[P!M!] “Playing Matters” - a group for people who play their wins

Basically out of all your games you only got 1 achievement in 16 of them out of 242.
Out of those only 3 of them were played enough to be classed as 25% finished.
This group wants at least 50% of your games to be at 25% complete so 121 games.

However they will want more then just 50% because they want to see you are committed to beating your wins across the short and long. Also for the fact if you are just above it or right on the 50% 1 win will result in being kicked

If you are serious about wanting to play through all your games you can always give Playing Appreciated a try. While playing matters requires you to beat the game in 3 months, pa only requires you to give a decent try in 1 month (when you win from that group) none of your stats matter to them as long as you follow that rule
Also maybe Play a win plenty of people are other there going through their wins. You aren't required to play anything unless you want and maybe you might just beat something and find a ga reward you like

Yes, these two things are a bit different, even if correlating strongly.

Do you even play bro -script is used both during recruitment and periodically for checking group member statistics - as a proxy, an absolute minimum requirement checking tool.
However during recruitment we prefer to see at least half of all wins beaten, this is more tricky to measure / verify.

BLAEO is the best way to see how many wins are beaten, with achievements or not, but not the only one. Either way, many more indicators are picked from accounts regarding different aspects :3

No one in PM is obligated to beat all wins. This is a good target but of course there are many special cases including broken or just awful, poorly developed games which people may have won long ago. We take all this in account when asking to beat as much as possible and setting absolute minimal threshold to just 50%.

Otherwise, I agree with your considerations. Most SG users started off with winning just anything, trying to check if site is working at all, then a lot of people just didn't have the skill to research games. Myself, I have learned to pick indicators of how much I may enjoy the game and what kinds of risks I may encounter with a new game (vs how much I am ready to get over these risks) thanks to SG, when I noticed that some of my early wins were not fun or completely not something I thought of these.
Yes, it is impossible to know for sure everything about a game. Hence, giving more love. Even if game turns out a bit different, maybe too slow, difficult, feeling wrong - still giving it a bit more effort.

And going out of a comfort zone provides valuable lessons - even in such activity as playing games. Person may learn what kinds of games they may not want to play in future or maybe discover that they actually enjoy some genres and aspects which they didn't consider interesting before.

Oh, my fault. I had to check first before writing to you. But welcome to the group ;)

Well, it's pretty weird. I mean, I haven't experience with revoked games, so any things I can say would just be my thoughts.
Try to manually update your profile. Go to your account, chose "My games" and click a little gear near "Filter by tag or list". In next page, chose "Sync" and manually sync both: your steam library and your SG wins.
If it not helped, the only thing I can suggest you - is to ask about that issue on BLAEO thread or their steam group.

Hey jazzie. Sorry for the late reply.

We do not force people to finish ALL of their wins, because we understand that there are various situations: broken achievements, the game is only multiplayer and it is difficult to find players, the game itself is just awfull, etc. Therefore, although the finishing of all wins is a good goal, we understand that sometimes this goal is unattainable. That is why, we are talking about 50 +% of beaten games and not, for example, 70 +% or more.

So if you gave the game a good try, but for one reason or another could not finish it, we will not force you to do this and you can switch to another of your wins (however, I want to note that this does not apply to wins within the group and ANY group wins must be finished within three months).

What is a good try? Well this is a pretty tricky question. I suppose in this case time required to finish the game, obtained on different statistics sites, such as "How long to beat" or "AStats" can help to answer it. For example, if on average, it takes 20 hours to finish the game and someone says: "Hey, I just don't like this game" with 1 or 2 hours of playtime - that's definitely not a good try.
Also, you might be interested to read some comments that answered similar questions (here and here)

About DLC's. This is another rather difficult question. Since most DLC's are not tracked by Steam API there is no proper way to determine if it's played or not. Of course if those DLC's add some new achievements to the main game - that much easyer. But in most cases for DLC's like sondtrack, artbook or some cosmetic stuff we just exclude them from calculation. It's still good if main game of those DLC's at least have a playtime - it show that player interested in game.

Hope my answer helped you better understand our goals. If it's still unclear to you, or you have another questions - fell free to ask.

Hello there. Your application is under consideration. We'll contact you once moderators team reach an agreement about your application.

I see. To make it absolutely clear, we can not invite you. Our system relies on trust, and every member who is being invited, in a sense, first earns it.

Well, thanks for clearing the first point out in some part. I can trust that, for what it is worth for you

Beaten/played games. You have had huge amount of wins beaten or completed in unprecedentedly short time, making a pattern of it. I don't know what exactly was involved game by game, whether it could be fast-running with guides for selected games, skipping most optional content, even all cinematics etc., end-detail does not matter in this point, everyone does what makes sense for them and what they, hopefully, value.

However, consistent wins rushing itself has always been a red flag for PM. This is not a kind of playing wins which PM members / gifters deserve by design of the group and as a mod I am respecting that.

I can understand the incentive to deal with past wins somewhat faster than usual at a time when already hundreds of unplayed wins were accumulated. Playing through past wins, even if briefly, is still better than not playing at all. As a funny comparison, it is a bit like paying some respects at funeral. You started playing wins a lot and keep doing this. This is great. But continued winning big amounts of games even after that, and were rushing a lot of these too, so this didn't add up well from group perspective. A different idea.

No, didn't mean such idle games like you noted.

It is not like something "is not allowed". Of course, gamers can do whatever they like. Some scenarios are feasible and likely possible, others are not, or less so, this is not black and white. When this becomes relevant for some reason, this is a duty to occasionally relate for corresponding person, a mod in this case, to the best of their ability. And maybe best to ignore whatsoever for others (especially who would not give an equal piece of mind to it). Not the least important, mistakes can be made too.

Not exactly related only to your question, but how do we understand what we see? How do we decide what is effectively knowledge and what not, what is true and what is false? This is not black and white either. Knowledge about something is a sort of observation / conclusion / belief which is reinforced "well enough" (accent on how relative this could be) for us to stop poking it for time being, assume to be correct "until next time", and carry on to something else so that things keep moving, since we have to make an action after an action, thousands of decisions small and big every day, based on "shapshots" of our system of understanding the world, knowledge and beliefs, at the time.
All is unique and better to be perceived as it is (I mean with no prejudice), in context of where it is, and to the best ability. This still can never guarantee absolute objectivity when taking the action/choice/decision, but is an honest attempt.

Myself, I am not into permanent judgments, neither into far reaching conclusions. In most life aspects, I tend to (and actively try to) not be a slave to stereotypes, conclusions, assumptions, beliefs etc. especially to the ones I may not need to have at all.
But when it comes to some particular life situations where we have to collapse the horizon of some events, a quantum uncertainty of sorts, distribution of possibilities to decide what is likely the case and whether the case is certain enough in context of alternatives, we just do it as good as we can. Easy as that :D Real story, hope you liked it :3

The reason you're not allowed to cheat achievements here is that games here are required to be fully played and finished in 3 months. If you cheat in most of your games, how are the admins going to determine if you actually play your games or not?

But that's not really all. PM wants members with a certain mindset: people who are passionate about playing the games that they have and enjoying them to the fullest by playing them. Your mindset of "most of my games are not worth playing so I use SAM to complete them" is the complete opposite of what the group wants. Because Playing Matters is a group where, you know, playing matters.

That's my take as a non-admin/mod at least. It's a pretty strict group, a lot stricter than Playing Appreciated (but they aren't big fans of SAM cheaters there either).