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Possible if it is a GA of a Group with such a rule.
Perhaps

[Example:Group]
Playing Appreciated: Giveaways

If not?
If it is an invitation GA, it is acceptable if there is a description.

Not possible with public GA.
It was such a story.(。-Θ-。)ooO(Perhaps)

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Not possible in this group either but the winner will be kicked out if they won't play the game they've won. So one can be sure that such a situation won't happen again with this person..

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Not really, because of a bunch of black sheeps inside that fake achievements with a known program and gets approved with it. Look alone at their last page of member stats.

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Bad example group because of a bunch of black sheeps inside that fake achievements with a known program and gets approved with it.
Look alone at their last page of member stats.

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Everywhere? o_O

  • They don't care for people that use 6+ accounts at discord to cheat and sell wins. Of course such members will never do bad stuff at sg or their group.
  • They don't check the use of the, not named, program. Thats a fact or they would see that people have a achievement for level 5 before they have it for level 4 and such, obvious, stuff. Of course it give lesser obvious stuff too but enough sites to check and see the use of it.
  • They confirm that a bundle (3 games) are played with 3h playtime.
  • They don't care for the stats of their members (look at their last page of members).

Come for yourself to conclusions based on that.

A good bunch around me were in that group and left it after they realized that it is a nice idea at the paper but not really get enforced.

Join instead Playing Matters, it looks as they check their members.

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PM might potentially close soon

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From the group SG page:

We have been planning a change of mod team. However, at the moment of the old team going to rest, we still have not gathered enough group members for a new team to continue moderation duties. Group is still functioning, with increased moderation response time. We shall see how events will unfold. Group may be closed in future.

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Not sure. But recruitment is very less nevertheless. PA and PM do a very good job imo.

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Oh, thats sad :o(

It is not the right group for me but they done a good job from what i seen and i appreciated that a lot, special because i know how many work is behind it.

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I said one or 2 times before something to it. And only in the last weeks.

My example of someone using 6 Accounts to win Ga's and then sell wins (100% evidences like logged IP's and many other things), outside of sg, join then PA, i inform them about his stuff and get a "not at sg, not our thing" and "report him if he use more as one sg account" (with the knowledge that such a ticket will be handled in 1 year... or later + it is unclear if he use more as one sg account) is, when i want to help a group, not really what i expected.
Special from a group that want that Members play their wins.
I am very sure that the gifters there don't want to give their, mostly good, games to such a member.
And he is only the extremst example.

How is that connected to the group in general would i describe with a short "we don't care" acting and the other described parts from (now) ex members (i seen of all examples the group stats, approved/not approved listings and so on).
And sorry when i see after 2 mins. different things that aren't ok at that stuff then the staff of the group should be really able to see it too (or something is wrong). They have each day to do with it and i haven't.

I am no staff member in that group (and don't want to be), so not my job to point something out that is very clear to see from outside.
And after my other experiene with trying to help them, + after checking then their members stats (mostly the last 2 pages), i am not motivated to invest more of my lifetime for them because i know it will be wasted time.

I redirect people that question me about them to PM (i hope they will not close it) or make clear that they can make in our own, "fresh", group GA's with the "play your win in timeframe X" in the describtion. We don't accept each one at our group, we check if members do what they accepted (without automatic stuff because we are small) and if not we kick. On top give it other groups too that are nice (without the play your wins)
So in the end to some groups that have a eye at the members and not only rules on the paper that none enforce if needed.

Ps.: Don't get me wrong PA were better in the past. I would say because more staff members were active.

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Our group exist since a long time and get used in the last year for our Curation and the sg GA part was only a little, nice sideeffect for people that i known since a long time. All that because i wasn't able and willing to invest more time into it.
But since a few months the sg part got stronger in our discord and so i thought about how open the group a bit up without inviting all the black sheeps.
Because the people around me and mostly i are, very, known as the ones that dislike and hunt cheaters, multiaccounters, autojoiners, people that have up to 161 accounts at freebie sites to grab so many copies and rulebreakers with up to 48 not activated wins (not because deleting the games from the account), it was very clear that the group would need rules.

But with the best rules you can't filter all black sheeps. You can try your best and make the possibilities for abusing as small as possible, without harming the other members with too strict rules.

So we have as example no monthly "you must..." thing and people can join without using sg or giving something away, as long as they don't win more as a few games from the group.

And the most important thing is that we don't look only at sg. If someone use 6 accounts to grab freebies or to cheat somewhere else then he/she is the wrong for our group and will for sure not be accepted or kicked out of the group because we think that such people not cheat only at one site, they cheat everywhere when it is possible. So we don't need to caught them at each plattform/site with the hands in the moneypocket to do something against it.

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He contacted me (I am an admin of the group) and the proof was basically "trust me" with no actual proof without it and went something on about Discord too which is completely unrelated to the group therefore I see no reason for me to take any action about it.

And no, we don't tolerate faking achievements, if we find you have done that you will be banned from the group. We check them every time we approve something (together with stats and leadarboards if applicable), but we are only human we can make mistake/not notice something sometimes and if someone points out a specific case we will take a look and check and fix it if we indeed screwed up.

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You don't wanted to see the evidences because of "not at sg, we don't care".
So have fun with that quality member that is banned at ~20 discord servers, over 20 steam groups, a GA bot that is used at over 1k discord servers. Of course only because they all trusted my word :-D

[EDIT]: Don't get me wrong. It is your thing how you handle your group but don't expect that i recommend your group to others if i think it is wrong handled in different ways and it give better alternatives (as example PM).

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Yes... because whats going on in Discord is not related to the group in any way, shape or form. And I told you that.

And I never said you should recommend it to anyone? All I wanted to do is to make a couple things clear to Tovstonoh. Thats why my reply is to them and not you. You are entitled to your own option about it.

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I just find it funny, because I probably annoyed a decent amount of people over the past couple of years asking for screenshots/additional proof to actually confirm something was played properly every time I found something weird/inconsistent. Or annoyed friends who played the game in the past to confirm things from me. Hell, I have had admins and friends play games they owned for me so I could confirm stuff (cheers guys! <3 and I guess this is exactly what you are talking when you say supporting each other).

I just want people to know to please actually come and contact us if they ever spot anything wrong. We don't bite and actually listen, we just need to know exactly what is wrong and it needs to be related to the group.

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It's been a long story away from the question, but one thing that seems to be helpful.
Use a command like this to check the activity status of the group before joining.

[Example]

Groups can now be searched by their Steam ID. For example,
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/group/103582791432125620

This is an advantageous technique when you want to carefully consider the Group.

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No, but you can simply refuse to give them the game and let them mark it as "not received".

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And, one question, does the winner get notified if I haven't sent the key but they have won?

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Yes.

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Yes, when they win they will receive an email and a red notification on the site. After 1 week of not receiving the gift, they can mark it as not received.

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Be careful though. Deliberately not delivering gifts is against the spirit and the rules of this site. If you do not deliver a gift it can be seen as a fake giveaway. If you accumulate too many of those you will receive a suspension from this site.

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I have sent the key waiting for him to mark as received or not received...

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That is not very honest.
He created the ga and he should honor it.

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Of course, and I agree with you. There is a social contract in place. I was simply offering a solution if they really don't want to give the game to a certain winner.

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This could lead to ban for fake giveaway. At least I hope it would.

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Be a man and send the game. You made the ga and the person won it honestly. You should honor the choices you made when you created that ga. Be it public with no restrictions or whatever.
If you don't want that person to win another one of your games then blacklist the person after you kept your word/delivered the game you promised and that person marked as received.

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I was just curious lol... Of course, they have rightly won and I did send the key to them.

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No, you were not just curious. You wanted that option to be possible and would do it if the answer was yes, even though the winner has no fault in it.
What you did was judge someone else based on your assumptions. If you won a ga for a game you wanted and the person decided not to give you the game because [and I quote]: 'they don't think you will play it', I bet you would be upset.
What you should do more is ponder about things before you take action and then honor them after you do.

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Okay, thanks for the guidance. I will keep that in mind. Let's hope that that the winner will appreciate the GA

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the more important question: can i request a new winner, if he is unlikely to idle the game for cardZ?

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Can I request a new winner if I suspect the guy who won it is a vegan?
Can I request a new winner if I think the guy who won it puts pineapple on pizza?

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Closed 3 years ago by Hephan.