"I Cut the 'Big Five' Tech Giants From My Life. It Was Hell"

by Kashmir Hill, Gizmodo


never felt that free, on the Internet... tho, this still terrifies me. kinda.

have a great week, peeps!


imma the usual lazy op that pretends to calls "minimalistic" what is just plain, crystal clear, deep and huge laziness. and so, was reading first comments down here, and this is the first effect. i mite add something more.

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not really, i can cut everything as long i had my STEAM!!!!
unless steam is in one of the videos, i'm screwed

2 months ago
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don't know about Steam, but you couldn't use SG (cause it runs on AWS)...

is that enough? :D

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People here saying they don't use Amazon, don't find it useful or don't have an account there are missing the point completely:

As I encountered at the beginning of this experiment, Amazon’s most profitable business isn’t retail; it’s web hosting. Countless apps and websites rely on the digital infrastructure provided by AWS, and none of them are working for me this week.

Steamgifts itself is hosted on AWS, as you point out, along with, like half of the internet. If you're on here, you're already using Amazon, chum.

2 months ago
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So... if half of internet is not working... I can suspect it's Amazon's fault?
:D

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Statistically speaking, basically yes. [Assuming the percentage is accurate, for the sake of argument]. If Amazon's data centers went down in one fell swoop, that is basically what would happen.

Edit: Upon rereading your comment, I see you were referencing the quote above. The services in question aren't working for the author because she intentionally blocked AWS as part of her exercise for the article.

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It happens twice a month for me xD For couple of hours I can enter only some "local" sites and pretty much nothing else (like steamgifts).

2 months ago
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I think that's more likely to be your ISP's fault actually.

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And while Microsoft's cloud share is smaller than Amazon's, they make more money off of it (i.e., theirs is more profitable, for a variety of reasons). This is why Apple has slid to #4, and Microsoft and Amazon keep flipping back and forth as the most valuable companies on the planet.

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Microsoft give their cloud platform away for free to any new developer who wants it.... until they reach a certain size, at which point you have to pay more than market rate, or spend a gazillion hours migrating to a different host.

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That is kinda reaching though. It is like saying you cannot use your current keyboard because it has a USB interface which is a standard developed by a host of organisations including microsoft. So yes, those are technically partially microsoft products, but for me to lump them with Windows would be just being pedantic.

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Except it's not reaching at all and your analogy is inadequate. It is the entire point of this exercise to show that web hosting is just as integral a pillar of Amazon's business as retail - if not actually more so - and that huge parts of the internet as we know it just wouldn't function without it as a result. I'm not lumping USB with Windows, I'm lumping Windows with Windows.

Amazon is not just an online store—that’s not even the hardest thing to cut out of my life. Its global empire also includes Amazon Web Services (AWS), the vast server network that provides the backbone for much of the internet [...] Ultimately, though, we found Amazon was too huge to conquer. AWS is the internet’s largest cloud provider, generating over $17 billion in revenue last year. [...] Launched in 2006, AWS has taken over vast swaths of the internet. My VPN winds up blocking over 23 million IP addresses controlled by Amazon, resulting in various unexpected casualties, from Motherboard and Fortune to the U.S. Government Accountability Office’s website.

Having to run to a physical store rather than opening my Amazon app every time the house runs out of paper towels is annoying, but the harder challenge is losing access to almost every form of digital entertainment I consume. My favorite time-wasting app, Words With Friends, won’t load. I can’t watch shows via Amazon Video, obviously, but I also can’t watch Netflix because, despite being a competitor of Amazon, Netflix uses AWS to serve its streams. HBO Go is another victim. [...] In addition to entertainment options going dark, basic tools of my work become unusable, notably the encrypted messaging app Signal and the workplace communication platform Slack. [...]

But cutting out Amazon also means severely limiting my ability to use one of our era’s crucial conversation tools: the language of links. I ask a friend where we are meeting for dinner, and she sends me a Yelp link, which I can’t open. Dhruv tells me he is busy working on “this,” and sends me a Motherboard link that doesn’t work. In the heaviest of shorthand communication, someone iMessages me an Eventbrite link; the share text indicates that their partner has succumbed in her fight against cancer, but I can’t access the Eventbrite page to confirm. (I turned off the VPN briefly to check it—it felt worth breaking the stunt.) We speak in links, even for the most devastating of news, and tech giants have made themselves indispensable for link translation. Dhruv keeps track of all the times my devices try to ping Amazon’s servers during the week. It happens nearly 300,000 times, probably in part because apps frustrated not to get a reply from the mothership keep pinging repeatedly until I close them. My devices try to reach Amazon via 3,800 different IP addresses, which suggests that there are a lot of different apps and websites attempting to connect to Amazon throughout the week.

From the first part of the series

2 months ago*
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I don't need it! PS/2 rules!
Oh wait... I use windows :/

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How can we know the host of any website ?

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Thank you ;-)

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NP! :)

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Interesting. I've heard that AWS is expensive. Now, I am curious to know how big the monthly bill cg receiving from Amazon is.

2 months ago
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Actually, compared to a lot of other cloud platforms, it's pretty cheap. Many of us in IT refer to Amazon as the "Walmart of cloud." lolz

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from when I was involved with this, a few years ago so things may have changed:

Amazon is overall pretty cheap. But, Microsoft gives their platform away to anyone who wants it.... until you reach a certain size, at which point you either start paying Microsoft's higher rates, or need spend a gazillion hours migrating elsewhere

2 months ago
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didn't know that
and yeah that's enough since SG is one of the site that i frequently visit

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first thing: thanks so much, peeps! i'm reading each and every comment of yours, obviously. tho, what i appreciate the most is that we are generating -good- content, enriching our experience at SG.

and then: MeeMesmo -rightly- asked for a TLDR and this comment of yours, ph34r, has everything it needs to be chosen as best TLDR. i also completely agree with you: that's enough :D

...cause SGiftin' is cool!

2 months ago
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This video is amazing, these 5 tech giants are ruling or lives without everybody feeling it. But as the guy in the video said, we can't do anything individually, there's must be a big communities and governments to stop this. I tried to use technology way less that i do now 'I am a kinda tech geek', it feels great for a while but then you feel kinda empty? that was the situation for me, i used to work as a blogger about tech and video games for 3 years so technology is a part of me as well, i spend all my free time also on videogames/technology.. That's why i started using everything connected to tech just like i used to, and using tech means using every giant tech company. But now i use it with less information and more caring about Privacy much more than i used to do before.

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I personally believe what she said and basically think the same way. Giant companies have too much power and they're everywhere.
But one thing she said is something I agree with. That saying that you should use less of those products isn't valid. I disagree with that. Sure, I don't think we should stop using everything, but making a conscious effort is better than complaining and doing nothing. So instead of using Instagram, Facebook, Whatsapp, Pinterest, Reddit, Tumblr and so on, you can cut those down. Maybe cut out 2 of them. How's that not better in any way? I don't get that whole argument of "They're everywhere so no reason to try", but I also disagree with the idea of "Well, stop everything you do".

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I don't know about "they're everywhere so no reason to try," but you could have good reasons for using all of the websites above that would make them quite difficult to abandon. e.g. maybe you use Facebook for keeping in touch with family, Whatsapp for communicating with friends, Tumblr as an artist portfolio...

While it's possible to switch to alternative sites, that's difficult and, in the case of work, grants you less exposure. Social media is a huge aspect of businesses and especially freelancing these days. The easier you are to find, the better.

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Yeah, but usually people have some extras that they don't need. Like, using Dropbox and Google Drive. Or using Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger and Kik. Using Snapchat and Instagram. So on and so forth.

You're of course a relative extreme. The average user isn't a Tumblr artist who works for commissions. Your living is made 100% online and because of that, you'll have to use 1-2 sites more than the average user and making your own website isn't really a feasible option since you'll get less traffic, it costs more to keep up and so on.

But even then, you're talking about businesses here. Not individuals. The article and the overall topic is about people, not corporations. A company won't give a damn if its data is used to show them ads. As a human being, not a corporate entity, you can most likely cut out a lot of things if you were interested in doing that.

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The Tumblr example wasn't meant to refer to me, I've just noticed a significant portion of the userbase are freelance artists of one kind of another, including webcomic artists who use their Tumblr to speak to fans. I brought up work because it's a major part of people's lives that can't be easily cut out. In my case, both my current jobs expect me to be available on Facebook, and I use Reddit for career networking and discussion.

Work aside, I agree there are probably some apps that can be cut from any person's life! But often the overlap is there for a reason. Generally for sites like Reddit and Tumblr it's about community—even if you're not close enough to be counted as friends, there are people you get used to chatting with or whose lives and work you follow that you don't want to lose. In the case of something like Tumblr, you might also be abandoning a blog you've been running for years if you go.

As for chat services, I find people tend to use more than one specifically because all their friends aren't using the same app, which means if you want to keep in touch with everyone you have to spread yourself out over multiple apps.

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I just find it irrelevant and unnecessary. I get the point of it. I just dont see a reason aside from being modern they edgy journalist.
Of course we are overdependant on technology. So ? Theres a line between being addicted to certain unhealthy things and using the obvious advantage they bring.
Privacy and misusage of data is problem and different topic altougether. The Amazon one I dont get. Its your addiction if you must buy everything from them and without hesitation buy and susbscribe their products.
AWS ? So ? I just dont find these useful. Mediocre journalism at its best.
For clarification - I agree that these companies having such control over everything is problematic. Inlcuding the data security questions and such. Im not fighting the obvious.
Just the simple fact of proving nothing in the end.

I use instagram only for work and for promotiomal stuff, hate twitter, dont usr any of those pinterests. Have never used amazon or their moronic products. I buy and use technology that gives advantagr to me, not because of name. Facebook and emails and smart phones. Everything makes our lives and work easier. We should instead concentrate at the actual problems. Safety and information usage.

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Theres a line between being addicted to certain unhealthy things and using the obvious advantage they bring.

Did you watch the video? Because it never talked about things like addiction, overdependance on technology or things like that. It basically just said that the current business model of buying up companies to increase market share has led us to a point where you can't do basic things without those companies being able to poke their fat little heads in to get data for whatever.
And I think she's correct, personally. It's not even a thought, it's a fact. Google owns such a huge portion of the ad market that you'd have to stay away from 90% of the sites with ads to actually not be in contact with Google. Also, add things like analytics, file management and so on. Even browsers are infested with these companies. You can't argue against simple facts. And the journalist never shamed anyone either and instead just gave different points. Mainly saying that it's easy to say that you can just stop using everything, but it's not as easy. While at the same time showing that you can do a lot of things that would avoid these 5 companies.

So I'm not sure where you saw that you were being persecuted here. It's not like you have to agree with everything either, but you have such strong feelings against the article that I'm just wondering why you feel so offended here. And where did you pick up some of the things you've said here/where were they mentioned?

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Addiction part wasnt related to video.
That is my own conclusion regarding the technology we use and overuse.
Im not offended either. Just continuing on the topic.
Of course shes correct regarding the data usage and the scope these companies reach.
I just find it unnecessary experiment. We already know google ownseverything.we already know facebook uses our information unnecessarely. Using or not using techmology really doesnt change a thing. We should be more concentrated on improving our privacy here. What does it change that one huge company controls internet.. mainly meaning - provides access to it. We just need security and rights to our intellectual property and data.
Again, I just find this unnevessary.

And if I misunderstood or missed some point there , i apolgise as im watching, reading and writing this being out of house on my phone

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Interesting.
Facebook, you must not exist.
It is doubtful that Amazon, some countries are about the same as a spy organization.
Microsoft , you guys are dubious.
Apple is scared of handling cloud data in China.
Google? Ten years ago, you had technology to link sources of large information from information on articles on one website, did not you?
As a Google Reader, I was wrong or the service was closed suddenly.
Human beings are too late to be involved with Google's spider thread. it can not be helped.
It is intertwined with spider thread.

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I setup an Amazon account once, and Amazon sent me a weekly email of things they thought I'd be interested in.
I never searched any of these products on Amazon, and yet they knew what I was buying on other non-amazon sites based on my paypal spending and ebay browsing, amongst other sites. That is the sort of thing that aint cool about Amazon.

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Simple answer from me:

  • I never used Amazone in my life
  • I don't have a Facebook account
  • Google well, sadly you need a Google account for an android and I use Google to search stuff
  • Microsoft is a hard one because I don't use their store or anything but I use Windows and that would be hard to cut out without losing stuff (many games and programs I have don't work on Linux for example)
  • Apple I have 0 products of so that's also an easy one.
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sadly you need a Google account for an android and I use Google to search stuff

Actually, you can use an Android phone without a Google account (you have a bunch of alternative stores like Aptoide, APKPure, F-Droid, and the Yalp Store which is an app to access the Play Store without a personal Google account), and other search engines like Duckduckgo or Qwant work more than decently.

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But are they just as save? I mean I can also download APK from the internet and install those, but there is a chance it gives problems (malware, virus, whatever it was) so I rather only use sources I know I can trust + lets be honest, it's hard to change from something you know of to something unknown.
Same with the Google search, I am used to that now, do the alternative work just as good or better? I know it sounds stupid but I am bad with changes!

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But are they just as save?

Never had a problem with Aptoide. Notably, they add a "trusted" badge next to apps for which they have verified that the signature matches the signature used on the Play Store.
Note that malicious apps still regularly happen on the Play Store itself. Just like any software, you can't just rely on a store to fully protect you from malicious developers: you have to be careful about what you choose to install.

Same with the Google search, I am used to that now, do the alternative work just as good or better?

You can just try them and see for yourself. In English, I find DDG as efficient. In local languages, maybe not as much. But anyway, it's easy to switch back and forth. What I like a lot with DDG is the bang syntax, for instance:

  • !w example will search directly on Wikipedia
  • !g example will search directly on Google (so when you're unhappy with the results of you search, you can just add !g at the start and boom you're doing the same search on Google)
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I use F-droid for many years now and I never got an issue. I don't have a Google account. I use Duckduckgo or Startpage. They themselves use Google to get you the results but they do not send your info to Google. The results are not the same as if you typed into Google though. Exactly for the reason that Google 'learns' about you - what you are likely REALLY looking for - so at first it might seem that Duckduckgo and Startpage can't find useful info. They just show you all the info they grabbed from Google. That way the result from them will be the same for you and your friend. It is not always the case with Google.

I hope my post is coherent, I am a bit tired, so feel free to ask for clarifications :)

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DuckDuckGo is Amazon, my dude.

Also, Android in its whole is Google. So if you're gonna try and avoid Google, then might as well get a new OS for your phone.

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DuckDuckGo is Amazon, my dude.

They're using AWS hosting, but they're not owned by Amazon. They're also, more worryingly, using a lot of Bing search results. That's still a step in the right direction. Notably, one can imagine that when they've grown enough they'll get their own infrastructure and buff up their own crawling capacities eventually.

Also, Android in its whole is Google

Again, getting rid of the Google Account is a first step in the right direction. But yeah, the Librem 5 is coming

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They're hosted, yeah. Though it's just the same to me since in the end you know who's calling the shots and that they're not independent.

The new OS looks pretty dope. Definitely interested in seeing whether it might be an option for my next phone in a few years.

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Not buying things from Amazon and "not using" Amazon are two different things. As the author of the article found out real quick, Amazon's big business is web hosting. You use Amazon services daily (just being on SG for instance) and we have no idea how much data they collect or what they do with it.

It's concerning but at this stage there is very little we can do about it. Hell, even the EU laws about data protection have resulted in very very little (if any) change because most people opted in data collection without even understanding it or they were conned into thinking they had opted out by cleverly worded buttons.

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Yes, I saw the videos later and it's kind of scary how many times you 'use' Amazone without knowing really, it's not even a choice anymore at this point because you don't even know which website uses it and even if you would ban them all out, what is left? Besides the fact that from what is left is also connected to Google and what not again so you just can't win!

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Yeah unless you want to live in a ranch in the mountains, Walking Dead style, and cut yourself from the rest of the world, there's not much we can do except make demands from our governments but as I said, they have big donors who aren't you and me.

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there's not much we can do except make demands from our governments but as I said, they have big donors who aren't you and me

It's almost as if the system is broken...

2 months ago
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But hey all we have to do is elect big douchebags who pretend they're going to clean politics and voila! System fixed. Oh no, wait...

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Isnt that blatant clickbait ? As expected from wired of course.
But the article talks about misusage of our data and how google and other big names take our search history and our internet usage as ground to advartise to us.
Brining in pregnancy and making it sound horrific, in my eyes is clickbait.

Dont get me wrong - this misusage of information is not right and I agree with author. I just think the style its written it is stupid. It just shows what I expressed before - our own addiction of takingour lives on social media. When a phrase "i tried to keep my pregmancy secret" comes to your mind it partly is your own problem for having so connected life with internet.

I mean I have encauntered targeted advertising and obvious data collection of these giants.
But saying you cant keep stuff from them is kind of a redflag you have change your life choices.
Again - ita regarding the pointless journalism not the technological problem at hand so you could say im venting here.

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Isnt that blatant clickbait ?

Not really, title matches the contents. I guess you could say they didn't use the best methods nor the best OPSEC, but this is still interesting as in: even if you really try, you'll have to be a real professional if you want to have a chance to successfully escape surveillance capitalism.

Brining in pregnancy and making it sound horrific, in my eyes is clickbait.

They're using a practical example that's more likely to help people realize what the problem is. I'd say it's communication. If you just say "surveillance is bad", most people will reply "I have nothing to hide", and keep watching 1984, Minority Report and The Matrix without realizing they're (kind of) living in those already.

partly is your own problem for having so connected life with internet.

Indeed they didn't cut the cord as much as they could. But they also reflected on the use made by others: even if you totally shield yourself from Big Tech, all those friends of yours who can't help sharing your personal info (contact details, pictures, ...) with Facebook, Google and the likes will doxx you anyway.

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Good points, Cant disagree with you
Thanks for answer

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Not sure "amusing" is the right term, but yeah, this too

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well, this cracked me up; not knowing whats going on in your house, but your retailer does

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Well, that's the thing with Big Tech: if you don't pay attention, they'll know more about yourself than you do. For instance, if you use Google, surely you don't know what you searched on it 5 years ago. But Google does. 👀

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Google I have to use in school (Google Docs)
Facebook I use to communicate with my family
Apple - I own an iPhone so mandatory
Microsoft - I use their mail service as well as their operating system
Amazon is not available in my country (you can still buy from there but no dedicated store), so no worries

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I knew that there was no amazon sverige but still I don't know why XD
I've read some weeks ago this blog post http://www.lamiavitasenzatacchi.com/ce-vita-oltre-amazon/ by an Italian girl living in lulea and she lists everything she does in order to replace amazon and it's quite strange =P the titles says like "there's life beyond amazon"

2 months ago
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Yeah we have a price comparing site called Prisjakt which compares every online stor for one item. At least we do not have the monopoly Amazon has.

2 months ago
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Facebook I use to communicate with my family

You can try Signal. It's doing the basic things right, just not fancy functions Facebook has.

2 months ago
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well, my family is not tech-savvy enough to use anything else than Facebook Messenger. All but one has iPhone, so if one switched, we could just use iMessage.

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While I only have a trash account on Facebook - still need it to follow news from some of my local publishers.
I don't use any Apple product - so no problem for me.
While I don't use Amazon since it's not available in my country and importing is prohibitively expensive, I rely quite a lot on local online stores. And yoi can't exactly cut Amazon from your life, since many things on the web are powered by it behind the scene.
Microsoft and Google - They rule my life.

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Interesting stuff, thanks caio!

It's good to be consciously aware of the fact that these five companies (and others) see us as a commodity to be bought and sold and traded.

But I think the final message is the most important: technology is great, but it's just a tool that's supposed to improve our lives. Now that technology is slowly becoming our lives, it's important to occasionally take a break and live in the moment with the people around us.

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I already live without Apple for years and before read this thread i didn't know i use Amazon. I use WhatsApp cause is cheaper than call and send sms, WhatsApp joined Facebook, but it's the only thing i use.

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There are replacements for WhatsApp, but unfortunately you need network effect so it can be useful. Try Signal.

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Thank you for the info, but nobody here have Signal and there's no limit to use WhatsApp with 3g, but only WhatsApp.

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It's an eye opener. Thanks for the article

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Thanks! :)

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Happy cakeday!

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Thank you :)

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I'd say it's a topic for discussion over a cup of coffee, not a topic to reach any notable conclusion.

There are more serious "offenders" like those two (or one?) major companies in the word who manage 80-85% of the food production. There are two or three major pharmaceuticals. There are only two major chemical companies. There are two or three countries controlling global fuel reserves. Finally, there is ONE country in the world which -for over 150 years now- controls every other country's finances, friends, foes, wars and existance.

In my country there are two companies that import and control all food products, cleaning products, all everyday use products. When they decide to bump up the prices, soap went up 50-70%, olive oil went up 250% and toothpaste costs 3x more than every other european country. Same thing happened with importers of electric appliances, importers of computer components etc. One or two companies control the price range of products, they don't import cheap stuff so our house budget bumped up A LOT.

I guess some things that keep happening for years are far more alarming than keeping our dickpics away from prying eyes. 😉

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You made very good points.
And let's not even get into the details of how those major companies pay for political campaigns all over the globe because that'd be depressing.

Every time I see a movie or tv show which believes it's edgy to depict a society ruled by corporations, I have to laugh my ass off.
As if that wasn't the case already.

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I love Amazon.
You can order a sack of shit and have it next day.

I also love google, because I can locate where to purchase a sack of shit.

Facebook, however, I can do without. I can always post photos of my sack of shit on Twitter.

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You can also order a box of 1000 live crickets.

most of the crickets died within the first week and half of them were dead in the box and they were shipped in the box directly so when you open the box they were jumping all over the place

Sounds great!

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Crickets seem like they would be harder to photograph for Twitter. Except the dead ones. I suppose I could pose them.

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Amazon - if you don't count the stuff hosted by them, piss easy
Facebook - deleted my account all the way back in 2010 or so, piss easy
Google - Gmail ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Microsoft - would limit the games I can play a little, but I can still happily use Linux without touching Windows for months which I have done multiple times in the past so piss easy.
Apple - never used a thing from them in my life so piss easy

So yea, if you would ignore AWS (because otherwise it is way too hard to live lol) all I would have to do is self host my email and I would be good to go :D

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TLDR?

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Amazon : I don't use it
Facebook: don't have it (nor twitter or instagram and such, nothing)
Google: It's not even the main search engine at work... can easily skip it at home
Microsoft: Well, I have a Windows Phone + I'm working on a PC all day so... this is difficult
Apple: fuck apple

So except for Microsoft, it's pretty easy.

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Ha ha ha ha...

...so well said.

[And I used to have a Windows Phone...LOVED it. Too bad that dream has kinda died. But don't worry, I went Android for my latest one, not Apple. Not EVER Apple. :D ]

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Amazon is too expensive. Why would anyone buy from there? I mean, any shipment of any product there to my country costs like quarter of minimum monthly wage.

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It's not the same everywhere. Here, Amazon is often the most affordable option. In contrast, IIRC, some countries like South Africa don't even have Amazon deliveries available to them.

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In some countries, they literally put most of their online competition out of business so if you don't live in a big city and need to buy some stuff, you're pretty much stuck with them.

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People completely failing to realize the importance of AWS and how "cutting out" amazon is almost impossible unless you never want to use the internet again

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Exactly this. I mention it above but some people just don't seem to understand.

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Don't worry the majority of internet users, this forum included, are that gullible and ignorant.

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It seems like it would be impossible to cut all five out of your digital life.

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Hmm interesting. Well I don't use Amazon, Facebook or Apple. I do use chrome but instead of google I use DuckDuckGo. It would be hard to ditch Microsoft tho. I use Linux on my laptop and windows on my desktop.

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When I was a teenager I used to walk to the phone box at the end of my street and phone the pub to see if my friends were in there. That was social media. Some people wouldn't believe how we used to live before the internet...

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Meh, never used Facebook nor anything Apple so that's no big deal.

For the rest I don't get why I should cut out potentially useful things just to prove something.

It's not like I smoke Windows, if capitalism created giants it ain't my fault, I always rooted for communism (so I'd get a share too) XD

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Nobody is saying you should cut anything. The article was just to prove a point: we are subject of an oligarchy very few of us even know about.
And the collection and usage of private data is massive.

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I didn't even open the links because I find that stuff stupid.
"I missed Facebook", "without Apple I'm devastated"... b-please, that's so stupid and clickbaity!

I do what I want anyway, and if to play FFRK I gotta use Play Store I do, just like if I wanted to play Sonic I needed a Megadrive.

Things like that don't really affect my daily life, it's not that I go out and google kicks my nuts, at best I see the same ads on web, for which I developed banner blindness anyway.

I have no money anyway so my data is worthless, no need to live the rebel life out of the system or read their stupid stories XD

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Ignorance is bliss I guess.

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Then you must be blessed by the gods themselves XD
Jokes aside, it's completely useless garbage to me.

Basically I don't care if somebody earns something out of me, I still get some benefit out of this.
There's always been somebody richer than me, so if to get something I want I have to somehow deal with him, be it the King, President, Mayor or Windows I do.

So what? Want a medal for using linux?
If I wanted to be a hermit I wouldn't be here, I'd stay on a high mountain peak with a llama and somebody would make me pay some "mountain tax" anyway.

(and don't dare to call me ignorant again)

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Merriam Webster - Definition - To Ignore

ignore (verb; transitive)
1 : to refuse to take notice of
2: to reject (a bill of indictment) as ungrounded

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That was the joke, but I guess you ignored it… ah, so blessed! XD

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What for?

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Do you use linux? If not you should use it. But be careful if you choose Ubuntu, because if had Amazon integration in 16.04, I don't know if it still has it.

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I am fine with using Linux, I have a netbook with Linux on it, but only if it can use all my programs (or a perfect replacement) and I can play all my games I own on it and because as far as I know not all Steam games work on Linux yet, it's a simple no for me.

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"If not you should"? Pffft… please!

Anybody can choose what they want.
As if anybody would change OS because a dude on steamgifts says so...

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ha scritto "you should", non "you have"

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Guarda che ho una laurea in traduzione e so leggere.
E comunque avresti dovuto scrivere "have to" oppure "must" invece di fare brutta figura.

Il punto è che con "if not" già crei una situazione di dicotomia, con "should" diventa "se no, dovresti" che praticamente vuol dire "se non fai così sbagli" ma soprattutto la mancanza di qualsiasi motivazione lo rende un consiglio stupido.

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tu stai trollando. e, per quello, non servono studi particolari.

apriti un thread, ancora meglio se altrove.

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Se per te essere in disaccordo significa trollare allora non afferri qualcosa.

Peggio per te che apri thread stupidi dove svendi clickbait.

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