"If the key does not work, you should agree to delete the giveaway."

Those rules are not valid in SG though. Otherwise you'll have people stipulating FB likes or all kinds of shenanigans.

But then, nobody forces them to create such giveaways - they could also drop those keys in some thread and not have to write anything.

(2+2*2+1)ICEX-V4QDK-PHN(on the other side to the A)K

+bingo

+, though it's ethically better to let him delete. I mean, the creator has no gain for it, he just wanted to share but wasn't sure if the key was working, probably. Hopefully.

I always agreed to delete a giveaway if there is any problem...dont want to be a dick :) ...have only a problem with it that people think they need such a line....I though steamgifts is like a big family and not like in court

If you want to be a dick

If you want to be a dick, create a GA to game the CV system, then avoid taking responsibility (="not received" feedback) when it turns out the key didn't work.

This is why people end up asking for stricter rules and harsher penalties for the smart asses that try to wiggle their way through the cracks in the system.

Are you still a 'dick' if it's the third time in 5 wins that a key doesn't work?

Even if it is a private or group giveaway a sentence like that has no impact - as far as I know.

The steamgifts guidelines have nothing about agreements in giveaway descriptions, so description agreements are not enforceable.

Yeah, sure you can. And don't forget to mark yourself as a 'big arse' then.

SteamGifts is a place where people gift stuff for free. And the main thing about this place is that no one owes you, or anyone, 'cause you are getting stuff for free, without giving anything to the giver in exchange, and this is the main idea.

I live in a locked region and I would really like to give something back to the ROW community. But I can't buy ROW Steam gifts, which was the best way of gifting, so the only option for me are keys.
And here comes the thing about the keys: you can't be sure they are not activated or expired or something else. The only way to know is to give it to someone. There's also another issue: I would like to give something nice, not just some bundle waste, but the reason my region has lower prices is due to us having much-much lower salaries, so buying game for full price (which is often 60$, which makes ~1/6 of Belarus average salary) is not affordable at most times.

And it would've been great if I was just able to remove GA if something is wrong with the key and I can't buy the replacement, although I try to make sure key is okay - no one is protected. If GA is removed - I don't get anything, so there's no options for fraud.
But because of people like you I refrain from making ROW key giveaways, because there's always a chance key won't work and winner refuses to delete giveaway, so I'll get "Not received", suspension and bad mark on my account that I try to keep clean. Why should I risk? I see no reasons.

Well, ones I asked people to agree to delete in case keys not working (because keys was from HRK and I did have problem with this few times). But I also told them that , if that happens (thankfully everything was fine) i will do my best to get the right key (with winners help, because it requires screenshots of steam library, etc...)

It's more of a courtesy to the giver..
...with people who had tons of wins and only a few giveaways demanding their "rightfully won game"

This.

Giveaways only get deleted if the winner agrees.
There are exceptions for re-gifts and obvious fake (= the giveaway creator says it is fake) giveaways - as far as I know.

As long as you don't get Non-Receiveds regularly, and you have legitimate cause for getting one, staff'll let you by without any punishment other than the Not Received. They will not, however, delete such a giveaway without winner approval, hence why GA creators add the line being discussed. On the other hand, greedy auto-joiners that join without regard to the GA creator's concerns and attempt to manipulate out keys don't get punished for their negative behaviors, either, so everyone is pretty free to approach it however- as is, the current setup can't be said to be favoring one or the other group.
After all, the matter isn't actually against site rules, which prohibit fake or misleading giveaways (as indicated here), not potentially invalid ones (especially ones which are listed as being such). [While official rule pages are outdated in many areas, the one relating to the matter indicates that GA creators must offer reasonable effort in attempting to get a working copy of the giveaway game to the winner, perhaps forming the basis of that distinction.] In that sense, giveaway slots are the core site mechanism which relates to countering such giveaways, rather than any specialized punishment- ergo why if a trend of abuse isn't noticed, staff doesn't have cause to not allow the site to self-manage such matters.

That said, it's generally better to direct such giveaways toward less self-centered users, by way of specialized groups or even just invite-only SGT forum listings. At the least, it'll help encourage any auto-joiners (while I'm unsure how many of those there still are, I'm including people who enter via giveaway list in this category) to actually read the description, even if they still choose to not follow it. Most respectable groups also tend to look unfavorably toward their members not abiding by such requests (or, at the least, toward any members being outright rude about how they respond to such requests), so that adds an extra layer of security when using an established group.

The real issue is when people post a giveaway without listing special considerations beforehand, which puts a lot of stress on everyone involved, and really shouldn't be honored [except when the issue relates to the key site, such as when GMG cancels keys that are older than a week old, and such risk was unknown to the GA creator beforehand]. This is especially true for GA creators who mislabel their games as another game entirely (something which a certain moderator unfortunately actively [and quite rudely] encourages), despite such being blatantly against several site rules as-written, in addition to going against basic respectability.

In any case, the quote the OP gave lists "should agree to delete", which seems to indicate an ethical imperative, rather than the insistence of abiding by customized rules. As noted by others, there's no reason a GA winner needs to abide by custom rules, but at the same time, an entrant getting upset over someone simply asking for respect of their considerations is a rather unpleasant mentality for this site to be approached with.

Giving someone a game other than the giveaway game is going to get them a suspension. And fuck them up with SGTools stuff.

Very well said, couldn't agree more.

"Hey, fair warning, and also if you'd be so kind-"
"HOW PRESUMPTUOUS TO THINK I WOULD NEED WARNING, *OR* BE KIND. HOW DARE YOU, SIR."

I feel like you may potentially not be getting the specifics of your position across well. That, or your joke isn't coming across well? :P
It may also just be that you're working off assumptions from the OP's quote alone- my own experiences indicate that nearly every single such request is quite polite and respectful, which isn't a trait that really comes across in the OP's presentation of the matter. Generally, there's no reason to feel contrary, as such requests are usually presented quite favorably.

Generally such requests relate to keys we GA creators have forgotten about for years. There's rarely any risk to them, and such requests nearly always seem to never need to be "cashed in on", but we do like being polite and covering the bases when deciding to post such giveaways. While I think more established users generally move toward giving the games away directly, or offering solid compensation if the keys don't work, that may not be an option for newer users [and likewise isn't something which should be requested of users in a positive-minded group who are in otherwise good standing, where nitpicking on giveaways can really ruin the vibe of the group].

As far as revocations, I don't think you'd get too many SG users arguing that those shouldn't get a Not Received. Even if it's not the fault of your own actions, unless it's the outcome of a developer action, revocations are generally otherwise exclusive to using sketchy sites; common sentiment on SG seems to indicate that we accept such risk as falling on the shoulders of those who decide to use such sites.

There's a distinct difference between temporary CV followed by a revocation, and "hey, this key hasn't been in a bundle since, so I may not be able to replace it, so let me delete it and at no point get CV for the giveaway if there's an issue". One indicates the possibility of intent or poor decision-making, one outright states an absence of such.

It's fine to be suspicious, but where benefit of the doubt is openly requested beforehand, it's really.. tacky.. to not agree to offer it.

It's considered a courtesy to allow the deletion, though.

I don't disagree with that bit, but it's also considered a courtesy to delive the promised key ;D

I think it can go one way or another depending on the GA creator's attitude. If they apologize and politely ask you to let them delete the giveaway, then I see no reason to be mean. But if they demand that you "have to" let them delete the GA... ;)

I completely disagree with the general SG feeling that only GA receivers have obligations and the GA creators should be revered.

Rules heavily favor GA winners (at the least, far more so than is typical for such interactions as SG provides), and obligations generally fall to the GA creator. Further, the site is known for having significant numbers of entitled, selfish, manipulative users on the site (especially within low level public giveaways and among the unfortunately quite large, openly bigoted subsection of forum users).
The sentiments you're referencing are all responsive to those elements, generally coming up in the manner of "we shouldn't take GA creators for granted [as they too often are]". Actual reverence toward GA creators, or any elevated sentiment vaguely similar to such, is something I have never once seen on SG- to the contrary, GA creators (or any type of site contributor) are often treated poorly, and such has been a listed cause of several certain well-known users leaving the site.

As far as the rest of your statement- yes, a handful of users end up wanting excessive gratitude. That's no different than with any similar human interactions. Be it self-importance or never having received enough gratitude for things growing up, some people are that way. That said, up to a point, there's really no reason for us not to cater to such. Putting aside a bit of pride to show genuine gratitude for something we've been given freely is just basic courtesy, and never something we should hold hostage because we feel that we're too good to offer it, or because we deserve it, or because we feel the motivations behind the gift aren't "pure enough".
Moreover, this is a site where most of us GA creators don't even comment- much less blacklist or speak negatively of- people who are ungracious, due to not wanting to take the risk of scaring off those willing to genuinely give gratitude, or bury them under the manipulative insincerity that such habits would generate. What you're describing is, as it applies to being a "general SG feeling", utterly fictional, within this site filled with users that are too often self-centered and inconsiderate and even outright nasty in temperament. Even within specialized groups, you're lucky to get a third of the users willing to show gratitude or respect toward GA creators. For public giveaways, you normally don't expect it at all.

If your own experiences differ, then savor those positive interactions, and keep an open eye on the negative ones you've perceived. Unfortunately, the longer you remain on this site, the more likely it is that someone will manage to change your perceptions.

Maybe not, because that would be Invite only GA`s.

Hmm.. that reminds me of this thread
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/Rl7Jo/dont-like-bots-post-your-random-invite-only-giveaways-here

Maybe it is time for a thread similiar to this one.
Just with an altered headline:
"Unsure about your Key? Post your random invite-only giveaways here."
With a modified description of course.

And the people who like to see a problem in such disclaimers cant complain anymore.

Wonder about this also. I got keys crossed on giveaways before, which would've been a huge cluster if I didn't discover it and delete the giveaways in time. (winner of one game told me he got wrong key, and I was able to cancel a soon ending giveaway which I had incorrectly input the key for what the first one had won. I was lucky in that event). Have also given away games this year from years old bundles (2014 I think) and luckily they still worked, but it almost makes sense to not do the giveaways if feelings are so strong around this.

No, CG wrote in another thread that there are no punishments for having "not received" games (unless you would fail to deliver big chunk of GAs). But also that he knows that people like to have 100% of received games, but it's purely psychological factor.

It was in topic about deleting GAs to not have not received games on profile.

I'm still waiting for an invite to said Discord channel :P Merry Christmas and Seasons Greetings :)