Playing Matters Recruitment Topic v3


Playing Matters is a group that values playing wins from SteamGifts. We hope to create a respectable and dependable platform to unite friendly and passionate gamers.
Our group is not so much about making giveaways, but about enjoying what we already have and sharing fun with like-minded people. We aim to create a friendly and enjoyable atmosphere in our group.

We fully encourage fun little chats to take place in our group giveaways. Additionally we have our own Discord server for our members to make new friends and enjoy each other’s company while also enjoying our wins.


Before applying to join our group, please make sure that:


How to apply:

If you meet the requirements mentioned above and want to join, reply to this topic stating that you are applying to the group and tell us a bit about your favourite SG win. It doesn’t have to be much - maybe a sentence or two.

Creating a BLAEO account is not required but we’d still like you to post the link to your profile if you have it, whether you use it actively or not.

We will have a look at your profile(s) and contact you in due time.

We hope to see you among us. Have fun winning games and playing them!


Please don’t send friend requests to mods or admins.

If you don't receive a direct reply within 7 days, your application is likely under consideration. Also, if your application is rejected please don’t allow this to break your spirit. Instead use it as a motivation to discover and enjoy new games among your SG wins. Who knows, maybe your next favourite game is right around the corner.

Note: We have been planning a change of mod team. However, at the moment of the old team going to rest, we still have not gathered enough group members for a new team to continue moderation duties. Group is still functioning, with increased moderation response time. We shall see how events will unfold. Group may be closed in future.

8 months ago*

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Hi, I'm interested in joining! I'm a member of Play or Pay, Playing Appreciated, and I participate every month in the PAGYWOSG even by mouse & Samwise, so I'm used to playing my SG wins. :)

I'd say my favorite wins are Portal & Portal 2. They are true masterpieces, the mechanics are great, and I love the humour.

My BLAEO profile: https://www.backlog-assassins.net/lists/4b36gby

Thanks! :D

5 months ago
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Hi, it is pretty that you participate in so many playing-wins activities. However you are currently still below our absolute minimum requirements and these should be satisfied not only during recruitment but also at all times while being a member of PM. Hence we recommend to play more wins and it would be awesome to make it a habit to increase the part of played wins all the time.

5 months ago
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Hi Lilith, I've beaten 52% of my SG wins, what do you mean I'm below your absolute minimum?

EDIT: I should be now at achievements rate ≥25% complete: 50% (28/56) (since now Lethal League is at ≥25%) + I've completed The Vanishing of Ethan Carter Redux, instead of the regular version so that's one that the script isn't counting (that would make it achievements rate ≥25% complete: 52% (29/56) So I'm now over the 50% requierement in achievements too :)

EDIT 2: Another game beaten + ≥25% complete. I am now at 52% (29/56) + The Vanishing of Ethan Carter Redux.

5 months ago*
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From group FAQ:

How do you check played win percentages?
We use Kelnage’s Do You Even Play Bro script.

In your case script says what you have achievements rate ≥25% complete: 48.2% (27/56)
I guess it's because two of games what you marked as beaten on BLAEO has less that 25% achievements.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what you not actually beat those games (I'm not familiar with Divekick so can't say anything about this game achievements and Insurgency is multiplayer game so it's hard to say when it counted as beaten). I just try to pointed out the possible reasons in your case.

Also I'm not a group moderator, so you'll better wait oficcial responce. I'm just trying to help a bit.

P.S. I suggest to you just play more games you've won. This will help prevent a situation where you'll be too lucky and win many games in a short period of time, which will reduce achievements rate below 50%

5 months ago
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Thanks for te anwser!
Yikes, I've completed The Vanishing of Ethan Carter Redux, instead of the regular version so that's one that the script isn't counting, and yeah, most achievements in Divekick are impossible since they are multiplayer bound, and the multiplayer mode is dead :( The only achievement I unlocked is "Beat story mode with one character." that's why it is in the beaten category.

Thanks again for the answer, hopefully Lilith understands. Either way, I'll hopefully play more of my wins next week after I upgrade my PC, but it'd be neat if I could be accepted anyways.

EDIT: I should be now at achievements rate ≥25% complete: 50% (28/56) (since now Lethal League is at ≥25%) + Ethan Carter Redux. I'm now over the 50% requierement in achievements too :)

5 months ago*
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Hi Charlie, thanks for the update.

Your application is under discussion. The mods have unfortunately been particularly busy lately with the holidays, thanks for your patience and understanding.

4 months ago
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No worries. Looking forward to your reply :)

4 months ago
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Hi again Timobkg! I don't know in what state my application is, but I wanted to let you know that I've beaten another game with 25%+ achievements, so I am way beyond the minimum required to join. Could you update me on the situation? Thanks :)

3 months ago
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This is not simply a matter of getting a percentage in statistics. We call it minimum because we look for many more things which can not be formalized with just a number. I will try to explain.

Think of this as a matter of person's (winner's) approach, indications of which we are looking for from info and profiles available for a potential new member of our group.

A person either believes that positive efforts directed at them by surrounding world should be appreciated, valued, multiplied - by putting these to appropriate use, purpose; or not. This is not a hard work. Purpose of some things can be to make someone feel warmth, to have fun, to have a peek at something from a new perspective, or to see beauty. To ignore, to not let it grow - is a choice.

In context of gifting games to each other on Steamgifts, it is either believing that oneself should enroll for gifts-games they are going to give a sincere try for, or not. Isn't it simple.
Playing Matters tries to gather people who act consistently to this approach. Doesn't matter why exactly, for which of the manifold of reasons/ideas. We have many very different people. Point is that almost all of our members are well above minimal requirements, and not because PM asks for this.

In this light, maybe you can relate that it is not without sadness that we occasionally see a person who has won a lot of games, and in struggle to satisfy absolute minimal requirements they would earn a few achievements here and there from some started games or beating short games etc., in other words going the simplest ways - to optimize against script, hush up "symptoms", but not to work with the essence. What shall we understand from this, for what to hope?

Again, it is true that some games can be beaten with getting not many achievements, some games show achievements from basic version of the game while winner has beaten complete version packaged in the same gift etc. there is many different nuances. That is why we don't ask for even higher requirements. Exceptions don't change the whole tendency. When number of wins is large enough (say, more than 10 wins), exceptions are only a tear in the ocean. We look at the ocean.

Having said that, I don't imply anything about you. And you are awesome anyway having played so many wins! What I say is that we can not see at this point even in which direction you intend to develop your approach to wins. With or without our group. What you would really like to do yourself. And if anything, we don't want to make you struggle if PM is not really your thing. We prefer to make more weighted, matured decisions. Feel free to comment, ask, protest, add, postpone or remain silent :3

3 months ago
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Sorry, I'm a bit sleepy right now, but, yeah, I know that it is not about achievements or about the exact % of wins. I was just trying to tell you that I finished another game, I thought you maybe forgot about it since so much time passed since my original comment. Since you always say (with reason) that if you let people enter with a % too close to the minimum, then, if you win a game you'd have to kick them from the group. The only reason I talked about % is because in the answer to my original comment you said that I had less than 50% games with 25% achievements, because I forgot to check.
I think you could be misinterpreting things, it is definitely not a burden to play my wins. I only enter giveaways for wishlisted games and I've been playing wins constantly for more than a year now. My consistency is part of my approach, I try to play wins regularly, mainly because they were games I wished for.
My approach to wins is simply to play them as soon as I have time, but I don't want to rush them either, so I tend to prefer playing during my holidays since that way I can zone out more easily.
To be clear, I didn't play hiveswap to "have better stats" I truly enjoy it's artstyle and I had time to play it, so I did. It was definitely not a struggle, and I was going to play it with or without PM.
If you have doubts, I'd love to answer any questions you may have, regardless of me being in the group or not, since maybe you are seeing somethig I don't. Thanks for your time :)

3 months ago
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I cannot register at BLAEO, I would like to know my stats if it's possible, just curious.

5 months ago
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I'm not part of the group, but like you I'm also applying for this group (just not right now, because I have to beat more games). I can't seem to get the userscript to work, but I've been checking my stats manually and using BLAEO as a sort of organizer (It lets you categorize all the games you own as Not Played, Unfinished, Beaten, Completed). I can at least help you get access to that BLAEO website. Just reply to this thread "I want to join this Great website":

https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/9VTBD/backlog-assassins-extraordinaire-a-website-community-to-help-you-fight-your-backlog-blaeo

And just wait for OP to reply that he's added you to the website.
If you want more motivation to beat your backlog you can try joining Playing Appreciated, Play or Pay, or even Play a Game you Won on Steamgifts. Just make sure you follow their rules.

5 months ago
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As Alvin already sayd, in order to use BLAEO websait, you need to ask to be added on it, in mentioned thread.
As for your stats:

Achievement Rates
≥25% complete: 30.1% (115/382)

5 months ago
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I want to join

5 months ago
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Hi, we require that all applicants and members have their Steam profiles and game details set to public from Steam privacy settings, so that we can check that applicants and members are playing their wins.

Currently it looks like your Steam game details are set to private, so we would need you to change that to public before we can proceed. It would also be helpful if you could make a BLAEO profile. Thank you.

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5 months ago
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Hello, can you check my stats please?

4 months ago
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Average and Total Playtime 9.6 hours per win, 12 hours per played win, 587 hours total
Games with any Playtime 83.6% (51/61)
Games with Playtime... ≥5 hours: 45.9% (28/61), ≥10 hours: 29.5% (18/61)
Avg. Achievement Percentage 53.6%
Games with ≥1 Achievement 69.6% (32/46)
Achievement Rates chart: ≥25% complete: 47.8% (22/46), completed: 13.0% (6/46)

You may also want to create a BLAEO profile

4 months ago
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Thanks ;D

4 months ago
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May i join the group?

4 months ago
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Unfortunately, you do not currently meet the requirements. I highlighted the 25% achievement rate because the minimum requirement for joining and staying in the group is to have more than 50% of SG wins played with at least a 25% achievement rate, and currently you're at 47.8%.

Keep playing your wins, and you're welcome to apply later after you've made more progress. :)

4 months ago
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Oh, yeah i see, thx for the info ;)

4 months ago
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Hello Lilith!
I'm very interested to join your group!
But I don't want to create a BLAEO account.
My Tampermonkey check said ≥25% complete: 52.9% (163/308), completed: 52.9% (163/308) ^^

4 months ago*
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You have private game details on your Steam account. We require all details being public for recruitment and while being a member of PM at all times.

4 months ago*
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Changed settings today.
Please allow me to join
Thank you

3 months ago
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One of complicated cases.

You are one of the people who unlocks all the achievements for a win they play which makes it obvious at the same time that win is taken a great care of, "beaten+".
But this stresses how many games you haven't given any try yet which is almost half of the wins in your case. And especially, how many you may not be going to play ever unless there is something else to it. There is plenty of games for which it may not be feasible to unlock all the achievements for one reason or another, mostly because it would take so much time that it is not possible with amounts of games you keep winning and how much you play.
Can you say how you choose which wins you play next? It looks like there is some logic of ability to unlock all chievements fast.

Brief analysis shows that mass of your beaten wins are short games, and most of longer games are left behind. This means that this minimal requirement will not be enough, that much I can tell immediately.

3 months ago
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Yeah; You're right.
A lot of short games and many unplayed ones
I like to complete games fast and choose spontaneously which game willbe the next

3 months ago
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Hi! I think I qualify. Can I join the group?

4 months ago
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Hi, at this moment you do not qualify. Probably you applied before winning the last game, nevertheless let's deal with wins before continuing. Take your time :)

4 months ago
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It's been a while. How about now?

3 months ago
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4 months ago
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Hi, I'd like to join. I believe I meet the requirements and I agree to the rules.

As for my favourite SG win - it's easily SteamWorld Heist. I played (and quite liked) SteamWorld Dig before, but Heist is a real gem to me. I usually have a lot of fun with turn based strategy games, but this twist of 2D strategy with the need of taking each shot manually was really enjoyable to me. I played Heist for ~40 hours and bougth the dlc as well. Also the soundtrack is great :)

4 months ago
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Hello there. Sorry for late response.

While your statistics from "Do You Even Play Bro" script is above the minimum threshold, we noticed that many of your wins with 25%+ achievements are still not finished.
We'd like to see more than 50% of wins finished as starting point. Therefore, at the moment, we have to decline your application.

Keep playing your wins, and you're welcome to apply later after you will made more progress.

1 month ago
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In that case please change your rules so that it clearly states that you need to finish your games. Right now you have group info, FAQ, group guidelines and this post and NONE of them has this requirement.

Add that to the 3 month wait for the reply and my impression is that you're not really looking for new people to join. Shame and sorry to see that. I'll stick to Playing Appreciated.

1 month ago
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Sorry again for the long wait. In connection with the replacement of the moderators team, for a long time all the group moderation functions were carried out by one person, so has accumulated a large number of pending applications. It definitely shame for us, if you got bad impression by this.

Thank you for your remark regarding the ambiguity in the rules. Perhaps we really should supplement them for clarity.
However, I would like to note that this requirement are still mentioned in this post in first reply, which was reserved for additional info.

Good luck and stay safe.

1 month ago
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No problem, happy to help others see what they're getting into. Right now people apply and you still reply that they have to have 50% wins with 25% achievements and only after they come back with that requirement fulfilled you tell them that's not enough, therefore wasting their time (and yours as well). Adding that requirement to the rules will solve this issue.

As for the requirement itself - it is your group so you can of course have any requirement you like, but let me tell you why it is a deal breaker to me. Main reason why is because it forces to finish games that I'm not really good at or I don't like. I gave a good try to both Giana Sisters and N++ and after a few hours I know that they are good games but they are too difficult and I simply won't finish them.
Another category are games that are bad. Okay, I gave Verge: Lost chapter a go, I even finished it but it doesn't have achievements and I certainly won't waste my time to play such a bad game again just to post a screenshot. And also there are games that have technical issues - Voxelized is an early access mess that was given for free.

I appreciate your reply, but I won't be applying again for the reasons mentioned above. Good luck.

1 month ago*
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Getting closer :3

4 months ago
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Hello! I believe I qualify for this and would like to join.

I think my favorite SG win was Saints Row II. I like open world games like this and since GTA was one of the first games I've ever played, it made the game feel kinda nostalgic in a sense, even though it is unique in many ways.

4 months ago
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Greetings. Sorry for the late reply.
Unfortunately, you are currently a bit below absolute minimum, but we see that you are indeed played many of your wins.
So just don't give up and keep playing games you've won here and feel free to reapply once you reach more progress.

1 month ago
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Hello i would like to join and i believe i meet the requirements.
To be honest i can't choose a favourite win so i will choose two games. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Ultimate Edition is a hack & slash with a pretty interesting history. WASTED is a really fun FPS Rogue-like, im a huge fan of rogue-likes but i loved that one.
BLAEO: https://www.backlog-assassins.net/users/Hambelino

4 months ago*
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Hi, you are still a bit below our absolute minimal requirements. More than that, we wish to see at least half of wins beaten at the moment of a person joining the group. I didn't look into this yet, but if it is not difficult, could you mark in BLAEO which wins were beaten.

3 months ago
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Okay, i will do a list and i'll try to join when i complete more games.

3 months ago
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I'd like to join! I haven't run the script, but out of my 9 wins, 8 have achievements, I have 100% achievements on 4 and 22/25 achievements on 1 so with some basic maths... hopefully I qualify?

My favorite win would be Staxel. I have found a love for cozy farming sims, and it's also very cute. One of the main gameplay aspects is building houses for new villagers and furnishing them which I have loved doing ever since being addicted to The Sims 2 as a kid.

3 months ago
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Hello there, I just leave your stats here, if you are interested:

Average and Total Playtime 9.9 hours per win, 11 hours per played win, 89 hours total
Games with any Playtime 88.9% (8/9)
Games with Playtime... ≥5 hours: 55.6% (5/9), ≥10 hours: 44.4% (4/9)

Avg. Achievement Percentage 84.1%
Games with ≥1 Achievement 75.0% (6/8)
Achievement Rates ≥25% complete: 62.5% (5/8), completed: 50.0% (4/8)

At the first look 62.5% is enought to join, but unfortunately it's not, because you have less than 10 wins at the moment. From group requirements:

We are interested in members who played more than 50% of wins with 25% achievement completion. For members with fewer than 10 wins, 80% played for games with 25% achievement completion is required to join.

Your progress is pretty good, so just don't give up and keep playing your wins and come back here little later :)

3 months ago
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LOL I apparently skipped that part! I'll just win 1 game and be back! D:

3 months ago
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Best of luck then! ;)

3 months ago
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Sure. Or you can try out your win(s) you haven't played much.

3 months ago
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I sure am, that was mostly a joke. I've played and completed another game since writing, if that doesn't make me meet the requirements I should probably have 1 more game to play in order to join.

3 months ago
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No wins, but got through a few games. I should be qualifying now!

3 months ago
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Hey, I'd like to join :)

It was a tough pick between The Age of Decadence and Dirt Rally but The Age of Decadence just pushed all my buttons in that it played similar to the Avernum series with its isometric rpg turn-based combat with story choices and multiple endings.

3 months ago
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The Age of Decadence is one of the games I keep stumbling upon. Still haven't made my mind to plan it for backlog :] So it is pretty good, huh. At leas for someone who played Geneforge-kind-of-games :3

3 months ago
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Yup, mirrors all the important rpg elements, I was surprised how much I liked it. Good guy, bad guy, pick faction quests, skill checks, optional side stuff, cool plot. The graphics are more modern smooth of course.

3 months ago*
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Hello
I'd like to apply to the group.
My updated !!! BLAEO.
My favorite win at this point is Battle Chef Brigade from Playing Appreciated group.
Everything there triggered me so well. The story, the action in combat, customizing playthrou. It's a game
about cooking and battling to get ingriedient and story is great + fully voiced (yes that matter).

I'd like to now what is meant by "muliwins" ?? Is it having multiple unfinished games within PM group ??

3 months ago*
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You are probably talking of Multiple wins related to SteamGifts rules and their breaking. Longer time ago it was possible to win multiple copies of the same gift, and some people abused that. Now, it shouldn't be possible.
Whether a person has done this before, can be checked here: http://sgtools.info/multiple/Adamiix

I liked Battle Chef Brigade :3 Game is a gem. Unique. Maybe some features like the cooking mechanics weren't of my favourite genre but these weren't in a way of enjoying everything else.

3 months ago*
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Only those cracked ingredients were annoying enough for me but my playstyle was Cutting board and Coockware (upgrades slowly in time).
I find quite challenging making 3 dishes or 2 multielemental.

Edit: Thanks for dispelling my doubts about multiwins.

3 months ago*
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I'd like to join. I only have 3 wins, 1 has no achievements (Kind Words) but the other 2 (Yoku's Island Express and Evergarden) I completed to 100%. My favorite win is by far the first one, Yoku's Island Express, because I never played a metroidvania pinball game and also I loved the music and jolly look of the game world.

EDIT: Somehow I managed to win 4 giveaways in a week since this post. I played 3 of them so I still meet the requirements I believe. My favorite win is still Yoku's Island Express.

3 months ago*
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I think i do fit all the rules that are on your steam page, i'd like to join.

I actually have 2 favourite wins; one of them is Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition which is actually a very underrated gem and the other is... well... uh... Hunie Pop... it's surprisingly addictive.

3 months ago
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Hi, all in all, you are currently below our minimal requirements regarding beating SG wins. Situation didn't change during application period much, but I am writing to let you know that we do follow your application.

1 month ago
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I would like to join, I don't have a favorite won yet, because I won just one game, but that game is fulfill the requirements :)

3 months ago*
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Hello there.
Since submitting your application, you have won many games and now you are way below absolute minimum.
Feel free to reapply once you reach acceptable level of progress.

1 month ago
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Hey Lilith, i'd like to ask if i can return to the group i've beated the games that i won.

3 months ago
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Hello, looking to join...I've played all three of my wins so far. My favorite being Deponia: The complete Journey, love a good old school style Point-n-Click, grew up on Monkey Island games and Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Currently working my way through that one, almost done with the second chapter.
The 2 hours I have into A story about Uncle represents a full playthrough, and I never went back for the achievements since I found the game more geared towards kids than I would have guessed from the store page. Great artwork though, I had some killer screenshots which I of course lost having the reset to factory settings before I put any up. I can definitely hop on and bang some of those out though if its a deal-breaker.

2 months ago
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Hi, it is great to see you having beaten almost all of your wins.

Also you win lately quite a lot - good for you, however this makes you hop above and below our minimal requirement of wins beaten (currently below 80%). Besides, the last win - Bounty Train - is not that fast to beat and you may win even more gifts during its playtime.

Either way, good job, continue winning and playing, and we will see how situation develops.

1 month ago
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If I qualify I'd like to join.

Also bump. o/

2 months ago
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Hi, Lilith812
Can you please tell me my stats conditions for joining your group?

2 months ago
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"Do You Even Play Bro" script gave me that:

Avg. Achievement Percentage 94.2%
Games with ≥1 Achievement 22.1% (141/638)
Achievement Rates ≥25% complete: 21.3% (136/638), completed: 19.1% (122/638)

I highlighted the 25% achievement rate because the minimum requirement for joining and staying in the group is to have more than 50% of SG wins played with at least a 25% achievement rate

2 months ago
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:(
Thank you, SpiderDen

2 months ago
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Just don't give up and play your wins and eventually you'll reach acceptable stats I believe.
But even if not, then you'll at least have a good time and maybe even find a new favorite game for yourself amoung your untouched wins. Who knows.

2 months ago
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Hi can I join don't know if I meet requirements

2 months ago
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Hello there.
Unfortunately you don't meet minimum requirements, since you haven't played most of your wins so far.

2 months ago
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Hi, I'd like to join. I believe I meet the requirements and I agree to the rules.

2 months ago
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Your only win doesn't appear beaten.

Also note while winning more games, for users with very low amount of wins (and hence, total wins statistics being easier/faster to change both ways) we have a higher requirement which basically encourages to beat / get through possibly all content of all the first wins on SG.

1 month ago
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