Question what would make you leave using Steam for Epic Games full time? 100% rev for the dev

no one could really overthrow Steam when it has such an established library + easy access for indie developers, a proper profile system with achievements, friends, community page with tons of game-related content etc.

Epic could keep trying to bribe the player by giving free games but it's a dead end model

Personally, there's absolutely nothing they can do. I built my games collection on steam and that's where I'm staying, every other feature that they have is just an added bonus, not a deciding factor. People are creatures of habit and convenience that's all there is it.
100% rev split for devs even if its just temporary is applaudable, but in the end its not actually done thinking about the devs and I think everyone understand this, its just another exclusivity tactic.
Which once again goes against the good old market competition, no matter how they try to spin it, its been years of this and they still don't get it.

The thing is Epic needs to work on it's launcher. It's very slow and doesn't have community features and it's painful to navigate. I'd love to buy indie games on Epic, since they get a much bigger cut there than on Steam, but Epic has no marketing tools, there is no discovery queue, or a useful search engine or some tool that helps you find game based on other games you liked. I do like that Epic isn't full of low effort anime porn games or jigsaw shovelware like Steam is lately and their prices are usually better in my region than Steam's.

~30€ / hour salary for playing using their DRM

:-D

would have to improve the client/site(why can't I view my owned games on the site STILL) significantly, allow me to tie my steam and EGS accounts together(so shared libraries, save data, achievements, etc...), cross platform chat.

even then I question if I would move over.

Epic could clone Steam 100% down to the UI and backend and still people wouldn't switch. Steam is a religion cult

They would have to improve the platform utility so much more, even better than Steam. Regular free good games are nice, but it doesnt go a long way alone. One opportunity that Steam has dropped is the big sales fun or creativity from 10 years ago.

As more for the devs (or publishers) as better.
I like epic exclusives because i would anyway not purchase the games in the first year, in no shop, so it don't hit me and it is good for the devs/publishers. And it is good as customer that steam have a, small, competitor, only this way they must do something over short or long to hold their customers (better prices, better client, better events etc...).

For me are GOG the only real competitor to steam because they offer not only a leasing license (as steam does) and instead a DRM free game that you really own. On top, no keys that get revoked years after the purchase, no devs/publisher that use utopic prices for their trash shovelware etc..
And they implemented now the -90% deals and "pick by yourself" bundles, that i recommended them in one of the last surveys (maybe a coincidence but it feels good and hit my taste :o) ). I think with such steps they can get the needed attention and customers to be a, small, competitor to the overwhelming "each time some discounts, events and bundles" on steam and all the key selling shops.

Only use Epic for freebie games that i don't have on steam (some games like Bloons TD 6 / F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch / RUINER / Kao the Kangoroo ...)

But can't even see using Epic at 100%, same for Steam, use both for having more games in library and available to play for the cheapest price ...

Steam would have to die. EPIC is and will be a fine secondary platform, but it really should be exceptional - provide everything in a better manner. Which it doesn't IMO.

I wont even look at the store until I hear they get forums for the games, user reviews, and the ability to gift games. They could get thousands of exclusives and I still wouldn't care until they add those things. That wouldn't get me to switch, but I'd probably be willing to start buying some of their exclusives on occasion.

A much better client (like, one that doesn't require a background service to be running at OS startup, to begin with - AFAIK that's what Epic now does and is the reason I haven't updated my Epic client in ages) and dropping the horrible hCaptcha as well as the mandatory 2FA would be a basic requirement for me. When this is all done (not likely to happen anyway), we can see about other details.

100% revenues for devs looks like an interesting concept, but let's be realistic for a minute, these platforms provide a service to the devs, like hosting their huge poorly space-optimized games, processing payments, dealing with (some of the) customer support, etc, so it's only fair if they do take a share to cover their costs. And this exclusive thing is actually one of those "other details" we could talk about once the core issues I listed are dealt with. I'm really not inclined to support a company that tries to undermine the competition by operating at a loss like that (100% dev revenue share for exclusive is exactly this), but at the same time it's not a big issue as long as Epic is not in a dominant position.

there where always exclusives on each platform or app, competition is important for the free market and we are just used to use steam because they had the monopoly for years....they arent better nor worse than epic....

Being paid to play on it, I guess :D (and a lot more than what we can earn with steam cards / skins loot+steam market -- csgo and others = not in cents !). It will bring friends too eventually?

Steam is where I have my library and friends. An easy all-in-one. I don't know why I should go elsewhere.
It's like chat apps - I heard that in US, iMessage is broadly used - here in France it's essentially Whatsapp and Messenger, I don't know why I would migrate on Telegram or iMessage if people I interact with and messages history, groups etc aren't there.

Looks like desperation on Epic's end. Apparentely publishers lost interest to release their games exclusive on Epic's store. I would assume it's because they sell much better on Steam after the exclusive period.

Epic's big mistake was and is that they focus on the publishers and not the customers. That's why they aren't doing too well.

I made Epic but never play it. Simple answer would be:
My games have been here on Steam for a decade.

I played a lot Valve's games in the past. As I made Steam when I was kid, Steam wallet was easier to reach than international transfer. Even now I don't play them much, but sometimes. Unless they (or someone) pull me to Epic with a good free long-lasting game, there is no way I could get rid of Steam. GTA V might do, but I wasn't lucky enough. As time passed, I could have owned more good long-lasting games on Steam, then it might be harder to change in the future.

Also, thanks to all kind people on Steamgifts (includes you) who give new games to keep me playing on Steam.

Nothing. It's not about "I hate epic" or "I love steam". It's about how Epic has pulled way too many skeezy, BS or scummy moves over the years. I do not support that kind of thing. Steam isn't completely innocent but unless I'm mistaken the worst they have did was some microtransaction in CS and Dota2? They have done a lot more for the customer then Epic has and would ever do.

i got ARK for free from epic,
played it for over a hundred hours ,
paid for it on steam and all the DLCs too,
epic did not support modding, joining server needed extra steps, it was annoying for both me and my friends.

i play another game, i can't know for how long, i don't know what i achieved, i don't know who have or want this game to talk to them about it, there's no one to ask about any problems i might have with the game, this is probably as close as you can get to play a pirated game, except that pirated game support modding.

1- make the launcher 10 times lighter.
invest in something similar to gog galaxy or playnite, something that helps me play all my games but it belongs to your store and i have access to the below features.
2-you need a community, they will never become an actual store without a community to support the store.
a community, reviews, discussions to keep people interested.
3- a market and game keys, there's a cult behind the steam market, over a million deals daily and a ridiculous amount of keys of the most random games being traded daily.
4- since you already take less money from publishers, might as well ask them to give the customers better offers than the ones they have on steam, the vast majority of gamers don't care or don't even know who develops or publishes a game or how much money they're making.

for me personally, if i see epic looking similar to steam i might start buying my games on epic just because steam's been really annoying and caring about their customers for many years now and i think it will make them put actual effort into their store if they see competition.
i don't care what platform my games are on as long as they're nice to play on.

Somewhere out there, an Epic executive is reading all these comments and taking notes.😅

High quality bundles with low prices, similar to EARLY humble and bundle stars ones. They've made me using steam, they might make me using epic.

I don't know why people take sides in the petty squabbles between billionaire oligarchs and their corporations or nations. Obviously Steam is more convenient and so that's where I play most PC games, but I don't really care if a game is an Epic exclusive either. I've got no problem playing games there. Or on GoG. Or Itch. Or wherever.

Steam could completely shut down and I wouldn't touch Epic. I'd go back to piracy or quit gaming altogether (and both of those options are extremely undesirable).

Epic Games Store offers nothing and, no matter how many token improvements they make, it will continue to offer nothing.
Steam isn't perfect of course (nothing is) but at least most of its major fuck ups can be chalked down to external pressure (laws or publishers demanding/asking for things), the risks that come from trying new things, Valve's chaotic internal structure or people exploiting the shit out of pretty much anything nice they add (Remember when major sales had cool events linked to them? Or when we could gift between regions without having to worry about price differences? Yeah, people abused those into the ground. So I guess I'll sum up this point to "them having to deal with general human bullshit".). Steam has spend 20 years of trying new things and taking risks to progress from a clunky piece of shit to an actually reasonably nice to use video games distributor.
Epic Games Store's very existence is to make money for its shareholders. All actions it takes are because Epic's analysts say that those actions will make the most money (it has already been mentioned in this thread that the freebies are an investment in order for EGS to attempt to root itself into the younger generation). No matter how much PR bullshit it spews, It doesn't care about the users, the developers or the games- those are just pieces to manipulate for more money. I consider Epic to be an enemy of games as an art.

So, TL;RD: Gabe Newell has managed to convince me that he's probably maybe not a bad guy. Meanwhile, pretty much anything Tim Sweeney says in regards to Epic Games Store just makes him sound more and more like a massive liar.

I use both (I use all launchers not just these two).
I play the free games on Epic, I've just finished Death Stranding there which I would have never bought otherwise. I also buy games on Epic when they are cheap enough.
I stay on Steam because it is the best launcher social-wise and I have many games I haven't played yet.
If it was up to me, GOG would be my main launcher but I can't afford the prices there so I keep my purchases to the minimum.
All in all for the consumer who just wants to play games above all, Steam is simply better because of bundles and trading but Epic is better for direct purchases so using both is a win-win.

I'd leave Steam & Epic in a heartbeat for GOG, if that was possible. Maybe someday, until then I'll keep using them all.
Loads of people dislike Epic, but it's a needed alternative to Steam. Gamers and developers both benefit from Steam not having a monopoly, that's beyond dispute.

Steam stopping selling games / being that much more expensive than GOG / Epic.

The biggest reason I'm still using Steam is my already existing library and the bundle deals.