I got burned by a developer like that. I like the comment that said remove greenlight. It definitely needs to be removed, it's heavily manipulated.
Comment has been collapsed.
While I completely agree that Greenlight is being manipulated, what about developers that use it legitimately and really do produce good games? How would they be able to get a game on Steam without it? I'm not arguing the point so much as wanting to know the alternative.
Comment has been collapsed.
There used to be a direct submission process, where Valve reviewed the applicant and quality gated publication. That needs to return.
Comment has been collapsed.
Ouch. It probably would be better overall to do that, given the amount of garbage that comes from Greenlight, but that long response time is disgusting. =X Thanks for the clarification!
Comment has been collapsed.
From the dev himself:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/485700/announcements/detail/501424872772661900
Hello community
Yes, I actually wrote a few reviews for Platformica in October 2016 and I'm really blame.
Iām worked 2 years on my three games and.....half day...games removed
I deserve itgj
Comment has been collapsed.
Wow, that's a surprisingly adult way to deal with it. (Unlike some other devs for example the one from Guardians of Orion & ORION: Prelude)
Regardless of what I think of devs manipulating reviews for their own games I have to give him some credit for that.
Comment has been collapsed.
Darkbase 01 comes to mind as a counter comparison (the dev threw a fit and uploaded vulgar screenshots to the store page when people posted negative reviews, leading to the game's removal).
Comment has been collapsed.
Yeah, a lot of small devs that don't have a PR department (and even some bigger ones like Phil Fish) do stuff like that, that's why I thought it was worth mentioning. The Orion lead dev had to ban himself from his own Steam Community forums because he couldn't refrain from insulting everthing and everyone :D
Comment has been collapsed.
I always suspected that there was quite a bit of this going on so it's good that they are cracking down
Comment has been collapsed.
Unmarketable cards. Have they finally started rolling this out to cards for other removed games? Are they finally closing Digital Homicide's profit loophole?
EDIT: Still marketable for now, but a rumor on some trading subreddits is that this goes Steam-wide in February to close the loophole, but I can't find a primary source for the information.
Comment has been collapsed.
These are only games to have unmarketable cards.
eg. in my intventory: http://imgur.com/7HJA0Tp
February information is about atorb in-game items. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/467530/Christmas%202016%20Pack
Comment has been collapsed.
Ah, makes sense. Guess the subs I'm getting info from are blowing one game's removal wildly out of proportion. Needs to be done though, in all honesty.
Comment has been collapsed.
Turns out they were right. Digital Suicide's library was completely stripped, among others. All games removed due to violation or due to "Valve ceasing business relations" are to be delisted.
Comment has been collapsed.
Perfect reason. Digital Homicide, the company booted from Steam for attempting to sue users over negative reviews against their asset flip games, gives away millions of remaining game keys to continue generating profit from card sales. Stopping them is reason enough.
Comment has been collapsed.
Cold Dreams (99 coins) Platformica (149 coins) - you can get this games if u use tremor games. > 70 copies in store
Comment has been collapsed.
http://steamground.com/en/wholesale 5 cents
don't know how reliable site is tho.
Comment has been collapsed.
Seriously, what kind of chickenshit outfit does not accept PayPal ?
Comment has been collapsed.
Pretty sure PSN and Nintendo eShop don't, but I haven't logged into either for over a year now.
Comment has been collapsed.
True but PSN at least has prepaid cards that every well stocked electronic store carries (not sure about Nintendo though).
Comment has been collapsed.
from what I remember of that site they have three bundles that they accept paypal for - but I have never trusted it enough to try and buy from them - all looks a bit hmmmm :)
Comment has been collapsed.
all looks a bit...
I know but I was willing to give it a try as long as they would have accepted PayPal. I mean what can go wrong as long as I use PayPal wallet. And even if I would have used PayPal direct debit PayPal will never pass my information to the seller, right ?
As far as I know that's partly the point of PayPal.
Comment has been collapsed.
true - might have even tried it myself if paypal was an option on the full thing - or even like DIG - load points onto system using paypal - but not gonna stick my CC in there without knowing much more about it :)
Comment has been collapsed.
Ended up trying one bundle (B Boss Bundle)
18 games for $1.88 after their paypal fees. (and 12 extras)
Got keys instantly
Let's see when they are revoked
Comment has been collapsed.
Bought one custom bundle today; Paid with bitcoins; more exactly, I exchanged 1 csgo key for bitcoins on one of those automated trading bots, and then bought the bundle; so basically I paid with steam wallet, just with a bit of fees ^_^
There is ~30 cents fee for buying custom bundle via bitcoins.
Among mentioned games, also is available Landfill which is today removed.
Prices look good, they are the same more or less like they were on DIG store when they started.
Comment has been collapsed.
WebMoney is the Russian paypal equivalent. They have been in business since 1998 like paypal. I have never had any issues with them. Up to you decide if want to create account with them.
Comment has been collapsed.
Yeah, that was the 3rd one I've heard of before beside the obvious VISA and Mastercard. I could just never bring myself to create an account for that (or Bitcoins) because I already have like a gazillion different accounts and don't want to create a new one for something I might just use once.
Comment has been collapsed.
The weird thing is the DIG store has most of this titles but 2x or 3x its price
Comment has been collapsed.
Maybe DIG sells from there?
Also Indie Gala has bundled most of these too :P
And tons of giveaways here, dat CV farming
Comment has been collapsed.
The new email from DIG rofl.
"New games in the DIG Point Store:
Galaxy in eclipse
Hard Room
Locked-in syndrome
Mad Hunter
Mortifero Motus
Nicolay s Adventure
One way to exit
Piximalism
Rest In Peace
Russian Underground: VR
Steel Invaders
Strongmind
Western Adventure
ZombieCarz
Anime! Oi history!
Ballistic Protection
Billiard: VR
Brain In My Head
Brave Dungeon
Catacomb Explorers
Crazy Forest
Era of Majesty
Escape The Island
Existentia
HellAngel
KickHim
Nanooborg"
Comment has been collapsed.
hm, looks iffy, but the prices are tempting so i tried anyway.. after waiting more than an hour for the bitcoin payment to clear, got 50 working keys (not for these particular games, since i had 'em already)
thanks for the link, will probably use again :)
Comment has been collapsed.
multiple Steam accounts controlled by the developer of this game, Lunyov Artem Pavlovych
[...]
For these reasons, we are ending our business relationship with Brian King and removing this game from sale.
Poor Brian King, never will know what hit him :(
(He was the dev of the also removed Ballanced. Apparently Support's copy-paste skills are spreading at Volvo
Comment has been collapsed.
darnit... I was posting that.
But on the plus side, Valve's finally doing something to clean up it's storefront.
Comment has been collapsed.
Yep. Though they really could set a minimum length (like.. 100 characters?) for reviews - having one word, or just a period as a negative review is just a slap to their system as well
Comment has been collapsed.
Could also implement content detection (character repetition, etc.). The "review doge" meme would get past a character limit yet be just as meaningless.
Comment has been collapsed.
hmmmm - what about keys from bundles - will they still activate?
Comment has been collapsed.
Just guessing but only in a few, very select cases have the devs had the audacity to deactivate unused keys.
Comment has been collapsed.
Is there some kind of timeline of those removed games somewhere? For historical purposes or something. It seems this is becoming more and more common.
Comment has been collapsed.
They should have just added 1000 achievements to each game.
Comment has been collapsed.
we need to build a wall to stop greenlight
also
poor brian
Comment has been collapsed.
another trash removed today - Anime! Oi history!
http://steamcommunity.com/app/581280/
keys deactivated
stolen music
Comment has been collapsed.
That's not the only one that bites the dust today, we also have the following ones:
Cargo! - The quest for gravity
Geometry Dash
Landfill
Comment has been collapsed.
I didn't read up on why the games were pulled, just fastly checked https://steam-tracker.com/changelog when I saw your post :]
Obvisiouly there have been talks about malware in Landfill so that didn't come as a suprise...
Comment has been collapsed.
it will be back :) devs only have to sort something out with unlicensed music
Comment has been collapsed.
According to the Removed Games Collectors group in 2016 on Steam there were:
119 removed games
58 disabled games
18 removed software
9 removed videos
68 games that returned to the Steam store
Comment has been collapsed.
A game called Landfill being removed from Steam because it was toxic (apparently contained a Trojan)...
I like the irony in that :D
Comment has been collapsed.
Another one to the list of disabled and removed games.
Comment has been collapsed.
Unfortunately some folks are ruining the indie spirit.
Comment has been collapsed.
Unfortunately there will always be some rotten apples in the basket, be it some indies folks, Steam users, SG users or others. I just hope they will be no more than a minority and that they drop through the basket and be debunked for what they really are. :X
Comment has been collapsed.
I see plenty of crap running DIG.
That's not what I signed for as an indie dev, 15 years ago.
Comment has been collapsed.
That's all well and good, but it punishes the people that have the cards, and want to try and complete the Badges for it. I don't trade (15 day hold puts a kibash on that), so that pretty much sucks for me (and people like me).
What Valve should do is make the cards still available to buy/sell on the Market, but remove the Developer(s) from getting a cut from the cards being sold. That way it would benefit both Valve and the paying customers.
Comment has been collapsed.
ZombieRush is not purchasable anymore and trading cards can't be sold on the market.
Comment has been collapsed.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/485700/announcements/detail/501424872771246490
For these game cards no longer can be sold in market - trading still available.
So many games removed due to same reason in last weeks due to this.
Comment has been collapsed.