My laptop (MSI GT70 0NC) has decided it wants to be derp and crash with a BSOD everytime i play a newer game, specifically the two games i am (was) playing for the moment, BF3 and Cities: Skylines.

In Skylines, the PC crashes as soon as my map is loaded. I get around 2-3 seconds of time moving my view around, before the PC completely freezes and the BSOD happen.

Battlefield 3 pretty much the same.. maybe 20 seconds more.

What am I looking at? A broken driver or a broken card? I've had the GPU in this laptop crash and burn once before and got it changed, and the only thing that happened back then, was that the system suddenly couldn't find my GPU. No crashes, no BSOD's.

I actually just cleaned out my laptop today, because i was getting these BSOD's yesterday too. Heatsinks were absolutely smeared in dust. Now it's all clean and my temperatures doesn't reach 90-100 degrees celsius when gaming anymore.. at least, that's what i think, because i haven't tried to run Cities with Core Temp running on my second screen. I don't want it to crash anymore, because i fear it hurting the hardware.

Currently I am running the newest NVIDIA driver. Should i remove that and install the standard driver that came with my Laptop? If so, what is the best tool to completely remove the driver with?

tl;dr: HALP PLOX!

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NVIDIA y u do dis??

If it's a hardware failure, crashing won't hurt it, it's actually the OS stopping everything before anything bad happens.
But even if you cleaned up the dust, maybe the damage is already done.

Can you try to play a 1080p video from Youtube for more than 10min?
Does it happen with 'simpler' games?

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My browser, and therefore, Youtube, runs on the integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000.
Will try running Battlefield 2 (on my dedicated nvidia card of course) and monitor my temperatures at the same time.
I'll be back in 10 minutes, or shorter, if it crashes in the firery death of the BSOD :p

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Disable the Intel graphics in device manager.

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I'm back early.. sadly.
Just tried Battlefield 2. Everything ran smooth, until the map was loaded, and therefore, the GPU tasked with loading a 3D enviroment.
In my experience, the card works just fine rendering 2D. It's as soon as it has to render something 3D that it dies.
Temperatures at crash, as monitored with Core Temp, were 70 degress celsius on Core #0 and about 50 for the rest.
I have been gaming at temperatures much higher than that for the past few months, so i don't think temperatures are the problem.

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Sounds like your graphic card is dying.

EDIT: Try running Cities: Skyline and Battlefield 3 with the Intel HD and see if they crash. Despite what those games say they will run on an Intel HD 4000. It they don't crash then your Nvidia is faulty.

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Will try now.

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Just ran Cities on Intel HD Graphics 4000.
Frames were awful, I got about 9-20.
It didn't crash though. Everything worked, and the temperature for the cores stayed at about 66 for Core #0 and about 40-50 for the rest.

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Congratulations, your Nvidia needs to be replaced.

Seriously though, it sucks to have to replace a graphic card,

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Well.. shit.
My 2 year warranty expired last year. I bought the laptop back in 2012.
Gonna be expensive to replace i guess..

It was my own fault really. I should have cleaned it a long time ago.
Thing is, i was afraid of doing something wrong while opening the Pc and taking out the parts, because i don't have money for a new PC or expensive repairs.
Guess that only helped towards breaking it..

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Laptop cards don't usually last too long anyway, they're under way more stress than desktop ones.

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And then there's me, the Emperor who doesn't have an expensive laptop (has a craptop) and doesn't get the BSOD. Now, let me laugh! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Sad to hear. I've had BSOD once in 4 years. I've never cleaned my craptop and it can barely run some games. I don't know how I could help You, but good luck with fixing it! It's probably crap and doesn't have anything to do with it, but maybe installing "Razer Game Booster" will help. Sorry, I don't know anything about BSOD :)

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Your "craptop" runs Shadow of Mordor?

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Yes.

(That res though. My FPS was 15-20)

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Low res is a great trick. With my old laptop I had to run the Batman games at 640x480.

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what is the best tool to completely remove the driver with?

I use this one a lot: https://driverstoreexplorer.codeplex.com/

(run as admin if you want to delete a driver)

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I fear to remove and reinstall the drivers.
Sometimes when i've updated or reinstalled drivers, when the Pc reboots after removing drivers, it defaults to the NVIDIA GPU for rendering.
The way i can tell that, is by my power button. When it flashes white, it means the laptop is using integrated graphics, and when it's flashing red, it means it's using the dedicated gpu.

I dunno. Safe Mode probably works no matter what.

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Don't worry, you most certainly can try to reinstall drivers, although it looks like you have a damaged RAM chip on your graphics card.
I would try to lower memory clocks with MSI Afterburner first.

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No idea what's happening to your laptop, but this should be in off-topic. Bugs/Suggestions if for things related to this site (not trying to be an ass, I'm just letting you know)

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i think its your PSU
and cutting power to your GPU.
really had a problem similar to yours on my brother comp. not laptop)

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PSU issues usually end up with the computer/laptop shutting down, not BSOD'ing.

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well, not true. since i know from experience. sometimes they just shut something down. or the motherbord does, but that's the problem i had... and it burned one of my rams that also helped, but it started asa PSU.

not saying it's dead, just not good anymore

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$15 PSU's can make a computer break, yes, but he has a 1500USD laptop.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but a BSOD is the OS forcefully stopping the hardware because of a problem, in order to prevent damage to the rest of the components, said problem often being faulty hardware, right?

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Yes, also bad drivers or software doing nasty memory operations with supervisor privileges.

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Had the same problem with my Geforce 250 GTS on my old pc. Only worked stable with a certain old driver (arround 166), everything afterwards caused nvlddmkm.sys bluescreens. This card does work without major problems in my newly built PC now (you can notice the display driver crashing but 2 sec later restarting without bluescreens, happens very rarely, must be something with windows 8 or whatever preventing bluescreens). I would suggest rolling back to a earlier graphics driver.

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Closed 9 years ago by MartDrummer.