“It’s not worth getting bullied endlessly”: Major Streamers Already Avoiding Hogwarts Legacy

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How the bullying looks like in that case ?

The joke is that she pandered to the western political left for years in increasingly ridiculus and shameless fashion, retroactively retconning her own universe for the sake of gaining favour and trying to stay relevant by showering in a spectacle of political correctness. And they held her in high regards for that.
Up until the transgender opinion. She just slightly stepped out of line (in all honesty, her takes were mild at most, nothing hateful) and these lunatics started what they do best: eating their own over even the least significant little disagreement, retroactively finding "problematic" things in the HP universe too.
Civil disqussion was never an option and I am sad to see the same religious zealously appearing here on SG too. :( Its crazy how otherwise kind people can get bursting with hate over things that are ultimately not even worth fighting over.
That said, I am sure Hogwarts Legacy is doing otherwise fine and this streamer bullying wont affect the sales in any significant manner. The most it will achieve is ruining a few days of some unfortunate people who would be otherwise irrelevant to this overzealus mob.

Looks like a bunch of people blacklisted me for even though I disagree with JKR, I dont believe in harassment or hate on those who do agree, or even just play the game.

i stream and nobody sees me so, no problem with the bully (?

Wait till you tell these same people who made their iPhone.

Everyone should just stream this instead: https://youtu.be/zInj8_pYyck
But seriously...when did the world descend into a bunch of hippos. Everyone has the right to freedom of speech, expression or opinion Whether or not you agree with JKR's values and opinion does not change them. Neither will bullying.

I honestly feel she would have been treated differently if she was Jewish or Muslim (both openly disapprove same as JKR) These cowards wouldn't dare because of what it would cost them.
In the end...people will always be people...I'll leave it at that.

Someone on the audience reminds a random streamer about the controversy regarding the game, streamer is mildly annoyed, This is not hateful behavior or censorship or violence, just the audience having their part of the free speech.

Not gonna lie, I'd love if people started getting afraid of associating with racists and terfs, but it basically doesn't happen. A lot of people are streaming the game without any repercussion. There is no "censorship" happening, articles saying otherwise are manufacturing outrage.

It would be nice if this thread had a few trans people sharing what they think about this instead of cis people starting wars on the behalf of others.

people are allowed to have opinions, you are allowed to not like someone else's
if you are offended because someone does not believe what you believe, or will not support your boycott, that is on you
if you let them know you do not like what they are doing and they still do it, and it still offends you, that is still on you, and does not give you the right to harass or bully them.
if people tried to "bully" me on stream for playing a game based on the intellectual property of a person who said something that made them upset, I would probably find that funny and even feel some pity that they are that upset and are attempting to take it out on me because no one else wants to listen to them.
I can assure you all, while we are currently locked in a stalemate of political correctness, we're almost at the boiling over point, if you can't do or say anything without an angry mob chasing you down trying to "cancel" you, then what's the point?
want to guarantee the corporations and governments continue to gain all the power over every aspect of your life? keep blacklisting each other and calling each other names, it's going great, things are definitely getting so much better.
we're all in this together, most of the hate is fake, played up by the media for clicks and to give them something to report on.
it's crazy but if you touch grass and go outside, dare I say it, socialize....there is a completely different world to the fake one being presented to you on your screen...don't let a screen tell you what to think.
take care everyone <3

Shocking truth about me: I still consider H.P. Lovecraft to be a good author and enjoy reading the stories. I also hate racists. How that works out is something everybody should think about for themselves. I do understand if people boycott a game because they don't want people involved getting money, Just don't hate people that enjoy a game you don't want to support. That's just silly.

This "being offended" era can't end soon enough. If you don't like it, don't watch, don't read, don't play, etc.

Not going to stop it from being a likely "Game of the Year"

Every single thing I've seen on it looks pretty damned great. The "boycott" was/is a complete fail (like pretty much all woke boycotts are, you can't "Vote with your wallet" if you never voted there before)

As an aside, maybe I should buy it and start streaming, Views is views! :D

"Separate the art from the artist" + "freedom of speech" + "the devil you know"

I did consider writing about this and then after reading the comments I changed my mind.. What I want to add (which is a repeat) is that justifying the means for the end isn't a good thing.. That's just the same "law of the jungle" they hate so much

Unfortunately it is a world and people. It is not like people are different on internet, they just feel more free, anonymous and does not afraid of any consequences. And it is sad. Unfortunately I have lost most of my faith in people (in general as a big mass and not only about hate but more in general meaning). Dont get me wrong, there are many, many "beautiful souls" and great individual people etc, but unfortunately it looks like they does not make most in numbers. And I hope I am wrong about it (as f.e. haters are louder too :) ).

BTW: I hate mindless hate (which sounds strange with 2 hate words ;) ).. I can not understand that some people put so much effort to just make other life worse or more miserable or even "destroy" other lives. And it is just simple. If you does not like game/book just dont play it, dont watch it or dont read it. Let others life their lives or chose content they like. Simple as that.

Thing is, those boycotting this game, they never done this for Universal Studio's ticket sales, merch, food, or Lego, Mattel, Spin Master, Nintendo (they dipped in and have a contract with her also iirc)...but when a game with no ties with her besides the flat fee she took to allow them to use her IP to make the game, and that's the hill they die on. The same hill they'll take to twitter, who is owned by another transphobe, gets money from all the traffic, and actively shits on trans people, but yet....has a trans child they ignore.

Makes sense.

I've been a massive Dragon Quest fan for a very long ass time, I've learn to separate the art from the artist. It ain't hard, enjoy what you enjoy, don't make everything out to be a political choice.... :\

Harry Potter is here to stay.
And the "money" she gets from this game is peanuts on her bank account in reality.
She is laughing her way to the bank, oblivious to everything that is going on.
So in my opinion the people who go on Twitch and Youtube and harrass/bully people there are in fact very small brained people.

I dislike Rowling and I get the sentiment. But this is the first time I've seen literal websites with hitlists of channels that played it and just a blind "no discussion" policy I've seen with such stuff. Usually it's boycotting and so on, but here's it's more about actively going after someone who indulges in media that benefits someone who's vile against them.

I'm not saying "don't steep to their level" for any anti-Rowling people since stooping low often is the way to actually make change happen. But this game really is like the smallest impact fight they could've picked. Inevitably Rowling will barely profit from this since she's so far down the chain of people that get their cuts.

Like even if they stop, let's say, 500,000 copies from being sold, she'll still probably lose maybe less than a million in royalties. There's at least 5 gates of cuts to profit before her.

To me, it definitely reeks of the "public nuisance" category of protests. You know, the ones where people sit in the way of ambulances to protest climate change or something. The sentiment is admirable, but all you're doing is making yourself look like the dummy since there's like a million better ways to actually make an impact.

You can care for multiple things at the same time of course and so I'm not going to say "What about this problem and that problem?" but I will say that it's depressing to see the most ardent and aggressive in this thread being completely fine with literally paying direct money to companies that directly are known to commit rapes, sexual assaults, tax frauds, employee abuse and other legitimately evil shit.

This seems like a very convenient line in the sand. The lazy man's protest. "I wasn't gonna buy it, so I might as well claim it's out of protest."

I do hope it's not the case, but like... c'mon.

I hope cancel culture cancels itself one of these days. Is such a stupid movement in general, if you do not like something, you don't partake in it, if someone else does, and they aren't violating other's people human rights, then just let them be.

Apparently it's sales are already massive, so that shows how much influence these "activists" actually have.

I will not be getting the game. But the outrage and moral posturing around this game made by a relatively unknown studio is more entertaining than the game will ever be to me.

The nutjobs who send death threats to streamers have shown their hand. They're also blithering idiots, and have learned nothing of the "Streisand effect". There hadn't been a "Wizarding World" game in almost a decade. and JKR was persona non grata. Those violently opposing this game's release did more to lionize gamers who were unlikely to purchase it.

Before people blame this all on the trans community remember there are ALWAYS trolls and griefers out there. Especially on Twitch. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the bullying are from people pretending to be trans and using this as an opportunity to spread hate and misery.

Well, I think it's been long enough for me to ask this- If you didn't expect the discussion to be "clean", then why did you start it? What did you expect to happen other than people pointlessly arguing and developing grudges over... a whole lot of nothing?
Not every hit-piece "story" out there deserves to be propagated. <.<

I'm so f'king tired of this crap. I am trans. JK gets royalties from this crap. She has the ability as known creator to affect people's views and opinions, which she has been doing for YEARS. Long before it became common knowledge that she's transphobic. You want to play it, fine, but do so knowing trans folks will not consider you an ally knowing this no matter how much you scream at the top of your lungs that you are. Ohno, Cancel culture, woke culture, PC blah blah blah. Boofkinghoo.

I am so damn tired of these childish arguments against people who are literally just wanting to exist without the rest of society trying to dictate whether their existence is okay. Trans people aren't hurting anyone by existing. Trans people have existed far longer than the past 20 years most people became aware of us. Much MUCH longer. The whole idea that the existence of someone like me is debatable is a narcissists idea of a joke. If you think supporting someone who actively wants to hurt a marginalized group is okay. Well, to be quite honest...? Get fked.

Hi Lugum, I suggest you to move this thread to Off Topic because this conversation is clearly not about gaming or Steam related.

Transes are not women. From what JK have sayed shes just defending the women because it have gone too far with this tolerancy.