually not know what that means?) and that who gives a fuck about any of that that boring old tosh, because they made an underwhelming ending to my waifu video game? Get a goddamn sense of perspective, please.
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Ah, the old "Im too dug into my own argument as to not even try to acknowledge the other persons arguments"-argument, for when people just can't bare to give up a useless internet word toss. Like me. Because I don't think we're even arguing about the same thing anymore..
And what part of me not caring about their broken products, be it shitty endings, bugs in FPSs or a random ugly texture do you not understand? (Italics are dramatic and look cool!)
First of.. Of course I know what blood money means. Ever heard of that wonderous thing called hyperbole? If I'd known you'd scrutinize every single word in order to take kind of moral high ground, I wouldn't even have bothered with this in the first place.
Second, I can't point out where I said you said EA were perfect and problem free, because I didn't.
Third, It's great that they gave money to charity, even if they had ulterior motives, but it doesn't change my opinon of them as a company in the gaming industry. Besides, whether it's "ten fucking million dollars", or just ten fucking dollars, I don't think the act of charity can be quantified.
It's EAs conduct as a leading gaming company in the industry that makes me dislike them. I'm sorry you think of my opinon as invalid, just because EA gave some of their(/our?) money away, but I don't like them better for it.
Their intent was not genuine charity, and I have not seen this followed up by any acts of goodness. If they were to start mending their ways, with a huge charity as a kick off, then my hat would go off to them in an instant.
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i can agree with u in all but not in "ugly texture", not all of their games are broken (at least if u didn't know most of the problems on BF4 are on intel procs 'cause of their bad optimization)..."shitty endings" comes from Mass Effect 3, but people know how to make from a fly a big fucking elephant...and with bugs, i can't argue that, but they at least try to make it better. It's easy to dislike EA for what? For some different endings which are not like we find in all of other games like when ur Captain Price form WW2 still alive in 2014? I don't tell that they don't make me angry with BF4 problems...but it's not a bad company neither...at least not like Valve!
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There's a difference between hyperbole and making stuff up to sound cool. Everything you've said indicates that there's only two ways to think of EA: as a perfect godrace company or as the Devil's sphincter. Since I can't conform to that last one because I have a sense of priorities, clearly I must worship EA with my every waking breath, so you must assume that giving to charity = all is forgiven. Untrue. I think EA has a lot of problems. I just don't think this amount of hatred is warranted except by twelve-year-olds who think microtransactions are the Rapture. And charity can be quantified, at least to an extent, but it was their money (that's how transactions go. We give them money, it becomes theirs) and they could have just not done it at all, but instead even took the time to think about how to make it more interesting for everyone involved and gave Steam keys for basically all the games. Even if you buy into the argument that it was just to get DLC money, that's very, very unlikely to make up for the lost profit from all of those games that were given out, since few would end up actually buying the DLC. Finally, they already have started changing their ways, it's just a slow process to fix problems, and yes, the bundle was the start of it. Ever since the last CEO finally left, EA's done a ton of backtracking. Whether it will last or change anything industry-wise in the long run, who knows, but there was a reason EA and Activision were hugely respected names once and they probably both want to get back to that.
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No, that's pretty much what hyperbolic means. And no I don't think EA is the spawn of satan, just tried down by people who clearly don't understand the industry, the habit to abuse and use customers, and have extremely poor franchise and studio management skills..
Anyways, I really do hope you're right and that EA turn around and clean up their act. Shouldn't be too hard if they try, they do after all have some amazing franchises that could easily help with that.
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As if donating to charity absolves all wrongdoing....
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No madness at all, but thank you for proving yourself to be what I always thought you were.
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And thats the point. People thinks that Origin is here for about 2 years or so. WRONG!
Thats what EA wanted to achieve.
Origin is here from 2005, but they keep renaming it because of... Well you know.
EA downloader -> EA link -> EA store -> EA download manager -> Origin
Same thing, only other names. Almost 10 years and still big turd
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valve has nothing to do with something being exclusive to their drm? lucky random break then getting exclusive rights to a popular aaa title for no reason at all
in that case ea has nothing to do with this either, so what are people complaining about?
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Why would they need to pay for it to be exclusive? EA owns the company making the game.
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Respawn Entertainment was own by Activision until they sue the company and RE seeks founding from EA Partners Program and now it's own by EA.
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Would you prefer to buy an XBox One? Origin at least doesn't require money spent on an additional system, so I don't understand why some people can't just deal with it. It is hardly a poor program, unlike UPlay.
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I think they were commenting more on specifically targeting the Xbox and Microsoft rather than people acknowledging that PS4 does it now too. I personally love how the defence immediately latched onto "Oh, but you get more for your money!" when before the concept of paying for multiplayer was offensive to the core to PS3 owners and now they don't have the "it's free" thing to cling to.
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Because it's another program needs to be running, another login to remember. And so many doing it already. We actually need a program like Trillan for the Instant Messages, just for all the GamingServices. Some program what combines Battle.net App, Steam, Origin, uPlay and all the other stuff. Sad, it will never happen.
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Yea, I do to. But it's also more than this. Dead Space 3 as example, never had the will to do Achievements at all. One time CoOp through it and forever forgotten now. The funny part is even, Dead Space 3 didn't work with Origin Overlay and I had to use Steam ones. So much for quality software. :o
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Origin overlay has always worked perfectly for me, which it would need to since it is used for the multiplayer. However, if you launch Origin in Steam so you can use the Steam overlay (which I'll do most of the time), it will crash the game if Origin overlay is active.
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You need to launch Steam in administrator mode to do that without crashes. I have Steam and Origin overlays at once.
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Oh no! Another login to remember?! You mean you may have to remember using the same username and password? You mean that I have to remember that, in order for it to sign me in automatically without me typing in anything, I have to actually OPEN the client first?
Now if only I had a reason NOT to run both at the same time... I wonder...
Also, remember, monopolies are bad. Hence the Sherman Antitrust Act.
Edit: Sorry if I sounded a bit condescending when you were just politely stating your point. I guess I didn't have a need to use sarcasm here.
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EA wants to maximise their profits. They get more cash per copy selling in Origin than Steam.
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Well, too bad. You can spend several hundred on a XBox One, game and Gold online subscription, or you can spend a bit of time figuring out why you have the problem?
If you really don't want to continue using Origin, do what a friend of mine does. Install Origin, install game, remove Origin, play game. I imagine the online for the game won't work with that method, but the software isn't required to play the games.
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Isn't Titanfall online only though? Or have they clarified that?
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There are many things wrong with it. Its not hated for no reason and just imagine if every single publisher felt the need to jam their shitty software down our throats in order to play their games. Even steam is not perfect but people accept it as its not just DRM at the inconvenience of the user. From Gabe says, he wants to make it a more open platform for developers to have complete control of their store page, for example.
Also you sound like we should be grateful its coming to PC when its in their interest. Companies don't do what their customers want, they do what makes them money, they exist to make money from you and hopefully offer you a decent product for it but knowing EA's track record even though they are not the dev's, publishers have a lot of control and are the ones responsible for games being rushed and released incomplete amongst other things.
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It is however hated for reasons that no longer exist. Many of the flaws I'll see people use when they ***** about Origin either aren't now, or at times are even flaws that Steam has.
And yes, when the alternative is spending several hundred dollars on another system, Origin is a far better choice. At least it isn't an system exclusive title.
I'm well aware companies are in it for the money, its a good part of why Origin exists as a service after all.
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Origin. This is a thing that makes a game not 'amazing'. To get rid of that, people have to stop buying games with this service. Otherways they'll keep releasing AA tiltes on it, is that what you want?. If yes, have fun. Ea can make great games, they showed it too often to say they can't but they hardly bitching with the users and this really have to stop.
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Yes, Bad Rats would be an incredible game, if only it wasn't launched through Steam!
Don't judge a game by it's platform, that's ridiculous.
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The only time you should be allowed to do this is if you are comparing consoles. And even then, that can really only apply to SNES vs Genesis, since that was really the only time where controllers were extremely different from each other, and it would matter when it came down to playing, say, Mortal Kombat 3 on either the Genesis or the SNES, because of the button layout and how many there are.
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I agree that it is ridiculous for a AA game that people are sooo looking forward to is only going to be accessible through Origin. And I do feel that it is unfair, and truthfully quite stupid. But really, with a game like TitanFall, were the only other option is buying a Xbox One, I think I would rather just use Origin. But that depends on the person, and how hyped you are for this game. Personally I've been very hyped for this game, that's why I will buy it and play it on Origin if need be, as I will not go and buy a XboxOne. Plus it's really not that hard to play it on Origin instead of steam. Sure it's one more program open and whole different community, but if it is the only way for this game....Why not? It's not like the gameplay is any different.
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I do agree that I would wayyyyyy rather see this on steam. But if Origin us the only way to get this game...I guess it will have to do. atleast it doesnt effect the game at all.
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On the other hand, South Park: The Stick of Truth won't have uPlay at all
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I don't mind Origin nor Uplay. I prefer my games on Steam but seriously ...
There are bigger issues. If additional software REALLY is an issue then you probably need to clean your PC up anyway.
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Indeed. The only reason I hate UPlay is that the games I have on it won't run without an internet connection. I've wanted to play Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon while my internet was down. :(
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I can understand that. I was offline for about 6 months at one point, to save a bit of money. Steam worked fine (other than being unable to earn achievements offline). With how little I actually need a high-speed connection, I wish I could just pay a nominal fee to have a minimal connection and pay an extra per-day fee if I actually had a use for high speed that day. Say $10 flat and $2 a day.
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they forget about what Steam used to be in 2004...
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but of course it is. steam collects data for the nsa :) (just like apple, microsoft, google, verison, att, facebook, rsa security, origin, paypal, all creditcards, the cable electric and water companies in your locally established monopoly, your isp, the dmv photo database, world of warcraft, the state of calafornia, the irs, sony, hp, costco, the heads of major drug cartels, reynolds foil corporation, voting machines, betty crocker, your friends and neighbors via flag@whitehouse.gov, and most likely radio transponders by the fillings in your teeth)
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yes, i prefer having all games on steam, too. but origin isn't that bad, and you really can't blame EA for using their own client to sell their own games. Valve doesn't publish their games on Origin either, right? and having some competition on the market is a good thing in general. you know that steam recently added a feature to cancel preorders? well, Origin was first. and their system is even better in my opinion (buy and play a game, give it back if you don't like it within 24 or 48 hours). maybe Valve wouldn't even have implemented the new system, if there was no Origin. competition is good, and i really don't mind starting Origin every once in a while.
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I certainly don't like EA but I have to admit that it makes sense. If you really want to play it I guess you will have to make an origin account. I won't be though. I have decided not to support EA anymore.
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how does this contribute in any way to the discussion...
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I didn't even know Titanfall was using the source engine.
Well seems like another "Please hate us!" yell by EA, using the source engine but instead of releasing it on Steam like any other Source Engine Game/mod would they go to Origin, especially since they have to pay Valve for the source engine?
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i really don't get it. they license the Valve engine, and that means they have to be on Steam? why is that? every other source game is on steam? so what, thats not an argument at all. i kind of hate defending EA here, but if they license the source engine, they can do with it, whatever they want. and Valve is fine with that for sure, else they would just demand a release on Steam as part of the contract.
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I haven't realized you can just buy a license to the source engine.
I recall it being Open Source and having restrictions like "give us X% of the money you own!" like Unreal has, but investiagion has shown that mods are free to make, games require a license and in that case you are right, it is just like any other engine and EA can do with it whatever they want since they payed for it.
Personally I prefer seeing a well engineered engine like Source to be used in EA games.
Regardless, EA put themselfes on my "never trust never like" list, when they decided to make Origin Spyware and even be illegal as such in Germany at the beginning.
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EA is not always the pure evil. ^^ i recently found out that EA was responsible for giving us Populous back in the day, when no other publisher wanted to take that risk (recent TB video). Populous was a big milestone and invented a whole new genre. so EA must also be on our "thank 'em forever" list. ;)
and i am still not sure about this whole spyware thing. because at least some of the reports back then were identified as fake picures/videos from EA haters. so i really cant tell what exactly origin did or still does, and how much worse that is in comparison to steam.
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Oh no! A game you (presumably) wanted now has gameplay that is entirely unchanged and features that are also entirely unchanged?! Oh the humanity! You can't buy it now!
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As I said to someone else:
Oh no! A game you may have wanted now has gameplay that is entirely unchanged and features that are also entirely unchanged?! Oh the humanity! You can't buy it now!
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That was a Source game? I didn't believe it at first, but wow. Source, though is nice, didn't certainly seem very "next-gen" as it lacked all those fancy features like AO, SSSS, tesselation, etc. But hey, it's an online title for consoles. I guess it helps.
Also, the graphics doesn't give it away. It looks AMAZING. It's incredible what they managed to eek out of that old but versatile engine.
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because of origin? because if you just dont buy the game, because you didnt plan to anyway, your post is misleading. ;)
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and you dont want to tell us, why exactly you hate origin? ^^
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I'm getting tired of posting this.
"Oh no! A game you (presumably) wanted now has gameplay that is entirely unchanged and features that are also entirely unchanged?! Oh the humanity! You can't buy it now!"
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Yeah I know that EA is the publisher. I was hoping that it will also be on steam since the source engine was used for this game.
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EDIT: I personally have no problems with Origin, just saying that I think it should be on Steam too since the source engine was made by Valve.
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