Enjoy your trip in the depths of the Sea! LANDLOVA!
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He should of Contacted Steam Support who could of sorted it out
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a) It's against the law. End of discussion.
b) If he had done this, he would ask support.
b) Cracks can cause problems. Oh, he has a problem. Too bad, that he can't get support.
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Covered by § 69e UrhG here in Germany and so exactly this is in a grey zone, imho. And the Witcher gave out DRM free copies, too. But his crack obviously don't work, so just: no. :D
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Depends: My country (Germany) says: § 69e UrhG: You can use a crack, if there is not only one other method to make it run. But you'll never bypass DRM. Even if the DRM is... hmm let's compare it to a passworded file with the code "0000". You are not allowed to bypass this "security"
Other countrys, other laws. At least all Steamgames want you to accept US-law. And you can ask Kim Schmitz, they take that serious.
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"We got a badass over here." Learn to actually read idiot.
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People still shouldn't make assumptions so quickly and post negative comments. :P
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If you knew anything at all Anybody can play Skyrim without steam. Just go into steam folder and start using the TESV.exe via shortcut. So I suggest you people apologise for calling somebody a pirate just because you don't know all the facts. and you assume you know everything.
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I have yet to hear any reasonable arguments against piracy. Only propaganda from companies that don't have a clue why people pirate and how it affects the company's finances. It's sad to see so many people buy into that propaganda.
To elaborate:
If someone pirates a game, enjoys it, then goes on to buy it, is that bad? Certainly not! The fact is, that person might have never bought it if he hadn't played it for free first.
If someone pirates a game, finds it to be crap, and doesn't buy it, is that bad? Of course not! Without piracy, that person might have bought the game, thus supporting a company that releases bad games. Further, a bad purchase makes it less likely that the person would trust game developers in the future.
If a kid, who doesn't have any way to buy games, pirates a game, is that bad? Again, not at all! He/she wouldn't have been able to buy the game anyway, so the developer loses nothing. On the other hand, when that kid grows up and can afford games, he/she is likely to buy games that he/she pirated and enjoyed in the past. Ever heard of nostalgia purchases?
If a person who can't afford games pirates a game, is that bad? I certainly don't think so. That person wouldn't have bought the game anyway, but he/she might convince friends to buy good games and stay away from bad games. Exposure is critical to the success of indie studios, and word of mouth is a big part of that. Furthermore, as with the kid, that person might be able to afford games at a certain point in life, leading to nostalgia purchases.
If a person owns a game but chooses to crack it, is that bad? I'm struggling to imagine arguments in opposition of this activity.
If a person buys a game with restrictive DRM and pirates it to circumvent the DRM, is that bad? Well, it's bad that the person bought the game without doing his/her research. One should never support a publisher/developer that uses aggressive DRM. Imagine finding out that you have to re-purchase a game after 3 or 5 installs. Or that you have to install a DRM platform that kicks you out of your singleplayer game when it loses connection to the company's servers. If companies treat customers like crap, they deserve a 100% piracy rate.
Note that I also consider having to keep a CD/DVD in the drive as restrictive DRM.
So, with all those groups eliminated as harmful, what are we left with? People who can afford to buy the games they enjoy but choose not to. I don't know what percentage of all pirates are part of this group, but I see no reason to pretend that it's 100%. It's just silly.
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"If a person who can't afford games pirates a game, is that bad? I certainly don't think so. That person wouldn't have bought the game anyway, but he/she might convince friends to buy good games and stay away from bad games. Exposure is critical to the success of indie studios, and word of mouth is a big part of that. Furthermore, as with the kid, that person might be able to afford games at a certain point in life, leading to nostalgia purchases."
Yes, because thats NOT how capitalism works. Go read a book about it.
"If a person buys a game with restrictive DRM and pirates it to circumvent the DRM, is that bad? Well, it's bad that the person bought the game without doing his/her research. One should never support a publisher/developer that uses aggressive DRM. Imagine finding out that you have to re-purchase a game after 3 or 5 installs. Or that you have to install a DRM platform that kicks you out of your singleplayer game when it loses connection to the company's servers. If companies treat customers like crap, they deserve a 100% piracy rate. Note that I also consider having to keep a CD/DVD in the drive as restrictive DRM."
Yes, because that hurts EVERY single customer. Because the Developers will use this to make the DRm even more restrictive. Seen that happen many times now.
"If a kid, who doesn't have any way to buy games, pirates a game, is that bad? Again, not at all! He/she wouldn't have been able to buy the game anyway, so the developer loses nothing. On the other hand, when that kid grows up and can afford games, he/she is likely to buy games that he/she pirated and enjoyed in the past. Ever heard of nostalgia purchases?"
Again, thats not how capitalism works. Or do you steal something out of a shop because you cant buy it? I doubt that.
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It's silly to compare software piracy to stealing - with software, the content isn't stolen, it's being replicated. At no cost to the developer/publisher.
And you claim that companies being stupid is a reason for consumers to act stupid? Really?
If a company doesn't realize that DRM alienates customers and promotes piracy, then they deserve to go bankrupt. They will not be missed. Just look at how many games are constantly being released, not to mention the hundreds of great games already out there. It's hard to find a Steam user without a backlog. Gaming is in a state of oversaturation, not of scarcity. Foolish developers going out of business is not something to worry about.
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Yes, I compare it to stealing because thats what it is. You´re stealing someones work result. And it doesnt matter thats it gets replicated as you´re stealing someones literary property. You want to use it? Pay for it.
And yes, everyone whos pirating a game because of its DRM basically hurts the honest customer as the DRM will only get more restrictive in the long run. The only good solution would be to NOT BUY the game. But I guess you wont understand it at all. You should really go and read something about intellectual property.
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Now you're just making no sense.
If piracy is stealing, then what is the developer/publisher losing exactly? They can't lose the work result, it's theirs regardless of how many people pirate it.
Like I already said, the more restrictive DRM gets, the less people will buy the products and the sooner the offending company will go bankrupt. So what's your point?
Don't forget that I already said buying a product with restrictive DRM is bad. It's in my first post, you quoted it.
Finally, saying "Go read about X" is a really bad argument. If you have a point to make, just do so.
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No, you really have to read something about intellectual property. Because if you´re not paying for it, you´ve no right to use it whatsoever. And from the law sight of view (in many countries) it is indeed stealing, or atleast comparable to it.
And you said yourself that someone should indeed pirate a game because of its DRM. And that sir, is a really terrible approach as that will only make the DRM for the next game even more restrictive.
There is just one possible solution to break thru this cycle and that is to not buy the game (and dont even think about pirating it). Period.
Also, I dont really care about what Notch says. Even more, if he encourages you to break the law.
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minecraft's creator notch tweeted something about piracy
https://twitter.com/notch/status/157261795139125248
(too lazy to make a link)
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I'm also boycotting Ubisoft. Something recent that I'm mad at them about is Anno 2070. The fact that they put such a tiny activation limit on it means that they expect nobody will want to re-install it years from now. So they're basically admitting they screwed up completely with the gameplay. And yet they still released the game at full price, hoping to squeeze some money out of unsuspecting customers.
Bad games aside, the fact that you lose access to something you paid money for after installing it on 5 computers (or after 4 hardware changes on 1 computer) is so insulting to the customer that it doesn't even warrant a discussion.
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I agree with most of what you say, but piracy is always a gray area and I can think of some examples of why it should be fought:
Software developers spend huge amounts of time and money to create their product and they will only continue to do this if they can actually make a living from it. It should be their own choice how to distribute and price their products, and in the case of games their products are merely a luxury and no-one can claim that they have any right to play the game if they don't agree with the developers distribution choices. If the developers make choices that consumers don't agree with (restrictive DRM, high prices, etc.), then consumers should just not buy their products so that the developers can either go bankrupt or learn to change their ways.
If games become cracked and are then copied and sold by illegal distributors, the people that worked hard to create the game suffer.
There are often people that can afford the game, but just buy illegal copies simply because the prices are cheaper and they want to save a quick buck. Why would a kid save a few months of their allowance to buy a game later, if they can buy it cheaper now from some guy at school that sells illegal copies. When these people choose to buy the games from illegal distributors, none of their money goes to the developers of these games.
I think people that make money from distributing pirated games should be punished. I do not think DRM solves anything to fight piracy. DRM will only work if it is just as non-invasive for legal consumers as for those with illegal copies of the game, and if the DRM isn't broken (which it always is). In the end I agree with most of what you said, but developers should have the right to protect their product in some cases (and within bounds).
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The problem with what you say is that these "illegal distributors" don't exist anymore. Or at least they haven't been seen in years where I live. Maybe they still exist in some countries, I don't know.
Ever since internet connections became common, everyone gets games/movies/music from torrent sites, for free. They don't pay anyone anything. And the only income for the people running the websites is from advertisements. Which are never very profitable, but probably cover the running costs at least. I don't have exact figures, I can't say for sure.
As for those that don't have an internet connection, they have to rely on friends who do.
In fact, selling copies is already illegal just about everywhere. Whereas sharing copies for free is not. In my posts, I was only talking about the latter. I had even forgotten the former had ever existed until I read your post.
Finally, I disagree with you on not pirating if you don't like the developer's chosen distribution method. It's a matter of showing the developer how much potential customers they have. If there was no piracy and the only measure of a game's popularity was sales, then devs and publishers wouldn't know if a game has low sales because there isn't much interest in the gameplay it offers or because of bad distribution choices. Instead, a game with low sales and low piracy is one which isn't very popular. And a game with low sales and high piracy is one that people are interested in, but for some reason refuse to buy. Then it's up to the publisher to talk to the pirates and find out what their complaints are.
Sadly, developers and especially publishers fail to realize this.
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Interesting. Maybe that's his problem...
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Is this happening long time now or is it something that showed up lately? 'Cause i saw a post of Valve that they gonna do some maintenance on servers etc and we might have some lags interruptions and stuff. But I don't really remember when they supposed to do that. If it's not that it might be his Ram it might uses all capacity with steam open but its enough without steam open...?! don't really know.
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Well not a clue. Providing more system information on your post it might help the nerds to find out something.
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'Skyrim non-steam' - skyrim is only on steam unless you have a illegal torrent.............
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I used to pirate games but then I took a Steam Sale to the PC !
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I like how almost all the replies are about the piracy. I mean, morality is just such a black and white thing and all. Truly.
Regardless of the legality and morality of pirating it, it at least helps us figure out the problem. If it works without Steam but not with it, clearly the problem's with Steam. The best thing I can think of is what was already suggested: Disable the Steam in-game system. Given your problems, I think that might very well work; I think I've had an issue or two with it myself, in the past.
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Yeah, I know the feeling. I can see that being a legitimate reason for it, especially if your PC's kind of crap. Like mine was. For like five years. I've also heard of people doing that for games without demos, and I can see the reason there as well. Sort of.
Also, I'm not outright /saying/ that I used to download a couple Gameboy Advance games that I somehow lost in my childhood. But if I did, I wouldn't have regretted it.
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Bugger. Hrm. As useless as Steam Support can be, I would definitely recommend asking them about it. Just...Don't mention you cracked Skyrim. Just say that you can run high-end games well that aren't on Steam.
Other than that, I'm not sure what the issue could be. This does remind me of when I used to play on Gametap, though. (Ah, those were the days. It never did like my PC, though. I managed to baffle /every single person in their tech support hotline/.) The games ran fine, but the client stayed open in the background, and caused massive lag. Since it was Gametap, though, you couldn't turn it off.
In this case, though, I /think/ Steam games still work if you shut down the client while the game's open. Try opening the game, then going to your processes/task manager and shutting down Steam. See if it helps, you never know.
EDIT: Yes, you can do this and the game will still run. At least with Cthulhu Saves The World. Try it out, see if it helps.
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I'm sorry, I don't get the sh*tstorm here. He owns Skyrim, it lags like hell in steam as does all his other steam games, he tried everything he can think of, and as a last resort tries a crack...and the game plays fine. Obviously, he's having a steam problem, not a piracy problem. Get of your high horses and offer a solution instead of morales, please.
Sorry to say i can't help, never encountered this problem.
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Sorry, too. But the OP doesn't give infos about this "laptop". What to do with it. I have a laptop, too and it can run Skyrim on "high". That's why I looked up system requirements before I bought a untradeable game. But he's doing wrong everything, he could do.
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What laptop-specs do you have exactly? Or why didn't you test the system requirements or even tested the game with the crack before buying it?
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Did I mention that I did not asked for that?
Anyways, if it already worked there is always a simple solution: Save all games except Skyrim on an external hard drive. Uninstall everything, including Steam. Download Steam again and install it. Install Skyrim from CD/Download. Try again. If it's not working make a support ticket. If working use your backups to get you other games back.
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Submit a support ticket or buy a better PC :P
The only thing left: Did you deactivate all mods, especially the high-res mod?
EDIT: And when you uninstalled it, did you clear the whole Steam folder on C:/ and your whole registry? And don't forget the files in your appdata folder.
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i never had that kind of problem, so i cant help you
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I would honestly say it's better to game on a desktop rather than a Laptop but surely if his laptop is decent enough it should run the games he wants to play. I would blame it on the laptop but I think we'll be able to help determine this once you gets the specs for his laptop. :3
Also, He could always try moving the steam folder to a different location on his HD. It probably won't do anything but it's worth a shot and make sure that Steam is on the same partition as Windows, you never know it could be something weird like this. Good luck sir and don't give up! :)
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Ah, If I can think of anything that's helpful I'll leave you another reply. I don't really know what I'm talking about. The specs aren't half bad for that laptop though! It shouldn't be acting up. Also have him contact support for his laptop. They may be able to help if they even attempt to help. xD
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Nah, the companies support who put out his laptop.
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Assumption: if you use some sort of cracks,(and you use it to run the other skyrim,) than it may interfere with steam-platform. Try to delete the version that working and all the "programes", that you need to run skyrim.
[Another reason: it is a laptop - may be it's overheating and shouting down]
[- can you play your games with your account on his computer?
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1) it isn't because of any programs, since he has played TF2 and alot of other games before and then got lag.
2) it isn't overheating, did a test specificaly for that, and he just lags and then continues playing.
3) thats something we must try, thanks for tip :)
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2) Give laptop some air. Put it on some two planks on the sides :D (I'm seriously)
4) if you have not tried: right mouse-button on skyrim in steam -> properties -> local data -> check for errors (I don't have english version, so I hope you find, what I mean ;)
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For me steam takes about 5-15fps on games, I've tested some games both pirated and original steam, and seems that steam does get heavy for no reason.
Also his laptops GFX is pretty damn weak. I'd say try to buy a laptop GFX (not cheap at all) or get a desktop. "^.^
There isnt much to be down unless those 2, or lowering the graphics all the way down (turn off shadow)....Thats all I have.
Read that its Steam only....did you try reinstalling steam? (worst/last test possible).
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I have a Pentium dual core ,GEFORCE 8800 GTS and 8 gigabootys of RAM I run skyrim ultra all the time but when its comes to when people are
shooting in Fallout: NV LAGAGAGAGAA ROMA ROMAMA but this only hppens when the game is fully updated computers are fickle...
also fully support pirates AAAAARRR but its ok because I'm a pc specialist.
so everyone chill a walk the dinosaur
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You support pirates? how are the people who work at EA gonna be able to buy the latest Porsche models this year you selfish bastard!
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8800GTS, Dual Core, 8gb ram, support pirates, runs skyrim on ultra, Walk the dinosaur....
Cant tell if puzzle....
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how about to run steam offline... then you dont need a crack... :D
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HE (ME ACTUALLY) CRACKED SKYRIM FOR HIM SO HE CAN ATLEAST PLAY IT
Hey, a friend (and a sh*tload of people) has problems with steam games....
any game on steam he plays is this way: play => lag => play => lag => ...
we tried alot:
updating videocard/soundcard.
reinstalling steam and games.
checking if it isnt GPU overheating.
cooling motherboard with external ventilator.
deactivating unneccesairy programs.
checking for malware.
and we run out of solutions :/
can someone help us?
add me or post here =) (i do most of the things for him because he doesn't know much about the technical sh*t about PC's).
ADDIONAL INFO:
he uses a laptop.
only on steam games (tested this, he can't play TF2, but he can play Skyrim non-steam (EDIT: HE HAS LEGAL COPY, BUT HE USES CRACK FOR NON-STEAM).
don't know if it matters, but it mostly happens when he goes fighting, action, ...
he can run Skyrim and BF3 (which lags, possible because of same reason (Origin is like steam a platform)) so it isn't about old GPU/CPU.
LAPTOP SPECS:
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