Should I?
Not worth emptying the wallet imo. You'll pay a premium for converting the wallet into cash, not worth the exchange rate loss.
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yeah that's the premium i was referring to. buying games now compared to them on sale would be a little loss. Buying keys right now, and then converting them back into wallet nets you a loss of a few percent due to the CSGO/TF tax thingy. not worth the exchange rate loss i think.
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Maybe saving the keys for trading, and buying games on sale now...
I don't know what to do... :(
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Does Steam have regional prices for Argentina? Or will it after conversion?
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i think it most proabably will have regional prices, and i hope so, prices here are ludicrous compared to what brasil has, with luck we will have cheaper games and with even more luck some new payment methods (i dont have a credit card so i dont usually buy directly trough steam but through "resellers")
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I think currency conversion is a good step towards regional pricing.
Of course, if you have a high inflation rate, having Pesos instead of Dollars can be a problem, if you plan to keep them in the wallet for a very long time.
There shouldn't be a problem with conversion, you should be able to buy almost the same things after that (if there aren't strange taxes or what not), maybe even more if they lower prices, if you don't wait for inflation to erode your money. Same thing for real money, when there's inflation, you don't want to keep your savings under the bed (same as Steam wallet).
But, still, I see people going crazy for devaluation or inflation even if they only have some spare change (don't know if this is the case).
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Local taxes may apply (they are charging Netflix in the near future), but I don't think it will be prior the winter sales. Towards inflation, it's high. This year we had almost 30% of a projected 17% So, the government doesn't know what they're doing.
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Usually, in industrialised countries, inflation is created by people spending money. People spend money because they have it. Or by government "printing" too much money (that goes to citizens who spend it). I see here that the devaluation of the Peso towards the Dollar has been of about 15%. If there was an inflation of 30% as you say, then you should be a bit richer than before towards foreign countries. I don't know, however, if your salary grew by about 30%.
In Italy, during the 70s and 80s, there was an inflation rate of 10-20% or more every year, and it was a time of great economical growth and great private savings (public debt rose a lot in the 80s but for another reason). Many people bought a second, a third house, expanded their activities, their factories. Nobody cared about inflation, because there was the indexation for salaries and pensions. Only those who stupidly kept their savings in places with no (or low) interest rate, lost (a lot of) money.
Just, please, don't think locking exchange rate with other countries will work. Your country had a bad experience less than 20 years ago and my country is experiencing right now.
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Salaries are frozen, sadly. And they are pushing a laboral law change that will change things for worse.
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Then why is there a so high inflation? Devaluation doesn't explain inflation even if you had to import everything. Is the government printing too much instead of using public debt (or to reduce it)? I can't find data because everything is expressed in USD and that doesn't really help.
Yes, when someone hardly pushes for a law change, usually there's some trick. They sell it as a good thing but hide or even don't consider the bad things, that people will only face after a while.
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Because due to very bad economic decisions, we are in a period of stagflation.
This is from an article in Forbes:
"The Argentine economy is facing a period of economic stagnation. Annual inflation is hovering around 40% and continues to erode individual purchasing power, spurring a meaningful drop in consumption levels. Poverty levels have risen persistently since Macri assumed office. In light of these challenging circumstances, an economic rebound has become a major priority for the Macri administration. On that front, Macri is seeking to recover undeclared assets held both at home and abroad via a tax amnesty law, as well as to create a business environment that attracts foreign direct investment across industries desperately in need of foreign capital.
Macri’s political adversaries charge that his market-friendly policies are only designed to benefit the business community, large multinationals and the wealthiest elements of the agricultural sector. Given the economic and social challenges noted above, these assertions have gained traction with elements of the population as fiscal austerity rarely benefits the poor and disenfranchised "
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The thing is, we keep increasing our international debt for no reason because some politics decided to keep buying things from outside instead of fomenting national industry, just to "help" some friends of them. They also keep increasing taxes and all, but keep missusing the government funds (we can't see where all the money goes but it isn't helping the economy because it isn't being used as it is supposed to be).
We had a similar situation back in 2001 that ended in a heavy economic crisis, and given similar factors, it appears like it will happen again eventually.
Edit: Also what @popocho said.
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"the government doesn't know what they're doing". I know what's like popocho. It just gets worse everyday.
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It get's worse. All my good thoughs to brazil too, you are having a really bad time. And we are heading towards the same destiny.-
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We don't know if there'll be regional prices. Maybe yes. Maybe not. Maybe game dependant.
Card exchange however, considering what people on the forums says; currency changes cheapened card value. Good for card buyers, but bad for card sellers.
But giving the fact that no change that valve made, was good to the average Joe, I'm in damage control here. Which path has less loses. I'm assuming that we will lose something.
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No creo que valga la pena, los precios regionales van a ser mas bajos y aun si la taza de conversion que usen no es buena para nosotros (cosa que no creo) nos va a seguir conveniendo
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Maybe I am missing something, but isn't this good for you?
Taking Brazil as an example, a BRL is worh 0.31 USD at the time I'm writing. Regional prices, though, are (on average, looking around the store) a lot lower than the corresponding change.
As an example, Dishonored 2 is $39.99, but only R$89.99, which is around $27.
So if they apply a similar regional difference as Brazil has, the purchasing power of your money will increase of around a third.
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Could be. Do you have numbers from other countries? Those who weren't on the happy side of currency change.
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Googling I found this website, SteamPrices, which allows you to compare whatever countries you want.
Regional pricing is/should be based on the cost of living. The goal of a publisher is to maximize sales. So if you live in a country where salaries are lower than the US, the price will be less (suppose you make the equivalent of $500 a month - a $50 game is a bigger burden than it is for someone who makes $2500, so it will sell much less, lowering total profits). This in general is the idea. But they also might charge more if the country doesn't bring in more sales anyway. It's pretty complex.
Your best bet is to compare to a SA country with a similar economic condition and population size.
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Usually that logic is not applied on our country, in fact, if we buy games trough steam today we are buying the games at half of the price if you buy in psychical format in our country. Hopefully that business mechanic doesn't move to steam in our country, but... we will know in 2 days.
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Hola.
Es algo que nadie sabe hasta que no suceda.
Lo que he visto es que para la mayoría de regiones latinoamericanas, cuando se hizo la conversión salimos favorecidos. En mi caso, (Colombia) los precios en muchos casos son mas bajos que los de la tienda americana (exceptuando ciertos publishers como activision y bethesda, lol)
Steam DB es tu amigo, ahí puedes mirar juego por juego cuanto vale en cada región y lo mejor, te indica la diferencia entre tiendas con %.
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Si. En mi caso estoy encerrado entre dos alternativas. Los precios en Chile son mucho màs caros, y los precios en brasil mucho más baratos... ¿Qué economía será la que más se parezca a la nuestra según steam?
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es una lotería, todo depende del developer, Acá en Chile hay juegos más baratos que en US, pero ciertos juegos AAA como los de bethesda o activision empiezan caros, aunque después igual bajan, bueno menos los de activision
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Y que onda comprar algunos juegos y después hacer el refund en caso que sean más caros? Estaba pensando en comprarme el deadpool antes de que lo saquen.
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bueno si haces refund te devuelven lo que gastaste nomas, pero ya convertido al ARS
Lo del deadpool yo creo que le van a quitar la oferta antes de que agreguen las nuevas monedas a steam, por esto, pero ni idea
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Es hasta el 16.
¡PROMOCIÓN ESPECIAL! La oferta finaliza el 16 noviembre
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Hay otro problema GRAVE además de algunos precios... Quitaron paypal de la lista de formas de pago -.-
Agregaron rapipago y pagofacil lo bueno, por otro lado.
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Ya saben. No confíen en que nada nos vaya a beneficiar nunca, sobre todo con el equipo económico que tenemos ahora. Es posible que algunos precios ahora estén un poco más baratos, pero arruinaron además la venta de cromos. No valen nada de nada, algunos menos incluso que los dos centavos que solían pagar los peores.
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Lo que ganabas vendiendo cromos, te lo ahorras cuando compras juegos por 10 o 20 dolares menos de lo que costaba antes. Seguramente en el futuro nos vaya peor (con los impuestos nuevos, el peso que se devaloriza, etc), pero por ahora esta todo bastante bien.
Quitando claro precios locos como el Assassins nuevo.
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No se. Nunca compré ningún AAA, sin un descuento fuerte. Vamos a ver como va, pero no tengo mucha fe.
Igualmente, según mi cálculo el valor de los cromos se redujo a la mitad en la mayoría de los casos. El valor de los juegos, se redujo en un porcentaje mucho menor.
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No pongo las manos en el fuego al decir esto, pero es posible que lo vuelvan a poner, todavía no hay nada definido. Recien hace 1 hora que hicieron el cambio este.
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Puede ser, en el mercado mis pedidos de compra están en dólares y la mitad de juegos de mi wishlist no los puedo comprar. :/
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Recién vi eso, espero que vuelvan a ponerlo antes de la próxima sale, no es que me guste mucho poner los datos de la tarjeta directo sin paypal de por medio :/
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Después de casi 5 años en Steam va a estar dificil acostumbrarse a usar AR$ en vez de U$D.
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Is this thread a joke?
Jajaja
USD>Peso every single day since the year 2000 - everyone knows that!
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Oh, boy. Looks like it's time to take a few vacations on Paraguay, Urugay, Bolivia, Chile; and buy a few dollars. And since we're there, a few cellphones to sell them in Argentina, just to make a little profit.
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Don't.
If your country's economy is awful, then prices will be cheaper. if not, you can always buy games somewhere outside steam. but yeah, it will most likely be cheaper for you, just be aware of region lock.
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Prices will probably be cheaper, but his wallet for example has 20 U$, maybe in ARG Peso will be equivalent to 17, or 18 dolares....
I lost a little wallet when they changed dollars to CLP, no much but a little. (Of course it compensates with prices drops in the store)
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es un poco barato, ni hablar de las ofertas que se viene.
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Todavía no hay nada demasiado espectacular. Veremos
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por ejemplo el Witcher 40 USD y en Argentina 450 ...27usd, osea la mitad pero bueno acuerdo de cada desarrollador pone el precio
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Eso para precios base. En lo particular jamás compré ningún juego sin descuento. Esta es una movida para que la gente pague más full price.
No que decir que Witcher con el último descuento lo conseguias a 12 en GOG
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En casi toda latinoamerica los precios son mas baratos... personalmente compraria llaves, pq seguro tu wallet va a bajar proporcionalmente a lo que bajen los precios de steam. Con las llaves te aseguras de al menos conservar el mismo valor con un pérdida pequeña.
En todo caso, igual es posible que el cambio que de steam sea favorable y que al final termines con lo que seria más plata que los dolares... pero ahi vas a tener que evaluar el costo de asumir ese riesgo
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As always, I have a considerable amount of dollars in my wallet waiting for the winter sale. But steam will change my currency in a couple of days.
Considering the awful economy of my country, I'm afraid that maybe I should empty my wallet before the adjust to the local currency.
What do you think? Other regions with currency changes always had better prices after the change?
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