Just a moment ago, games that are "banned" or whatever because Valve cuts tie with developers are no longer detected by Steam API. A prime example is that (almost) all Digital Homicide games are no longer detected as owned.

This is not a per-app change, but rather a system-wide change, so if you own some games made by other developers that are "banned" then Steam API will also no longer detect them. Not sure if this is intentional and why Valve would do this, but surely this will change a lot of things.

What this could mean in SG:

  • for now, if you have won some game before and the game's developer has since been banned or otherwise cut business relationship with Valve, you will show as having not activated the game
  • SGTools check will fail before this mass-whitelist of games gets added, if you have won such games
  • it can be hard to check ownership of such games won from here, either from giveaway creator or from support (Support may receive tickets saying the winner didn't activate these games, but in fact they did, it's just not showing up in the API)
  • for the long term you may be able to enter giveaways for these games and win them multiple times (and get suspended for breaking the rules, of course)

I don't have a complete list of what games are affected, since there are too many. This means if SGTools wants to update their whitelist it can be a non-trivial process.

Also, your profile's game count may have changed, depending on how many such games you have in your account.


For example, I own Barbie and Her Sisters Puppy Rescue (appid: 396390, you won't be able to see that I own this game unless I am on your friends list on Steam and you go to the Friends that Play page of this game), and if you check with Steam API you won't be able to find 396390 as my owned appid.

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what the ...... I show 2 not activated wins. I use SGTools all the time and my account is clean. But not now. This sucks. Am I now locked out out all SGTool GAs? I just tried a couple that have basic rules and it let me in. Or is there a delay before it detects this and tomorrow I will find myself locked out though no fault of mine.

Where are you guys seeing how many have been removed from your account. That filter shows zero for me but I'm showing 2 not activated wins and I do have that log turned on within ITAD.. Or is it again just a mater of time till it checks my account ans see this and reports it.

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I'm sure SGtools will get updated soon to whitelist these games. It's only a temporary headache.

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Can't view the achievement pages on them either. I don't understand why Valve does half the things they do.

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gee, that's shit

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Let's say if i delete that games from my account, do they still effect Avg. Game Completion Rate?

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Nope.

According to Steam:
"Removed products will not be automatically uninstalled nor will achievements and playtime be removed from your profile."

:3

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A game doesn't effect your average until you earn an achievement, once you have earned an achievement it will permenantly effect your average even if you remove the game and/or achievement.

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Oh, so idled games don't count?

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No

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Thanks for the answers. o/

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OK, is it possible this is an error on Valve's end? Because the only game that SGTools thinks I haven't activated is a game called Pressure, which was removed from the Steam store but not because Valve cut ties with the developer - it's because their new game, Pressure Overdrive, replaced the old game, which they didn't want to sell any more. (And they didn't upgrade us. Hmph.)

Pressure Overdrive is in the store and the dev is an active one. But Pressure is not detected by SGTools as activated.

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interesting, though cards for Pressure are also unsellable

the short story is that we cut all business ties with Topware and there has been a lawsuit in which we were able to reclaim the distribution rights for Pressure.

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Is that normal when a game is removed? I'm asking for real, because I don't know.

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just edited, special case

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Ha! And the Pressure demo is still active, just not the game.

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able to enter giveaways for these games and win them multiple times

SG could block from entering won games by itself, would stop DLC issues too, but yeah...

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I'm just here for all the "omg the sky is falling!" comments.
I'm not disappointed.

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-1

also -1 to your library xD

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Go wash your feet.
Oh, and keep track of my game count, will ya?

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Don't spam me. Just write it on the dirt floor of your hut and tell me later.

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You didn't reply to everyone on your LGBT Month thread.
Go do that for post count.

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no way, someone could end up suspended for what they said there.

probably me as usual πŸ‘Œ

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On the other hand you might be psychic, Mully. Cause Valve just did a bunch of <redacted> :P

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oh the magic word, i heard it translated as "4 weeks off" for some πŸ‘Œ

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Shoddy translation system needs a humor detection upgrade.

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β™«let the sky fallβ™«

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That's bullshit, I lost something around 100 games lol

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Steam has done a great job at breaking all the features people like about steam. Soon its gonna be 9.99 a month just to login and play your games at this rate.

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wait wait wait wait wait...

am i reading this right?

BARBIE GOT REMOVED FROM STEAM?!

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yes earlier this year

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/RemGC/discussions/2/144512518755366666/

i didnt update the list with junes changes yet

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This is called theft. Per digital, consumer and mercantile laws this is illegal. That's like going to your house and forcibly taking back the games no longer being edited without telling you. Steam as the platform you get the licence of use to access a game you bought through their server has the responsibility of providing with with access to what you paid for.

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Good news, time to clear out the garbage.

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BLAEO sync informs me that 10 games are 'missing' from my library.

Would've been more, but I already cleared out the Digital Homicide mess during spring.

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Suggesting rename to: Steam API no longer reports games by banned devs as owned

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Not all the games were from banned devs, some were from not having a licence to Steam anymore.

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Still more clear and to the point than the current title.

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Really? "cut business relationship (with) developer" seems more fitting than "banned devs", since it counts not only banned devs but also devs that stopped working with Steam and so their games were affected too.

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Look the English in the title pretty much sucks. If you're interested in arguing go bother someone else.

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First they add the mobile authenticator and the 7 days ban in market, later they screw the gifting policy and now that.

3 actions, looks like we will have Half Life 3 very soon.

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you think valve still makes games? why would then need to do that when market makes them tons of money.

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Does Portal 2 the last game valve did ? If yes, that's 5 years ago wow

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Na CSGO on august 2012 and Dota 2 on jully 2013. Also Portal 2 was 6 years ago. And three valve VR games are coming soon (in valve time).

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So, one too many fucking bullshit, how do we mount a class action in Europe?

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A class action for what? It sounds like people can still access those games that were "removed." It's just that others can't tell when you're playing or that you own it.

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Pasting the list I just stole (Cae)

467530 .atorb.
361660 Accidental Runner
526270 Adventurous Life
581280 Anime! Oi history!
392870 Attrition: Nuclear Domination
506170 Ballanced
396390 Barbie and Her Sisters Puppy Rescue
462060 Base Squad 49
335080 Biology Battle
521190 bOllO
543420 Catacomb Explorers
239410 Catan
290710 Cloud Chamber
360130 Cloud Knights
405040 Cold Dreams
562650 Cube Master
581690 Cube Master: Light Adventure
344750 Deadly Profits
431000 DEFENDERS
399700 DΓ©sirΓ©
388870 Devils Share
268830 Doctor Who: The Adventure Games
217080 Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock
356330 Dragomon Hunter
33440 Driver San Francisco
324450 Earth Under Siege
475060 Electric Zombies
594210 Evergrow
290410 Falling Skies: The Game
500930 Football VR
314700 Forsaken Uprising
36620 Forsaken World
392050 Galactic Hitman
581050 Galaxy in eclipse
486340 Gnarltoof's Revenge
572870 Gotham Gangsta
374140 Gravity Core - Braintwisting Space Odyssey
568650 Hello From Indiana
568890 Its your last chance in new school
586250 IVAN vs NAZI ZOMBIES
458900 Julai
540120 K-Rolik
575730 KEK Story
457940 Krog Wars
467560 Lands Of Devastation
463620 Last Survivor
415490 Lemurzin
596600 Little ALLIGATOR
488720 LOKA - League of keepers Allysium
581860 Luci:Horror Story
383030 Medieval Mercs
512200 Metal Carnage
473630 Mini Attack Submarine
396400 Monster High: New Ghoul in School
540050 Nature's Wrath VR
581350 Nicolay's Adventure
546450 North Side
508220 Office Freakout
582480 Oldschool tennis
407740 Operation: Global Shield
407750 Paranormal Psychosis
474870 Ping Ping
567940 Piximalism
485700 Platformica
210150 Pole Position 2012
224220 Pressure
378020 Protocol
585720 Purple Hills
442110 PWI
250240 Racing Manager 2014
473490 Rapid Squirrel
253130 Rescue: Everyday Heroes
382970 RISK - The game of Global Domination - The Officia...
483260 Rover The Dragonslayer
360760 Run and Fire
452780 RuneScape: Idle Adventures
403130 SCRABBLE: The Classic Word Game - Official 2016 Ed...
645810 Secret Doctrine
501720 Sekwere
448130 Sharf
412720 SMASH+GRAB
547810 Spacewing VR
457930 Starship: Nova Strike
364110 Swordsman
444180 Techwars Online
373110 Temper Tantrum
440260 Temporal Temple
491250 The Decimation of Olarath
503530 The Fallen Kingdom
468050 The Last Time
409310 The Rollingball's Melody
329950 The Slaughtering Grounds
616910 The Zombiest Adventures In The Perverted Age of En...
581680 To the home
603920 Trigger Happy Shooting
209710 War of the Immortals
294120 Warhammer 40,000: Carnage Champions
445730 Watch paint dry
562710 Western Adventure
330110 Wild Frontera
473620 Winged Knights: Penetration
473650 Withering Kingdom: Arcane War
516230 Withering Kingdom: Flurry Of Arrows
473640 Wyatt Derp
473580 Wyatt Derp 2: Peacekeeper
235760 Young Justice: Legacy
527570 Zi
467460 ZombieRush
481890 倧桷战 Navy Field IV

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Thanks!

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Yeah, there is even a Warhammer game in there (and Doctor Who!)! So its not just "banned" games, yeah most of them are but there is more of an explanation for it! :P

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Doctor Who was pretty bad (not as bad as DH like you said) even for a big DW fan like me, BUT - there was something good about it. Generally there were 5 episodes which originally were 5 games that got put together just for Steam release, first four were all shitty cheaply made games and were very very bad, but ep5 was totally a different game - much bigger, longer (it lkasted like 2-3 times more than episodes 1-4 combined), with actual gameplay mechanics, intresting storyline, some secrets to find etc, and ep 5 I did enjoy. Not great game, but not bad either ;) So if you can undelete it maybe do so and give a try just to episode 5 - imho this one alone was worth keeping the game.

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There's a Driver game as well, probably licensing issues?

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Ubisoft owns Driver, it's not licensed. Ubisoft just likes to remove older games from Steam.

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Thanks for the tip, I meant licensing more as in music issues, like Alan Wake recently - but I guess it's just Ubi's thing in this case.

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I own it on PS3 and Steam. It is nothing great compared to the Marvel action RPGs on consoles, but it was still worth owning. Lucky the Steam price dropped to US$3 some time last year, I got it for my library. Wouldn't ever get the DLCs on PSN though, they were much more there.

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It pretty much was a brawler. It just had teams and minor elements for leveling, so you could do custom skill set ups.

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Xmen Legends was indeed awesome. Still have my gamcube copy :P.

YJ was on a watch list since Tiny Orbit has a habit of having their games being nuked. If you don't mind paying a shit ton, you can find a copy on the usual trade sites. Or you can buy a console version for $10. :p

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Awesome, thank you very much! :D

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It's my list: pastebin
198 records. DLC included.

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Thank you! :)

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Okay, thanks.

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Here is the list, https://pastebin.com/TKtECBv5

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So Valve really is trying to clean up the store?

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rip my 1K badge -.-

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Maybe Valve hit some sort api limit they can't deal with in a sensible way? :D

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They probably just want to do away with titles that don't have store pages anymore.

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That would imply logic behind valve actions.

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I think Valve's base logic is that majority of their customers are idiots. Which might be reason behind this...

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+1

i mean, -1 game in your library 😎

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I see it more like they cba to implement sensible solutions that doesnt hit majority of customers that don't have any issues. Just to fix something that minority have problem with.

I don't relate to this specifically, don't see whats the point of removing those games from api in the first place. They can't legally remove them from libraries anyway?

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Thank ye for the info. 30 games removed from my library but none of them I won on SG. SGtools says I'm all good.

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It seems that the missing ones are the ones that were pulled by Valve, but the ones pulled by the devs/publishers are still listed. An example for both of them: Alan Wake was removed by the devs when the license expired, and is still listed, but the Doctor Who games (which were removed by Valve on request of the BBC) are no longer listed. This seems to be the common factor for all non-counting games, although I'm not 100% sure.

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Alan Wake still has store page. Don't know about rest have to check what I own.

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One curiosity: if you play 3 of these removed games in a row (the ones without achievements, like Digital Homicide garbage), your recent activity (on your profile page) will look blank.

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