That's very immature of her but some people are called "Avoidants" and always want to feel very independent not relying on anyone. So if she got too close to you or she feelt you were any clingly she would block you right away. Let me help you :)
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replying to ur own post does this weird bug where it completely eliminates the notification to the person who you replied to ---- and/or the thread creator
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Nah, it's all about that right nostril. Her right, not ours.
P.S. I'm done spamming your messages for now, I'm off to play a game, or eat, or watch anime, or... something else, who knows?
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I think you're reacting a little bit too harshly. Maybe she just wasn't comfortable with having contact with you anymore or just needed some time to breath with her closer friends? You don't know what's going on in her life.
I'm sorry that you feel hurt, but if you can now talk about her like that how real was that relationship anyway? I had plenty of online people who would just use me as their vent person and then ignore me when I needed to talk to them.
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Honestly? Gave her time to get her shit together, because I wasn't sure what's going on. But the way she acted in the end... lets say I don't actually have good views towards liars to have positive words to say towards them. And it actually makes me feel better when I get to share my emotions from time to time.
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It's not too harsh to expect basic consideration, much less when they go as far as making promises not to be like people in your past.
Even if she was randomly uncomfortable with being in contact any more, completely severing someone without a word is a bit of a douche move. Even if you have 'reasons' it doesn't excuse completely cold shouldering someone unless some kind of conflict or division went down, especially after you explicitly tell someone you understand how it feels and you're not the kind of person to do it.
I wonder exactly what happened during that CS:GO session...
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Sorry to hear this. I hate to sound pessimistic, but there will be people in life you will encounter like that. Most likely, she won't be the last one either. The goal here, I believe, is to provide the best friendship you can to those people and try not to let some actions they make effect you in a negative way. I've gained and lost friends throughout life, and dwelling on it will only hurt you, while she has most likely moved on from it.
With that said though, you will encounter great people in life and foster great friendships with those people. Don't dwell on the hurt from the past relationships, but focus on building on the good ones.
Sorry to go all Dr. Phil on ya! Wishing you the best of luck Kapy. Stay strong my friend!
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Starting to think my old phycology teacher was right. The only friend a person like me can trust would be my self conscious, as it's like a different person and the same time would never betray me. Ehhh... should stop getting baited from people who act like they care.
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My self-conscious betrays me all the time, or maybe it doesn't betray me, but he's not a friend, he's a jerk and I hate him... Either way, it doesn't matter. ArchiBot will never betray me, unless you count !roulette, in which case I have him betray me all the time. ;)
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The problem is, it's hard to guess online (and often in real life too), if that person indeed wants to be your friend or is just polite/friendly, but doesn't want to have a real relationship with you (not talking about romanic relationships only). Perhaps she made that promise because she believed that in that moment you needed it and she felt the desire to help. Maybe, simply out of humanity, she wanted to cheer you up, but was never really attached to you and, finally, decided to just cut contact. It might have been unwise to make promises, but you can't blame people for not being always perfect and doing the right thing the right way. WIthout knowing the full sotry, it's really hard to say that there is somebody at fault. Sometimes things just don't work out.
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I agree, but not giving input about it after, it's just being a coward. I had lots of those situations in my teen years (where lots of drama tend to happen for some reason). It's annoying and sad. If you have an issue with someone, just have the respect and maturity to tell them.
Nothing there to blame, except lack of explanation.
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I don't know. If I just randomly chat with somebody and they, for some reason, become unpleasant to me, I don't feel I owe them a thirty page essay about why and I'm simply not going to bother. I believe an explanation is proper only if there is already a relationship or if your act somehow influences the other person's life. Even if we have had some deep conversation at times, it doesn't mean we are now friends, you can have those with stranegrs too. I fear I might be biased though, the story the OP told, actually, made me remember when a person added me as "friend", gave me a lot of unwanted gifts and then started heavily hitting on me and making demands. At that point I just cut them off. I know it's very unlikely OP is somehow at fault in this case, but I still think explanations are not always owed.
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I do agree explanations aren't always owed, such as your case and several others including obviously wrong behavior, however on these cases, you have to keep in mind the emotional state of another, on that case I speak of a more recent personal experience. Even If I have no relationship whatsoever with someone, if that person dislikes me, it affects me, I won't stuck with it for a long time, but sometimes that'll strike my thoughts about the reasons that could possibly lead to that and that can be emotionally bad.
e.g. Even the shallow behavior of just saying "hi" to each other, I'm saying shallow on the premise that the friendly behavior is solely based on that, can provoke bad emotional reactions if one of the involved starts ignoring the other without explanation
Overall, It's hard to determine the "wrong or right" in these situations, since there is always two sides, but usually, I always say communication is the key
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Yeah, but a random chat with a random person who is unpleasant to you is a far cry from an already established online friend who you've been chatting with for weeks, and there was no sudden conflict.
In the example you cite of that person trying to buy your affection and being really heavy-handed, it's pretty obvious that person was a user. The gifts do make it really awkward but until a degree of bond is established you owe that person nothing. The OP seems to imply that there was an established bond of some kind, given they were able to chat about personal stuff AND they replied to say they wouldn't just vanish / backstab them. Even in the event that the other person simply decided the OP was too high maintenance or for whatever reason just wanted to end contact (going too fast? some kind of unspoken red flag?), unless there was actually some conflict that triggered the leaving then a basic token gesture of departure is kind of a given. Flat out severing contact is a harsh move, moreso when this goes against something you effectively gave your word on, y'know?
Again, you're right that we don't know the fine details and only have one side of the story, but from what we know, the other person was inconsiderate to the point that it sounds like they may have even intended to hurt the OP with how they ended contact. I should probably err more on the side of caution because I've seen how such things can have drastically different versions on both sides of the dividing line, but ehhhh~, we're not part of it either way, and the OP is obviously burned up about it. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt if only to soothe the only party present. Your way is better measured, but it's unlikely the other party is on these forums.
After thinking back to a number of weird online dramas, I might have rethought my position on this, but I already typed out all this stuff and my editing skills are terrible, so uh... I agree, but OP gets the pet-pet. Yes. My articulation is double good.
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Totally off topic, but look at you, being Support and all :3 congrats (or something)!
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"but you can't blame people for not being always perfect and doing the right thing the right way."
That's okay, because nobody is trying to blame that person for not being perfect nor doing the right thing the right way. Just holding someone accountable for lying and being douchey. \:3/
It's true that we don't know the full story, but going just on the info provided, the other party seems like a total butt.
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I'm sorry for you...
I've been on that kind of situation so many times I don't even care any more...
Now I see it positively: worthless people remove themselves from your life automatically.
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I like that last saying, I should use it in my fanfiction later on xD
Yeah, I try to not care for people recently as well, but the self destructive nature in them, activates something in me and I for some reason even if cold and rude all the time, still grow the need to help...
Except when I get lied and betrayed, then I just need my rant and it's fuck them, they can live their own lives with their lying ways.
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Confucius once said "love me when I don't deserve it, because that's when I'll most need it".
I try to live that way with everyone, because I think it's the strong path.
But people just don't do the same, what can I do? The worst thing: they hate you because of stuff you did that was less than what they did, even after you forgave them.
People just want you to put yourself on their shoes all the time, but they never put themselves on your shoes. So I just stopped to care. Now I can be an angel when I know someone and a demon when that someone is doing something wrong for some time.
I'm free now, and if someone doesn't like my way of dealing with those people, most likely they are not worth too, so they can also stay out of my way automatically. That's another advantage.
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"Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering."
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that sounds terrible.. Im so sorry for you, I can understand how must hurt. Don't give up on people, they arent all the same, I gave my trust to good and bad people, some are worth it, some arent. Many friends just use you until they need you..that's sad. Learn from this, be slightly more careful next time you give your trust. Cheer up, it happens often, this makes us stronger, once you get over it. Take your time, no hurry.
I wish you to find good friends again :) Im sure it will happen soon
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Hurt is dead how can you feel him?!
now ,in all seriousness, I've read your post. quite awfull stiuation. hope you'll get over it asap. don't worry and SMILE :)
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I have some friends on Steam that I told a lot of my crap to, actually I tell my crap to people everywhere I guess, I don't really care who knows anymore, I guess. But anyways, I realized a while ago that if/when I get attached at all to someone, I get really annoying and stuff. So now if I ever feel like I want to talk to a specific person, I try not to because I figure I'll just get on their nerves or something.
That's why I need Gatebox. I doubt Anime girls will betray me (since they can't, they're not real...) and it's not like they'll depress me more than getting left alone by everyone real I try to get close to (even though they aren't real....)
But yeah, I kind of understand you with the real friends part, but with me, I realize it was all my fault. I had a girl I really liked, but I while we might say "hi" and stuff if we saw each other in the halls or wherever, I was always too scared and not confident enough to actually have a conversation irl (especially since she was always with other friends...), but we would chat on Facebook and stuff a lot, and it made me so happy I could hardly believe it. But I would still get days where I felt suicidal and since I trusted her I tried to talk to her about it, but I guess that was too much for her and she wanted me to stop talking to her... Then, of course, every day I was suicidal and I kept trying to talk to her to try and have that happiness again, but instead it eventually lead to her trying to get a restraining order against me... And while it didn't actually make it in court, it at least got it in my head that she doesn't want to be my friend and that all the times I did my best to give her confidence and stuff (be it for tests she had coming up or musical performances, etc.) it wasn't enough. And then I dropped out of school and became addicted to anime girls. And only one of the "friends" I had at school ever tried to contact me to see where I went, lol, I guess that really says something about me. :P
... See? Like I said, now I tell my crap to everyone, lol. And while I'm not really over her still after these years, I at least know she's happier now with me out of her life and (I'm probably in the minority with my religion here, but) I still pray for her to be happy and have her life go well and all once in a while.
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^ That guy pictured is not a human. He is an alien.
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god do you see now why i regret the time when treason meant a flying head. saddly a common practice among those so empty at the point of not thinking twice to make use of a person to fill the vacuum they have inside. you were nothing but a filler to her, and so is her fresh new toy. disposable relationship, thats what it is. plebs like this are just hopeless, you have lost nothing. ofc i can imagine the butthurt is real. take your time, wear your best polo t shirt and take a walk. situation like this are the best moments to grow a new hobby
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Shit happens, right?
Go on with your life and you will be over with it in no time, trust me.
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Sounds like you put out way too much information to her and got clingy too fast. Kind of a shit way for her to disappear, but what would you expect? She'd be unlikely to send you a long message about her reasons for unfriending. That doubles the awkwardness.
There are better matched friends for you out there. Get back on the horse! Good luck.
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I used to focus a lot on the "social" aspect of steam, but because of that and various other reasons I only focus on playing games now, and truth be told, it's a million times better.
maybe I'm just an extreme hermit though
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It sounds like you ran into a 'user'.
Anything we can say is probably going to sound really hollow compared to the harshness you're feeling right now, but this is all a black mark on them, not you. You have every right to feel jaded towards people, but give yourself time to recover. Even if it's an online relationship (even if not romantic!) having someone completely take a shit on your trust like that can really burn.
It's weird, but try to look on the bright side here : You got to find out their true colors before you got any closer. In a way it's a great thing that this happened, it's like pulling the band-aid off in one sharp motion rather than drawing it out and messing with you even deeper.
The worst is over now, so give yourself some time to come to terms with it. Even if you run into a hundred more people like this, you'll stumble on some genuinely cool people who make it all worth the while. It's sorta like panning for gold; you have to sieve through a ton of mud before you find a few crazy diamonds with keeping, heh.
It's their loss, right?
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Well idk. I'm a hard person to be friends with, but still pretending to accept me for who I am isn't actually a very good thing to do, instead of leaving at the start... even if you were warned -.-"
I mean what's the point to start something if you'll just be like "FUck you idc," and leave, without a word :x
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Hmm. Well if you describe yourself as someone who is hard to be friends with, that does make me wonder why. Giving forewarning can sometimes be taken as self-consciousness rather than an accurate assessment, y'know? When they accept who you are early in getting to know someone, it means they accept what they know of you, and are at least willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
You did say that they halted contact after a CS:GO session, so I'm gonna make a total guess here and ask if you're a pretty firey gamer? As in, smacktalk and biting insults? Because if so, there's a chance you might have gone too far, and rather than confront you about it, they might have been repelled to the point of severance? Sorry for the assumptions here. I mean, if these things are the case (and the way you openly say you're a hard person to be friends with), then rather than taking a "Take me or leave me" approach, maybe you might need to ease into fresh relationships slower so that they can get a better handle on you?
idk
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I cant be serious while voice chatting in games... meaning I don't flame. I just naturally laugh because idk... the games just feel too weird to me then and... c'mon have you ever hidden behind a box observing your team and seen them die? THe death animation is just so retarded that you cant really flame. It's too hilarious xD
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In that case I really can't zero in on what went down.
Still, if they acted like that towards you, then they're either really selfish or your personalities were somehow incompatible. Either way, they showed they weren't really friend material regardless of if any fault even existed on either side. You need more considerate / relaxed people in your life.
Still, hope it doesn't weigh too heavy on your mind for much longer.
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Maybe she was expecting you to sacrifice yourself and take a clip of bullets for her, and you say you just hid behind a box and watched them die!? HOW COULD YOU!? /sarcasm
No but I haven't played CS:GO, but I get pretty ticked playing FPS's online now... I didn't used to, but since I've kind of given up on trying to be likeable and stuff now, when I do end up playing online, there's usually a lot of anger, lol. And reports. Lots of those, too, but that was mostly in Destiny. I also don't voice chat, though.
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Agreed - it's not easy! ;-P
(but it is worth it)
You know I love you, man.
TL;DR: Don't feel bad, don't expect explanations and don't change. :-D
Like others have said, the way people treat you speaks much more about them than it does about you. It still doesn't mean that she's a bad person, though. Not many people enjoy conflict, and particularly when people are not feeling strong, they'd rather try to slip away quietly than have to try to summon the energy to argue or to explain why they don't want to engage with you at the time. I notice it more from women than men. I realise that this is a stereotype, with all the intrinsic errors and exceptions, but in general, I think us men have more of a need for things to be addressed directly, while women are far more comfortable that a feeling/emotion is a conclusion in itself. In my experience, sometimes they will resume communication sometime down the track (e.g. months later) but often they won't. It's far more likely that they will try to pick things up again if you're friends in real life, especially for several years, because there is more emotional investment in the relationship. I think people tend to treat online friendships, particularly new ones, as a bit more disposable than real world ones (it's a self-protection mechanism so that you don't get too emotionally invested before you have confidence that it will progress).
When chatting online, you come across as having a lot of energy, mainly because you type quickly and break up long messages into multiple lines. You also don't mind arguing passionately about something but you are quick to move on afterwards and don't harbour any malice to the person you've been arguing with. It's a personality trait that I've seen a fair bit of in successful construction project managers - you have to take no shit from the contractor and kick arse when necessary, but not let it spoil the relationship. Again, it's a generalisation, but most women (most men too, to be honest) find it difficult to remain emotionally distant from a passionate argument, which means that afterwards when you've happily moved on, they have a lingering subconscious feeling that you have judged them negatively and don't like them, when for you the argument was just about the idea.
In terms of your communication style, from the other end of the conversation, they see:
There is another aspect of your personality that also might mean you get more ghosts than average: you're very caring and like to help people when they need it. What this means is that people who need help to sort their shit out will clutch onto that assistance when you offer it, so you develop more relationships with people that are having a tough time than the average person does. Unfortunately, these are also the people that are most likely to withdraw so that they can digest and process the suggestions that you've provided or just work on things on their own to sort things out in their lives. Some of these people might contact you again when they are feeling more settled but some won't.
I like you, Kapy, and I don't think you should change anything about yourself. Your apparent energy level or intensity can be a bit daunting when I am tired, so you just have to accept that sometimes I won't feel like chatting, but I think we have a decent understanding of each other. When I'm not tired, I love the energy that comes across the chat, so I'd hate for you to try to hide it. I don't think you'll gain much by pursuing an answer on a case by case basis. If you do want an explanation, I would suggest a single short message, such as, "Did I upset you?" or "Sorry if I offended you - what did I say?" and then just metaphorically walk away without expecting a response. Consider any response as a bonus. I personally also find it very painful to deal with the "unexplained break in communication" technique (I told you about my friend that I got my phone from), but all I can offer as consolation is my logical speculation about what's going on inside their heads and why you're seeing it. If I had any advice, perhaps you could just treat online relationships a bit more cautiously, allowing them to develop over longer periods than real life relationships where bonds are consolidated by seeing and touching each other and sharing a variety of experiences, and trying to consider them more disposable for longer, in recognition that this is how others seem to be treating them.
;-;
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Be glad it's diamonds and not lemons!
Muddy metaphors are always a crapshoot. When panning for gold gives you diamonds, you make martinis!
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Oh child. come hither and let me giveth thou respite
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thouest demandeth more?
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Kangoku-Jikken
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:: devours this ::
Nevermind, this isn't going to waste :9
Oh crap, wait, I just ate manga. MANGA. Gonna call an ambulance before I come down with waifu syndrome.
On a more serious note, I just realised how badly I need to change my alarmclock app's tone to this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCfDxZxTBW4
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First off, excuse me for no gift inside or for making a rant, about it. But I just got no where else to do it and it will be eating me for weeks if I don't share it.
Here it goes. Few months ago, I got betrayed in many ways by my life "friends". So I started giving more time to my online "friends". There was this girl, she was bit odd and stuff. We talked, had fun and stuff. Passed for weeks. Told her my sob story with the life "friends" and stuff, she then said she wont be like them and just be an ass and leave. Sure I believed. Had to observe her drama with a weirdo and stuff. The last time we actually chatted, I forced myself to play CSGO with her on the American servers clearly and my penalty for that chose was 150 ping of course. Truth be told we had fun and stuff. Then she went silent for few days. Then I found out I got deleted... Ask people who we were common friends. She avoided the questions.
Few days ago I noticed she didn't delete me yet on discord and as a joke told her that she forgot to do it... Then she replies with "I'll fix that" and blocks me.
To be honest. I didn't care that much for the person. Hell she can have a happy life from now far as I care... The thing that eats me and pisses me off, is how easily her "promise" was broken... How she just lied to me. I heard she found a girlfriend or something... I mean c'mon if it was because of it, you could of easily just said it.
One thing I hate most in the world. Broken loyalty or simply said, lying. Hopefully I'll manage to rest my mind after doing my little rant.
P.S for someone to claim to be an adult, that move was pretty immature of her. If she sees it, she could just pass away. I would prefer if she doesn't try to be part of my life anymore. Not matter if online or not.
P.S.2 I don't recommend the new underworld. too many actors, too little acting.
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