Just out of interest :) I see so much talk of 'ninjas' here, digital geeky style of course, not modern delta force/freerunning style or ancient Japanese style.. and I always have a little chuckle at their claiming the name.

I trained in a bunch of martial arts disciplines but mostly ninjutsu growing up.. haven't been active since diagnosed 2004 with a back condition..

Anyone else study this awesome artform, or other martial arts?

There are so many styles I want to incorporate/learn.. krav maga looks fun :) along with most of the styles I saw on 'Mind Body & Kick Ass Moves' tv documentary series with Chris Crudelli.

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Bujinkan ftw! Specially when the Soke has purple hair. XD

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i've done a bit of jujitsu and judo, but that was a long time ago

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I find flipping far bigger dudes (I'm pretty skinny and only 5'7") pretty tough from my tries hehe.. sideways if I'm lucky haha.. I need more stomach strength :( bloody Crohn's disease makes it hard, my gut is crap all the time

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That sucks! I have IBD as well, though not Crohn's, and personally know how much it sucks to have things you used to take for granted taken away from you.

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Closest thing I've trained is judo. Quite fun, but too much focus on championships and the Japanese language, so I quit a few years aglo.

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When it becomes more about sport, I think it loses a lot of its practicality through rules and technical hit concepts

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Yeah, and with trainers forcing you to compede. No, that's not for me.

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Kendo; but that was a while back

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Love kendo, I wish I had the opportunity to have done it :) Looks so fun! I love the vocalisations.

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I'm pretty good at "Drunken wannabe Ninja" style.

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I like to watch Satsuke and dream :)

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No, i don't know ninjutsu, but i am elite trained alcoholic.

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i would call that drunken master sounds better :P

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There is actually a kung fu style called Drunken Fist. :)

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Sounds like something nobody would know where it'd hit (not even the practioner).

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I had forgotten how awesome Jackie Chan is. Thanks for reminding me.

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It can help! It softens the blows of injuries at least I think :) at least for while you're drunk! I'm light weight with the alcohol though.. I can drink heaps if I want to, but I get so little pleasure out of it. I think my body's just not made for the stuff..

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tai jitsu, aikido(Iiii haatt ittt :D),karate and sometimes, real katana trainer.

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You train with katanas?
I've always wanted to do that, but there's nowhere I can around here.

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It was exclusive. First I we trained with a wooden katana, then with a real one and than we made a match. The trainer was in the middle and a player was opposite against an other player in distance.(distance 4 meters, because we haven't got a lot experience) Since the trainer was in the middle he watched every single movement we did. Goal: a test of reaction, positioning, cleverness(which technic to use) and a perfect sync technic.

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Sounds like fun anyhow. How did it feel?

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exhausting, but I enjoyed alot :)

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The funniest thing at my ninja school was when a noob/friend of mine started, richie rich kid, he got his parents to buy him a katana. Of course they train with ninjatos :)

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I would really like to learn a bit of krav maga, systema, sambo or some other type of combat style training.. to enhance my current MA experiences

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taekwondo

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pokemon gym leader

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I think I need to study this more since the girls I am dating are a few years younger than me nowadays lol. Back in my day, we played ninja turtles at primary school.. then it became power rangers when I was in high school and then started laughing at the young kids playing power rangers which the wobbly enemies.. so I kind of missed out on the whole Yu-Gi-Pokie-Beyblade-Mon thing :)

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I used to do ninjutsu, that was pretty fun, I eventually left it behind, and now I play rugby. :/

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Rugby gives you giant ass-kicking leg muscles at least :) I always wanted to do Ice Hockey to practice my flipping peoples and collisions, as well as kinetic transfer. But only could afford inline hockey, which was lame, mixed gender and non-contact.. not to mention really really hot in lots of pads and no ice..

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I don't myself, but I know someone who takes his ninjutsu VERY SERIOUSLY.

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4 years karate as a kid, 1 year judo, then a few years living in the middle east and being in some small street altercations, once including a big butcher's knife wielded ahainst me and my two friends, then back here in NL, I started Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu - Ninjutsu to some. 8 years of that, and I work at a bar now here where I live. Well it's a big skate park that does parties for up to about 1000 people. Big soundsystems and everthing. Of course, shit happens there all the time. Alcohol, drugs, etc. We've had security for the past 2 years there now, right about. Before that though, and still now, I'm usually the first on the scene to respond. Do something to break it up / help carry someone / whatever. And I'm 1,70m, 60 kgs. Haven't been seriously hit once so far. //knocks off wood.

It's helped me in more ways than one. I'm more self confident, physically very confident, and can isolate thought processes such as fear, so I can respond as I please to situations, rather than as impulse dictates. It teaches mental discipline at times when needed, and life wisdom in a way nothing else, other than true martial arts, can.

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Damn OP, you sound like a badass, everyone else are just "digital geeks" while you're being AWESOME! It's a shame you got that silly back condition so you have to sit at your computer playing video games the whole day. :(

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Haha, I still try to get active. I have Crohn's disease too.. I decided early on my main intention in life is music production/performance.. nowadays feel more music is a tool for shamanic healing and I am called to a shamanic apprenticeship, preferably in Tanu Tuva, where they focus on music rather than drugs for healing and ritual. North or South America would be a nice backup option though. I want to do so many styles. I started at age 5 with Zen Do Kai, then Go Ju Ru Karate, Go Ju Kai, Tai Kwon Do, Ninjutsu, some other Karate variant, archery, weapons training. I would love to get back into Ninja but I feel the best things for my conditions would be something like Aikido, where use other's force.. so I have something to fall back on if I am in chronic pain and need to fight. A lot of other styles spark my interest, I'll make a list of them soon. I really want to practice some more freerunning/parkour techniques, as I feel this is a good part of modern 'holistic' warrior training with a ninja feel :)

p.s. I'm not dissing digital ninjas, just coming from the jaded 'fauxriginal' gaijin ninja style, claiming original ninja titling :) also I don't play much at all, I just leave games running to get my steam hours played for the fortnight counter up to some silly high amount. I don't think there's anything wrong with digital ninja'ing.. just like there are heaps of different versions of 'pirates'.. digital, somali, historical. Then there are people like Captain Dan & The Scurvy Crew for instance :)

Finally, I be default can never be a 'true' ninja. For one thing, I chose 'artist/shaman/healer' in this life over that of the warrior. Also, I have so many little stupid physical issues, I couldn't really be stealthy, with wheezy asthma, clicky ankles, blah blah blah lol. But, I shall always be a 'ninja in training' and that's kind of fun :) at least being honest, will never be a master or even just a plain old regular ninja, have to specify the trainee bit hehe. Also, anyone that either a) has ninja in their name or b) claims to be a ninja, can clearly NOT be a ninja, since one of the main points of being a ninja is disguise and not revealing your identity or lair/ninja house. So once you say you are a ninja, you can't actually be one :) also I loved Last Ninja early on and used that for a bunch of website handles, but found a producer already with the name.. so decided to go with Ninja Gaijin for my music production. So i'm a music game playing ninja, that's not much of a ninja but it's good to have the training, almost got mugged last week and used misdirection and some other elements of ninja psychological techniques to diffuse the situation, rather than inflate it to violence. It reminded me how glad I am I had all the training I did and how I long for more. I keep practicing at home. I ride my bike and dance a lot too so I get some exercise at least. I like to think my music represents the sounds of ninjas sparring and/or playing video games about ninjas. http://soundcloud.com/ninja-gaijin

It makes me sad that ninja weapons are pretty much entirely illegal in Australia, even for martial arts training purposes, without heavy license fees and 2 yearly renewal and need to be a licensed sensai running a dojo or something..very lame and now don't see much weapons training around. Which is lame for a ninja at least..

p.p.s. and I'm actually trying to play less games than ever.. it's a bit of an addiction since the mid 80s.. along with the internet since 95. So I am trying to focus on my health rather than playing games... which means I have about a zillion games to catch up on.

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such a big post!

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I love to chat about ninja :) :) and I am a type ninja, typeracer.com ftw :) :) I type way too fast

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I have a black belt in Tae Bo.

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What about a 3rd dan in Zumba? :)

My dream dancing is a bunch of people, padded like ice hockey players and with helmets on, then combining slam dancing/moshing, skanking, break-dancing and capoeira. So everyone would pinging around on their heads and bouncing off each other like in a pinball machine.

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I'm gonna be the Hokage.

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You're such a jackass.

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I practiced a few years Wado Ryu and a little Shotokan(A ninja is nothing compared with a shotokan master.I trained with a Serbian European champion and to be honest that guy could kill a man with a punch...Shotokan is very dangerous) and thats it about me...no ninja stuff(but im digital ninja master..hehe)

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[Practitioner of some martial art I don't do] is nothing compared to [martial arts I do]

This kind of BS is what gives Martial Arts as a whole a bad name.

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Well...maybe I exaggerated...but to say this is what gives Martial Arts a whole bad name is stupid....

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Well, i might have exaggerated a bit myself ;)

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Psh, my Choy Li Fut could destroy your Shotakan! Seriously, my Sifu could kill a man with a punch!

Dude, a 2 year old can kill a man with a punch, we're extremely fragile creatures.

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Well... if its a good placed punch you can kill someone..but the ideea was other...I was referring to the strenght of that man peer total...And please leet me with that kung-fu stuff(only for movies...)

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There are a few death blows you can do. All scary but should be learned, at least the principles behind them, in order to AVOID doing them, unless under the worst circumstances and only option to preserve your life. There is bridge of nose/cartilage 'king hit' to push up into brain, dim mak heart hit to compress rib cage and stop heart beating (inverse CPR), sternum (I think that's what it's called) - the bit just under where your ribs finish at the front in the middle, pushing up into organ from a knee to the lower ribs. There are a bunch of one hit kills.

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"Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." –Bruce Lee

Yes, only for movies.

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I've taken Aikido. A friend of mine studies Ninjutsu from an Israeli guy who live about an hour and a half away from us

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I really want to do Aikido, I have heard wonderful things.. especially that I have some physical problems, I think it would be very useful for when I can't do 'hard' styles/attacks..

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i can do those stares they make with contacts in nurutu for more than 20 minutes

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I have to watch this show I think :) or read the manga :)

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I'm pretty good at Taekwondo.

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It was funny going from tai kwon do to ninja, the sensai said they were 'chalk and cheese' but I think that is an overstatement considering they both have very similar core moves.. just ninja goes a lot further!!

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I practice Kamasutra

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Yeah, you were awesome yesterday :*

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And today, and tomorrow.

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My ex said that the guy before me was weird shapeshifter guy after doing weird sex chanting shit. Tantric sex weirdness. But a good martial artist should be limber, have good stamina and endurance. And therefore should be half good at least in bed :)

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I'm sorry to say it, but using ninjutsu as a name for a "modern delta force/freerunning style" is more bothering than digital ninjutsu. At least when it's used in a digital way everybody understands it's not real, but 'modern ninjas' seems to believe they actually practice true ninjutsu, gah.

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Well arguably delta force, pathfinders and other elite police and military counter-terrorist units are the equivalent of modern ninjas, doing covert/black operations and using the sorts of broad and diverse range of skillsets and guerrilla tactics that ninjas were the first to ever pioneer. I mean, the Romans did some great stuff with tactics, there have been other guerrilla style military actions prior to the ninjas in history, but the ninjas really did it best, for a very long time. Counter-terrorist trained officers and soldiers are really the most similar thing we have to ninjas in the modern age... working actively that is, apart from: the actual secret societies in Japan and Asia which still employ authentic, Japanese ninjas (from what I have heard..still real killers) and those that train and teach the skills publicly, particularly the last Japanese grand master alive. As for free-running, it is to me a great way to incorporate modern environments into training for martial arts. Many martial arts are based on knowledge which is sometimes centuries or older. I think incorporation of freerunning/parkour techniques into the regime of a 'ninja in training' is not a bad idea personally.. I honestly would NEVER claim to be something I'm not, I will never be a 'true ninja', or practice 'true ninjutsu'. Unless I somehow was lucky enough to train under the publicly known Japanese grand master, even then it would be a contemporary version which incorporates modern weapons and tactics (as it should and active ninjas would, using whatever tools are necessary to complete the task). I am personally not seeking for 'true original ninjutsu'. I also accept my former school has gone REALLY lame.. http://www.khninja.com/ . lots of things have gone wrong with them in the 9 years since I last trained.. and were never authentic to begin with. I call it 'Australianised ninjutsu' haha. Because good ol' Kev's given you the keys. Not that he's that bad but it looks a bit kiddy from their recent photos and ever since weapon training got thrown out. There are other schools, more authentic dojos around my city, but I want to try some new styles soon.. I'll list them soon, there are so many unique styles which fascinate me and I want to dabble in..

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Well, I agree with you that most of the stealth and diversion techniques resemble that old teaching. But it's only a resemblance. Delta force is Delta force, they're pros in what they're doing, but when a person with those skills starts running around with a katana calling themselves a ninja, that's somewhat ridiculous. One had to be born a ninja, in a family where it was a secret practice passed through generations. They began their training since early childhood. I remember reading that their parents rocked a cradle with a few-months-old baby so hard that it hit the walls, all in order for the baby to learn to take a fetal position and block to avoid damage. The child cried at first, but after some time they stopped being afraid. By the age of 2 they learned to ride a horse, by 3 they learned to throw darts etc. They were born and raised as fighters and survivors, this was their way of life and their purpose, and by 25 they became killing machines only matched by samurai in a group of 5 or so.
So it wasn't just about tactics or technique (there wasn't even a single discipline for what they learned), it was about the way of life. Unlike other martial arts, it wasn't just a display of dedication, it was a necessity. How can one learn that?
But that aside, I do agree that a mix of various techniques works best in practice nowadays, and it's great that you want to explore many of them. Going the Bruce Lee way. :)
Cheers.

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Oh yes I agree about 'true' ninjas, calling a delta force a ninja is not true to the original ninja.. but it is more appropriate than a hacker/cracker imo, to be compared :) but it is ok to reuse names for new things, I just wanted to poke fun a little at the term 'ninja' being applied to geeks like us :)

It would be especially funny if that someone running around with katana when ninja used ninjato :)

I have heard stories of Japanese families which have found their grandfather's contract to work as a ninja, from the turn of last century, after they passed away and inherited their stuff. So yes I agree it is a family thing and ultimate secrecy.

As for the way of life, I totally dedicate myself to this. Training in all aspects. I mostly try to use 'video games' as a tool, for tactical or strategic training. Was a bit inspired ever since reading Orson Scott Card's 'Ender's Game'. I feel as if my life is one of the warrior's path, but it is not meant to be in this incarnation. So I feel instead I am more called towards the helping side, shamanism, rather than martial arts/ninja. Especially that I would be the most asthmatically-wheezy, ankle-clicky and non-stealthy ninja ever, hahaha.

I love the fact that ninja is a holistic thing..teaching physiotherapy for instance, in order to ease pain for other ninja in your clan or yourself, but equally in balance learning manipulation in order to kill or maim. Equally, ninja poisons were a big part, but also antidotes for yourself, as well as medicine and healing of yourself, through herbs and other potions as well.. it was an entire way of existence aimed at being the ultimate / most effective warriors with the most diverse range of skills and subsets of those skills.

Thanks, I think it is best too - I like how Sambo was derived from all the different wrestling and fighting styles from around the former USSR region and nearby regions like Mongolia.. I like that ninja also has no icon or figurehead, it is rooted in practicality :)

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Fancy pants!?

I'll have you know that my pants are quite plain. Good day, sir!

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hee hee hee matt over gloss any day

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Did Krav Maga several years ago, but once i started Aikido i let go of it pretty much instantly.

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Krav Maga and things like Systema are good adjuncts in my opinion to a main martial art form or training.. it adds a lot to current skills and strength, but I think it is perhaps not so useful for those which do not have a previous background in martial arts. Otherwise it is a bit quick and dirty style, effective and simple and easy to remember with body reflexes.. but it's a very specific style for certain things, and not often I hope you will need to try to do a gun disarm etc!!! I would love to learn a little though.. to pick and choose some things to add to my repertoire :)

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The disarms are rather interesting and technical, though there are so many variations which in the end are a bit unnessesary, it's an interesting thing to do, though ironically the term "self-defense" is badly used, considering that with Krav, the term "the best offense is a good defense" aptly applies here.

Aikido is what i learnt to love in a very short time, compared to Krav Maga it's a very delicate art, which requires a lot of finesse and precision, the whole concept of Aikido is great, whether it's applied to the martial art itself or life.

The combination of Krav Maga and Aikido is something actually doable, several initiators for Krav Maga (specially the "silent" ones) are pretty good and can be blended in with Aikido's techniques; granted you don't try to apply this in a controlled Randori, as you'll likely get your ass whooped, but in a real life situation it can be VERY useful.

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wing-chun kung-fu for me :)

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It's so fast, I would like to try some Kung Fu or Thai kickboxing for strength and speed..I think might be hard to unlearn some stuff after so much karate/tai kwon do though, for me!!

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